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Another person in Richmond shot today. Witnesses heard awful moaning from a man lying in the street and saw someone running away. The RCMP arrived but it was too late. The man died. This is daily in some greater Vancouver municipality. The government is doing nothing significant to put a stop to this endless shootings and murder. Murderers know they may not be caught and even if they are caught, they will just get a sentence of a limited number of years and will be released.

That's all fine, but hopefully the government didn't have to hand over 100 billion dollars of taxpayer money. As long as it is not being funded by taxpayers. Many people are struggling to make ends meet and many cannot afford to buy a home and don't see much hope on the horizon. I don't oppose negotiating treaties as long as it doesn't put a burden on the taxpayers of the province. We shouldn't be expected to pay for all this FN business startups and payrolls. That is the NDP buying votes at the expense of everyone else.

No, my points are completely valid. Our system of justice historically evolved from Judeo-Christianity and many of our laws are based on that. Your feeling of closeness to ExFlyer is obviously because you are liberal who bows and bends the knee to liberal ideology. It means you constantly pander and think Canadians are guilty of everything that happened in past generations and think we should pay and pay for it forever. Well, if you want to pay, go ahead and pay them yourself. But stay away from everyone else' hard-earned money and property.

Now you clarified your stance. You believe murderers should not be punished with capital punishment. No surprise since you don't accept the Bible teaching on it. How is it anti-Christian since the Bible says it clearly in Genesis 9:6 "6 Whoso sheddeth man’s blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man." Seems pretty clear. God ordained it for murderers at that time. Where in the Bible does it say it no longer applies? Even in the New Testament in Romans ch13 it says "3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: 4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain:" Romans 13:3, 4 KJV Obviously if Genesis states capital punishment for murder and the New Testament says "rulers beareth not the sword in vain", it is pretty clear that God authorizes it. The sword could obviously mean capital punishment. So your argument is with what the Bible says, which men were inspired by God to write. Since what the Bible teaches is the basis or foundation of Christianity, your claim that it is anti-Christian to advocate capital punishment for murder has no credibility. In fact, the opposite is true. It is standing up for justice. Your idea is just the common liberal or NDP babble against God's revelation and justice. That's just the same old soft-on-crime attitude that gave us a failed justice system in Canada. That is why we have so many police officers being murdered and the courts constantly releasing dangerous offenders on bail within hours after they are arrested and the parole board releasing dangerous offenders as well. Good example is the guy who murdered twelve people in the Cree nation last year. He was released by the parole board.

Don't tell me you're going to get on your anti-Christian high horse again. At least I advocate for capital punishment to protect law enforcement, which is far better than nothing.

What would your solution be? Since there is no way the government will bring it back for all murderers at this time, what would be better than at least doing something to protect the police officers? Maybe one step at a time. Not sure how advocating for that is not very Christian. I don't see anyone else advocating for it on here. You missed the point I guess.

I just gave you a couple of basics. I am sure there are massive amounts of evidence from past cases and negotiations to show this particular claim is bogus. A 100 billion for what? How about if they start supporting themselves and demonstrate they are productive citizens for a change.

The problem is there are too many bleeding heart liberals who oppose capital punishment. So it must start somewhere and at least protect the police and prison guards. It is a matter of baby steps to get there and bring some law and order back.

The evidence is there. Everyone has to decide themselves what to believe. 1. The evidence of history proves all countries were settled by people migrating to them from other places. That is the story of how mankind settled the earth. Sometimes one group settled first in one country or region and then a different group moved in and became the dominant people. Nobody had anything to prove they had perpetual ownership. That is an invention by some who are trying to make claims for compensation. 2. God's written revelation makes it clear man was to subdue and occupy the whole earth. The only people that were given perpetual ownership of a land were the Jews in the case of Israel because of the fact God chose them for a special purpose in history. Jesus Christ, the Savior of mankind, was a Jew. Nobody else was given the same kind of ownership of land. "1 And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth." Genesis 9:1 KJV Noah and his sons are the ancestors of everyone alive on earth now. So the whole earth was given to mankind. Aboriginals have no special or perpetual claim on the vast lands they are scattered on. So yes, it can be shown in court that their claim is bogus.

