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Where was Rachael Maddow when Obama did... and where are they when Trudeau did it http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-immigration-detention-children-1.3995461

But it's OK when Obama did the same thing (e.g. Keystone XL, DRIC, NATO, "Buy American", etc.) ??? So I guess it just depends on who is doing the "screwing", eh ?

It is wonderful to see President Trump bringing Canada's latent and repressed patriotism boiling to the surface after so many years of forced cultural purging. This is the very same patriotism that some Canadians smugly looked down on Americans for...now that's "hypocrisy".

Your data is a little old. Trump's approval rating within America increased steadily every month since January 2018, which is verifiable, but I don't know what it did worldwide. I doubt that it improved at all. Americans seem to like their bad-boy president. Well, some do. As far as Canada goes, most Canadians have little idea of the inner workings of US federal and state law, let alone their history, so we are easily swayed and mislead. Most people don't know all the issues relating to illegals entering the US, but form opinions based on what little they know, and what the CBC opinion panels tell them. Finally the only poll that matters is the election. Getting back to Canada, the election of Ford is real evidence. Ontarians were tired of too many years of liberal leadership, and it was time to move on. Doug Ford is the backlash. For liberals, the bogeyman has come out of the closet.

Justin Trudeau the Bold, effectively silenced- Trudeau Suggests It’s Not His Place To Condemn Trump’s Migrant Child Policy When asked in the HOC what he was going to do about it, he said "From the very beginning I have been very clear on the role that Canadians expect of me — to stand up firmly and unequivocally for our values, for our interests, to protect Canadians and to make sure that we're doing well, as well as having a constructive relationship with the United States," Trudeau said. "That's what we're going to remain focused on. What we will not do, is play politics with this." In other words "I was told to shut my mouth, and that's what I'ma gonna do."

It is not "unpatriotic" to criticize Justin Trudeau, regardless of Trump's antics. Justin Trudeau is a putz...there...I said it. Trudeau was failing badly even in Canadian media long before Trump's remarks/tariffs.

Goallllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll !!!! Excellent post.

Well, they did admit on the other forum that they are only here to troll. “In March of 1993, The United States Supreme Court issued a ruling in Flores vs Reno. (Yes, “That” Reno. Janet Reno, Bill Clinton’s first Attorney General who ordered that young Elian Gonzalez be torn from his parents arms while hiding in a Miami closet. You might remember the iconic photograph.) The Court decided that minors could not be incarcerated with the adults accompanying them across the United States border illegally. The decision was the result of a long dispute in how to best care for these children while the adults were detained for criminal proceedings. https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/91-905.ZS.html

But...but...it only matters when Trump does it !

Agreed...the Trump haters seized upon this issue for political gain and 2018 midterms. They needed a victory after last year's disaster when the Democrats shut down the federal government for illegal immigrants, which hurt them badly. Yes, and that includes refusing to become an illegal immigrant / refugee camp as seen in Turkey and other nations. Trump still gets to keep the pressure on Congress to clean this mess up instead of kicking the can down the road yet again.

Here's what Media Bias Fact Checker says about LifeSite News: "Extreme" - just like the Muslim extremists.

Can we just stop bickering amongst ourselves. Lets focus on the best way forward. I think legislature should adopt policies that encourages legal immigration where possible. That being said, the ultimate issue is what kind of people should we allow in. We have to make sure they are people who can contribute to society and take care of themselves. So when they do come in they are able to take full advantage of our American dream and not be subject to exploitation, hence the emphasis on "legal". It is not reasonable to expect the US to take in everyone that come seeking assylum. Nor should we turn everyone away from their desparate flight. This is where the issue arise. Whilst they are in the purgatory stage of applying for asylum, what immigrant status should we allow? Should they be detained or set free and run the risk of never coming back for the asylum hearing. Or adopt policies that allow for a probationary period where they are allow to legally work and demonstrate their contributions like a try out. Policy needs enforcement to be effective. What tools do we have to allow ourself to enforce these policies.

