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  1. Very convenient, but it holds no water because you haven't given any evidence to support such a claim. I gave you verses, but you give nothing but some vague claim you are following a "golden rule". Where does the Bible say anything about a "golden rule"? Give me a verse or verses that would support your claim that marriage can be between people of the same sex. You still haven't done this.
  2. quote 6 But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. 7 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife; 8 And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh. unquote Mark 10:6-8 KJB This proves God ordained marriage to be between a man and woman. Show me one verse that supports your argument that is can be between two people of the same sex. How could it be anyway if God condemns same-sex relations throughout the Bible?
  3. Yes, my beliefs require me to point out evil or misguided beliefs in politics. Isn't that the sensible thing to do?
  4. I don't know how to make it clearer to you. I have quoted Scripture but you seem bent on ignoring or refusing to accept it. What would convince you if not the Bible? You say you are a Christian. What is your rule of faith then?
  5. Then you don't know what the Bible teaches about marriage. It is only between a man and woman according to the Bible. Something else for you to Google. Search Bible and marriage. Lots to learn.
  6. I know there are many churches that accept same-sex marriage and take a very liberal view on the subject. But I don't believe they are following the Bible on the subject. They are very liberal, modernist churches. There are many different websites with different opinions on the subject as well. All this has created a lot of confusion in many people's minds. I removed that link because they are using a corrupt version of the Bible. The NIV translation is one the very corrupt versions. They had a lesbian on their translation committee and they removed the word sodomy from the Bible and replaced it with temple prostitutes which is an extreme corruption and changing the Bible. The King James Version (1611) is the only accurate version and is based on the Received Text. This link has references in the King James Version, which is trustworthy: BIBLE VERSES ABOUT HOMOSEXUALITY (kingjamesbibleonline.org)
  7. No, I said divorce is justified in some cases. Would you say a woman who is being abused should not be able to get a divorce or a man in such a situation? It is not really that complicated is it?
  8. I have already answered most of that. If you want to know more about divorce, I have the information or I can refer you to a website that goes into it probably better than I can. But it is immaterial at this point. You are using the old trick of trying to silence anyone who opposes you by saying not to judge. That is unbiblical. This is a debate over government policies and Biblical truth, so of course it is necessary to point out what God teaches in the Bible. Don't let the Devil silence you or keep you knowing the truth.
  9. When men, political parties, campaign to govern us and make the laws for us, then their beliefs and policies are fair game for examination and critical analysis in accordance with the light of God's written revelation. That is not false judgment or unreasonable judgment of any kind. We are not be dumb asses and be silent when evil things are happening all around us. It is time Christian wake up.
  10. I know I am a sinner and never said I wasn't. But the subject at hand requires me to point out why liberals and left are supporting evil/ sin as a central part of their platforms. Michael refuses to acknowledge that. The Bible teaches us to have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness but rather rebuke them. That's all I am doing. The liberals / NDP would accuse believers of being hateful and bigoted for pointing out these things but you know who the accuser of the brethren is? If you haven't accepted Christ as your Savior and believe he died for you and rose from the dead for your justification, I would encourage you to and resolve a central issue. Otherwise you will be torn in the middle forever.
  11. I suspect you are trying to divert the subject away from what we have been talking about to divorce. Divorce is another big subject. It is useless to got there when you still haven't accepted the facts I have pointed out already. Do you have any evidence you accept the Bible as authoritative or are you willing to accept it as such? I am not that interested in talking about homosexuality but for the fact that it seems to be a central platform of liberals and left to promote it. Therefore it is a clear proof to show they are not interested in defending a Christian civilization or nation. As far as what is a sin, I already said you can use Google. Why do you think we need to explain the obvious. I already quoted Romans ch1 which clearly shows homosexuality is opposed by God and therefore a sin. Google will point you to many parts of the Bible which show that it is a sin. Romans chapter one could not be clearer or louder.
  12. Are you a Buddhist or a Muslim? Where did I shun the sinner or shun LGBTQ? Now you are inventing accusations. I said I believe it is contrary to the Bible. Didn't say anything about shunning, whatever that is supposed to mean.
  13. Try Google : homosexuality and the Bible. You will find lots on it. Jesus didn't have to personally say something about it because the whole Bible is inspired by God, which means Jesus Christ wrote the Bible. It even says in places in the New Testament that he is the Word (of God). Divorce is a complicated issue. In some cases there may be good reasons why it is necessary. It is also forgivable if it is a sin. Laws need to allow for divorce because it is sometimes the only solution. I know there are churches that don't believe in divorce in any circumstance, but I can show biblically why they are wrong. But that is a whole big subject.
