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Alright, sorry if I did not explain it properly. I also don't entirely blame you for not having all this information. It appears most people have no idea of the root causes and history of antisemitism. Most know very little about it. Please bear with me. I just found what appears to be a very excellent article describing the roots of antisemitism over the past 2,000 years. It seems to include a wealth of information on the subject. This may be the best article I have come across on the internet on it. I am not sure if I should post part of it on here or just give the link. I think it may be too long to post the whole article. Some people get upset if I post something that is too long. I will paste the first part of the article here, but please go to the link because the whole article gives extremely valuable information right up to the present on this subject. quote Anti-Semitism, (see Researcher’s Note) hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a religious or racial group. The term anti-Semitism was coined in 1879 by the German agitator Wilhelm Marr to designate the anti-Jewish campaigns underway in central Europe at that time. Nazi anti-Semitism, which culminated in the Holocaust, had a racist dimension in that it targeted Jews because of their supposed biological characteristics—even those who had themselves converted to other religions or whose parents were converts. This variety of anti-Jewish racism dates only to the emergence of so-called “scientific racism” in the 19th century and is different in nature from earlier anti-Jewish prejudices. The persistence of anti-Semitism into the 21st century and the marked rise in anti-Semitic incidents in the early decades of the century have prompted new consideration of how to define and combat the phenomenon, which has both incorporated old tropes and taken on new forms. The origins of Christian anti-Semitism Anti-Semitism has existed to some degree wherever Jews have settled outside Palestine. In the ancient Greco-Roman world, religious differences were the primary basis for anti-Semitism. In the Hellenistic Age, for instance, Jews’ social segregation and their refusal to acknowledge the gods worshipped by other peoples aroused resentment among some pagans, particularly in the 1st century BCE–1st century CE. Unlike polytheistic religions, which acknowledge multiple gods, Judaism is monotheistic—it recognizes only one God. However, pagans saw Jews’ principled refusal to worship emperors as gods as a sign of disloyalty. Although Jesus of Nazareth and his disciples were practicing Jews and Christianity is rooted in the Jewish teaching of monotheism, Judaism and Christianity became rivals soon after Jesus was crucified by Pontius Pilate, who executed him according to contemporary Roman practice. Religious rivalry initially was theological. It soon also became political. unquote Anti-Semitism | History, Meaning, Facts, & Examples | Britannica I hope this helps. I plan to examine this closely myself as it is full of valuable information. Also, I would add that much of the professing Christian church has been one of the main sources of antisemitism in the past 2,000 years. Antisemitism and any form of hate is entirely unbiblical and cannot be justified as it goes against the major command to love thy neighbour as thyself.

You dismiss the Bible but it actually tells the truth about mankind. Man is a fallen, corrupt being with an evil heart. Therefore nations must fight to survive or be taken over by criminals such as the large terrorist organizations in the middle east. Who do you think runs Iran? Nice democratic-minded human rights people or deadly dictators like the Ayatollahs? That is the way the world is. You don't think Israel has a right to defend itself. You prove you don't understand the world. You just wanting nice peaceful countries throughout the world won't make it happen. You live in alternate reality.

So you can't understand that the PLO political leadership in the West Bank have no control over terrorist organizations such as Hamas, Hezbollah or individual terrorists? That is what your picture is, the political leadership. They do not control the terrorist organizations. You need to increase your knowledge a bit.

Do you understand there can be no "two state solution" because terrorist organizations will never agree to Israel's right to existence and no organization can control them or stop them from their attacks? They are partly controlled by Iran and also operate from Lebanon via Hezbollah which controls the Lebanon government.

No they would not. The terrorists don't believe Israel has a right to exist... period. They consider all of Israel belongs to the Arabs (Muslims) and they will never settle for less.