Where have you been. There have been apologies issued repeatedly. Billions of dollars has been paid out under various programs. Compensations even to FNs for the so-called "60s scoop", which was actually provincial social services taking neglected FN kids and abused kids into foster care. But now Canada has been ordered to pay billions for that one. Not to mention the present compensation being paid to FNs who attended day school. Payouts for housing, water systems, and millions for signing treaties and land compensations. The list would be endless. Yet you say nobody has acknowledge anything? Again, where have you been? Turtle Island was created for the use of mankind, not just one race or ethnic group who happened to land here first and occupied only small parts of the land but now claim ownership of it all and demand endless compensation for colonizing by white man.

The best thing Canadians can do for them to show that they are really sorry for what happened to murdered police and their families is to support capital punishment being brought back for murderers of police officers and prison guards. Expressing sorrow and condolences is a nice gesture, but it still doing nothing about the existing failed justice system. All the memorials, condolences, and commemorations is fine but it does nothing to protect other officers in their line of work. We need less talk and more action by our leaders. "6 Whoso sheddeth man’s blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man." Genesis 9:6 KJV "1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. 2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: 4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil. 5 Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake. 6 For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God’s ministers, attending continually upon this very thing. " Romans 13:1-6 KJV

I am not sure how you come to that conclusion. Yes, I think it deters murders. Not all states have it. One thing is absolutely true. The same murderer will not be doing it again. Obviously it sends a message. You know what will happen if you get caught.

Because it is a completely different type of country. Everyone has guns. It is a constitutional right in the U.S. for everyone to own guns, including handguns and assault rifles. Actually more guns than people and there are lots of cities full of criminals and large areas of poverty.

" RCMP Const. Rick O'Brien was shot and killed and two officers were injured, while executing a search warrant in Coquitlam, about 30 kilometres east of Vancouver, on Friday morning. O'Brien, 51, was a decorated constable from the Ridge Meadows detachment and he just recently celebrated seven years of service. He leaves behind a wife and children. "This is an extremely difficult and tragic day," Deputy Commissioner Dwayne McDonald, the Commanding Officer of the B.C. RCMP, said at a news conference. "Const. O'Brien led by example. He had a great sense of humour, he was well respected by his peers, and he was loved in his community," McDonald said. O'Brien succumbed to his injuries at the scene after receiving treatment from first responders, McDonald said. One officer and the suspect remain in the hospital with non-life threatening injuries. The other officer was treated for minor injuries and released. " RCMP officer Rick O'Brien dead, 2 officers injured in Coquitlam shooting | CBC News The number of police being killed in the line of duty has been getting much worse in the past year. Twelve have been killed in the past year in Canada. We need to protect our police officers and prison guards. They are putting their lives on the line in a difficult job and we need to do everything possible to protect them. Capital punishment for killing them might go a good way to helping them. Obviously the existing lenient system is not working. An offender killed two people in the Fraser Valley just over a week ago and he was released on bail. Unbelievable how dysfunctional our justice system has become.

It is not just acceptance that SOGI123 is teaching in the school system. They are actually grooming kids and telling them they can be whatever gender and sexual orientation that they choose. That is far different than teaching acceptance. And to disagree with that agenda, it is hate and discrimination according to you and the LGBT activists. That is a lie and I think you must know it. Teaching acceptance or mutual respect is one thing. But why does it require teaching that LGBT, trans, etc. is normal and any kid can choose to be part of it? This is teaching an ideology and is something totally different. The Ministry of Education also involves Egale Canada in the education system. Egale is Canada’s leading organization for 2SLGBTQI people and issues. This means a prominent LGBTQ group effectively has a lot of control over the SOGI 123 curriculum. If you don't believe the government has this LGBT activist group as part of the education system, just look at the government's own website: "For more information on SOGI in schools and impacts on students, see the 2011 Egale National Climate Survey on Homophobia, Biphobia and Transphobia in Canadian Schools: https://egale.ca/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/EgaleFinalReport-web.pdf" Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity (SOGI) in schools | BC Gov News Both the BC NDP and the current opposition party, now called BC United Party, formerly the BC Liberal Party support the SOGI 123 in schools. The BC United Party have said they won't change it. They changed their name, but not their stripes or ideology. They also support carbon taxes.

