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No, he is the head of a religious system, Romanism, and there is no way you can justify forcing Canadians to pay 35 million dollars for a Papal visit to Canada. If it was a head of state, he would come here for a few hours and we would provide security for the visit But the Pope came for a religious purpose and spent days travelling around the country doing his religious functions and meeting with his faithful. Nothing to do with state to state matters. He is acting in his position as the head of the Roman system. That's all there is to it. Stop trying to force Popery on Canada at taxpayer's expense. That is what is hypocrisy. You pretend you are not being religious but are arguing for Popery being paid for by Canadians. The only reason for the Vatican to claim to be a state is to use it as a cloak for its religious power. Don't be so naive. It is purely a religious visit. All religious business for the benefit of the Roman system.

The Vatican state exists for propaganda purposes which you fall for. They likely own more real estate and have more wealth in the world than the Canadian government's annual budget. Keep your fingers off hard-earned taxpayer money. You say keep my religious conflicts elsewhere while you use Popery to con Canadians out of their hard-earned money for a Papal visit. That hypocrisy. Get real. No to Popery. You're not fooling anyone.

" The Vatican is making a plea to over a billion practicing Catholics around the globe as they have nearly depleted their financial reserves. This comes following a 2020 in which many of the standard revenue sources, including donations, dried up for them and most other religious groups due to Covid-19 lockdowns. But are they really as broke as they claim? The key to understanding this is the fact that they’re focused on financial reserves. To the laymen, this may seem to equate to their savings account, but that’s not actually the case. The Vatican still holds billions—and some claim it’s likely into the trillions—of dollars worth of property, shell companies, and other assets that help them hide a vast amount of accumulated wealth over the centuries." The Vatican says they're broke. Are they? (noqreport.com) " Jesus, the founder of Christianity, was the poorest of the poor. Roman Catholicism, which claims to be His church, is the richest of the rich, the wealthiest institution on earth. How come, that such an institution, ruling in the name of this same itinerant preacher, whose want was such that he had not even a pillow upon which to rest his head, is now so top-heavy with riches that she can rival - indeed, that she can put to shame - the combined might of the most redoubtable financial trusts, of the most potent industrial super-giants, and of the most prosperous global corporation of the world? It is a question that has echoed along the somber corridors of history during almost 2,000 years; a question that has puzzled, bewildered and angered in turn untold multitudes from the first centuries to our days. The startling contradiction of the tremendous riches of the Roman Catholic Church with the direct teaching of Christ concerning their unambiguous rejection, is too glaring to be by-passed, tolerated or ignored by even the most indifferent of believers. In the past, indeed, some of the most virulent fulminations against such mammonic accumulation came from individuals whose zeal and religious fervor were second to none." The Vatican Billions - Two Thousand Years of Wealth Accumulation from Caesar to the Space Age (bibliotecapleyades.net) Canadians have been conned and had by our Papist leaders.

You are very naive. Vatican City is a pagan religious system that evolved from the ancient Babylonian religion and you think its ok to pay 35 million dollars to further its interests in Canada. Who cares if they use a tiny piece of land in Italy to claim their own country. That means nothing to any thinking person. But you like to bow and scrape to the Pope and Vatican and think all Canadians should pay for it. Wow! Exactly why we as a country should NOT be bowing and scraping and paying millions of dollars to fund them. They are the richest institution in the world, worth countless billions of dollars. Of course I would oppose paying for the Dalai Lama's visit or any other religious leader. Glad you're not in charge of the country, squandering taxpayer money right and left. These are religious leaders, not nation's leaders. They should pay for their own security and all expenses. Forcing Canadians to pay 35 million dollars for the Pope's PR visit is outrageous in the extreme. Many Canadians are struggling to keep a roof over their head and put food on the table and you think our tax dollars should pay for a papal visit. He is the richest man and controls more wealth than anyone else in the world. They have been accumulating billions and billions of dollars for 1,700 years by extortion of the people. It is nothing but a huge con job. You have been taken as a sucker by Trudeau and company who are Papists themselves.

Anyone who says they believe in separation of church and state but welcomes and partakes in a papal visit and supports paying the 35 million dollars of taxpayer money for it, is a liar and a hypocrite.

Why do liberals, left, and Papists want Canada to become a third world banana republic? They want to bring in a vast numbers of immigrants and migrants from the third world a year. We simply don't have the infrastructure and resources to support them.

