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Well that's why a two state solution is more desirable. Do you think that Israel has any intention at all of ever letting it happen? I am now of the opinion that all of the offers are nothing but an ongoing smokescreen. It seems to me that every time it gets close to happening Israel will go and kill some more Palestinians and that will start the revenge killing again and put off any progress. I think that Isreal clearly needs more territory and will not be content to stop at it's (the Palestinian borders) when it encourages enough immigrants that it desperately needs more room. You probably know something about it being a Jew and I suspect that you are going to be extremely biased but I'm interested in hearing your opinions still. Speaking honestly to you now, if I show bias toward either side it could only be put down to ignorance of the situation because I have no other reason to favour either side. I just think the questions are quite obvious and that a lot of people are going to die if it's not fixed. At the same time I understand that many fundie christians think the endgame is inevitable and I fear that takes away any real onus on the US to do the right thing. Of course I consider all the religious mumbo-jumbo as nothing but sky fairy tales.

Actually I am a legend on the political forums and a legend in my own time. I usually end up owning a forum before too long. I already own you! Do you like my new signature American? The colour is to signify blood spilled by American bombs in many countries throughout the world.

Of course not but if the Palestinians were allowed to vote for a leader in their country then the majority would make the decisions. If not then a two state solution would be the only answer as far as I can see. They need to live up to the UN resolutions on the question for a start. What do you advocate? You just know that the Israelis are going to be whacked bigtime sooner or later and the ones who do the whacking won't care if the Israelis nuke Iran or the Palestinians. Maybe we can talk about an equitable solution to the problem if you care to do so. I think you and I are capable of keeping it civil.

Pay no attention to him, he's just cranky from the licking he got today.

The only way I'll be leaving is if you whiners who can't bear the truth are able to drum up a big enough hit squad to convince the mods that I'm hurting your feelings. I won't be changing my name and I won't be leaving of my own choice.

What could be insulting about my name. It's a statement of fact. US foreign policy has led to revenge against them. And why would any Canadian not understand that unless he/she has a son/daughter in the military? You are the anomaly among Canadians my friend, not I.

The US will support the Zionists as long as it pays a premium for it. When it doesn't anymore or it becomes too costly in revenge attacks against the US, the US will stop. There is no real love affair there other than it's politically right to support the Jews for the votes. Same as Cuba where the US has to keep up the embargo for the votes. But that one is starting to get politically very expensive for the US too and it is going to be worth dumping the Cubans in the US pretty soon in order to bring Cuba onside. Either that or Cuba aligns itself more with Hugo and the anti-US coalition grows until it's out of control.

You know, I really do suspect that something will prevent McCain from being the Repub candidate and they will fall back on Romney. McCain has too many negatives and is too old. If it wasn't legit medical or health problems then they could make it look like it was. Say you heard it from me first. Can anybody relate to that?

As I have said before, I don't defend tyranny and if I did it would make me a hypocrite for being down on the US. The British empire was definitley guilty of some very big crimes against humanity. Perhaps it's naive of me to expect that Americans would condemn evil but that won't stop me from sticking it to you. If all you can do is make reference to other empires which were just as guilty, and even more guilty, then I know that my message has gotten to you. You see my fine American friend, you now admit your guilt and if you were killed by a terrorist then you would have it coming. You applaud your country's aggression and murder of innocent people now because you are pompous enough to think you needn't deny anymore. And then you made your position perfectly clear when you said: It was always just a matter of time before you demonstrated your true evilness and hopefully the moderators are observing and taking notes. So who should feel threatened on this forum? Me for voicing an opinion on the fact that 9/11 was revenge or you who advocates all sorts of human torture and even applauds the US doing it? Your sort always coughs it up and spews it out eventually when you are left with nothing else to say.

NOt the guy but I didn't know if the name was common or not. At least you have it right on waterboarding. Americans who support it are just a bunch of hypocrites who like to think the rules get changed for them. Imagine them putting Japanese prisoners to death for the practice against Americans and then pretending that it's not a war crime and illegal torture! Very much like a lot of other things which suit their purpose in their nasty wars. I don't know why we need to argue such simple questions but we do and I have the time to hold their feet to the fire, at least for the effect it may have on their conscience. Unfortuantely patriotism and a flag planted firmly up their asses trumps conscience.

Great! Now where are all those smart members hiding? I've only seen a couple of people who are more than just sem-literate and you're not one of them. Jbg is probably worth his salt though. Am woman is nothing but a whiner. Shady's a pushover. Bring em on big guy! I bet the people you are thinking of are of your political bent.

