QuebecOverCanada

Flashback: In 2016, 53% of Democrats said they sympathized more with the Israelis, and 23% with the Palestinians. By 2022, that gap had virtually disappeared. When Gallup conducted this year's poll from Feb. 1-23, just 38% of Democrats chose the Israelis while 49% said they sympathized more with Palestinians. That shift has been driven largely by Americans born after 1980, a narrow plurality of whom are more sympathetic to Palestinians than Israelis. Americans from older generations are more than twice as likely to sympathize with the Israelis. The progressive wing of the Democratic caucus in Congress has also grown increasingly vocal about the Palestinian cause. https://www.axios.com/2023/03/16/democrats-sympathize-more-palestinians-israelis-gallup --- What a shocker. In the next episode of OP-writes-a-shitty-thread, he will tell us water is wet.

The History of the great province of Alberta; The sole reason Alberta exists is because of the railroad Lower and Higher Canada paid back in the 1800s. The sole reason Alberta is viable economically speaking is because of the infrastructure paid federally, including all the pipelines you make us pay dearly. But after reaching jackpot at the expense of all other provinces, the Albertan province decides it will not pay back its debts, and call other provinces freeloaders. Really ironic, but it is also a sign of poor judgement and planning long term. Alberta is economically uni-dimensional, has poor public services and subject to a poor future economic outlook. Oil is going to be replaced by raw materials we find in mines on the other side of the country, Ontario and Quebec. The Saudi Arabia of North America is soon to feel the pain of the energy transition. Not right now, but we got a snippet of what Alberta will look like in future decades when the oil sector almost shut down in 2015.

Look, you can't just write ' I don't loath Quebecers ' in one sentence and the next one calling them whiny, spoiled and who claim to be falsely oppressed. This is a counter argument to your own sentence. Kind of like an oxymoron, but in your case we'll only keep the last two syllables only of that word. That just isn't true. House passes motion recognizing Quebecois as nation Prime Minister Stephen Harper had introduced the surprise motion on Nov. 22, raising the ante on a Bloc Quebecois motion that sought to declare Quebecers a nation without reference to Canada. The motion states: "That this House recognize that the Quebecois form a nation within a united Canada." The prime minister has said he is using the word nation in a "cultural-sociological" rather than in a legal sense. "I think tonight was an historic night," Harper said after the vote. "Canadians across the country said 'yes' to Quebec, 'yes' to Quebecers, and Quebecers said 'yes' to Canada. "In politics, you take risks — that's what we did — but national unity, national reconciliation are more important than any one party or than any one individual." https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/house-passes-motion-recognizing-quebecois-as-nation-1.574359 --- Now let's get back to your ethnic cleansing talk. What was it about? Because we have language laws, we're genociding the Anglophones? Is that seriously your take?

Since 1945, approximately a hundred new countries gained independence. Not a single one expressed the wish to return back to the state it were before.

Can you make an effort of actually reading rather than bashing Quebecers? That part made me laugh so hard; Your point is so preposterous. So Mexico shouldn't exist independently as Spain exists? French Canadians are totally different from French from France. I know because I am from both origins, plus a jewish side on top of that. And I can tell you as a pro Israeli that you're totally out of touch because of your loathing of the French Canadians. You say that Israel should have a right to exist as a nation State, but not the French Canadians... What a bunch of hypocrisy. Besides, you have your country, Canada. If you feel like it would disappear because Quebec doesn't want to partake in your colonial enterprise, it does not really matter for Quebecers. You won't convince them by spitting on them, saying they are doing 'ethnic cleansing' as you said, without any proof, any fact.

Justin Trudeau is acting on Federal jurisdiction. If you can't comprehend how your country works, we don't need to read your opinion of how a province works. Opinions are like a*sh*les, everyone has one, not everyone has to share theirs.

Do you know anything about this subject? https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/refugees/asylum-claims/asylum-claims-2022.html https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/immigration-fuels-quebecs-biggest-population-boom-in-50-years A backward province with two universities in the top 100 in the World, an unemployment rate around 4.5%, a cost of living much lower than almost all provinces, a free market economy with less regulations than Ontario sounds very good to me. By the way, we protect our culture. There is absolutely no shame in that, we are proud, and we will remain proud. You proclaimed the right of Israel to exist based on the Jewish religion and their needs to have their homeland. Why couldn't the French Canadians have this right? You seem quite hypocritical, or worse, hateful about French Canadians. Did we bully you in High School? If so, probably not enough.

I rarely ever read something so far from the truth. This has to be some sort of satire, Quebec has the most amount of refugees in Canada and one of the biggest urban center this country has. There is absolutely no ethnic cleansing in Quebec, and Quebec is taking a lot of undocumented immigrants because Canada doesn't want to control its border with the United States. We're talking about Quebec, not Ontario or British Columbia.

It's worse than that. They view women, the LGBT and ethnic groups which are not White as inferior, hence the fact they need to make sure the White heterosexual man speaks last.