A more centrist party is just a cover for liberal party. They are nothing more than liberals trying to claim they are conservatives. One of their supporters mentioned in the article is former B.C. premier Christy Clarke. She was a liberal if there ever was one. It was the BC Liberal Party she led and they were ones that brought in the carbon tax in B.C. in 2008, and then later brought in the SOGI 123 in the education system in B.C. She also signed a deal with China around 2015 to make B.C. a part of China's belt and road policy and build a huge warehouse in Surrey, B.C.

So you want continue to push "queer culture" in schools and you won't vote Conservative because PP said parents have rights too?

The assassination of the Sikh leader in Surrey is absolutely deplorable and should be investigated and those responsible brought to justice. The fact also remains that Trudeau and Liberals/NDP have been and are turning a blind eye to Khalistan extremism in Canada for decades. Liberals and NDP operate on the principle of supporting voting blocks regardless of what it means. This is a huge weakness in the party system of government. It is also the reason Trudeau supports huge numbers of third world immigration and is the reason he support LGBTQ and opposes parental rights. It's all about supporting voting blocks.

This is clearly false. I am not sure what you mean by "sex ed", but the SOGI 123 curriculum (sexual orientation and gender identity) is mandatory in B.C. by the Ministry of Education. Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity (SOGI) in schools | BC Gov News

The Central Okanogan School Board has a webpage describing their policy on SOGI 123 (Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity). They state "Informing people about the experience of someone else will not make them gay or straight, since these are not choices. As children mature, they will self-identify on their own terms about whether they are gay, lesbian, straight, bisexual, or transgender –" Right there they tell the biggest lie or falsehood, however you wish to view it. They claim being gay or straight is not a choice. This is completely false. There is no scientific proof that people are born gay. There are no gay genes or DNA. It is absolutely a choice. The reasons why it is chosen may be unclear, but the idea people are born this way is a complete myth which is widely believed and propagated. It is the underlying excuse that backs up the brainwashing of kids in schools. The onus is not on me or any citizen to prove them wrong. The onus is on the people who are forcing this agenda on society to prove what they are doing is legitimate. Lying is not proof of anything.

Yes, one out of 800,000. Maybe you didn't watch the television news lately, but there were large crowds of them all carrying Kalistan signs. There are 800,000 Sikhs in Canada. They held a referendum and protests with signs recently. I would be willing to believe the great majority favour separation from India to form Khalistan. Seems to be a large part of their religion to have their own state, maybe a Sikh theocracy. Kind of like Islam. Why did they even bother coming to Canada if that is what they are obsessed with? Why did we let all these kind of people into Canada? Liberal votes of course. This has created a monster for the government to deal with. The government is helpless now.

That's exactly why we should never have been bringing all kinds of immigrants into Canada from the third world. We also should not be getting involved in other countries internal affairs in places like India and elsewhere. But many Canadians do not understand the consequences and want to be good boy scouts for the rest of the world. Canadians that get heavily involved in other countries have a very naive view of the world and think the world revolves around them and they believe they can change the world. This is especially true of the Liberals and NDP. This is the same old story with Canada and China. Not wise. Books could be written on this subject and some have. Canada's foreign relations policy is a disaster. Disastrous decisions are made by our governments one after another. Canada's policy re the middle east and the U.N. is another disaster. Look at the disaster that happened in Rwanda. Canada cannot save the world and should realize it.

That is not how things work in many countries. There are many places where separatists are only interested in violence. They are not peaceful and not interested in democracy. Like the Taliban in Afghanistan. They want to impose their own radical ideology on everyone. I tried to explain that but you can't seem to understand that groups that want things by violence cannot be given any leeway. A so-called Khalistan would be a Sikh religious theocracy. What you think about how things should be or how things are peacefully done in Canada is not how it works in the rest of the world.

You are contradicting yourself. Never said it hasn't been going on a long time. Funny how JT appears in photo ops though with Khalistan supporters. He simply doesn't understand the ramifications of his supporting them. They are looked upon as terrorists in India with good reason.

Isn't that what I just said? They don't care which party is in power.