Yes, there is a very big difference in the people of Israel. The Zionists are the trouble makers and they differ from many other Israelis in that they want war and expanding of Israel to other neighbouring countries and expansion of the illegal settlements. Then there are the peaceloving Jews who want peace and could live with an euitable solution which gave back some of the rights to the Palestinian people. The Zionist also is intent on inviting Jews from all over the world to come and live and build in Israel while at the same time denying equal rights to Palestinians whose country it is. The Zionists are racist Jews but they are also pushed by their ridiculous religious beliefs in the land being all theirs. They'll also get their due comeuppance some day too. Tyranny and evil can't stand indefinitely. And in fact the US now understands that supporting their tyranny is not entirely necessary and not worth the trouble it causes the US. The Zionists will get their wings clipped a little perhaps but not too much because the US depends on them for an excuse for a presence in the ME. Worth another big hit like 9/11? Probably but not worth seeing the whole country go down the tubes due to support of Zionism.

They and you would never admit it if they were but I know bringing up PNAC turned their cranks for them. You I just regard as one of them anyway.

Thanks, I knew a Jim Dobbin who was an electrician.

Yes, quite a bit else. Ahmadinejad was only quoting someone else's words so they weren't even his own. And he didn't say Israel should be wiped from the map, the words were more correctly as him quoting another's words that the Zionist apartheid regime needed to be wiped from the map. He was in fact saying that the Zionists don't have a right to anything more than the UN resolutions on the matter. Of course Israel will never agree to that and it's just perpetrating a cruel hoax to pretend it will. The most important thing about what Ahmadinejad did or didn't say is that it has been pushed until it has run off the rails by the US in it's demonization efforts against Ahmadinejad. If I though you would be interested in an exact translation I would get it for you. I know you don't care about such formalities because you want to subscribe to the demonizing effort for war.

Neither Bill Clinton's behaviour or McCain's wife being a drug addict who stole her drugs means anything to me but then I'm Canadian. Americans will take any little issue to town if they can. Their political system is corrupted. But I still like to play with Americans and embarrass them when possible.

STill a couple of pro-torturers in the closets but at least a couple came forward. And one more person who is not the least bit confused that torture is torture. Good for you J Dobbin and I know you btw if you are an industrial electrician.

Wasn't the issue about the Americans losing their rights and freedoms? How about a suspension of Habeas Corpus? And in Canada how about holding two people under house arrest without access to due process for years?

This confirms about what I suspected all along and thanks for clearing that up. They were afraid that if they didn't jump on all racist and like comments fast enough they would get in trouble with the Zionist lobby. Again the Zionists succeeded in censoring what they didn't like to hear. I wish I knew the woman's name at the CBC so I could call her back and tell her that the whole thing has been exposed. Oh, and Perry was the mod.

jbg- You see nothing wwong with the PNAC report? Even the part about going to war with Iraq regardless of whether Saddam was there or not? Good, at least a purpose was served in posting it again. There goes the lie to overthrow a brutal dictator. And other purpose served was to hear all the Americans trying to put it down because it's old stuff. Old stuff alright but still a classic faux pas which was never meant for public consumption. Now listen to them howl out their indignation that I would bring it up here!

And now I see that we have 2 morew closet torturers on the poll. Oh boy, talking to Americans!

Yep, but we can expose the evil you are now coming to terms with. That's all you have left to say isn't it. I'm finished with you for now. Now get out there and cut me a nice stout willow switch and take it with you to behind the woodshed and get your pants down around your ankles. I'll see you soon!

I see the poll has now gone 6 to 1 and the lone war criminal supporter still hasn't come out of the closet. The rules change! hahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahaha! And to add to this: The question was then asked whether or not waterboarding could be justified if it meant that gathering information through torture could stop a terrorist attack. Many Americans could justify it on those grounds but in truth didn't really care anyway. The correct response to that defence of torture was to ask if two atomic bombs to be dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasake were reason enough to waterboard Americans. Apparently not because Japanese prisoners were still executed. Yeah, the rules sure do change!

Actually I liked it a lot because it revealed the real you. Just another hating American who doesn't like to hear the truth so he has to turn to that sort of tactic. Now I have you where I want you and I knew all along that you would step over the lines of decency. Because you don't like your wars criticized right? ABut the same as American woman. See if you can get my name censored now so it doesn't challenge you and hurt your feelings. I'll just continue to play the game fairly.

No, I didn't say that and I think you are losing control of your sanity now if you try to suggest that. You see I know somthing about the history of wars and I have learned that WW2 could have been avoided if Germany had been dealth with in a more fair and balanced manner for it's WW1 exploits. If you understand the history you may be able to agree but if you don't then please don't waste my time with comments on my being pro-German or any other such nonsense. However I would much rather stick to the current US wars. And I'm sorry to say that after reading some of your comments I'm coming to the conclusion that you really aren't very bright after all. This quote tells me that. You're in over your head and you just don't have much to say other than ridiculous accusations against me of that sort. Buck up now and do better or I won't play with you any more.