WestCanMan

LMAO, you quote CNN and they're less objective than NoKo News. Right now your accusation of me being a liar is still unsupported by even one single sentence in one single post sappy. Go cite a lie that I posted or change your name to 'lying weasel'.

I'll keep that one in my back pocket then, in case I ever lose a 'debate'. (FYI debates includes facts from both sides, not just from me). FYI the 'debate' was already over when I cited your actual lies and you just came back with unsubstantiated sandbox insults.

Your assertion that [insert anything here] didn't happen can almost be considered incontrovertible evidence that it actually did happen.

Nothing that you said is entirely untrue, but it stands to reason that the Americans would lead the charge when they're the ones with the largest and most sophisticated intelligence gathering capabilities, and they're the only ones who know exactly what weaponry is available to be used on the enemies. Why on earth would countries without full knowledge of the situation or of the firepower available and how to best use it be calling the shots? Can you imagine how f'd up NATO would be with Trudeau/Sajjan in a leadership role? I would rather just surrender immediately.

Why, so that you can ignore it and spew some more CNN propaganda?

Blah, blah, blah. You have no shame. It's pathetic. If you recall, even before the election was over, CNN and the left were certifying it free from fraud for some strange reason. They were lying. It was obviously impossible for them to know that at the time they were saying it. Then when all of of the questionable results started coming in, along with the reports of fraud and malfeasance, the left claimed to know with absolute certainty that every single claim made on affidavits was false without even having seen them yet. Those were obviously all lies. Again, it was impossible for them to know that what they were saying was true at the time they were saying it. Now just keep in mind that THE EXACT SAME GROUP OF PEOPLE (you included) who constantly claimed to have evidence that the 2016 election was illegitimate for 4 years, and ended up providing literally zero, is pretending to instantly know that the 2020 election was 100% legitimate despite incontrovertible evidence that it was not. Why do leftists suddenly have so much faith in elections? FYI it's an absolute certainty that at the very least, thousands of votes were cast fraudulently. That number could be in the tens or hundreds of thousands, in the swing states alone. People need to be held accountable. Period. If you're keeping score, not one single claim that I made here was stated without supporting facts. If you think you can find one then trot it out Sap. Right now you're a proven liar with some unsubstantiated accusations. Cite something or toodle off kid.

Was my assertion that there was voter fraud predicated upon the affidavits and sworn court testimony of dozens of people Sap, or is it just a fabrication from my own imagination? (It's the former) Is it fair for me to conclude that when so many people testify under oath to something, that I can refer to it as having credibility or does that make me a liar Sap? (credibility) I'm here sticking to a claim made in court by dozens of witnesses, under threat of perjury. You regularly stick to claims which have had neither direct evidence nor sworn testimony, and which sworn-in witnesses have actually testified to be false. Eg Russian collusion, Kavanaugh rape, etc. Your accusation against me is entirely unsupported Sap, and it's even undermined by the fact that you're conceding that the source of my claims is credible. My accusation against you has logical, incontrovertible proof. Thanks for coming out, now seriously - toodle off.

Again, you're lying sap. Dozens of people signed affidavits and testified in court that they saw serious breaches of election protocols and that they witnessed actual fraud. You have literally no way in the world of ever knowing that all of those people lied, so by definition, your absurd accusation that they are lying is just another example of your actual lying. Fact: you have just been proven to be a liar once again. People such as yourself, who have been proven over and over again to be liars and fabricators, and who are well known to intentionally propagate the blatant lies of others, don't actually get a free pass sap. People here know that you're just a liar and your opinions are valued accordingly.

You can't tell a lie and use it as evidence that someone else lied sapper. For your edification, an example of a lie is something like: "They said that people had signed affidavits and testified in court but they actually didn't." If a news media outlet says that election fraud occurred, but a court rules that there's not enough evidence to overturn an entire election, that does not constitute a lie. It doesn't even mean that they're wrong. It just means that, although they are correct, a judge can't use the amount of evidence provided to overturn an entire election. Your comment to the effect of "People testified in court but CNN said that they were all liars so.... they're obviously liars" doesn't make liars of people who talk about election fraud lol. That's just silly now, isn't it Sapp. Of course you're not going to post examples of what you're claiming. You never do. I've challenged every single one of you leftists here to compare lists of lies by the CNN crowd vs lies by Fox News and none of you have ever risen to the challenge. And why would you? No one likes a public beatdown. Toodle off now sap.

Never is a long time, and it’s especially long when: 1) the gap between red and blue is so wide and so acrimonious, and 2) the foundations that bind Americans are coming apart. Respect for the flag, gone. Respect for the anthem, gone. Respect for the constitution, gone. Respect for the rule of law, gone. Respect for true American heroes & patriots like Abe Lincoln, gone. Why is America even together anymore? What makes people American now? Just their zip code? The people on the coasts and in Middle America don’t merely disagree, they hate each other and they blatantly lie to each other. That’s the makings of an actual fight. Remember that the individual States aren’t like Canadian Provinces. They have a degree of sovereignty which Canadian Provinces don’t, so there’s already a very real degree of separation. The impetus for separation already exists due to the hateful political divide, the chance of crossing a line which can’t be tolerated is very real imo. For example, if the Dems get control of the Senate and upend the judicial system in the US (which even Kamala Harris has advocated for), there’s a really good chance that individual States will start to refuse to acknowledge the rulings of the new Supreme Kangaroo Court. Just remember that the State of Texas (Republic, whatever) already filed a suit to challenge the election results. That’s pretty extreme. They’re in no mood to take orders from a panel of newly-appointed and completely bogus wigs. If there’s a Biden Presidency, and I can’t imagine that there won’t be, the relationship between the States and the WH will be in new territory.

