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No you haven't. I doubt you interacted with him directly even once. All you can do is observe other people's reports about him and selected video clips of him. So no you can't observe him. You can't interact you can't collect your own data, you are totally reliant on the picture other people present. Remember the Goldfish incident? Even pictures lie if you do it right and the media loves to do that right In other words you can't refute it. Sorry that the truth is inconvenient And again, I can look at a statement such as the one you made about not hating trump, and I can directly examine your statements and see that it isn't true. But it would be much more difficult for me to try and assess why you have a motive to be untrue, for the like LOL you guys have to stop vacillating between "Trump is so stupid" and "Trump is a criminal genious." Trump went bankrupt for years. His wealth has nothing to do with being smart. You don't have to be that smart to get rich, that's a simple fact. There's a few ways to get there and trump does it with connections and screwing people over. He is driven and he's not afraid to try things and he doesn't care if he fails as long as he succeeds jn the end, and that's a lot more important to being rich than smarts. Einstein was not a billionaire How did we go from trump to 'ice'? I'm sure you're not dumb enough to think trump writes ice's press releases. They have entire companies working on public relations and media branding as well as their own internal team. Yeash,. I'm starting to wonder if YOU'RE that bright with comments like that kid you're slipping. And your hatred and bigotry is showing. Yes, i think most do which is why i'm getting a little concerned about you. and? The rest is just more of your personal hatred running away with you. By the end of that you would completely lost your reason. You obviously couldn't even recall what we were talking about. You just got super mad and started going off randomly about parts of the trump administration and somehow suggesting that I, who had never mentioned them, thought they weren't that bright or something which is dumb. And this brings us back to the beginning. I can see you, I can interact with you, I can directly read your words. So it's very easy for me to determine that when you say you don't hate trump and don't have any feelings one way or the other that you're absolutely lying. It is extremely clear that you do and that as you were typing that you were getting angrier and angrier. But it would be very difficult to look at trump and understand his motivations with the absolutely limited contact you have. So what you said before was not something you said because it was accurate, You said it because it fit a narrative. Honestly your rant went a lot further to proving my point than yours

Yeah, i noticed that, when you get really upset and your diaper is really full you start to repeat and spam Such an adult thing to do LOLOL you can't even help yourself, you're such a child you know it' makes you look like a desperate adolescent and you HATE people thinking of you like that and yet you CAN"T STOP!!!! You're just that emotionally immature Always hilarious

It's the spending. Literally billions and billions and billions of dollars spent on this. Not just a policy, but now an industry. The fact that we had something before Doesn't mean that it isn't out of control now. We had immigration before but then the liberals allowed it to get out of control. We had foreign workers before but the liberals allowed that to get out of control. We had deficits before but the liberals have allowed that to get out of control Dei has gotten vastly out of control and the amount spent on it is absolutely criminally insane They are equal. They've been equal under the law for decades now. We're not talking about equality, we're talking about something else.

It's actually true. I get that you think facts and truth are stupid tho You ARE a liberal after all

LOL never acknowledge his major defects huh? This from the guy who kept insisting Biden was fine and mentally fit as a fiddle right up till the end ROFLMAO!!!

Did you, you posted exactly what I said : What i said: You did. You supported the liberals for that exact sort of reason. You know they're corrupt, you know that their policies for the most part are bad for Canada, but you still support them What you posted: LOL hilarious Even when you're trying to lie the truth sometimes comes out

You did. You supported the liberals for that exact sort of reason. You know they're corrupt, you know that their policies for the most part are bad for Canada, but you still support them

You choose not to believe that because it supports your narrative. But yourself delusion isn't the same as reality Like I said, got 41.5% of the vote last election. Explain to me how that's an example of him doing it wrong. And the fact that a few mPS are able to be bought and paid for doesn't change anything. If the roles were reversed liberals will be leaving Carney So you're being deliberately dishonest here and we both know it. Had he fought the election against Trudeau you and I both know we'd be talking about a conservative majority right now The liberals inappropriately use their position to parliament and held a fake leadership race to install Carney and then used the fact that he was an unelected prime minister to showboat him around and ran away from their track record. Not illegal, but a complete dirty trick. Sure I'll grant you that the liberals know how to play a dirty game and they play it well. But again, they would have pulled that crap regardless of who the leader was. How are you going to answer the question or are you going to dishonestly avoid it again?

