WestCanMan

Name a European country not called "Hitler-era Germany" that was worse than Stalin's Russia... I'll wait. That's not easy to do, right? Still, we found ourselves squarely on Stalin's side in WWII. So, sometimes the really really bad guy is lucky enough to end up on the right side of history, albeit briefly. And this is another one of those times. As bad as Russia is, it was the US that was toppling regimes and organizing protests and fixing elections in Ukraine this time. They were even doing research on biological warfare agents in Ukraine (not "creating new ones", but allegedly researching treatments for old ones by their own admission, which involved "keeping a stockpile of biological weapons", which is still in contravention of the Biological Weapons Convention). If you keep honest stock of all that has gone on in that region in the recent and distant past, NATO, and especially the US, are not at all a "defensive alliance", nor the white hats that you're making them out to be. Do an honest appraisal of this situation, and kindly tell me where you spot "US aggression".

I know what I would do if I was Russia and NATO was muscling their way into Ukraine the way they did over the past ten years. I know what "Not one inch past Germany" means. I served in NATO to defend my country, not to muscle into Eastern Europe like this, and get into Russia's grille. You can believe whatever you wanna believe, User, that's your choice, but it doesn't make any of it true. And just bear in mind that you're unable to budge from CBC's/CNN's narrative on this issue, and their integrity is squarely in the center of Bernie Madoff territory. If you wouldn't advise people to invest in Bernie Madoff's hedge fund, why would you peddle a CBC/CNN narrative?

Don't be so convinced of your own "our side is always right" argument: You're viewing this through an extremely polarized lens, not from a "both sides are human" POV Our gov't can't even be trusted to treat Canadians fairly and properly, nor can America's be trusted with their own people. What makes you think we have pure white hats when dealing with Russia/Ukraine? We're talking about the scum of the earth running the US for 12 years between 2008 and 2024. But you trust them? NATO is an extremely aggressive "defensive alliance" in Eastern Europe. You just keep repeating CBC/CNN talking points over and over again... Seriously, where does your position differ from theirs? When was the last time they told the truth about anything?

I like the manner in which you ignore the simple facts of the matter, such as 1) annexation of this kind has been normal all throughout human history, 2) the people of Donbas actually wanted to join Russia, 3) the Ukrainian gov't was bombing their own people in Donbas, 4) Ukraine started the war with Russia by trying to join NATO. It's atrocious what's happening to the people of Russia and Ukraine right now, and this is all on America's puppet regime in Ukraine plus NATO aggression.

Dude, a 50-yr-old electrician told me that "Poilievre is too negative and he has never done anything besides work as a politician" this week. It wasn't like a communist barista that said that, or a pet-therapist, a BLM rioter with an X burned into her forehead, or a 24-yr-old school teacher... a full-grown working man said that shit. CBC's propaganda just works. Somehow, people all over this country still believe what they see on CBC. I'm starting to think that some of these people still secretly believe in Santa but they're too afraid to say it.

That's not what you said when Carney was promising to get houses built.

TBH, what's going to end up happening is you won't be allowed to reference the hate messages in other people's religions, while lying about the Catholic church remains in vogue. You can say things like "every kid that went to the residential schools was raped and every Canadian knew that was happening" despite the fact that it's not even remotely true, but you can't say "mohammed married a pre-pubescent child and had sexual relations with her, and he committed actual genocides" even though those are indisputable historical facts.

OMG THERE WAS THE TIME WHEN MIKE DUFFY CLAIMED NINETY THOUSAND DOLLARS IN TRAVEL EXPENSES WHICH TURNED OUT TO BE LEGITIMATE, BUT THE CONSERVATIVES PAID IT BACK!!!!!!!!! That was, by far, the biggest scandal in Canadian political history, from the CBC's POV. Theoretically it was much bigger than the $900M WE scandal, when Trudeau gave his personal friends there (the ones who lavished hundreds of thousands of dollars on Trudeau's mom and made gag-worthy Hitler-Youth-style propaganda for him) almost a billion dollars to brainwash children.

