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I think what we've seen by the RCMP recently is also atrocious. Does dirty work mean disproportionately targeting minorities for drug crimes?

Americans did too, like Obama he probably would have gotten a 3rd term. Doesn't mean he didn't make any mistakes. OK but it seems like your narrative wants it both ways. Biden can still support BLM even though he was part of the Crime Bill. He can also support BLM even though he's not 100% on board with Defund the Police. That's more of a local policy anyway. Seems Trump's only tactic is to try a smear Biden with his Defund the Police narrative. How can that be if he's the dude that wrote the Crime Bill?

The disparity of black people's interaction with police is by design. sentencingproject.org/publications/un-report-on-racial-disparities/

I think a lot of people would say that the broken window policies of the Clinton Admin is wrong-headed in hindsight. It allowed cops to criminalize racialized communities at a far greater rate than non-racialized communities. Regardless 45 wants to take the mantle of the "Law and Order" President now. Is that how you see the BLM movement? Way to be on the wrong side of history.

The Federal government fund local police? That's news to me. That's more of an issue in Canada where small communities are served by the RCMP or OPP or whatever, instead of their own on local police. The case study of Camden, New Jersey will be how Defund the Police will be sold and not fretting from #45. I think the race is primary to many of the people who've been protesting for 3 weeks now.

If they think their responsibilities are too great then defund the police. Let's have more qualified people hired to deal with the mentally ill. Fair enough, my bad for assuming you were comparing the murder of black man to a murder of a cop. You were only comparing the murder of a black man to a cop being shot in the hand.

Alright, being killed by the police. Or being violently handcuffed for sleeping in your car or jaywalking. https://www.startribune.com/police-st-cloud-officer-shot-in-hand-by-teenager-resisting-arrest/571258362/ Oh, so the cop isn't even dead. I suppose his hand is worth the perp's life.

And look, you have global protests for going on 3 weeks because of it. I can't comment on something you're just describing. I'm not saying there aren't instances where cops have to shoot an armed suspect. But often they shoot unarmed suspects. Or in the case of Philando Castille, the shoot a suspect who showed them zero evidence of a threat.

Want to cite the instances of that? There's a difference between shooting an armed suspect and shooting an unarmed suspect. In the instances that have caused outrage, and unarmed person was murdered.

How about real consequences for killing people at the drop of a hat.

Which speaks to the defund the police movement. If cops aren't social workers and bad people to deescalate situations, then perhaps more of their funding should go towards people that can do that and less money for military equipment and cops that sit around at the bottom of a hill trying to catch speeders.

I think it's easy for someone who's never had a bad interaction with the police to say that he should have just listened to the cops. But as with seen with the Shooting of Philando Castile, even if you do everything right, you still can get killed by the cops. I concede it doesn't make much sense to fight a tazer away from cops, I'm not sure what the end game was there. Then again, he was drunk. The Cops still didn't need to kill him. Where was he going to go? You have his car. I think their pride was damaged from being out muscled by a drunk guy.

"Middle America" can see Left Elites as their enemy. They created the Globalism that stopped them from making a living wage doing jobs a 12-year-old could do. And they're lauded by Trump and his ilk as victims. Trump's success is conning those people into thinking he gives two shits about them. But when minorities (specifically African Americans and FN) point out how they've been victimized throughout generations and how it's created generational problems that'd deeply ingrained in how they live, they'd told to STFU. And don't bother post something that says it is all statistically fake, cuz I can post something that says it's real and then we have to enter into a Fake News argument. It just becomes an exhaustive effort that doesn't convince anyone anything. Dave Chapelle points out that this is the street speaking. And this is their last attempt to change things before there is violence, from both sides. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/12/arts/television/dave-chappelle-netflix-special.html Similar sentiments seen in the Civil Rights protests seen in the late 60's. And it's working, Police reform is coming and they're under a huge spotlight now.

You assume that negative attention is always good attention. With the polarization of the US, it seems most Americans only consume media from like-mined echo-chambers. I think you realize that foreign nation attention is irrelevant. We're all just gawking.

Agreed, but coming from someone with the public narrative as Trump, it's funny. The irony of the state of US politics is only a handful of voters in 5 states are going to decide the election. Any commentary on either side is just white noise.

I think being challenged is the goal of a forum like this. I wouldn't post if all that seen is Trump hating. Echo Chambers are boring. To the point of the first post, Trump's public persona is one where minimizing the virus is to his benefit. And I'm sure that's the narrative we'll see during the rally. But at the same time he makes the prudent move to make everyone sign a COVID-19 specific waiver. It's appalling hypocrisy. I think Trump's strategy is to keep piling up the crazy instances so no one specific one ever stands out.

Because, I don't actually hate America. I like it a great deal. And to see it being led by a Want-to-be Fascist and Compulsive liar is disconcerting. So is the Team A v Team B level of polarization that he's feasting on help his electoral success. This thread was created by a poster than actually seems to support Trump. I like to post when I see something that's especially egregious. As is my right. If you want to post about the Black-face PM, you have that right as well.

Cite where I'm looking to infringe on Trump voters/supporters opinions on anything. I'm making commentary. I notice you don't like to debate the substance of what Trump does, you're more interested in caring why Canadians feel the need to comment. Technically that's thread drift.

I didn't vote for him. You could also ask why so many Canadians on here are so supportive of him. Pretty much the same sentiment, just opposing opinions.

If you inform yourself on a diversity of opinions, then yeah. No more like some grocery stores, public transit.

Because they're largely uninformed rubes. In some places it's not. And this story isn't about masks. Though making mask mandatory would be easier than forcing people to sign a waiver.

Ahhh so this is a tool to enrage the Libs? I don't think anyone is enraged, they're just amused by the Hypocrisy. It will be interesting to see if anyone wears masks.

It's double speak if you're minimizing the threat of the disease to your base and yet making them sign a waiver. Hypocrisy is nothing new however.

COVID-19 is no threat! Wearing a mask is for pussies!!! We need to start Rallies again!!! Oh by the way. . . sign this. https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/11/politics/trump-campaign-rally-coronavirus/index.html You know anyone wearing a mask at a MAGA rally will be targeted and mocked, probably by 45 himself, so also making them sign away any right to sue is hilariously ironic.