And when you see the video what are you going to do? You'll make up another lie to accuse her of . This is how the left operates

You said the same thing when it was trudeau in power and look what he did to canada. Carney will leave canada burning and destitute and you'll still be blaming harper

Still polling the same. Who else is going to do as well?

Not really across the political spectrum. Mostly from people like you. And at the same time he got within 1% of the same vote total that carney did. And carney had to steal the entire NDP vote to pull that off I've never heard you address that. I've heard you dance around it and ignore it and avoid it but I've never actually heard you or any of the liberals explain how someone so horribly unsuited can do that well. Without a doubt. If they get away from the whole political activism social justice warrior woke nonsense crap and get back to jack Layton "everyman" Meat and potatoes kitchen table stuff they can rebuild fairly quickly. Mark carney is trying to appeal to both the left and the right at the same time and frequently that falls apart before too long and the NDP will have strong opportunities

Are you still talking to yourself? You were before LOLOL Trust you to double down on the stupid

Pisses you off eh?? LOL LOL LOL [ Umm.... you quoted yourself there kiddo LOLOL did you mean that your comment p*sses YOU off? Or do you mean that you were pissed off that you were losing? I can always tell when you're getting REALLY upset Your engish goes to crap and you make weirdo mistakes like this.

And I can't find that, so post a couple examples and we can take a look at it together There is something fundamentally wrong with you if the first place your brain goes to is thinking about males hard ons the moment someone challenges your position politically I mean, we're not here to judge you. But we're probably going to. Well you didn't stick it out, covid was destroying the country. Fortunately it didn't last long. But look what it did to inflation and your debt. Not that anyone did terribly well under covid I doubt America is going to collapse into the sea. But the whole point of this exercise was to make america financially more successful and so far it's not really having that effect. And for a lot of states it's actually making things worse considering the candidate was their biggest rating partner Already provided proof that it is failing miserably and they are suffering. They're still out there spending the money. It's just the Americans aren't getting it. Tourism to Mexico is up substantially. An honest trump supporter will look at the situation and say the whole idea here is that yes, we will take some significant losses in some areas but over time the net benefit that comes from more businesses moving to America will outweigh those weaknesses and in the aggregate we will be better off and have a stronger economy. And you can make that argument. So far it's not quite shown up yet. Trump had a bad quarter followed by what would normally be categorized as a decently strong quarter and we're probably another couple of quarters away to seeing how this is really going to play out. Economies take a long time to react to any changes, anything you do today won't show up for another 6 months to a year. But there's no doubt that while the GDP is improving inflationary pressures are still strong and upsetting Americans and that some sectors are suffering some pretty significant losses. So we'll see. It's too soon to call the ball, and if a trump hater tells you that he's failing then that person is lying and if a trump supporter tells you that it's all going great and succeeding than that person is also lying. Right now it's a mixed bag with some positive news and some negative news and it'll be a while before it settles down and we can see where things are landing

Wow that's generally true it's even more true with trump in the white house. The liberals all run around screaming that if a conservative gets anywhere near a position of power they're going to be exactly like trump. It's going to be harder to win for as long as trump is in office, and depending on who wins after that it may be a problem for some time to come.

ROFLMAO!!! Yeah you sure showed that YOU'RE the adult in the room with that comment kiddo You're obviously crying a lot today. Go tell your mom i said you could have a cookie and a hug

LOL still stuck in repeat I guess i did a little more damage to your brain today than i meant to You're so fragile!