There are three distinct parts of mainland USA and Canada imo: 1) Quebec, 2) the E&W coasts, and 3) the prairies/middle America. It's unlikely that the E & W coasts would remain a single country if the middle was gone, but I imagine that North America would be happier if Quebec was a country, the east coast of the US was a country, the west coast of the US and BC were a country, and the prairies/middle America was a country.

Leftist stupidity is unfathomable. "Gays, lesbians, transgendered and every other gender/sexuality group need to be protected and cherished, and the cis-gendered majority need to bend to every whim of special interest groups regardless of the cost!!!! Islam and communism are the best!!!!" Yeah ok, those two sentiments go hand in hand lol.

Ohhhhhhh, like Russian delusion - 2016 through 2019? Or like when the Demonrats tried to block a SCJ appointment based on the vague memories of some teenage drama that almost certainly never even happened? Or when the MSM was trying to influence the election by spreading rumours that Trump called all soldiers and veterans losers? Gimme a break Beave. You're an ardent supporter of MSM disinformation and literally nothing is beneath you. For you to start pointing your fingers at other people right now is the epitome of hypocrisy.

Then cite a lie Sapper. I’ve cited dozens

To any reasonable person, the biggest lying news outlet 1) isn’t really a ‘news’ outlet by definition, and 2) is the one that they actually catch lying. For me personally, I don’t have to catch a person or organization lying fifty times to write them off. Once is enough to reduce their credibility to almost zero. If they get caught on a second lie then they’ve crossed the point of no return. Catching CNN lying is easy if you are an objective observer. It’s not a daily or weekly occurrence, pretty much everything that they say is wholly or partially untrue, or deliberately misleading. For the CNN fanboys who’ve trapped themselves in CNN’s corner by quoting & defending them over the years it gets harder and harder to admit that they were sucked in. Too bad. You shouldn’t have propagated their lies in the first place.

Questions? We don't answer no stinking questions!

OMG. This coming from the believer of all reports anonymous and/or too vague to be disproven.

Awwwwww, boohoo Beavy. Your hero got busted for being a huge liar. Don't worry. You can still keep your head in the sand.

It amazes me how a site like project veritas can come up with so many stories over the course of a year with their relatively minuscule budget. They only have about 1% of what a news corp like Fox has yet they seem to be out front a lot of the time. I don't think that any one story ever exposed CNN's lies as much as the Van Jones 'nothingburger' video did. Everyone with half a brain already knew that CNN was scum before that came out, but it was from a collection of less vivid stories that all added up to one thing. The PV video was like a silver bullet.

Just because you don't understand what happened doesn't mean that nothing happened. "I never heard any trees falling in the forest, therefor they're all still standing." - Beave

I hope everyone had a Merry Christmas and is having a happy holiday season. Happy 2021 folks!

Long enough for China to start to openly dominate the world, for Russia to grab some more territory, and for terrorism to become a real threat within America again. By Dec 2023 Kamala will be President, but the office will be a running joke by then. Lol. She will never be elected President. Her farce of a Presidency will likely result in 200M votes for the next GOP candidate.

BS. 2,000 children in the US died from Swine Flu under Obama and they did nothing about. How many kids in the US have died of C19, pray tell? I don't fear your stupid questions, I just ignore them. If you recall, I categorized your comments as "CNN gossip" and you never gave reason to assume that it was more than that. Did "The White House" approve of the deal Argus? Do you have a cite for that, or is it just more of your beloved CNN gossip? (that was a rhetorical question) FYI, you really do have a bad habit of citing turdbits of gossip as statements of fact.

You're lying. The actual fact of the matter is that a lot of Republicans "don't think that there's enough incontrovertible evidence to overturn the election". That's not the same thing at all as saying that "Trump's own hand-picked cabinet members don't believe he won the election". That's actually not even an issue at all. What actually needs to be determined is: "Exactly how much election fraud occurred, and who should be held accountable?" I also doubt that there will be enough concrete evidence to overturn the election, but I think it's disgusting that there's an all-out effort to block a proper investigation. It's 100% certain that this was the most fraudulent election in America's history, and that a majority of Americans believe that to be the case. The Dems just want this to all go away, like water under the bridge, and that shouldn't be allowed to happen or democracy has run it's course.

We get it Beave. You're one of the CNN junkies who thinks that "anonymous CNN sources spew incontrovertible evidence" while dozens of people who risk perjury by testifying in court are to be ignored completely. FYI Democracies aren't built on your loose/flexible 'principles' Beave, it's the exact opposite. I'm happy for you if the garbage you're spewing makes you a rock star in an alt-left echo chamber, but it's not adult fare.