Britain occupied north America above the U.S. on the continent and it eventually became Canada. Practically every country in the world occupied their territory at some point in history. Israel considers the West Bank as part of Israel. It is situated right in the heart of Israel, a kind of carve out. It is also a home for terrorists who want to eliminate Israel. The only solution is to occupy it with security forces that are strong enough to deal with them. Failure to do that just allows terrorist organizations to move in and build up. A vacuum creates hostile entities. That is what happened in Gaza. There are also lots of young Muslim Palestinians who seem to be ready to attack an Israeli with a knife even if it costs them their life. That is Islam. They believe they will go straight to heaven and have 70 virgins if they do stuff like that. So how do you deal with that in your own country? That may require extreme measures. I am not sure what the solution is to that kind of terrorist right in your own backyard. But something must be done to put an end to that situation whether it be deportation or what. I don't know of compulsory education is even possible, maybe not. They have been brainwashed from a very young age and are now just walking killers.

You still have not explained how you do that with people that don't recognize your right to exist.

You confused me by saying there are extremists in every religion. By extremists I mean terrorists that do harm to other people. I don't mean people that are enthusiastic about what they believe or try to convert other people. That is not what extremist means in this subject. Extremists also don't mean people in a cult or false beliefs systems. So when you say there are extremists in every religion, I don't know what you mean. There are millions of Christians in thousands of church denominations in the world. They don't go around blowing up other people or killing other people. You never hear of suicide bombers from Christian churches. That is just not done. So they are not extremists. So I would not say there are extremists in the Christian religion. There were in past centuries when the Roman Church ran the Inquisition and tortured and killed heretics. That was extremism. but that was centuries ago.

That is not my problem. I don't control the world or what some extremists believe. So-called Christian terrorists are a figment of your imagination. They don't exist. There are some extremist groups in the west which you mentioned like the Proud Boys and a few others, but they are not Christian groups. They are an extremely small percentage of the population. They like to stir the pot by protesting and demonstrating sometimes, but they don't go around doing suicide bombing and mass terrorist attacks. Extremist groups don't listen to Bible believers. I don't want anything to do with them. Thanks anyway.

So you are in denial. Look at a map of the middle east. Israel is a very tiny country and surround by many large countries that are full of Muslims. There are probably hundreds of millions of Muslims in the middle east. They all hate Israel and Jews. There is not much one can say about it. That is the situation. There is no possibility that they can be trusted to accept Israel's right to exist.

As I recall, I already gave you that information and posted links to articles. Nothing stopping you from doing a search either.

There are hundred of millions of nominal Christians in the world and only a small percentage of that would be actual Bible believers. But there are two billions Muslims in the world. How many of them believe what the Koran says about violence toward non-believers? White supremacist groups make up a very small number of people. How many I don't know but they are not part of the churches or denominations that I know of. On the other hand, when we see the thousands of people in Islamic countries on the television news demonstrating against Israel and the west, we know there is a large percentage of Muslims that may be extremists to one degree or another. You never answered the fact that there are Jihadist attacks almost every day or so somewhere in the world. The fact is some Islamic countries have the death sentence for blasphemy. That shows how extremist some of them really are. So what percentage of Muslims would support extremism or Jihad? That's the question. The news media just reported that one quarter of Canadians don't trust Muslims. Why would that be?

The fact is you deny or question what 99.9% of the civilized world believes or accepts as the facts. Out of the thousands of political leaders, scholars, history experts, is there even more than a few percent that would agree with you? I doubt it. The facts behind the 9-11 attack are overwhelming and unquestionable. The number of people who would question that would be extremely small. Again you are proving you have a kind of streak in you that just wants to question everything no matter how bizarre or outlandish your position is. Same with the Holocaust. Yet you seem to have a penchant for reading some conspiracy theory or denial website or writings somewhere that opposes what the world overwhelming accepts. If that gives you satisfaction, that is your choice. I am not buying it. It's not worth debating those things either. In most cases denialists or conspiracy theorists can't be convinced of anything even with all the facts staring them in the face.

Terror groups are not Christians. It is contrary to the Bible. You don't seem to know the difference or you deliberately lump all people who call themselves Christians into the same mold. Secondly, even the groups you mentioned don't come close to committing the number of terrorist attacks that jihadists commit almost every day of the year.