  14. quote 8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. 9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. {is born: or, has been born} 10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother. Unquote 1 John 1:8-10 KJB I am not saying someone who claims to be religious and embraces sin can not be forgiven. Of course there is forgiveness. But blatantly rejecting God's word does not place one in a good place. It is rebellion against God and needs to be repented of. I am also not saying one who believes those things cannot be saved. I am not the judge of men's hearts or motives. But I am simply pointing out that you have a contradiction in your mind if you think it is OK to believe things like LGBTQ are not seriously contrary to God's word. Liberals support abortion on demand and same-sex marriage. These things are clearly opposed by Gods' word. It is indefensible. I am not sure where you are coming from but you need to seriously reconsider your beliefs. Nobody is perfect in this world and Christians do fall into sin as well, but we need to repent and believe God's word. We need to take it seriously and not dismiss it as trivial or unimportant. When one becomes a Christian, he accepts Christ and His Word. Not just saying he believes in Christ but has no use for his word. That is illogical. Jesus and his word go together. Read the first chapter of John. Jesus is the Word made flesh.
  15. Guess you have not heard or read what Jesus and the Bible said. Quote 23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Unquote Romans 3:23 KJV God considers every single person an immoral person, a sinner, and with a wicked heart. You have not understood this. This is a central teaching of the Bible/Christianity. Your claim of non-religious or other religious folks being moral is diametrically opposed to this central teaching from God in the Bible. As far as God is concerned there is none righteous. When you use the word "moral" you should make it clear you are using it in reference to earthly standards and not God's standard. The only completely righteous or moral person that ever walked on earth was Jesus Christ because he is God. The Bible says unless one is born again by faith in Jesus Christ and his atonement for sin for the one who believes, he will not be saved or go to heaven. Thank God he said man does not live by bread alone, but by every word of God (the Bible). If it had not been for this, nobody would know.
  16. What ideas are you speaking about? You can't be a left wing or liberal and support LGBTQ practices and call yourself a Christian. You can't support Marxism, which opposes God and religion, and call yourself a Christian. That suggestion is ludicrous. Quote 24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: 25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. {more: or, rather} 26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. 28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; {to retain: or, to acknowledge} {a reprobate…: or, a mind void of judgment or, an unapproving mind} 29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, 30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents. Unquote Romans 1:24-30 KJV
  17. You obviously simply bypassed or ignored most of what I said. The proof is there that Canada and other western countries have descended into hedonism or endless sexual immorality and have been given the blessings of government, especially left wing governments like Liberals and NDP and other parties to varying extents. And you support all this. They bless same-sex unions and LGBTQ and claim it is normal and just a personal preference. They teach it to our kids in school as a normal choice. They teach them they can be a trans gender and allow young kids to choose to be the opposite sex. This is like Sodom and Gomorrah in the Bible. People who promoted this type of thing and those who support it, especially leaders bear a huge responsibility and will be held accountable by God. There will be a day of reckoning, guaranteed. Does anyone really think God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah for nothing and that he will turn a blind eye to the same kind of thing in our time.
  18. There is a great book by Ben Shapiro called "The Right Side of History - How Reason and Moral Purpose Made the West Great". Inside back cover says "Ben Shapiro is editor in chief of the Daily Wire and host of The Ben Shapiro Show, the top conservative podcast and fastest-growing radio show in the nation. A New York Times bestselling author, Shapiro is a graduate of Harvard Law School and the nation's most requested campus speaker." Shapiro argues "As a society, we are forgetting that almost everything great that has happened in history happened because of people who believed in both Judeo-Christian values and in the Greek-born power of reason. In the Right Side of History, Shapiro sprints through more than 3,500 years, dozens of philosophers, and the thicket of modern politics to show how our freedoms are built upon the twin notions that every human being is made in God's image and that human beings were created with reason that is capable of exploring God's world. We have these values to thank for the birth of science, the dream of progress, human rights, prosperity, peace, and artistic beauty. Jerusalem and Athens built America, ended slavery, defeated the Nazis and Communism, lifted billions from poverty, and gave billions more spiritual purpose. Yet we are in the process of abandoning Judeo-Christian values and Greek natural law, watching our civilization collapse into age-old tribalism, individualistic hedonism, and moral subjectivism. We believe we can satisfy ourselves with intersectionality, scientific materialism, progressive politics, authoritarian governance, or nationalistic solidarity. We can't....." Many Canadian political "leaders" think Canada is moving in the right direction by having: 1. Abortion on demand. 2. Sexual freedom, flexible gender identity, and gay marriage and any other hedonistic practices that can be brought to the fore. 3. Freedom of have doctor-assisted suicide. 4. Freedom to overturn traditional values, reject traditional ideas of justice and embrace new ideas of affirmative action under the guise of enlightenment and equality for all. 5. Marxist ideas of speech control, wealth redistribution and establishing a welfare state. 6. Banning so-called "conversion therapy" which basically means removing freedom of speech from Christian counselors who would dare encourage some LGBTQ person, who may seek their help, that they should be converted and abandon their sin. Such counsel is no different that what would be given to drug addicts, alcoholics, criminals, domestic abusers, and anyone who needs to be converted and change their behavior. But it is now a crime to do so with a certain group. One who does not subscribe to these new liberal values is considered a bigot or racist or both.