Really?? What gave you that idea? We are a country built on the European founding fathers. We have a King who is headquartered in the United Kingdom and speak the same language. When the British took over British North America the official state religion was Christianity, at least in name. Unfortunately we tried to absorb Quebec into British North America and after we formed Confederation (Canada), Quebec pretty well took over control. But Canada as a whole is still built on the settlement of the European founding people as much as liberals and left hate to admit that and have been working to change it ever since by mass immigration from the heathen third world.

It's not all doom and gloom. There is one persistent truth missed by most on here. "16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. " John 3:16 KJV

You know who lifted him to the top position of the land? The Papists or Laurentian Elite that live in Quebec, Ottawa and the 905 of Toronto. These goons keep voting for him no matter what he does. He can do no wrong. He and his Liberal Laurentian friends made Canada pay 35 million dollars to bring his false god the Pope to Canada for a public relations exercise to boost the Papal religion. After all, there's less time in the (non-existent) Purgatory for supporting the Papacy financially but they know most Canadians are as dumb as a dodo about these things and won't say boo. It was ostensibly a mission of Reconciliation to aboriginals but in reality a boost for the Papal church at the expense of the taxpayers. The Papal visit was one huge con job on aboriginals who fell for it.

I would give JT a very low grading on moral and ethical issues and would rate PP higher on some issues such as the economy, law and order, and certain rights, but a failing grade on the abortion issue. I think PP is less of a globalist and less of a Socialist than JT. I am suspicious about JT and Liberal's ties to Communist China and their opposition to the Canadian Forces and failure to properly fund them. But when it comes to voting, I would definitely vote for the Conservatives because there is no other choice. The Conservatives are the least undesirable. I don't trust JT (or liberals for that matter) on anything.

The King James Bible is full of the evidence of God. There is only one God, the God of the Bible and Jesus Christ his Son. Many eyewitnesses testify in the New Testament to the fact Jesus Christ was raised from the dead. If you examine the Bible, Jesus has everything to do with our lives. He is a personal God that is knowable personally. That's the kind of God he is. Every individual can come to know him personally and He will be part of our lives. So he is extremely relevant to society and what is happening in the world, which He created.

In the grand scheme of things, this incident is a trivial pile of manure. Trudeau and gov't squandered 35 million dollars on the Pope's PR visit and nobody says boo. This little incident with a Catholic schoolboy is nothing but a real diversion from the real issues of Trudeau squandering tens of millions of dollars of taxpayer money almost every day. And nobody says beans about it. Is the Italian mafia running this country or the French papal puppets and their lapdogs across the country?

I wouldn't call it a state visit, although I'm sure Trudeau and Liberals would call it that. He is obviously primarily a religious leader and that is what he came for. But we the suckers must pay. This is worse than Trudeau's $6,000 a night hotel in London recently. 35 million dollars!!! What for exactly? I don't think Canada should be paying for Papal visits. That is a religious leader and religious visit. It's a huge scam. The media says quite a bit about the Trudeau $6,000 a night hotel for the Queen's funeral, but says absolutely nothing about 35 million dollars for the Pope's PR visit. Much like the Papal goons on here. Strangely silent. Seems like we are being run by the Italian mafia.

Wait a minute! This closing of Roxham Road is not stopping the flow of illegal migrants. All it is doing is telling them they have to go to a regular border crossing. So how is this going to stop the flow of thousands of migrants? I don't think it is.

The Papacy is a political-religious system and also has its own tiny state. The visit was both political/religious. He came to Canada as head of the Papal system as a public relations exercise to further the interests of the RC system. RC politicians likely believe if they pay for the Pope's visit with taxpayer money they will receive some time off in purgatory and if they opposed it they might burn in hell. Many RC people would likely think the same way because the Papal system has indoctrinated that way of thinking on them for 1,700 years. That's why the Vatican is the richest institution in the world, worth billions. After all Popes claim to be God on earth. What RC person would question the spending? The Vatican Billions : Two thousand years of wealth accumulation from Caesar to the Space Age , Avro Manhattan (1983), fullbook : Avro Manhattan : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

Another aspect of Canadians being forced to pay $35 million dollars for the Pope's recent PR visit to Canada is this gives preferential treatment to one religion at the expense of all Canadians, millions of whom do not belong to this religion. Statistics I found show the percentage of Canadians as Catholic in 2021 was about 44%. In Quebec it is much higher. Montreal listed at about 78%, Quebec City and Sherbrooke about 95%. Is this also another way of placating Romanist Quebec where many of the Romanist liberal politicians and PMs come from? Of course they support billing the rest of Canada for this PR trip. They are the ones doing the billing. In forcing all Canadians to pay for the Pope's visit, I think this could be viewed as a form of religious discrimination against non-Catholics or people of other religions in Canada. It certainly is favouring one particular religion at the expense of the others. What is predicable is the silence of Catholics on this issue. Of course if they are bowing and obedient to their Pope, they will remain silent and question nothing. Just shows the lack of ethics of Romanism-supporting liberals.