It's always funny watching you pretend to be "Mr gov't oversight, the ultimate libertarian", and then blindly back the libs or Dems' next level of fascism.

Dude, you couldn't come with any defence at all, so instead of staying quiet you decided to let "Poilievre will probably do it too" fly outta your worthless gob?

Holy f'ing logic-warp, Batman. That shit has been relegated to the experimental stages for 6 decades in all of those 6 decades they never managed to come up with a single working vax that was safe then they belched out the covid jab out in 6 months, start to finish, and gave it to billions of people after no more than a superficial level of trials, only by the vax-manufacturers themselves you know that it occasionally kills people you know that tens of thousands of people, in 1 year in Canada alone, died of covid after taking the jabs you think that's somehow "solid grounds for taking the 'boosters'" 🤣😂 WTF would it take for you to call the jabs "dangerous and useless"? A twenty percent fatality rate within two minutes of the first shot, a 95% chance of acquiring covid, and a 45% CFR? If it was that bad, would you call it a failure, or would it have to be even worse than that? Dude, because I like you, I'm gonna give you a 1-time offer to buy the Golden Gate Bridge from me for the low, low price of $5M. Load the cash into bags of flour and drive it to me in Venezuela, using a speedboat. I will be there in twenty minutes. Thanks in advance.

Amoral POS disorder is real. Seems like about 1B people have it.

That's because your 5-yr old has been witnessing m0r0nic behaviour non-stop from the moment they were born. They know a million ways to say "Mommydad you're embarrassing me again" and they don't even know what the word amazing means yet.

Willful ignorance of such critical information, when it's detrimental to profits, is malicious. When you know that you're going to harm people, and you do it anyways, with zero effort spent on a risk/reward analysis - it's just "profits first", that's malice. When the death of a 7-yr-old is meaningless to someone, you can put that person into the "piece of shit" category and leave them there for life. No reassessment is ever required.

When isn't that the case, tbh... In another thread he's trying to make the case that the Arab-Israeli issues started in 1948, and Oct 7th was justified by what happened in 1948, and nothing before 1948 has any bearing. He always has a reason for justifying the unjustifiable. Even the LPOC giving the CBC and "select media outlets" hundreds of millions of dollars at every election is "necessary". I think that's the 3rd step in an alarming trend: there was a widespread, concerted effort to lend the false impression that children somehow "needed" a vaccine, and that the risk was worth it, when there was no data at all supporting either assertion: neither sickness on the part of children nor evidence to show that the jabs were slowing the spread of covid. It was always a high-risk/zero-benefit scenario, from a purely scientific POV. The child injuries came after the widespread, concerted effort to ignore & refute any possibility that there was a connection between vaccines and serious injury and/or death in young adults... they were vaxed before any children ever started to be vaxed. The "canary in the coalmine" was young adults dying and being severely injured but somehow we willfully ignored that and moved on to vaxing children It was only at that point that we started putting maximal effort into ignoring childhood vax-injuries.

^That^ right there is the maturity level of the avg Trudeau/Carney/May/Singh supporter in this forum. Herbie, eyeball, moonie, robo, Beave, crackho, black doggy, MH, hodad, etc are all the same. Just a bunch of petulant children with no regard for the truth or common sense. How do we have enough of these guys in our country to get the Libs elected? Where do they all come from? I've never been in a school, work environment, or sporting event where these m0r0ns were running around in droves, licking all the windows and cramming random objects in their butts, but theoretically they all show up on election day....

It wasn't corrected when I made my post, and there are factors make that higher rate make sense, obesity being the main one. We have our share of obese people in both countries, but the US lead the world in MASSIVE people. It stands to reason that if every single human sat inside their house for a month and never went outside, covid would have stopped in its tracks, but that's not possible. It also stands to reason that preventing people from going to public parks was not necessary or beneficial. Are you admitting that we shouldn't have let people fly in from China before we had covid here, and that we shouldn't have let them wander around through our airports, malls, restaurants, bars, etc? How do you guys come up with the brainwave that allowing people to come here from covid central for months and then walk inside of our buildings was the right thing to do, but then ten days later we needed to prevent all Canadians from going anywhere, including "walking outside in parks"? Covid policies were just stupid beyond all belief. Our gov't couldn't have been more wrong about anything they did. The fact that you don't understand that says a lot about you.