  19. One of the characteristics of Communism or Marxism is it's belief in the intervention in society to an unlimited extent. That means the Marxist or Communist system has no limits on what they can do with regard to individual citizens or citizen's rights in society if the Marxists believe they are acting in the interests of the common good (which in reality means the state or party's own interests). Ultimately this leads to the denial of personal freedoms such as freedom of speech, freedom of association, freedom of the press, freedom of religion, and freedom of beliefs. There is nothing sacred that Marxist governments cannot control or regulate. Historically, Canada and western countries were Judeo-Christian nations whose laws were based on the historic Biblical teachings such as the ten commandments. From these Judeo-Christian beliefs flowed human rights, respect for the individual, and the development of democracy since the time of the Magna Carta. In the last 50 years or so, Canada has become more of an anti-Judeo Christian nation and has adopted a multicultural stance which gives equal status to all religions or no religion. No religion is secularism which is diametrically opposed to the historic Christian belief system. Many Canadians applaud this and claim the phrase separation of church and state. The problem is Christian values such as human rights can never be separate from Judeo-Christianity because that is where human rights originated. Secularism means in theory no religion, but there cannot be any such thing because man's relationship with his fellow man always has been guided by a belief in an accountability to a higher power, i.e. to God. If you take God out of the equation, all you have left is man's reasoning or whatever man decrees as any given time as the guide for rights and laws. That is what secular humanism is. It is based purely on man's ideas. There is therefore no solid foundation for society. An example of the consequences of this multiculturalism or secular humanism are some of the rulings from the Supreme Court of Canada. Some of the rulings from the SCC to do with search and arrest have been reasonable but others rejected the historic belief in the sanctity of human life as in the abortion question. The SCC went completely against historic Judeo-Christian beliefs and the Bible when they ruled a woman's right to do what she wants with her own body is all that matters. They have rejected the unborn as human with the right to life. Then more recently they ruled that individual's have the right to choose doctor-assisted dying, again rejecting the historic Judeo-Christian belief in the sanctity of life and that nobody has the right to take another's life except in certain limited circumstances such as police work or a nation's right to defend itself in time of war and in capital punishment for murder. Examples of rulings from the Supreme Court of Canada are summarized here: Examples of Charter-related cases (justice.gc.ca) You will notice also that the SCC interpretation of the Charter gives refugees and those who do not hold Canadian citizenship the same rights as Canadians in some cases.
  20. Why do you shill for Communism and Marxism's influence in Canada? You will know the so-called Charter of Rights and the Not Withstanding Clause was brought in by former PM PIerre Elliot Trudeau, a known Communist sympathizer, who loved to visit Communist countries and was a close friend of Fidel Castro. He shunned our traditional allies. He also made visits to Communist China and was the first western leader to give full diplomatic recognition to Communist China in 1970. Since then, Communist China has become Canada's second largest trading partner and Canada now has deep ties with China. All this happened under mainly liberal governments, with some help by blind conservative governments in the short times they were in office. You know or should know that the Supreme Court has been stacked with liberal-oriented judges and they are the ones who make the final decisions on what the Charter of Rights means in any particular case. All this means is the so-called Charter of Rights is writing on a piece of paper rights which Canadians for the most part already had and believed they were inalienable rights. Now writing them down and giving the Supreme Court the final say means we only have rights that they grant us and they can be denied or changed at the will of the liberal-dominated SCC. So essentially the state, through a liberal-appointed SCC, now decrees what rights we have and politicians like Trudeau can get up and pontificate on rights as if he is the sole arbiter of rights, when in fact, basic human rights come from God, the Biblical God of whom Trudeau does not appear to acknowledge or follow. Marxism also does not recognize or follow the Biblical God by whom all things exist and under his dominion. There is a strong similarity between the anti-God stance of liberalism and the atheist stance of Marxism. When there is no fear of God, there is tyranny and totalitarianism. That they have in common.
  21. I have read several books on China's influence in Canada and the west and it is vast. I am not talking about a nuclear war between China/Russia and the west. A military war is not the objective. China's influence in western countries is vast and growing through various ways. They would consider that a win. What they can do through their influence and control in the rest of the world is the problem. Read the book "Hidden Hand" and read the book "Wake Up America - Unrestricted Warfare" written by a former People's Liberation Army officer. They are not looking for conventional warfare. That is not how to win. They have learned the way to get ahead is through influence, propaganda, and control of foreign politicians, former polticians, and people in powerful positions. They are experts at in. That's what unrestricted warfare means. China is not "boxed in". You are thinking in totally different terms. China's influence in the world is huge. They already have a strong influence in the UK, which has pretty well been finished. Italy and France are strongly under their influence. Both countries have said they will not be having a diplomatic boycott of the Beijing Olympics and will not be joining the US, Canada, Australia, and the UK in the boycott.
  22. There is far more to it than that. Read the book and find out. Watch some youtube documentaries.
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