Nonsense. Christian extremists would be extremely rare or actually non-existent. You can't be a Bible believer and a terrorist. Those two things are completely incompatible. But you can be a Muslim and if you follow the Koran, you can be an extremist at the same time because that's what it teaches. Why do you think it is called the "religion of peace"? The number of terrorist attacks by jihadists around the world is very high. Why are you denial. I think I know the reason. Almost everything you post is simply to oppose our western Judeo-Christian civilization. Take a look at the religion of peace website if you don't believe me about the number of jihadist terrorist attacks in the world. Islam: The Politically Incorrect Truth (thereligionofpeace.com) The few terrorist attack by non-Muslims are not being done by Christians. Christians are not terrorists. Why are so many people in Hamas or Hezbollah or various other Islamic terrorist groups in the world? Where are all the Christian terrorist groups that you claim exist? Good grief.. I never thought I would see anyone that thinks like you on here.

You still don't seem to get it or are in denial. Jihadists attack people somewhere in the world almost every day or so. You could say only a percentage of Muslims are extremists. The is true, but how does a country like Canada, the UK, and European countries determine who is an extremist? Worse than that, how does a country tell who will become radicalized and become a threat such as we have seen in European countries regularly? I don't see how any immigration department can screen out potential extremists or people who will become extremists. You trying to say it is like any other religion is ludicrous.

Israel is a very tiny piece of land to begin with. The Arabs who are Muslims make up all the countries surrounding Israel and they cover a vast area. The other thing is many of the Palestinians and the Muslims in surrounding countries have no intention of recognizing Israel's right to exist and are willing to fight against Israel any way possible. So how would your proposal make any sense? How would you divide up an already very small country with people who are intent on eliminating you completely? Any reduction in the size of Israel would also present a serious security threat because they are already surrounded by many enemies who have huge populations. This means your comment about Israel and Palestinians sorting out their problems and agreeing to divide up the land is nonsensical. It is ignoring the reality of the situation. It is one of those feel-good meaningless statements.

No it doesn't. There was no such thing as "church" in ancient times of Israel and the time of Moses, which was long before the church age began. Israel was given special laws that they were to follow which do not apply to the church age which began 2,000 years ago. " A holy nation (23:1-25) Various laws prohibited foreigners, eunuchs and people born through immorality from joining fully in Israel’s public worship. This discouraged Israelites from copying heathen practices or marrying heathen people. At the same time it impressed upon them the holiness God required (23:1-8). Holiness also demanded high standards of cleanliness in the camp, particularly in matters concerning discharges from sexual organs and treatment of human excrement (9-14). Other features of life in surrounding nations that the Israelites were not to follow were the practice of sending back runaway slaves for the sake of gaining a reward, and religious-sexual fertility rights with temple prostitutes (15-18). God’s people were to be faithful to him by doing what they promised and by loving one another, such as in helping the needy with money and food (19-25; see notes on Exodus 22:21-31; Leviticus 25:35-46)." Deuteronomy 23:1 - Verse-by-Verse Bible Commentary - StudyLight.org

Wow! A genuine 9-11 denier. Heard from someone on here you are also a Holocaust denier. Is that true? I am not going to waste my time refuting such deniers because I know no matter what I post you will still deny it just as you do with everything else I post.

I thought that Muslims follow the Quran; doesn't the Quran say to kill the infidels (non-Muslims)? Some websites deny this and claim it does not teach that, while other websites say it does. How does a Muslim know what the truth is? "The Koran (translated by Dawood in Penguin Classics series) says, "When the sacred months are over slay the idolaters wherever you find them" (Sura 9:5). "When you meet the unbelievers in the battlefield, strike off their heads" (Sura 47:4). "Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home: an evil fate" (Sura 9:73). "The true believers fight for the cause of God, but the infidels fight for the devil. Fight then against the friends of Satan" (Sura 4:76). Who are these idolaters and unbelievers and infidels? Those who are not strict Muslims. "Muhammad is God's Apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another" (Sura 48:29)." Think again: The Koran does say to kill infidels | Opinions | bozemandailychronicle.com Should this be enough to reject followers of this religion? Or how do you tell?

