WestCanMan

The problem that you're running into here is that your simplistic understanding of these events leads to your poor understanding of the application of all the various laws concerned. Both were allowed to carry the guns that were in their possession, true. Legal Carry: Kyle's carry didn't require any permits that he didn't have in his possession Pretti's carry did require permits that he didn't have in his possession ICE obviously had the legal right to carry That's neither here nor there though, from Pretti's POV, because that would never have been a factor until after his arrest. It was a central factor in Kyle's situation though. He had every right to have that gun with him at that point in time. Carrying during the commission of a crime: Kyle was not committing any crimes while he was in possession of his gun. Pretti attacked law enforcement officials while carrying his gun. ICE obviously weren't committing any crimes Self Defence: Kyle was defending himself from people who were clearly attacking him, with weapons, including a handgun Pretti was not defending anyone, he was attacking police officers who were executing a legal arrest It has yet to be determined if officers had cause to legitimately/reasonably feel a threat to life and limb at the moment the officer decided to start shooting. That's not to be confused with the moment the first shot was fired, which is half a second later. There's a brief period of time between "need to shoot" and "don't need to shoot anymore"... 'pumping the brakes' is a separate thought process which doesn't always happen faster than the shots start being fired. This is clearly another situation where the dishonest/inflammatory/seditious statements from Walz, Frey and other DNC/MSM cult leaders have goaded their lemmings into rioting, and the poor little buggers are getting themselves into situations where they make officers fear for their lives, while they don't fully comprehend the consequences of making that type of mistake, just the same way you don't fully comprehend the consequences of making that type of mistake. FYI if you make LEO's fear for their life, they can use lethal force to stay alive. Did you see the video of Good's dummy wife, right after she was shot, shrieking "You guys have real bullets????". That's what we are dealing with: people who have no idea whatsoever how serious the threat is from a LEO POV, and how dangerous this is for them. More ICE agents have been killed than Good/Pretti types, just FYI.

I can write an email to anyone and say that CrakHo hates anything. I can even say that CrakHo is planning to kill someone. If I send that email to someone, does that become proof that you are plotting a murder? The only thing we have learned from that email is: Nothing. It's not proof that Trump was going to meet Epstein, it's not proof that Trump shared info about that preference. It's a conversation that Trump wasn't a party to, period. Also, we already know that the FBI was found guilty of altering one email and presenting it as evidence to the FISA court, so the whole notion of "emails from 13 years ago as evidence of anything" is really dead.

Is the title of this thread proof that leftists are fascist m0r0ns?

@blackbird: You gotta remember when you're reading articles of this nature, that the people writing them are entirely dishonest, and they are gonna lie about everything they can to paint a false narrative that will pull at your heartstrings. Imagine that you're a cop, and you have to arrest a man who has a 5 yr old with him because his asylum claim was denied, and you're right in front of his house. The man flees, abandoning his son in a running car... what do you do? take the 5 yr old into custody let him go knock on the door to see if his mommy's home You chose #2, blackbird? Really? You're clearly a kid-hatin' Nazi. Why did you let the 5 yr old knock on the front door of his house when you could have just dragged him away in your cop car? Everybody, listen up: BLACKBIRD HATES KIDS!!!!! Do you see the brutally twisted logic in your own argument, blackbird? You just let someone convince you that "letting a 5 yr old knock on the door of his own house after his father abandoned him" was worse than "taking a 5 yr old into custody". Go shake your head.

Dude, it sounds like a drooling leftard hit the crack pipe too hard for 6 months straight and then babbled all of that out in a fever dream. And what makes you think that the Biden administration kept a lid on that for a whole year of campaigning and then suddenly released it now?

Joe Biden was the president ffs, dummy, and you pretended that he was fit for that, so stfu. Oh, and then you pretended that Kamala Harris was capable of running the country, so no one gives a shit what you think about the capabilities of Bondi and Patel. Go bully your kids or something if you want someone to believe you, because adults don't listen to you.

Fixed it for ya. If Trump was like the Dems, then someone would leave the DOJ to go to a lower court and act as prosecutor, and the judge would be a regular FB clown who was constantly posting about how much he hates the Dems.

"The credibility of FBI investigations can never be questioned. No level of evidence can ever prove FBI malfeasance or corruption." I'm just quoting you, Beave, so take that for what it's worth.