Well that is obviously untrue. As seen below it's actually having a massive impact and MANY states are suffering and domestic tourism isn't offsetting that. And you probably know that, that's why there's no link to your "quote". Conservatives don't lie about facts, we address the facts as they are like adults. you need to stop that. And it's not just canada US Tourism Faces Steep Decline as Tougher Immigration Policies and Rising Costs Drive Foreign Travelers Away – Major Cities Like Los Angeles, Las Vegas, and Miami Hit Hard - Travel And Tour World As to your quote , the domestic tourism industry isn't up. IT's always been around the 1 trillion mark. It's about the same right now as it's always been except for covid. So the drop in international tourism is a straight loss for the tourism industry. state complains canadian tourism down - Google Search Multiple U.S. states and business organizations are currently reporting significant declines in tourism and visitor spending from Canada, a trend that is severely impacting businesses, particularly those in border regions. This decline is largely attributed to political tensions, new border crossing rules, and economic factors. States Affected by the Decline A recent report by the U.S. Senate Democrats' Joint Economic Committee highlighted that every state along the U.S.-Canada border is facing financial hardship due to fewer Canadian visitors. The affected states include: Alaska Idaho Maine Michigan Minnesota Montana New Hampshire New York North Dakota Vermont Washington state Other states popular with Canadian snowbirds, such as Florida, Nevada (Las Vegas), and Arizona, have also seen substantial drops in visitor numbers and spending. Key Reasons for the Decline Business owners and officials cite a combination of factors for the drop in Canadian tourism: Political Climate and Rhetoric: Many Canadians report feeling hesitant to travel to the U.S. due to the political climate, trade disputes, and perceived hostility, leading some to "boycott" U.S. travel. Border Friction: Increased scrutiny and confusion over new border entry requirements and potential changes to immigration policies have created anxiety for travelers. Economic Pressures: The weak Canadian dollar against the U.S. dollar, combined with the rising cost of living in Canada, has reduced Canadian purchasing power for U.S. goods and services. Domestic Travel Push: Canadian provincial leaders have encouraged residents to spend their tourism dollars within Canada, further contributing to the shift in travel patterns. Impact on U.S. Businesses The decline has had significant consequences: Businesses in border towns have reported a major drop in Canadian customers, with some seeing a 50% decrease. Ferry services and airlines have cut routes and laid off employees. The U.S. Travel Association warned that a 10% decrease could result in US$2.1 billion in lost spending. In response, some U.S. tourism groups, such as Discover Kalispell in Montana, have launched "Canadian Welcome Passes" with discounts to try and attract visitors back.

This apparently seems to be true. If the reports from America are accurate there's also a large number of Canadians selling off their properties down there and not buying properties when properties used to be sold to Canadians pretty frequently. Obviously there is an impact to the trade war and Donald Trump's insults and that was to be expected. That's one of the reasons Donald was so upset over Ontario's ads However it is also true that many Canadian businesses have packed up and gone south. Trump is betting that more businesses will go south then business in the form of Tourism will stay north. We'll see if that's how it works out

You give down arrows because your emotionally crippled and have no other way to strike back. You're a small little kid emotionally and the fact that other people look at you with contempt makes you angry and this is one of the only ways you have to strike back. Hell you wake up most mornings and run around looking for all my posts to down arrow. That's not normal behavior. You wouldn't even have time to read them all based on how quick you do it so all you're doing is just finding my posts and down early That tells every single person on this forum that you're weak, your crippled emotionally, and that you're probably under the age of 18. This is why so many people are ready to believe you're and adolescent. Kids going through puberty would do that As it is nobody cares except you. If it makes you feel better it helps you get through your day dealing with your school work and acne then so be it. But let's not pretend that it's anything other than it really is or that all of us don't understand or see it. I'm sure you think you're clever, but all of us were kids once and we can see right through you

I can observe you and your words directly. There's an interaction. Nor do I try and assess anything particularly deep about you or your psyche. And mostly I just know when you're not telling the truth. You make a statement about your feelings about trump which is in direct contradiction to things you've written then I can look at that as an intelligent person and assess the situation and say that's not an honest statement. Now, I have said many times said that trump lies. And I've also said that he says many things that are untrue that he probably believes are true but he's just not that bright. So in many respects I don't treat him any different than I treat you. There's no conflict there You're very kind

Ahh you're in repeat mode where you just go around posting the same thing in several threads spamming the forum. I see. You must be REAAALYY sad today and angry that nobody cares about you. But hey, I care!! If I didn't have you, who would i laugh at for free every day!!

Boy you sure do talk to that mirror a lot Obviously you're extra butt hurt and sad today, AND you forgot my little down arrow to REALLY show me who's boss

Still crying and begging i see I accept your admission of defeat