betsy

But as I said, you can't expect anything to happen unless someone actually makes a complaint, whether it's Trudeau, Donald Trump or Doug Ford. You want Trudeau to be held to a higher standard than anybody else because he has higher standards than most, but the standard you are holding him to is unreasonable in every situation. Don't you get the hypocrisy of whining about how we should withhold judgement until accusations are tried in a court of law when a right-wing politician has actual accusers, and then whining about how we're not withholding judgement when a left-wing (as if) politician doesn't even have an accuser willing to give any real account of the incident?

No, and as I said it's not something someone should lose their job over, however, it's Trudeau who is holding people to a higher standard than himself.  You are still missing the point about how it's not about a 'real' account of the incident, it's  Trudeau's behaviour, moralizing and throwing guys under the bus while lecturing others on how they feel etc.    It's what he has said and done since it came out.   However, carry on being obtuse and denial about Trudeau.

Keep moving those goalposts. It's not about the fact that there"s no complaint, no account of the incident, and not about a higher standard for feminist men. It's because Trudeau dealt firmly with issues where there were detailed accounts and complaints, and so he should...deal with issues where there are no complaints in the same manner?

I'm sorry if you find that obtuse, but that's how I'm reading your argument. As for denial, I'm not denying anything. He might have done worse than grab her ass. I just don't know.