Chat GPT could provide us with all that "satellite data", pulled from trump's own ass, and I hope everyone knows that. Unfortunately, due to the way the human brain works, both with the way our limbic system records indelible memories and the effectiveness of our confirmation bias mechanisms at defending and preserving our original opinions, people's opinions are still largely based on the initial media reports that they liked. the ayatollah knows where the targets are that the us will be hitting. For all we know, he already has massive bombs nearby that will be triggered by explosions at those sites. I will be shocked if hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians aren't killed by Iranian bombs [if America attacks], resulting in a massive propaganda war about "who killed them". Just be prepared for a wave of propaganda unlike anything that you have ever seen before. This is the friction point between ideological tectonic plates of biblical proportions. This isn't going down without a shitstorm of lies and deception. Book it. Al Jazeera and Fox will be watching two entirely different wars.

Does the DOJ change between parties? Who decides: what the FBI does/doesn't investigate? what agents do the investigating? how they frame the investigations? what they say about the validity and amount of evidence in their possession? what the official FBI narratives are? The elected officials are in charge. Every time you see incontrovertible evidence of rampant FBI lies and crimes you shrug it off. An actual judge in a court of law said that the FBI lied multiple times and even fabricated evidence during the collusion witch hunt. An actual judge in a court of law said that the FBI planned Whitmer's kidnapping themselves, that the FBI's own informants/agent provocateurs outnumbered the accused, and then that judge accepted an entrapment defence which is extremely rare in the US, and maybe unprecedented against the FBI. Subsequent trials of the FBI's own kidnapping plot were not allowed to reference the entrapment cases. There's no doubt whatsoever that the "51 ex-intelligence operatives" lied about the laptop, and the FBI never set the record straight about that. They let that lie grow wings until the election was over, while the NYPost was kicked off of FB and Twitter for telling the truth, and we were all called conspiracy theorists for talking about it. What was ever said or done about all of those lies and omissions? There's no doubt now that the FBI lied about the presence of their own agent provocateurs in the J6th crowd. It wasn't just a few, they numbered in the dozens. There's no doubt that the FBI conducted lengthy investigations to find people guilty of sedition while they simultaneously ignored evidence Ray Epps committing textbook sedition, on video, multiple times. Epps was never charged with sedition. This isn't "something that's absorbed by people", Michael. This is just something that your own confirmation bias prevents you from considering, despite all of the evidence that is currently verified. The FBI is just like the alt-left MSM. They both get the easy, non-political stories right, and they use that success as a tool to polish their own reputations. And then they both lie like murderous psychopaths whenever they want to. Buddy, FYI I didn't want to come to the conclusion that the CBC is just as bad as Xinhua. I'd love to think that our national news network has more credibility than that of a communist regime that murdered millions of their own people. That being said, did the Chinese gov't even murder any of their own people? How the hell would I know? I wasn't there, and I got my stories from the F'n CBC. Maybe the Chinese gov't is awesome, and cute and cuddly. The FACT is that the history of the communist Chinese gov't lies somewhere between the version that we hear over here, and the official Xinhua version. That's a fact, Michael. We are being lied to, the Chinese people are being lied to, and almost no one on earth even knows the truth anymore, because the lies are so pervasive. That's how history works: the winner write the history.

The left-wing MSM wants those numbers to come out slowly. This is like when covid came... "COVID DEATHS!!!" were an instant diagnosis, requiring no proof at all, and 'vax-induced deaths' took years to prove. Healthy people could literally keel over dead within 30 seconds of taking the jab and that "cause of death" somehow took years to determine, at which point the MSM continued to ignore them. The MSM will be the judge, jury and executioner when it comes to determining cause of death in Iran as well. "Killed by the Iranian gov't" is a diagnosis that will takes weeks or months to determine, and will always reflect the lowest of all possible estimates "Killed by Americans" will be the default diagnosis for anyone who dies after the US conducts their first strike, and exaggerations will be highly encouraged. Almost everyone killed will be classified as 'an innocent woman or child', and even 17 yr-olds killed while carrying scalps will still be classified as "dead children". We saw it in Gaza, and it's the exact same people who will be reporting on Iran. Undoubtedly a lot of people who blindly sided with Gaza, and adored all of the lies and propaganda from Al Jazeera, CNN and CBC, will be on the side of the Iranian people now, and they will start to understand how it feels to be gaslighted and lied to by the exact same MSM that they helped prop up over the past ten years.

That's not a poor reply, but TBH, our reputation went down from close to 9.7/10 to "comparable to Iran" in the pat ten years. We had fascism here and used it to hurt all of our own younger generations, our PM was accusing us of genocide against children in rez schools and against Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women, and using the hijab hoax to denigrate Canadians, the PM and our MSM called our Freedom Convoy and all the unvaxed "racists and misogynists" while protecting terrorists here... If the leader of a country says "My people are evil", who's to argue? How can the Iranian gov't and our own PM agree on Canadians being evil? Carney and Trudeau can literally go F themselves. There's no fate to ill to befall them IMO. I relish the day they meet their maker.