You haven't got a f'ing clue what you're talking about you m0r0n. All of the "massacres" that you're talking about add up to less than 500 people. When you cite the "16,000" figure you're including "people who joined 8 muslim countries that attacked Israel, and tried to carry out another extermination, just like the one in Pakistan 8 months earlier". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_and_massacres_in_Mandatory_Palestine The Deir Yassin massacre that you keep referring to is included in that list, dummy. Approx 105 people. That's 1/10th of Oct 7th. There were much larger slaughters of Jews before and after that. It's kind of normal. It was actually very normal over there. The only reason Deir Yassin is such a big deal to the muslims is because it's the first time that the Jews returned the favour. The total number of Arabs killed, outside of combatants, during the time frame that you cited, was less than 500. Probably an equal number of Jews were killed in that period. They were just killing each other all the time. But look at my post above, at all the massacres in the 1800s. Clearly the Jews just started fighting back in the 1948 period that has you so adoring of the slaughters of Jews. You wanted to start a timeline, dummy. You got it. GFYS. Here's what the 1948 Palestine war means you fool: The war had two main phases, the first being the 1947–1948 civil war, which began on 30 November 1947,[15] a day after the United Nations voted to adopt the Partition Plan for Palestine, which planned for the division of the territory into Jewish and Arab sovereign states. During this period, the British still maintained a declining rule over Palestine and occasionally intervened in the violence.[16][17] Initially on the defensive, the Zionist forces switched to the offensive in April 1948.[18][19] In anticipation of an invasion by Arab armies,[20] they enacted Plan Dalet, an operation aimed at securing territory for the establishment of a Jewish state.[21] Were they wrong to anticipate an attack by a bunch of muslim armies? See for yourself, eyeball: on 14 May 1948, the end of the British Mandate for Palestine at midnight, and the entry of a military coalition of Arab states into the territory of Mandatory Palestine the following morning. Arab Liberation Army Holy War Army Al-Najjada Egypt All-Palestine Protectorate (after 22 Sep 1948) Transjordan Syria Iraq Lebanon Saudi Arabia Yemen 8 months earlier the muslims in Pakistan forced out TEN TIMES THAT MANY SIKHS AND HINDUS. 8 months earlier the muslims in Pakistan KILLED 1,500 TIMES AS MANY SIKHS AND HINDUS AS WERE KILLED IN THE "NABKA". 500 x 1,500= 750,000. 750,000 is a lot more than 500. Still there was no 80-yr grudge against Pakistan. The countries on that list above, who were so enraged about the formation of Israel that they went to war with Israel on day 1 of their existence, found a way to forgive Pakistan almost as quickly as they went to war against Israel: Egypt and Pakistan established embassies in each other countries in 1948. Jordan and Pakistan established embassies in each other countries in 1948. Jordan and Pakistan established embassies in each other countries in 1947. Lebanon and Pakistan established embassies in each other countries in 1948. Saudi Arabia and Pakistan established embassies in each other countries in 1947. Iran didn't formally join that war, but Iran and Pakistan established embassies in each other countries on the day that Pakistan was still busy slaughtering 750,000 Sikhs and Hindus. But, for some reason, an 80-yr grudge against Israel makes sense to you, because of "Deir Yassin". 105 people of Deir Yassin are more important than 750,000 Sikhs and Hindus killed 8 months earlier. Too bad Israel didn't know about the importance of slaughtering those people 8 months earlier, so that it could ave been forgiven by Iran and Egypt instantly. They could have avoided 80 years of trouble. 🤣

