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A good percentage of businesses Q4 is where they make most of their hay. As much as we think a bad Q2 is, it's still not where a lion's share of retail is done.

I'll go so far as to say that with this "New Normal". Cold and Flu season will be greatly impacted and hospitalization due to other communicable diseases might drop.

I don't agree. Everyone is keenly aware of what they touch in public and when they touch their face. Workplaces are taking hygiene seriously. And people can't crowd into grocery and departments stores. The weather contributes to it, but some of the Sunbelt states are the ones that have cases spiking in the US. Brazil is in a bad spot right now. I think a lot of that is because of derelict government. I would be surprised if we see a spike in the summer. The key is how society weathers a "Second Wave" in the fall. I think our economy would be absolutely destroyed if we have to endure all this again during a Holiday Season.

From the most recent stats I linked earlier. 24,341 is huge.

The testing has actually increased impressively. DoFo said anyone can get testing. Is that even a reality in all of the US? But as you say, unless you make testing mandatory it's always just a snapshot of the people that decide to go get tested.

How is Ontario undercounting the virus? https://www.ontario.ca/page/how-ontario-is-responding-covid-19 They release daily figures that include a myriad of demographics. They are now doing well over 20,000 tests a day and they've reached a point where people can get tested for shits and giggles. You don't need symptoms or have traveled recently.

Could say the same to the MAGA crowd no?

Except in the GTA Nice of them to up to gathering limit to 10 region wide.

Then we have Arizona and Texas. https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/us-coronavirus-spreading-south-1.5607770

In some of the best TV shows this Century, the protagonists are actually the criminal. (Breaking Bad, the Wire, Sopranos) Just sayin'. True Detective is an outlier.

Did you see the video?

They're not coming to do Middle wage jobs. They're jobs that no one in America will do.

Culture and Race are two very different things. And why do you assume that my opinion on this is based on being force fed biased Liberal media. To a Fox News viewer, anything that's not Fox or the Rebel is Liberal tripe.

I don't disagree with that. White people also fall victim to similar circumstances. But you have the likes of Trump that sympathize with them because Elites have victimized them. 45 also hates brown people that want to come to his country and work so. . .

Sure there's this broken window element that got a lot of black people in jail and in a cycle of crime for things the white people never had to deal with. Such as Drug crime. It's Black people that got Biden nominated, so I suspect he's been forgiven. It's also black people's apathy that got Trump into the White House.

I think you have already. I'm not self-hating. I don't have the arrogance to judge other races for how they feel. And the arrogance to accuse someone that they're just being brain-washed by the media. Want to post a Fox News clip to counter-act this narrative?

I come off as Liberal here because there's no point debating Conservative issues here. It's mostly liberals. In the US, it's culture and attitude that comes from decades of subjugation and segregation. Immigrants come here for a better life, FN communities were here from the beginning and AA communities were brought here to work for free. I think that's a cultural element that sticks with generations.

I think Whitey conveys the distain at how I feel seeing White people telling Black people how they should feel about their interactions with the police. But I digress. Were you in Der Cooler? Haven't seen you in awhile, I spent some time in there recently myself. Good times.

Would you prefer caucasian?

And I'd like to point out that when we talk about Black violence, it's overwhelmingly gang violence involving drugs. If it upsets whitey so much then maybe they should stop doing illegal drugs and the demand may dry up. Or make those drugs legal and regulated. But it actually doesn't when a black person kills another black person to protect turf it doesn't really bother anyone. The real problem is that, for people living in poverty, a life of crime selling drugs to Whitey is more lucrative than working at Walmart.