That's no different at all, actually. There's always one side asking the US for help - ALWAYS, and it's always the poor huddled masses - but down the road those requests for help are stripped from the historical record, and ME'ers and their cultists over here just shriek "AMERICA IS BAD cuz of these 20 attacks. Nay, GENOCIDES!!!" That's my fear. "A madman will burn his kingdom to ground to rule over the ashes." I think that the Ayatollah's capacity for evil could easily eclipse the people's will for freedom and decency. Mohamed's superpower was attracting all of the most evil people to him, and using them to control the masses. He offered people slaves and multiple wives as payment for slaughter and pillaging, and people were afraid to stand up to his evil army because they knew that losing meant that their wives and children would become sex slaves. And that's what I was talking about when I said that the ayatollah will probably bomb civilians to blame it on Trump. As soon as the first bomb goes off, I guarantee that the ayatollah will start bombing his civilians to blame America. Dead/dying kids are a propaganda goldmine for terrorists, and leftists over here will jump on the chance to blame Trump. I LOVE it. My heart goes out to them, and if I was religious I would pray for them. I'm 100% in favour of helping them. Trump knows what he's up against, and that's not an army of men, it's a propaganda wave driven by rabid psychopaths with piles of money. He can't do a prolonged attack, giving Iran days to bomb their civilians and blame it all on the US. His attack has to be quick, decisive, and extremely narrow in scope. Think: one wave of thousands of strikes with small blast radii lasting 2 hrs, not 20 days of strikes. 20 days is a lot of time for Khamenei to slaughter millions of people and blame America for it all. It's a lot of time to build momentum behind his hate campaign. Sad as it is, this attack from Trump couldn't happen after only 500 people were dead in a couple of days. That's nothing in the grand scheme of things. Slaughters of 500 people are routine in the ME. What's happening in Iran right now, with the tens of thousands of deaths, is "building global consensus, and resolve". The people of Iran need that resolve, Americans need that resolve, and the rest of the world cannot be in doubt about how serious the need for support actually is. Twenty years from now people can't be saying: "America did a regime-change level of bombing after 500 people were killed!!!!!" In order for America to attack, Khamenei's murder rampage needs to reach the level of "biblical proportions". I'm sorry, I know that those are your people, but the risk of escalation is much greater if: the level of Khamenei's carnage is too low Khamenei has time to slaughter millions of his own people and blame Trump Trump's attacks aren't absolutely perfect. There has never been a military strike in the whole history of the world that requires: such a massive scope, over such a massive area with so many critical targets in such close proximity to so many millions of civilians in such a compressed timeline, with such a real risk of false-flag attacks by the enemy against millions of their own people, occurring in front of such a well-coordinated, global propaganda army, which has their hooks into so many millions of fanatical followers all over the world The chances of this incursion leading to a WW are very real. Trump and his forces need to not only execute a massive and decisive attack with ultimate precision, they need to do it without giving the ayatollah a chance to kill millions of his own people and blame America. I promise you this, Citizen: if the ayatollah gets the chance to kill ten million of his own people and blame it on Trump, he will do it without hesitation, and never shed a tear. We're about to see a propaganda war that makes every news event in the history of the world look like a local news soundbite.

Because the cheaters won, Michael. What would be the point of cheating if they were just gonna fess up? Not only that, they got to slander Trump and J6ers for years based on those election results. Did you think that the liars and cheaters in the FBI, who were embarrassed and caught lying and committing crimes multiple times, were gonna tell the truth, or do any work to help Republicans, when they didn't have to? The FBI lied and cheated like psychopaths for years to stop Trump, and you thought that they were suddenly gonna switch to the side of democracy and law & order? The FBI came up with the Whitmer kidnapping plot, then went full entrapment mode and used that all as an October surprise. Then they had their lies/deceit/stifle-the-truth campaign regarding the laptop before that election. That was all following their Russian collusion lies and crimes. Actual crimes. Then came all the lies from the FBI about the agent provocateurs they had embedded in the crowds... The guys like Ray Epps who were BLATANTLY COMMITTING TEXTBOOK SEDITION but were never charged for it? The feds were throwing people in jail for nothing, and leaving them there for months at a time. The Dems, FBI and CNN were accusing everyone within a country mile of the capitol of committing sedition, but not even one of them said it about THE GUY WHO WAS OPENLY COMMITTING SEDITION. How is it possible that among ALL the weasels on ALL the bogus news channels in NA who were calling everyone a 'seditionist', and all the hyperbolic leftard politicians who were using their shiny new word "sedition" to describe everything from from kittens and breakfast cereals to protesters, none of them thought to call the one person who was actually caught committing sedition on video, multiple times, a "seditionist"? So after all of the FBI's lies and deceit to influence the election against Trump during Russian collusion, the Whitmer entrapment scheme, the laptop scandal, and their J6th lies & no-trial prison sentences scandal, you thought that they were going to undo all of their own hard work to influence the election, by doing hard work to tell the truth? Do you also believe that OJ was really trying to find Nicole's murder? Do you think it's common for murderers to o to great lengths to uncover evidence of their own murders for police, when they don't have to? Your problem is that, after all this time, and a multitude of known lies and crimes by the FBI (even a judge said that), you refuse to believe that the FBI was lying and committing crimes. We both know that you won't challenge me on a single one of these facts, Michael, because you know that I have court-documented proof of all of it and I will blow you out of the water. You will respond with an ad hominem attack, maybe cite some CNN propaganda, appeal to the unfathomable, and engage in a bit of pettifogging. Just remember, we all had to wait years for the Russian collusion witch hunt to reach its inevitable conclusion (hahaha @BeaverFever you cultist shmuck), you can wait to see what the criminals at the FBI come up with regarding the possibility of Fullton County election cheating. Oh, and one more thing: it's the FBI making this accusation now, and by your own standards, you don't consider any FBI allegations slanderous, regardless how serious and how devoid of evidence their claims are.