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Prop up the real estate market, as much as possible. A major part of the portfolio of the wealthy elite in Canada, especially in big cities, is real estate. If you invested in real estate in 2015, you would be much richer than if you invested in stocks or assets that are productive. To make sure the rent goes up and the price of houses/condo goes in the same direction, you need to have a lot of desesperate people who will sacrifice their livelihood/privacy to agree to pay such astronomical prices as 3K/month for a 1 bedroom apartment. Immigrants tend to accept that much more than the locals. And it shows in for example Mississauga where you have sometimes 3 mattresses on the ground for a one bed room apartment, for 3 different couples. The real estate prices going up is benefitting the economic elite in two ways; their portofolios go up, while the workers have to work longer and longer, thus becomes more desesperate himself for work. This is on purpose, to create an economic subclass like in Brazil, where you'll have very rich people here vs those who own nothing, and they will be happy, or else...

I think he is quite knowledgeable and has quite a judgment on many issues. Not everyone thinks like you.

Secretary of State Antony Blinken warned a small group of lawmakers last week that his department is tracking the possibility that Azerbaijan could soon invade Armenia, according to two people familiar with the conversation. The call indicates the depth of concern in the administration about Azerbaijan’s operations against a breakaway region in the west of the country and the possibility of the conflict spreading. Read all the source here; https://politico.com/news/2023/10/13/blinken-warned-lawmakers-azerbaijan-may-invade-armenia-in-coming-weeks-00121500 --- This decade started with Covid, the Ukraine war, then the Israel-Palestine War, now we have Armenia invasion by Azerbaijan. This is one of the worse decades we've had in many since during World War II. The 1990s were heavy, but I feel like we're heading to something much bigger. We would just need an invasion of Taiwan to put the cherry on top.

We all do as Humans actually. I do not believe that part, respectfully, because I think we can all be subjects of propaganda.

What do you think it could be? Didn't you say there was a sign saying "I love terrorism" in a Palestinian protest? May you just send the link to that? By the way, I think Kathy Griffin had many contracts cancelled and lost a lot of money for what she did about Trump.

Look, I didn't see that happen, do you have links? But it is a display of pure hatred and dishonoring themselves... without any interaction needed. I'm all for free speech. Cockroaches flee when the light comes, just as public opinions goes away when they see that kind of extremism.

They literally destroyed the most advanced tanks in the World in their first wave. All Hamas wants is a ground invasion, which they will get, trust me. But it will be bloody. Hamas have at least 25 000 troops, inside a civilian population it holds hostage.

This kind of rhetoric will not give way to any moderation. If any pro-Palestinian expression is already amalgamated to Isis or Hamas, it's radicalizing the other side, also you are dehumanizing them in a way as you put them in a box they could not belong.

All options are on the table, but a durable peace could come through a destruction, occupation and total reconstruction of Palestine by the Israelis. It is not going to be easy, thousands of Israelis would die. I said earlier that Gaza could be the new Stalingrad or Bakhmut. Mark my words. It will be. More Palestinians would die, but it wouldn't be a fun walk in the park for the Israelis to occupy Gaza. It could also cause a conflict of enormous proportions, but realistically, the American domination would mean the pro-Palestinian countries would look like Syria after the war. Israel and the West would lose trillions; Arab countries would do a 1973-style export embargo, until they can't handle the embargo. When the Allied nations attacked Germany and Japan, they had to raze many cities to the ground. But they had a Marshall plan after, which made the Germans and Japanese pacifists after WWII. A similar plan can be in place for Palestine. We need to make sure Palestinians live decently and have means to trade with Israelis and vice-versa. But it means de-nazification efforts. Boots on the ground at all times for decades.

And that's why we must stand against any kind of censorship. If people can't resort to telling what they think, what they desire as a society, other means will soon ensue to make sure the message will be understood. And it's not going to be pretty.

What we could predict though is that if Israel decides to occupy Gaza, it would be a blood bath on every side. It would be another Bakhmut times 10 or even a Stalingrad.

Not necessarily. You may manifest a preferrence for a side without inciting genocide/hate of the other protagonists. EDIT: I misread, I thought you were telling me that they were going to be prosecuted for taking a side at a protest.

France decided that pro-Palestinian protests were prohibited by law. Imagine my shock. The evening that law is adopted, a pro-Palestinian protest happened. You can't ban ideas. Right wingers who are pro Israel are wrong about silencing those Pro-Palestinians, just like the Left wingers are dead wrong about the censorship they promote for almost any opinion they are against.

In Montreal, the only ones who attacked physically demonstrators for protesting either sides are pro Palestinians, 100%. Same thing happened a few years ago when pro Israeli demonstrators were viciously attacked; https://www.scmp.com/news/world/united-states-canada/article/3133711/police-use-tear-gas-pro-israel-and-pro-palestinian

BUT If Pro-Palestinians use violence as a means of protests, jail them immediately. Shut down their bank accounts. Give them a taste of criminal justice.