WestCanMan

That's because it's fact-based, and damaging to false narratives that you hold dear. I personally decry the decline of our culture into decadence, but I don't beat women up or send them to jail when I don't like their clothes. Not only that, our culture still protects them, instead of beating them up or putting them in jail. No need. I'm not offended. You're failing to acknowledge the truth: you said that "there were seeds for a deeper discussion which we wouldn't be having" because you know that defence of islam as a decent culture is impossible. They're shit people, deep down where it really counts. Again, you refuse to acknowledge things that go against the false narratives of leftist leaders. Pakistan killed almost a million people in 1947, by burning, hanging, clubbing, and chopping, and the whole muslim world accepted them with open arms later that day. Less than 500 muslims were killed a year later in Palestine, and instead of forgiving those 500 deaths that same day, like they did for Pakistan (twice now) they still want a genocide against 10M people in retaliation, 80 years later. Oh, and their prophet was also a pedophile who committed genocide. They're not good people, Mike. Not at all. You know that, but you're just too scared to say it. Of course you're on a soapbox when you should be apologizing or at least shutting your lying, weasel mouth, you f'ing degenerate wimp.

If we believe that protecting women and children is virtuous then our culture is better than islam by light years. People who lie and gaslight to deceive Canadians about the evil nature of islam do not protect women and children, and therefor lack virtue.

Deny a genocide? Buddy, that's your superpower. Palestine, less than 500 people shot by soldiers in 1948. Pakistan, more than 500,000 people hung, burned to death, chopped to death, and shot in 1947. Which one was a genocide you worthless piece of shit?

There's a checklist that you should always go through whenever you hear someone make an accusation against another person, regardless of the political affiliation. Your starting point should always be "There's this side of the story, and that side of the story, and the truth lies somewhere in between." From there you need to think about the amount of evidence presented and the motive. Money is a strong motivator here. 100%. There has never been a better time for women to shake down powerful men in the last 100 years than right now.

Can the FBI even say for certain what girls were or weren't there? If so, can they say for certain when girls were there, or for how long? Do they know for certain what men were there and who wasn't? Is it certain that everyone who ever visited the island was there to have sex with prostitutes, and/or minors? It's likely that many didn't. I'm all for justice for the victims, but there has never been a better opportunity for women to scam rich men than this Epstein thing. I once saw a show about two sisters, gypsies, who pulled off a huge scam against a Disney (?) hotel in Vegas... One sister came up with a plan to get "raped" by her own boyfriend... He would go out of their room in a costume, and pretend to have lost his room key, and get a sec guard or maid to let him into the room, where he would then "rape" his gf. The sister who came up with the plan got her sister to be the actual victim, and they were gonna split the money 50/50. The guy beat her up, even burned her with a cigarette a few times, and then left. Disney settled out of court for millions. The only reason they got caught is that the sister who planned it didn't get her share, so she ratted her sister out. Point being: if women would go to that extent to scam men for money, what are the chances that there aren't gonna be some more "gypsies" try to use this Epstein island thing as a cash cow? How many people can prove that they didn't go to Epstein's island 20 years ago? How many men would just pay a bribe rather than get their name in the press?

Leftists shot themselves in the foot when they trotted out E Jean Carroll, Christina Blasy-Ford and Lisa Swetnick as credible witnesses. Carroll was just a slut who got what she seemed to have wanted, Ford was a serial liar, and Swetnick told the only story about "rape" that ever made me laugh.... "I went to ten gang-rape parties" 😂 That B is into some freaky shiznit if she went to 2 of them and then kept on going again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again... I mean, why did she stop? Did she manage to find some parties where they were torturing and killing women? Now there are alleged "sister survivors" talking about getting together and compiling their own lists... To me that sounded a lot like "come find us, and if the money is right, we will accuse whoever you want." There aren't a lot of people who could come up with an alibi for "Where were you between June 3rd and June 28th, 2005?" Due to modern banking records, a lot of people might be able to say where they were a year ago at that time, but not in 2005. If those women named you, could you prove that you weren't there? Do you get your passport stamped if Epstein flies you to his private island?