That would mean a major war, maybe a world war, not something anyone wants.

It is worse than that. He pontificates and lectures Canadians on the CBC, CTV news regularly. A guy who has said bad things about the truckers / anti vax protesters, evangelical Christians, conservatives, and now people who burn natural gas to heat their homes are unworthy. Only his Liberal constituencies in the maritimes deserve a break on the carbon taxes on home heating. He is nobody to be lecturing Canadians about anything. He is a real cause of division.

quote Israel conquered the West Bank during the Six-Day War in June 1967. Soon afterwards, Israeli civilians began moving to the region, initially to areas like Kfar Etzion that had been home to Jewish communities before Israel’s founding in 1948. In 1968, a rabbi named Moshe Levinger and a small group of followers who embraced a messianic version of religious Zionism moved into the ancient city of Hebron, in the heartland of the West Bank. Hebron is a holy city for Jews because it is believed to be the burial place of the Jewish patriarchs and matriarchs Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Sarah, Rebecca and Leah. The population of Israelis living in the West Bank has mushroomed over the years. An estimated 430,000 Israeli Jews now live in 132 officially recognized “settlements” and in 121 unofficial “outposts” that require, but haven’t yet received, government approval. Constituting about 15% of the West Bank’s total population, these “settlers” live in their own communities, separate from the area’s approximately 3 million Palestinian residents. unquote Israel’s West Bank settlements: 4 questions answered (theconversation.com) Israelis consider the West Bank as part of Israel. It is a disputed territory. But what makes you come down on the side of Palestinians rather than Israel? Remember Israel conquered it in the 1967 war.

That is simply not true. The number of abortions in Canada is: Annual Abortion Totals by Year 2020 2019 2018 2017 2016 2015 2014 2013 2012 2011 91,155 83,576 85,294 94,030 97,764 100,104 100,194 102,446 100,958 108,844 These are infinitely valuable human beings. Remember "every child matters" that we see on the orange shirts. Canada needs every unborn child as well to help contribute to our country's social services and our Old Age Pension for everyone when they retire. That is why we are bringing in half a million immigrants per year. To try to keep our pensions and everything else going. However, that is just one practical reason for protecting human life. The bottom line is human life is sacred. We are created in the image of God. quote More Canadians are ending their lives with a medically-assisted death, says the third federal annual report on medical assistance in dying (MAID). Data shows that 10,064 people died in 2021(opens in a new tab) with medical aid, an increase of 32 per cent over 2020. The report says that 3.3 per cent of all deaths in Canada in 2021 were assisted deaths. On a provincial level, the rate was higher in provinces such as Quebec, at 4.7 per cent, and British Columbia, at 4.8 per cent. “It is rising remarkably fast," University of Toronto law professor Trudo Lemmens, who was a member of the Council of Canadian Academies Expert Panel on Medical Assistance in Dying, wrote in an email to CTV News. He noted that some regions in the country have quickly matched or surpassed rates in Belgium and the Netherlands, where the practice has been in place for over two decades. unquote Medical assistance in dying given to 10K Canadians in 2021 | CTV News The number of deaths by MAID in 2022 is much higher that previous years, possibly over 13,000. It will be much higher this year and then next year they are loosening the criteria so the figures will be even high from 2024 on. This has nothing to do with how Canadians "get along" or the fact that advances in medicine, etc. increase the lifespan for many people. This is a descent into darkness, barbarism, heathenism, and decadence of society in general. It is a tragic decline of Judeo-Christian values and loss of respect for human life.

Only lawful authorities could issue the death penalty even in ancient times in the Old Testament. I already answered that question before. Does the Bible require the death penalty for homosexuality? | GotQuestions.org