blackbird

You prove again you know nothing about the three major religions. I am not going to be your personal tutor and try to teach you everything. You will have to do some studying and learn yourself. America is the west's strongest defender of freedom we have. Has nothing to do with Covid. Nice try.

Nonsense.

As I recall Iraq had launched Skud missiles into Israel in the past. Saddam Hussein was no friend of the west and was probably building secret weapons. He attacked Kuwait not long ago. Remember the Gulf War?

Guess you don't know much about the real world. Living in some kind of alt reality?

You think 9-11 killing 3,000 people was just a pretext to go to war against radical Islamic jihadists? Do you even believe 9-11 was a terrorist attack on the west? I hope your parents don't let you play with matches.

So you're ok with the 9-11 attack on the west that killed at least 3,000 Americans and some others? You're ok with al Qaeda attacking the west and you don't see the difference between western democracies/ freedom based on Judeo-Christianity and Islamic countries with radical Islam in control. Or more likely you just like to argue about everything. Or do you really think nothing should have been done about al Qaeda attacking the west?

The possibility of war with Iran exists now more than ever too. Iran is believed to be building nuclear weapons which will be a serious threat to Israel and others.

Are you a lefty? We have enough of them in Canada undermining our western alliance to defend the west against Communism and the march of political Islam. Why do you think the west went into Afghanistan? Bet you can't answer that.

Not purely a religious statement. Morality and ethics comes from belief in God and the Bible. Young people are being brainwashed in public schools, the media, and society today into believing in humanism, progressivism and liberalism as the central idea of life. The Bible and Christianity is being driven out of society by the cancel culture, political left, and liberals and fed other poisons.

I will need the secret code to understand that comment.

What other nation than Israel has existed since about 3,500 years ago, was called by God to occupy the land, was dispersed by the Romans 2,000 years ago to various other countries, maintained their ethnicity, religion, and culture, and returned to their land 1900 years later in 1948 to proclaim the State of Israel in fulfillment of Biblical prophecy? No other nation. More evidence of the authenticity of the Bible.

Glad you clarified that.

Says one who dismisses everything himself. Because you have no answers other than you deny God and the truth.

Where did I say I believed there were WMDs. There you go again making things up. At the time, before the Americans actually went into Iraq, likely everyone believed what the media told them about WMDs. However, if you had read my comments closely, I said the justification for the Americans staying in Iraq was not the WMDs but it was al Qaida pouring into Iraq to fight the Americans. So they had good reason to be there as part of the war on terrorism. Why is it lefties seem to support anti-Americanism?

No thread drift at all. This is directly related to the subject of the origin and meaning of life, i.e. God and is a moral and ethical issue. The miracles in the Bible again support the reason for faith in God, which is a central moral and ethical issue. I understand you want to claim moral and ethics has nothing to do with religion or the Bible. That is the secular humanist position. Man decides morals and ethics, not God, which is false. The foundation of all morals and ethics comes from God and the Bible. Bible believers will not be silenced or relegated to the back room as you want to do.

The fact that Jesus lived is not even questioned by people who know anything about history. The fact he existed is recorded by secular historians like Josephus who recorded it around that time 2000 years ago. It's easy to Google this subject and learn more. The Biblical accounts in the four gospels written by four different writers, some in different years, are absolutely credible. The way the are written lends more credibility to their accounts. We have lots of skeptics and naysayers who have not really studied this weighing in on it.

Don't forget Roman Catholicism won't save you either. Do you think you are safe because you are a RC and can ignore the subject of God? It is largely based on inventions of men rather than the Bible for the purpose of increasing the control by Rome. Why do you think they teach salvation comes through the church's sacraments administered by the priests? This is contrary to the Bible which teaches salvation is strictly by faith through grace. Not to mention the idolatry of Mary worship and praying to saints, etc.