I just saw his speech on this. He was trying to 'apologize' (explain his actions) with clarity. I agreed with that explanation. It was more neutral and points to the fact of his approach: Be tough when there seems to be no other alternative. I'm trying to think of some analogy others can relate to. Here's one: You have an originally large mansion that has plenty of room and amenities out in a world that is relatively unable to afford the same. You invite others initially to come over and are willing to set up everyone with a guest room, host, and feed them regardless of their differences. At first, this was fine. But in time others hear that you are doing this and so it attracts those most desperate to come over and mingle unnoticed among all the other guests. In time though, the household begins to complain that their guests are starting to be a little more brazen and rude, taking what you offer in kindness to the extreme. You have some household members begin to turn some of these obvious desperadoes away because, while you care, you cannot sustain the overwhelming people beginning to exploit the confusion by CRASHING your parties. What is happening recently though is like if the desperate people coming over begin to bring their children over as a form of 'shield' defense mechanism used to pull at the heart strings of those family members who can't resist the cute, innocent children of these parents. Another kind of similar argument can be like those 'cat hoarders' that begin in a similar vein. Their intent may be good to allow these cats. But when you set a precedence that you accept any cat, they begin to take advantage and overrun the household without concern to the economic viability of the host. We cannot continue to accept some of these behaviors. Many who support letting these parents and others to use children as a defence, MAY agree that it is at least abusive of the person hoarding cats, that society should remove the cats and place a fine on the one keeping them. How is this not being noticed? Another point that I do not see that maybe someone else here might raise: WHY is the country of origins not being understood as the initiating ones at fault? Why are we not condemning the parents bringing these children over rather than finding some means to address the nature of the poorer classes from those countries to overpopulate? It is 'evolutionary' by design that where animals are suffering, they have more offspring quicker (like rabbits, say) to compensate for the limited resources by adding numbers as a means to increase the probability of persisting. Yet, we as intelligent beings know this is NOT a compassionate factor. That is, the very parents having more children may not realize this but they TOO are abusing the children in the sense that they are using more offspring they KNOW (as intelligent beings) makes more beings that must suffer at their expense. I'm not a Trump fan. But this emotional play with the children is itself a con. Trump's decision IS sometimes a necessary 'evil'....especially when you already have the same kind of people WITHIN your household who is suffering. Why appeal to the masses of emotively appealing beings when you cannot even feed those emotively appealing beings in isolation at home? The CROWD of people at once falsely makes it seem these people are in MORE desperate need to attend to when the real majority of those in similar situations are already in the country but can't be noticed for being distributed all around and unseen.

I agree with this in theory; having an effective, but humane way of forcing people to apply through proper channels would be my ideal. But that also needs to come with a decision on how much of a moral obligation we (or the US) have to 'save' people at risk due to their own country's lack of adequate, honest and ethical law enforcement, or legal protections for women, children or gay people. Do we have an obligation to help political dissidents in totalitarian-type regimes? Or those fleeing war, whether civil war or otherwise? If, as a country, we (or the US) call ourselves more moral, more democratic, more humanitarian than the regimes that people flee from, does that obligate us to practice what we preach even with those that arrive at our borders looking for what we boast about?

Right. FOCUS on why they left their own homeland! BECAUSE THEY FEEL ENDANGERED! Then, don't fault the country that they've gone for refuge, for taking steps! A country is not obligated to accept anyone - a country has its own policy! Anyone trying to get in a country for refuge should be willing to go through the country's policy! When you're desperate and begging, you don't have the luxury of dictating the standard you want! This ridiculous sense of entitlement is really out of whack! You guys don't understand real concept of desperation by people fleeing persecution and danger, if you're quibbling over the USA's policy of accepting ILLEGALS! Trudeau, and all of you so appalled by the treatment of these illegals should issue another invitation - take them all to Canada!

I agree that this particular situation is particularly unnecessary; the Trump administration could do the same as the Obama administration but they choose not to. Trumptards who defend this choice are equally immoral. Separating kids from addicted parents or abusive parents or even occassionally from illegal immigrant parents is not even in the ballpark of what Trump decided to do here. If I believed in God, I would say that Trumptards will have a lot to answer for on Judgement Day.

Betsy, this has been answered over and over. I provided you with all the information and you refuse to acknowledge it. