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I actually drink Bud Light now. I switched to light beers recently. Started drinking Coors light. Because of the kafuffle I thought I'd try Bud. Ordered it in a pub, and gave my wife a wink and a nod as I took the first sip. Actually tastes pretty goof. Good, I mean.

Yes well I only know about 200 people. If I know 4 out of 200, this is 2% of the people I know. Does it represent the whole? Well possibly. I'm not special. 'New evidence confirms COVID-19 vaccines are overwhelmingly safe' Apparently Matthew Perry would disagree...

King Anti-Midas. Everything he touches turns to shee-it...

I went back to look but it's not much, really. Trudeau is a symptom of weakness in democracy, and demonstrates that people can be led into voting for anything. We've seen people vote for their own undoing a few times now. There are psychological techniques that are known to work, especially when the government has control over the media. .... Well this is about Covid vaccine. It's not what the government is telling you, it's what they're not telling you. And what they are not saying is, you have to get the shot. They're not saying you have to get your covid vaccine pass updated. They're not forcing federal workers to keep their shots up to date(as far as I know) and not enforcing masking in public spaces, or closing facilities and imposing curfews. All things they did in 2021. And yet Covid is still as deadly, and vaccinesjust about as ineffective, in that you need to be continually boosted to get any supposed benefit from it. All they do now is give advice. I think that's fine. I question why they've made such an about-face from not so long ago when the PM called unvaccinated Canadians misogynists and racists who are anti-science.

Says you. Other experts differ, and so do I. For a young healthy person the risk factors drop to such low numbers, the benefit is debatable and the person need not be vaccinated per government bureaucrat orders. Stay out of my health care decision, government man. I defer to family physicians and individualized care, not carte-blank one size fits all chowderhead decision making. Out of that will come the risk that it harms the person who didn't need it. Albeit a low number statistically, when applied to thousands some will be harmed. So no, not "a problem for everyone". Statistically it killed in large numbers those who were on their deathbed in LTC homes, as these respiratory viruses so often do. Yet the government actually did not do enough to protect this demographic. They used the deaths numbers to justify their position on mandates though. It's unconscionable.

I bent the argument away from the question, are the mrna vaccines good yes/no, to "how can we ordinary citizens even know, given the media discourse and poor leadership." Pick yer poison.

1. Yes you fell for the dunderhead comment. Low hanging fruit, for low-brows to find entertaining. In general I like to post with an important (to me) topic related point that is usually given by inference. You have to figure it out a little. Then I add a joking remark to capture the attention of those who love ridicule, so they can enjoy that. Something for everyone. But the poster who discerns what I mean will pick up on the important part. Trolls will have fun with the other part. 2. I allude to the larger more serious issue that faith in our democratic / medical/ scientific institutions is waning, leading to even bigger problems down the road. I blame this squarely on government and the excessive politicization of every issue, which parties are doing for their own benefit. This is the rotthat must be fought against. Foolish, naive leadership and Trudeau is at the helm. My comments echo the sentiment of others on here lately, like this-

Because you focused on me, not the content I wanted to talk about which is the incoherent and obviously flawed government messaging that created the present level of distrust. Distrust over the covid vaccine, I should add. I'm not talking about going to the grocery store. But you, as ususl, seek to focus on the poster as singular in their view and somehow connect it to everything else. You see the problem there? Hope so. It's a nasty liberal trait you need to rid yourself of, if you really want to join the conservative club. But nah. You won't. Because you're too old now and set in your ways. You are what you are at this point.

Thank you, Papa Hardener. Do your feet even touch the ground when you walk? Just wondering.

I know lots of people who had issues, menstrual and one lady who had a prolonged serious illness that her doctor attributed to a vaccine reaction. The statistical odds are too high for it to be an anomaly that I know a few people. I know you dunderheads may fire back that it's anecdotal, but so what. I trust my experiences more that these official reports. Thanks to government bungling in the rollout, and hiding information, the general public is mistrustful of these vaccines. If indeed they are safe, then it's a major failure of the government and so-called top health doctors. Their clown-show is what goofed it up. Data like this: Right now a few people in my social circle have Covid. I am not getting the shot, same as I do not get flu shots. I prefer to get small exposures to Covid and the flu, so that I become naturally immune. You people can hide under a rock.

No but you could be mistaken, as you've been wrong on so many other counts.

Perhaps he was on some interesting pharmaceuticals. Most Americans are whacked out on some kind of pills or another.

Yeah, Maine has a Democrat governor I see. How's that workin out?

Right. Meanwhile in Sault St. Marie we had 5 people killed by violence, but not a peep from these people. Because was a domestic dispute you see, they can't politicize it, so they don't give a hootin.

Yep, as we saw in this here thread. Coming out of the woodwork like a buncha insects, screaming for blood. Especially that aristedes.

Well the kids are able to make their own, responsible decisions these days. At least according to you people.

Anyone deranged is a kook. As we see by the deranged leftists coming out of the woodwork screaming in response to your inflammatory thread. Bodies were still warm and you used it to launch a political attack. Can't think of anything more despicable right now. But hey, what more do we expect? leftie.

It sure looks like you do-

The divisiveness sure is. See thread. So you condone what the left is doing. Hell, more than thst, you're jeering right along with the rest of them.

I said you were were being sarcastic ,that doesn't necessarily mean I was. Some of the more infamous mass shooters left manifestos. It's in vogue these days among those who engage in mass murder. They generally say the same thing, amounting to that they snapped and went on a rampage because they can no longer tolerate the lies and deceit of the left. Am not stating that I approve of it, or that I think it is justice. Am simply stating it is a fact.

You're being sarcastic, I can tell. Sorry I didn't realize this was a serious conversation... Uh huh.

Hopefully it wasn't all the leftist propaganda that drove him nuts, and finally made him do it.

Yes indeed. Even the German Chancellor said so. "Multi-Kulti ist ein failure." - Angela Merkel Link It could be HOW it is implemented that can bring problems. Canada was already multicultural before this clown PM took over, of course. Back then people were carefully vetted by bureaucratic government chivattos. There was always a long line of people wanting to come in, so we chose the best of those. That is, whole families with young children, women and child refugees. Notice that lone adult males were generally not preferred. The idea being that families could bring their culture and assimilate into the culture of Canada. Tolerance, peace, acceptance of others, within a broad framework of civil society. It takes intelligence to live like this. In contrast to the barbaric savages being allowed in now. Uneducated, and dirty. Misogynistic and violent. Racists. They form into criminal gangs, as they do in their own country. Just look up Toronto news, car-theft ring in google images to see what I mean.