There is lots of evidence of God performing miracles recorded in the Bible. These were recorded by eye witnesses or passed on from eye witnesses to those who kept a record. Eye witnesses are given paramount importance in courts of law. Why not when they are recorded in the Bible? http://www.graspinggod.com/support-files/list_of_old_testament_miracles.pdf

The WMDs was the pretext the Americans used to go into Iraq but the war itself was part of the war on terror started by the 9-11 attack on America. If it had been just about getting rid of WMDs the Americans would not have stayed in Iraq for years. They would have left right away because there was no WMDs in Iraq. But when the American landed in Iraq, thousands of al Qaida terrorists from all over the middle east travelled there to fight the Americans. As a result the war on terrorism continued in Iraq for years.

The Trump - Russia collusion thing was debunked by the investigation long ago. Wasted millions of dollars investigating it and found nothing. Where have you been hiding?

The Iraq war was not a scam. Were you aware that al Qaida terrorists travelled to Iraq by the thousands from all over the middle east when the Americans were there for the sole purpose of fighting the American great Satan. al Qaeda is just a branch of ISIS. Who do you think the Americans were fighting against in Iraq? Have you heard of the war against terrorism after 9-11? That was what the war in Iraq was all about. Surprising how widespread ignorance is on the subject of the Iraq war.

Your experiences gave you a taste of religion but perhaps you never were properly taught the truth of the Bible. I don't know what your knowledge of the Bible was or what you believed then or now. See my comment about the history and accounts in the Bible of God's miraculous power. Whether you agree or not doesn't change the fact that countless miracles and events are recorded in the Bible adding to it's authenticity as coming from God. The simple fact is a complex universe required an intelligent designer. Complex things which operate under complex physical laws do not just happen themselves. They require intelligence behind them.

Quote The Old Testament contains 39 (Protestant), 46 (Catholic), or more (Orthodox and other) books, divided, very broadly, into the Pentateuch (Torah), the historical books, the "wisdom" books and the prophets.[4] Unquote - Wikipedia The account given in Genesis, the first book of the Bible, gives an account of the creation of everything including Adam and Eve, the first humans about six thousand years ago. The first five books of the Bible were written by Moses, who lived about 1570 B.C. or 3,570 years ago. Moses was sent by God to bring the nation of Israel out of slavery of Egypt 1,491 B.C. or 3,491 years ago. The Jews still celebrate the Passover, which took place in Egypt about 1,491 B.C. or 3,491 years ago shortly before the Israelites were led out of Egypt by Moses. Exodus tells how God performed many miracles to force the Pharoah to let the Israelites leave Egypt under the leadership of Moses. The Passover is strong evidence that the account of the Israelite' captivity and God using Moses to bring them out of captivity in Egypt actually happened as described in Exodus, the second book of the Bible. The fact the Jews still celebrate the Passover today means it actually occurred as recorded in the Bible. The Old Testament was written over a period of 1,200 years beginning about 3,570 years ago and completed about 400 B.C. or 2,400 years ago. It was accurately copied and handed down through the ages by the Jewish scribes who were very meticulous in copying and caring for it. The Old Testament has many events demonstrating the miraculous power of God. One would have to read it to find out. This website gives a long list of miracles God performed: Miracles in the Old Testament - Bible History (bible-history.com) This site gives a timeline of the Old Testament. What is the basic timeline of the Old Testament? (compellingtruth.org) Quote The original Passover, found in the Bible, is a memorial to God passing over the houses of the children of Israel when He killed the firstborn of man and beast in Egypt. This miraculous event and its meaning occurred during the night of the fourteenth of the Hebrew month Nisan. It is not a memorial of the Israelites' exodus out of Egypt. 'On that night I will go through the land of Egypt, killing every first-born male, both human and animal, and punishing all the gods of Egypt. I am the Lord. The blood on the doorposts will be a sign to mark the houses in which you live. When I see the blood, I will PASS OVER (from where we get the term Passover) you . . . (Exodus 12) Unquote The New Testament was completed by about 90 A.D. by the apostles and prophets who were eyewitnesses of the resurrected Christ or had direct knowledge from eyewitnesses of Christ themselves. You mentioned the figure 60 years, which is very close to the period the New Testament was completed, which is within 60 years after the crucifixion and resurrection of Christ.

You are aware that the Bible, which goes back 3,500 years and was written by prophets and apostles who witnessed the power of God over a period of 1,500 years speaks completely against your position.