I never talked about "how our values dominate the world" because that's neither here nor there. We are in control of how WE behave, just like you are in control of how YOU behave. That's it. And it's our culture that is responsible for that. Our civilization grew to be tolerant and protective of women and children because of our Cristian heritage. Admit it, Michael. Learn it: "Our civilization remains tolerant to this day because of our Christian heritage." Sure, we have been able to defend our culture to this point, from the outside, because our way of life dwarfs theirs in terms of maximizing human potential -> thereby increasing our military capabilities by leaps and bounds over cavemen, but it's not yet certain if our culture can survive islam's level evil from within. islam has a superpower, MH, and it's not to be taken lightly: islam is the best tool ever invented for controlling the most evil people in society. That's what mohammed did, and that's what powerful muslims still do today... They use the 10% of the most evil people in society to cow everyone else. It works in Iran, it works in Afghanistan, it works in Yemen, it works in Qatar, it works in most places. FYI no one loved the Taliban. The civilians just feared them, for very good reason. The Taliban will torture and kill women and children to get their way, and they will never apologize for that because they consider it their religious right/duty. We lock our most evil people up, MH, we don't use them as weapons to control our civilian population. People who prey on the weak here are punished, they don't get slaves and 2nd, 3rd and 4th wives. We don't train our soldiers to torture and kill women and children. I was in the military myself and never got that kind of training: we train to fight against other men. Rather, to fight against professional soldiers, and not laymen. The whole "religion of peace" thing is absolute bullshit, Michael. Saying that is like using the "shoot for the stars, reach the moon" tactic. It challenges the naysayer to knock islam down from the top rank instead of acknowledges islam's true starting point, which is right beside Naziism, and that's not an exaggeration at all. If you knew the history of islam you would know that it runs a parallel course to Naziism. islam IS the religion of intolerance, genocide, misogyny, bigotry, etc. Just look at Pakistan: they've committed two genocides IN THE MILLIONS since WWII and they've always been widely respected and loved by the rest of the islamic world. Right on the very day they committed their first genocide they were establishing full diplomatic relations with every country in the ME. And FYI their creation was "the real Nabka". What happened in Palestine was a mini-nabka. More like a mini-mini-mini-mini-nabka by comparison.

Expelling people who meddle in our affairs in Canada would include expelling muslims who preach quotes from the Hadiths about genocide against Jews. Are you sure that you want to do that? We would also have to expel muslims who committed terrorist attacks against Canada, because - by definition - terrorist attacks are political in nature. Do you really want to start deporting terrorists after the Liberals worked so hard to get them all here?

Not sure why down-arrow boy targeted your posts there. There was nothing controversial or questionable there...

I would argue that the gradual shifting away from religious rule has caused prosperity. Christian values allowed for that to happen. Most people in North America don't even know what apostasy means, because it's a Christianity-based society, so apostasy is not a big deal here (unless you're a muslim). muslims here still get killed for committing apostasy, but non-muslims don't get killed for "committing apostasy" anywhere.

I don't consider winning wars as "growth". Our civilization has grown "into what it is today". Meaning it has grown in terms of "being upwardly mobile, and positive, for all citizens", not outwardly growing. When you think of our civilization do you think of us as "overlords to Africa and Asia"? 😂 I don't think of us as overlords there at all. IMO, our civilization ends at the coastline. European civilization is like ours, even "gave rise to ours", but Japan has their own civilization. As does China. The Koreas. S Africa. Etc.

Conquering other nations has nothing to do with this topic, Michael. What makes you think I was talking about that? I'm just talking about our inclusive society, here at home. FYI we don't have the codified religious bigotry of islamic shithole countries here, do we, Michael? Women don't get beaten or raped or jailed for not wearing hijabs here. Gays don't get thrown off of buildings and then stoned to death. Girls can go to school and get jobs. Jews and muslims can practice their religion here without fear, just like everyone else. Women here -> hijab or no hijab -> no beatings or rapes, ever Women in muslim countries -> hijab or no hijab -> beatings or rapes are a certainty if women don't wear a hijab We're nothing like the shithole bigots, Michael. Maybe you are, conservatives aren't. And FWIW, regarding your point which was off-topic, the reason that we have science here that's advanced well beyond that of the shithole countries is we have a society that promotes science and commerce, not one that inflicts ideology at the cost of all else.

Canada and the US were founded by Christians. Europe is Christian. It's from Christianity that our civilizations were able to grow into the societies we have today. Societies founded in islam are still rooted in stone-age morality. Gays are murdered, pedophilia is legal, women are beaten like dogs, genocides against infidels are glorious, etc. Hitler, Stalin mohamed. Same. Jesus, Buddha. Same.

You think that leftards would have stopped using the word "conspiracy" by now. Your hair, eyebrows and eyelashes are gone, but you're still playing with gas.

1) Mamdani has attended Kiswani's pro-genocide protests, and stood by her there 2) Kiswani's hate-group was a big supporter of Mamdani's campaign 3) But Kiswani is not formally a member of the Mamdani "gov't", per se. At best, they are friends with a common goal against Israel. If she's an advisor, it's in an unofficial capacity.

FYI in the catholic church that's not legal, just like it's not legal in Alabama, Ottawa or Paris, but it still happens there too. It's legal in islam. mohamed did it. Do you understand the difference between "legal" and "illegal"? In one culture, pedophiles are the best people.

Careful denouncing pedophilia, John. mohamed married a girl that was several years shy of her first period, and by his own sharia laws, it's legal for men to have sexual relations with girls that young. Are you saying that there's something wrong with mohamed? Or islam?

Where are you gonna get your genocide-boner if you stop reading propaganda?

Wow. You're 65 and you're still getting schooled like an 8-yr-old every time you open your mouth. You shoulda said that you were 12, so that you at least had an excuse for your lack of historical knowledge and your bigotry.