You keep saying Deir Yassin as if it's some kind of mass atrocity that was unheard of in the ME. 107 people were killed there. Less than 1/10th of Oct 7th. It was also only 1/5th of the massacre of Jews in 1864, before the word "Zionism" was stirring the blood lust of bigots like you. Here's a list of things that you would have enjoyed in the 1800s: 1830 The Persian Jewish population of Tabriz, Iran is attacked by a mob, resulting in most of the Jewish community either being killed or fleeing.[18][19] 1830 The Jews of Shiraz are forced to convert to Islam.[20][21] 1864 At least 500 Moroccan Jews are massacred in Marrakech and Fez.[37][38] 1866 The Jews of Barforush are forcibly converted to Islam. When they are allowed to revert to Judaism thanks to French and British ambassadors, a Muslim mob kills 18 Jews, burning two of them alive.[39][40] 1869 18 Tunisian Jews are killed in a pogrom and an Arab mob loots Jewish homes and stores, burns synagogues, on Jerba Island.[44][45] 1875 Twenty Jews are killed by a Muslim mob in Demnat, Morocco.[48][49][50] 1892 Mulla Abdullah issues a fatwa to kill all the Jews of Hamadan if they refuse to abide by Jewish restrictions. The local Persian Jews were later ordered to become Muslims or face death.[68] 1897 Synagogues and Jewish homes are pillaged in Oran.[71] 1897 Synagogues are ransacked and Jews are murdered in Tripolitania.[72] But "DEIR YASSIN WAS THE START!!!! EVERYTHING WAS GREAT BEFORE THAT!!!!" 🤣 Oh, and "80 years of subjugation and oppression" lol. You f'ing idjit. The Jews did 600 years of subjugation and oppression under the Ottomans. And by that I mean "across every square inch of the whole f'ing middle east", not just in 0.05% of it (Gaza)... And FYI muslims in Israel aren't oppressed: they are actually more free than they are anywhere else in the ME. Eyeball, you want to condense every bit of guilt for the Palestinian wars into one or two arbitrary start dates - of minor significance - and ignore a thousand years of routine mob attacks, forced conversions, codified religious bigotry, and massacres against the Jews. Where the F do you get your info from? Iran?

Eyeball's brothers don't see it that way: "Oct. 7 is proof that we are almost free. Long live Oct. 7, long live the resistance, long live the intifada, long live every form of resistance."

Eyeball wants to choose his own arbitrary start date to justify the murders of 1,200 people. Nearly 3x as many people as were killed on Oct 7th as during "the nabka", but eyeball still gives it two thumbs up. Don't forget to say "Happy child-burning day!!!" to eyeball every Oct 7th.

The value of keeping the plant was $220M. There's no similar value in just giving 1,000 people $220,000. How much of that would have been spent on foreign vacations?

Put yourself in their shoes: they have no relationship with the truth anyways, we've seen it in every other thread here they gave their friends and family the same advice they gave here, no doubt exerting as much influence as they could to get their own kids and grandkids jabbed, and they may have even been harmed by following that terrible advice. Do they really want to admit to harming their own family members? Or giving their family members the wrong advice, which could have cost them their lives when they weren't even at risk? Why wouldn't they just keep on lying? What do eyeball and ex-flyer stand to gain from ever telling the truth? CBC will never admit to anything, and until they do, all the cultists can just keep telling the same old lies. The official version of the story will never change: Fauci was awesome and completely trustworthy, Trudeau was brilliant, martial law was necessary, the unvaxed were all racists and misogynists, Trump failed, the jabs worked as advertised, horse-dewormer was a cruel joke that was played on right-wing conspiracy theorists, only the unvaxed died in 2022, the jabs ended the pandemic, everyone needs boosters, everyone should get the flu jabs, doctors who spoke out against the propaganda are lucky to not be in jail. We're dealing with cultists and a-holes. These people are a huge waste of oxygen.

There are people here who spend hours a day watching CBC's "news" programming or listening to it on the radio. For them to question the CBC's authenticity or motives is almost impossible. It's like getting a devout cultist to admit that something their divine leader does is immoral. Eyeball just flat out didn't believe me when I told him that "vaccinated" people had died "of covid", and that there were as many people dying in 2022 as had died in either of the previous years. I went to great lengths to show him, using Health Canada's own data, but he was completely unmoved.

There's no excuse for weighing in on the matter with that level of understanding either.