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OK. If you think it's "laziness" that uptake fell from 90% to 15%, and that the massive decline is no way indicates people have become disillusioned with the claimed safety and efficacy of the shots.....I ain't gonna argue with you. They still think the shots are miracles of science, but are just too "lazy". Knock yourself out, man.

"All sorts of reasons" Haha🤣 When uptake goes from almost 90% when forced and terror-driven by media fear-porn 24/7, down to 15% when given actual choice.....well. So.

Kind of goes to show the whole "choice" aspect of it was so much BS. When the gov't doesn't have its jackboots on the necks of people, they seem to make different "choices".

It's like a religion - evidence-free and entirely based on faith and hope, nary a fact in sight.

2020? Erm, okay. Try to keep up - in the convening 4 years since then, multiple studies have shown that myocarditis is not RARE and much more likely to occur post-vax than from the virus itself. Ask any reputable cardiologist - myocarditis is never "mild". Stats are that 50% of those diagnosed with it, will die within 5 years. AND multiple studies have shown the mechanism for why young people are dying on sporting fields - the adrenaline rush, combined with undiagnosed heart issues post-vax induces heart attacks during exertion. Again - many newer studies are available.

It was not communicated. And only reluctantly recognized after thousands of children already had been given vax-induced heart problems. The latest: Dr. Aseem Malhotra, a UK based cardiologist, recently gave a presentation at a Helsinki Inquiry on this: Does 1 in 6000 and 1 in 2700 seem "rare" to you? Would you say that this is a good cost/benefit ratio, considering teens and young adults face a statistically zero risk of severe or fatal covid? Link to his presentation: Dr. Aseem Malhotra Helsink court statement - DocumentCloud

Ya, every time my sister's legs go out from under her and she cracks her head on the floor or walls, from the neurological condition she got from the vax, I tell her to quit whining, get over it and move on. I don't understand why she keeps at this after over 2 years, it's been sooooooo long and we're all tired of hearing about it.

I kind of disagree with this, as the gov't has been found to have deliberately funded fake studies in order to impose restrictions. Remember the infamous Canadian-gov't-funded study that said the unvaxxed were more likely to be the cause of car accidents? 🤪 When Pseudoscience, Politics & Fraud Converge What lengths will ideologically or financially-driven researchers and politicians go to impose their will upon others? Throughout the pandemic we've witnessed a slide from objective clinical research to easily manipulated "real-world" studies to purely fictional simulations completely detached from reality. "Consensus" (aka groupthink) quickly replaced scientific scrutiny and civil discourse plummeted. It became difficult to discern scientific recommendations from political talking points. On April 25, 2022 a very dangerous line was crossed. Leaders in the Canadian research and medical community rubber-stamped a clearly fraudulent study. Its overarching purpose: to use "science" to justify discrimination, sow hatred and reinterpret the notion of inalienable rights. Within hours of the study's official publication, dozens of articles in top national papers flooded Canada warning of the dire risk of merely hanging out with unvaccinated people — selfish souls who refused to accept the new genetic COVID-19 vaccines. The "unvaccinated" were compared to carriers of syphilis, intoxicated drivers and reckless individuals who had no regard for others. Can't get an operation? Blame the unvaccinated! The "science" says so. But did it? This book examines: The man, the politics and the intent behind the faux study. How researchers concocted results to overwrite reality & scapegoat the unvaccinated. The Establishment's willingness to go along with the fraud. How political ideology fed into the analysis. How the research is being used to swindle Canadians out of their Charter rights & freedoms. An Investigative Look Into Fisman's Precedent-Setting Hate Science “FISMAN’S FRAUD is both a disturbing and an exhilarating read. The book exposes what is effectively a crime scene with various agents complicit in producing fraudulent science that was used by media and the Prime Minister to fuel hatred and societal division. Watteel reveals in precise detail how every system of oversight and accountability, from the University of Toronto to the Ontario Provincial Police failed in their duty to act with integrity. The exhilarating aspect is that the book shines a bright light on those responsible. Watteel names names and calls them out for what they are - morally bankrupt. Fisman’s Fraud gives hope that by exposing the fraud justice may prevail and civility restored to this Nation.” — Ted Kuntz, President Vaccine Choice Canada “FISMAN’S FRAUD is a must read that slices through the layers of lost integrity, accountability and responsibility to reveal the greatest deception of our time. Easy to read but hard to swallow, the facts speak volumes in implicating those in power who intentionally failed to keep the ship off the rocks. Although the content is specific to Ontario, the implications were deadly, far-reaching and the situation warrants further investigation. Those responsible are currently still at the helm and the ship is in dangerous waters.” — Vincent A Gircys, Veteran Police Constable, Ontario Provincial Police - Forensic Collision Reconstructionist

Yes. So hilarious. Why do you think Canada didn't use the $2 billion in ventilators? Who cares, right? It's only $2 billion and thank gawd Frank Bayliss, Liberal party insider, was able to make a f*c9ton of money off them.