That's the left4rd opinio in a nutshell, so thanks for reminding us how you guys feel about this, but for your information: uncovering fraud and crime isn't "re-writing history", it's "correcting the historical record" and possibly bringing criminals to justice. Is your opinion that "If people committed a crime and got away with it, we should just ignore it now and move on, because I like the status quo"? Don't you think that election integrity is more important than protecting criminals?

Just because Carney got his feelings hurt by Trump doesn't mean that he can say anything that he wants about Trump and "it's not slander". Are you kidding right now? Slandering Trump has been a daily occurrence from our MSM and our PM's going back to the day that Trump started running for his first term. If you think that "governor Carney" was the start of it you're sadly mistaken. We deserve everything that we've already gotten and more. If it was just the US that didn't like us, that would be one thing, but our relationship with India went south before our relationship with the US did. Canada's international reputation has been in a nose dive for over a decade now. Remember when Iran reiterated Trudeau's accusation that Canada committed genocide against the 1st nations people? Yeah, that's where our reputation is right now. I couldn't care less if western Canada joins the US or separates, but we need to leave the idea of what was Canada in the dust. This is a shithole country now.

TBH, that guy is an outlier for the Dems, and not a really accurate example. The average Dem is a liar and a cultist m0r0n, and that wasn't really evident in the clip you showed.

Gimme a break. You're a basic ret4rd who has absolutely no clue what you're talking about right now. Someone posted their opinion and it tickled your confirmation bias so now you're here preaching like a nutjob on a street corner. You remind me of robo when he quotes Dr Bimbo. "Duuuuuh, look at her boobies 🤤. She must be a reel dokter!"

Stop lying, robo. People weren't getting charged for going into abortion clinics - they were arrested for being in the proximity of abortion clinics. The guy who was arrested at home, in front of his wife and kids, with 17 AR's pointed at him, was outside of a clinic, "standing too close to it".

It depends on the context, I guess. If you're a leftard, and you're talking about 8 yr olds deciding on life-altering gender-transition procedures, then 8 yr olds are considered adults. The same leftards, when talking about 19 yr olds acquiring student loan debt, consider 19 yr olds to be minors.

No one said that they were gonna jump on B's in the stirrups. FYI it's possible to go into a clinic without going right into the examining room.

The Canadian Senate actually did have to come together to end fascism during covid. This topic is no joke.

This one's gonna last more than 4 hours.

And by "away from him", you actually mean "into him", because the net result of her steering and acceleration was to drove into him. Hard. The car... hit... the officer. Did she miss him? No. If... dog... rabbit. She almost steered away from him before she gunned it, but she didn't steer away from him, so she hit him. Did the Titanic steer away from the iceberg or did it almost steer away from the iceberg? Did Tiger steer away from that tree, or almost...? Did Trudeau almost steer his hand away from the reporter's privates, because he thought that she mighta had an important job? Did Trump steer his hand away from Bergdorf Ho's cooter, and then hit some old fish? We could go on and on, but at the end of the day, we know what path that vehicle took, and where the officer was standing.

I'm not concerned about that guy's death. He broke serious federal laws, the FBI conducted a lawful and necessary arrest, dummy escalated the arrest to a level where lethal force was a reasonable response. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. I'm actually glad that the guy was stopped. I don't want conservatives out acting like left4rd cultists.