Here is an article that goes into the subject of apparent discrepancies: Bible Contradictions Explained: 4 Reasons the… | Zondervan Academic

There is a reasonable explanations for seeming contradictions. If you want to not believe because you think there are contradictions, that is your choice. Everyone is free to believe what they wish. You may be able to find explanations for seeming differences if you do a search through Google or a search engine. This seems rather pointless. I'm not convinced you really want to know the answers.

I just gave you the explanation from the reputable Ungers' Bible Handbook. Not much further I can do.

I just found the explanation in Unger's Bible Handbook. Matthew is the gospel of the Son of David The Matthew genealogy shows His Royal Descent 1-17 Luke is the Gospel of the Son of Man "The Human Genealogy of Jesus, 23-38. quote In Luke we have Mary's genealogy in contrast to the one in Matthew where Joseph's genealogy is presented. ... In giving Mary's line Luke presented Jesus' blood descent. "the Son of David, according to the the flesh" (Rom. 1:3) In Mt 1:16 Joseph is called "the son of Jacob," in Luke "the son of Heli" (Lk 3:23), by which Luke means son-in-law of Heli, who like Joseph was a Davidic descendant. Cfr. for this usage 1 Sam 24:16. unquote -Unger's Bible Handbook Does that sound reasonable?

Only a contradiction if you are trying to create one or if you don't understand the context or meaning. It is obvious Matthew and Luke are not giving the same geneologies. There are things that can't be easily understood and sometimes require some investigation. The writers of the New Testament knew what they were doing and I'm sure they would not put an obvious contradiction of geneologies in there. There is a simple explanation why they are different.

It doesn't say that, but it says in Luke 3:23, that Joseph was the son of Heli. The Jews may have considered a son of the father-in-law as a son. That may be the explanation. I don't know any more than that right now. Why else are the two geneologies different?

There is no contradiction. Matthew and Luke are written by different prophets and may have been written with a different purpose. Matthew stresses Jesus was born the Messiah. So he gives the lineage through Joseph's which shows he was a descendant of King David and has legal title to the throne. Luke stresses Jesus was the perfect man and gives the lineage through Mary's father Heli to show he is the physical/blood descendant of King David and the descendant of Adam.

"The story of Joachim, his wife Anne (or Anna), and the miraculous birth of their child Mary, the mother of Jesus, was told for the first time in the 2nd-century apocryphal infancy-gospel the Gospel of James (also called Protoevangelium of James)." - Wikipedia That comes from a Roman Catholic apocryphal book which is not considered a part of inspired scripture and is not in the King James Bible. That is where the claim that Joachim was Mary's father came from. Not from Holy Scripture. It is also related to the Romanist false teaching of Mary's immaculate conception. Not found in the Bible. All that is part of Mary worship. Mary was not a perpetual virgin either. At least one gospel shows Jesus had brothers. Just a proper reading of the geneologies in Matthew and Luke and understanding that one is Joseph's geneology and the other one in Luke is Mary's geneology.

In Matthew's gospel, Jacob was his flesh and blood father and he is giving the throne line. Because Jacob was Joseph's father, he is showing that Jesus has legal title to the throne. Joseph was a legal descendent of the throne line. Because Joseph was Jesus' legal father, he gave Jesus legal right to the throne. The charge that was put over Jesus' head when he was crucified said "Jesus of Nazareth, King of the Jews". In Luke's gospel, Heli was Joseph's father-in-law. Heli was Mary's father. Jews give the lineage through the males. The geneology in Luke is to show Jesus' blood descendancy through Mary. Luke's gospel geneology is to show Jesus was a blood line descendent of King David, which fulfills Old Testament prophecy that Jesus would be a descendent of King David. Purpose of Luke's geneology is to show Jesus' blood line descendency from King David, not Joseph's blood line lineage. Joseph was a descendent of David through the throne line in Matthew's gospel. There is no contradiction. Matthew is Joseph's geneology; Luke is Mary's geneology.