I worked in medical for years and spent my lunch hours reading medical journals and studies. Not a doctor or nurse, but I started this with better-than-average knowledge. If more people had even a basic understanding of virology and epidemiology, perhaps fewer would have fallen for the faux experts. Most of the "experts" touted by the press were actually not top experts, they were lower on the educational rungs of the ladder - the top experts in these fields were silenced and cancelled for pointing out obvious medical malfeasance. Most of the over-reactions were based on models and Neil Ferguson of Imperial College in the UK was the top modeler used, in spite of years of false predictions and then being caught diddling around with his mistress during the lockdowns he insisted be imposed on everyone else. While people like John Ionniadis, who had a record of level-headedness, were vilified and discredited.

RE: ventilators The protocols for respiratory illnesses were COMPLETELY changed, by non-medical bureaucrats from above. Patients are normally put on vents as a last-ditch effort, and it's a given that most will die after being vented. Few are saved by them. But patients were put on them after having been scared into signing consent to vent forms and docs made over $40,000 USD for venting each patient. Many docs and nurses quit when their horror at actually killing patients was ignored. Be glad Canada didn't go the vent route. whatthenursessaw.com 👈 Check it.

Well, a good chunk of that was that by the time we got our $2 billion of ventilators, the US had already figured out that's what was actually killing people.

Not just "folks". Governments and institutions, which we rely on in times of disaster. Some countries have had, or will be having Covid Pandemic Inquiries to discuss the over-reactions, what worked, what didn't. I'm not in the "don't ever talk about what happened again" camp. There are important lessons that must be learned from the over-reaction. That's my feeling, tho. Your mileage differs, I guess. Glad you and your's are all okay and came out of it unscathed. Thanks for responding. 🙂

Let's not kid ourselves. YOU might have fooled into believing it was about saving 97-year-olds, but a lot us figured out early on what it was really about: the biggest wealth transfer in human history.

It may be harder for some to just move on, depending on their pandemic experiences. For myself, my sister became permanently disabled by the vaccine and I've been quite alone in supporting her both physically and financially, because no one wants to hear about it. I'm quite involved in the vax-injured and dead community because of it - most don't know how many of us there are. Again, because no one wants to hear about it. Others have lost their jobs and careers over an injection that doesn't give immunity. Pretty much everyone who chose to not take it, were treated horribly by society - zealots calling for jailings, fines, confinement to homes, not being able to see loved ones for years at a time, missing funerals and weddings, not being allowed to be with their dying elderly loved ones, and the elderly themselves being condemned to die alone. Some had children who suffered from school lockdowns that went on far too long and for no scientific reason, or teenagers who committed suicide under harsh lockdowns. Or young people who succumbed to addictions due to extended lockdowns, again for no scientific reason. One of my friends has an autistic son who is still furious about not being able to go to his high school graduation and prom. It changed lives, often for the worse. And finding out it was all for nothing..... People need to make sense of it all. And to be heard.

Ahhhh. You're against re-hashing this topic. So......you're here on this thread talking about it, to stop it being talked about, or.....? Thanks for your answer. I lived there for a while - beautiful state. I miss it a lot.

Just curious.... In most instances I agree a neutral stance is better, unless there is a moral imperative involved. It seems that you do not see a moral imperative in forcing people to participate in an experimental medical procedure and chose a neutral stance - saying nothing either way, whether people chose or were forced. Wondering why you have an interest in this thread now. Peace ☮️

Hahaha 🤣 Stunningly amazing.

Okee dokee.

Erm.....for the reasons I gave in the post, via that new guy's comments about Nancy. Still having trouble with reading comprehension, I see. Nothing in my post was directed at you personally ( did you see yourself personally tagged or anything....??), so.....Nope. Not important to me what you care about or not.

Amazing how some went from **clutches pearls** "If even one life is saved, than forcing people to accept an experimental medical procedure is fine" .....to..... "Some children will be killed or permanently disabled, but... 🤷‍♂️ meh 🤷‍♂️...who cares?"

Some of us think killing and maiming children so 97-year-olds can have a couple extra months is what is completely insane. And frankly, most 97-year-olds would not want that either, had they been told the truth. In medical ethics there is a cost/benefit analysis involving the calculating of years of life lost: Years of life lost due to premature mortality (YLLs) Years lived with disability (YLDs) Disability‐adjusted life years (DALYs) But we threw out medical ethics for this virus, along with basic immunology, virology and science.

I look at people differently now, too. Those who cheered on job firings, social shunning/ jailing of the unjabbed, forced medical experimentation, mandates and removal of human rights - are pure evil. Those who knew it was wrong and stayed silent - pathetically weak.

These are the very reasons why some of us will not "just move on" and forget about it. It's not to set "Nancy" straight - there's no helping Nancy see the truth. It's to help the ones who were on the fence and just went along with insanity "to get along", but felt in their souls that something was just not right with everything happening. We are at the intersection of Milgram and Ashe.