Moonlight Graham

Justin's wife got COVID from flying to the UK like a fool, and a couple years earlier she was photographed with a terrorist assassin at a private event. Justin and his staff can't even protect his own freakin wife, how the hell can this government protect this country from threats foreign and domestic? This government is incompetent in terms of national security, among other things.

Reading the gov't website on this research, it seems exactly what The Rebel article is saying is it. I wouldn't give any money to this Wuhan lab unless we're sure where this virus came from and are assured by China with evidence that it's origin isn't from their Wuhan national research lab, and also that the health security concerns from the lab expressed by the US are addressed. I'd also want China to stop sending spies to Canada's national lab in Winnipeg. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/chinese-researcher-escorted-from-infectious-disease-lab-amid-rcmp-investigation-1.5211567 https://nationalpost.com/news/canadian-lab-immersed-in-rcmp-probe-sent-ebola-and-another-deadly-virus-to-china-health-agency

At the end of the day this is all speculation. We need proof via evidence. I suspect we'll find out what happened one way or another.

This has massively harmed China's economy too, plus their international reputation. I don't see any net benefit from this for them.

Unless you have 1.4 billion people and don't mind culling a bit of the older population that aren't even working anymore. Or you do have a vaccine but only the higher ups in the gov't have access. I don't know what the advantage for China would be though. Unless it would be to hamper Trump's re-election? Doubtful it was on purpose IMO

But not in all cases is green tech available. ie: EV tech for airplanes or transport trucks still don't seem to be at a good enough stage to take over quite yet.

We need to invent hyper-realistic sex robots so this stuff doesn't happen anymore.

Yes I agree with all of that. Where viable alternatives exist then yes, as per above.

1. I've always said we should do our part, my argument is we shouldn't do more than our fair share if big polluters aren't doing similar. I'm also not defending the statement that Canada is "green". 2. I never said we shouldn't act. I've stated the opposite. What's your metric for action? What is your statistical GHG reduction goal, and why? My statistical metric is to match GHG reductions of average of the US, EU, and China's reductions. Reducing GHG less than that is irresponsible since we should do our part as you say, and reducing by more only harms our economy while barely putting a dent in total GHG. 4. You're trying to say Canada isn't "green" because we have higher GHG per capita than most countries. I'm not even saying we're "green", but you can't compare Canada to most countries using GHG per capita because we have a much larger area & lower population density than virtually every country, plus a modern developed economy. "Improvement" isn't a goalpost, it's vague, it literally is meaningless, what's your metric? How do you measure "improvement"? By how much do we need to improve, how do we know when we haven't improved enough? This country needs specific statistical goals based on justifiable measures. But many people just say "Oil and pipelines bad, we need to save the world". 5. Ok 6. I've disagreed with this person too, like on TFW program.

We'll never be as green as other countries by those metrics because Canada is so spread out. By those metrics we can bludgeon Canada with guilt indefinitely, we're not going to tear up cities and abandon provinces to make everyone live closer together. You're making the goalposts impossible. I keep telling you facts and you completely ignore them. You're stubborn as hell. WTF is the point of me typing this?

Yes i know.

Canadians, especially young Canadians, don't want to do backbreaking farm labour for little pay. They'd rather work at Timmies. If we get rid of TFW program farms have to substantially raise pay to farm workers in order to get people to work for them, and then the price of much of our food will increase. Pick your poison.

I'm not quoting us on relative CO2 i'm quoting us on our total output. Yes we do need to do our part. But we also shouldn't do more than our fair share if it causes us economic harm.

Problem with tariffs is that they'll just slap them on us in retaliation. We won't be able to make as much selling to China.

Also a democrat tradition!

I don't even know what to believe anymore.

Having grab-hands is a Democrat tradition. Trump grabs p*ssies too. Good times.

Your link messed up, what did it say? Edit: Figured it out. Canada is a massive country with one of the lowest population densities in the world. It's obviously going to have a higher GDP per capita than the vast majority of countries. It's not because Canadians are "so bad and so wasteful", it's because ie: shipping something from Vancouver to Montreal is much different than shipping something from Glasgow to London.

We should pressure the US, EU, and China to act on climate, and follow their leads. We make up only 1.5% of global GHG emissions, so doing more than they do will harm us economically and do little to actually help the global problem. It only makes people "feel good" while putting other Canadians out of work for little reason. I'm fine with even shutting down the entire oil sands if need be if the global GHG leaders are clamping down domestically just as hard.

If my country and government were responsible for that virus and hundreds of thousands and potentially millions of worldwide deaths and massive economic suffering my feelings wouldn't really be relevant. This virus was caused by China's neglect in health and safety despite this being a continued problem that has repeatedly occurred and continual warnings. This wasn't caused by an accident it was caused by negligence, and criminal negligence at that. If any company in Canada were responsible for this you can bet they would be sued into the stratosphere.

1. Conservatives would say the UN is a corrupt waste of money with power in the General Assembly dominated by 3rd world dictatorships with little respect for human rights. Progressives would say the UN fosters peaceful resolution of conflicts & international cooperation. There is truth in both claims. The centrist position would be to reform or replace the UN with something similar but better. The right would say leave/defund the UN, the left would say keep status quo or make closer ties to UN. 2. Conservatives would say many refugees bring poverty and thus crime into 1st-world nations and sap our welfare systems. Progressives would say they are fleeing for their lives and need our help. There is truth in both claims. A centrist position would be to bring in refugees that are capable of a decent income, while helping to relocate unskilled/uneducated refugees to a safe country with incomes that match their socioeconomic potential. The right would say reduce or block refugees, the left would say maintain or increase #'s and help them more inside our countries. 3. Conservatives would say the economy is more important than the environment. Progressives would say the environment is more important than the economy. Both are important, so centrists would try to balance the two. Centrist positions are usually (but not always) better than solidly rightwing or leftwing positions. The further you go toward the ideological poles the more unbalanced and incomplete (and thus wrong) positions become, because the more they fail to capture the necessary truths of the opposing side. That's why i'm usually moderate on positions, and why people on the far left and far right are so often wrong. So wrong in fact that the only way they can keep people supporting their policies is through dictatorship.

"Chinese" can also refer to ethnicity, so it would be better to call it the China virus. China (the government) should be blamed and shamed.

Hey, sexism, self-hatred, and male guilt all in one sentence! I don't think that would have helped. Women are just as susceptible to complacency, incompetence, and corruption. We are all human.

If it was in 2014 then the Harper gov didn't replace them, and then the Trudeau gov just threw them out and didn't replace. Good job governments!