I didn't notice he pulled a gun. So I'm less outraged, but it seems they also tazed him. It initially looked like an he was executed. I withdraw my outrage. . .somewhat. I'm saying it. And the reaction to the Buffalo assault would indicate that people are also outraged when White people are assaulted. The sentiment is that many non-criminal black people do fear the police. Those number don't show up in death figures. But often cops actually look for interactions with black people just to see if crime is being done. See Carding or Stop and Frisk. That would bug me to no end. And to say, well lots of black people are violent, so you deserve more scrutiny wouldn't help much. And no one would criticize the police for reacting violently to someone acting violent. It's when they act violently to someone that's not being violent that gets people upset.

Well let's examine that. As BC2004 notes, the rate of violent crime is on a decades long downward trend. https://www.statista.com/statistics/191219/reported-violent-crime-rate-in-the-usa-since-1990/ But Cops still kill way more people than in other countries. https://www.prisonpolicy.org/blog/2020/06/05/policekillings/ Let's remove race from the equation. It's a cop problem. . . period. Why are you asking that? Is that an assumption you're making. We have dash cam footage of Cops doing their job properly. What do they want? A cookie? It's the instances where they aren't doing it well that we should have some exposure to. Remember, in the Floyd killing, they weren't charged initially and I'm sure if there were no footage they wouldn't have even been fired. If cops have authorization to use lethal force, every interaction they have should be documented by video.

Like Schools, Gyms, Malls, Restaurants, Sporting Events etc. Those are places that still remain largely closed. I'd like to hope that people are being super vigilant on Social Distancing and hygiene now. Plus a lot of the examples listed above aren't widely opened yet. Let's see what happens when travelling starts up again. Cite some of the interesting details. That sparsely populated places didn't see the infection rate of densely populated ones? That's hardly surprising. Thought many States that have re-opened are now seeing a Spike. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/09/coronavirus-cases-uptick-detected-some-us-states

That's appalling. I've thought for a long time that Cops are largely state-sanction thugs that take their authority too seriously and Defunding the police is actually something we should be considering. They take way too much money from city coffers for what they actually do for society. I think police presence often makes situations worse because they often don't try to de-escalate. If you look at my posting record, this is not a new opinion, I've long thought police are problematic. I think where we depart on opinions is that I don't want to pretend by looking at stats and reports to know that black people's fear and hatred for police is completely unfounded. I know that's not going to convince you, but I will say that these protests aren't going to stop because Whitey says that White people get killed more than black people so you should STFU. Their concerns are warranted. And public opinion is shifting. See NASCAR banning Confederate Symbols, Drew Brees and Roger Goodell. I like to think of myself as centrist. This is what Whitey Lefties do and thinks they're helping. Re-naming streets and tearing down statues don't fix any problems. If you dig hard enough any historic figure can be found wanting by today's standards. The big debate, this week, is Dundas Street in Ontario. Apparently it's named after a slavery sympathizer who never set foot in Canada. But it's huge street that goes from Toronto to Hamilton. We going to re-name that street and town at the end of it because of the reputation of the person it was named after? Fuck Outta Here! Though I can see why Confederate symbols have a problematic sentiment. It's a racist symbol and anyone who sees it for a level of patriotic pride is likely Racist AF.

And you could probably interview another 1,000 black people that don't even watch the news. I think there's a feeling that the police need to have their authority checked. Driving while Black is a thing black people experience. Carding is something black people have to deal with while white people don't. You have reasons for that, but it still must enrage a black person that does everything by the book. Even if they were, it's an over-reaction by any objective standard. Any of these videos can be seen as anecdotal. There was one a few days ago where a guy led the police in a chase, clearly a crime and clearly dangerous, but he surrendered and claimed he couldn't breath, the cops kept going until he stopped breathing and died. They often just go to far and they need to be checked. More accountability, I think what this is all about. In Ontario you have an SIU that investigates all instances with a police interaction involved death. But those reports should be made public, the taxpayer is paying these people's generous salaries we have the right to know what evidence was collected. If the SIU just says "nothing to see here" in the instance of Regis Korchinski-Paquet. I can see some serious outrage, to the level of seen in the US, coming to Canada. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/regis-korchinski-paquet-toronto-1.5606704