Get your head out of your ass you worthless cultist dipshit. Who's taking in Gazans, Gaetan? Who? You tell me who... I'll tell you who did take in some Palestinians... Jordan, for 1. Then the Palestinians tried to overthrow the gov't that took them in, so there was a civil war, and the Jordanian gov't bulldozed all their houses and kicked them the F out. So no one wants Gazans, Gaetan. The only person who has a use for them is the Ayatollah. He admires them for their hatred and bigotry, and he uses them to die, in order to foment hatred against the Jews. And the Gazans are such f'ed up bigots that they are happy to watch thousands of their own children die, just so that maybe one day they can see a genocide. And you're their biggest admirer. To you, the thought of a genocide is just awesome. How many Americans were killed by ICE, Gaetan? 2. You're pissy with ICE for killing two Americans, but you're OK with the Ayatollah killing 50,000 to 100,000 Iranians because, what? Americans lives are worth that much more to you than the lives of Iranians? Oh, snap. How can you make that narrative work inside your bigoted little mind, huh? How is it that the lives of the common people of Iran are worthless to you? How much of a f'ing bigot are you? You need to stop pretending to be "Gaetan the concerned humanitarian" because your cover is blown a million miles wide, dummy. The fact that you can cheer on Hamas terrorist attacks and the deaths of 100,000 Iranians can't be reconciled with "good guy". You're a violent religious big without an ounce of humanity in your entire body. You have the soul of a maggot.

I've seen it reported that there were 570,000 people marching in Toronto. As far as I know, even if it was just 350,000, that's one of the largest gatherings ever in Canada for something like that. There may have been bigger crowds than that here when WWII ended or something like that, but not to celebrate a sports championship, or for a protest, or anything else.

1) Toronto's "federally protected" GDP is bigger than Alberta's "federally hamstrung" GDP. 2) GDP is a largely useless stat, which includes things like haircuts, fingernail painting, and tree-pruning services which don't do a damned thing for our overall economy. Exporting goods to other countries is what provides value to our currency internationally, allowing us to import cars, TV's, etc. And when you talk about our export economy, it is dominated by the western provinces. Oil and gas, coal, agricultural products (including potash, grains, meat and vegetables), minerals, uranium, etc account for the majority of our exports. When Torontonians find a way to export haircuts to China, let me know.

What exactly are you saying? Dude, it's a war crime to intentionally put soldiers into groups of civilians, and then use them as meat shields. iI's a war crime to store munitions under civilian homes and businesses. It's a war crime to wage war without uniforms. It's a war crime to fire weapons and missiles from hospitals and schools. It's a war crime to use ambulances and school buses as military transports. Hamas didn't just use civilians as meat shields, Hamas used civilians as meat shields "in order to create civilian deaths, which they could use to foment hatred". Hamas wanted their own civilians to die - that was a key part of their plan. Just imagine that while you were out committing glorious terrorist attacks for Hamas, killing Jewish children and sharing their murders on social media, your Hamas brothers were willfully putting your mom, your wife, and your children in harm's way, hoping that they would all be killed, so that they could use your dead family as props in their propaganda war. Wanna know the worst part? You're so brainwashed that you would still blame Israel for the deaths of your family members, even though you knew that it was your own side's plan that whole time.

In two terms as president, Barack Obama let Jeffrey Epstein continue to pimp out children. Did you catch that? In two terms as president, Barack Obama let Jeffrey Epstein continue to pimp out children, while he instead directed the FBI to carry out a witch hunt against Trump. Can you acknowledge that: "in two terms as president, Barack Obama let Jeffrey Epstein continue to pimp out children"? What did Obama do about Epstein, aside from "allow him to continue to pimp out children"? One more thing: Trump could have easily lied about Epstein in 2006, just like Carney lies, just like all of Hilary's accomplices lied for her, just like AG Lynch and Bill lied about their secret conversation, just like Fauci lied about the origin of the virus and the safety and efficacy of the pseudovaxes, etc. What exact comment did Trump make about Epstein in 2019? You never actually quoted Trump, you just supplied your own bit of out-of-context paraphrasing, which was no doubt entirely deceitful.

That study ignores the millions of texts and phone calls and leaflets from the Israelis, warning civilians that Hamas targets near them were about to be destroyed. The terrorist/civilian death rate was astronomically high in Gaza compared to any other war of equal devastation, because the Israelis were so good at minimizing civilian casualties. And remember, the Israelis managed to keep civlian casualties down while muslim nations all around Gaza refused to allow any Gazans to flee that war zone. Imagine that... All around Gaza, all those muslim countries just said "Stay in that war zone and die - we need your deaths to help foment more hatred." Even Hamas estimated that roughly 70% of the dead were members of Hamas, because that's the percentage of dead that they had to give hero pensions out for. That's their own estimate of the number of deaths, and their own stated number of hero pensions given to active members.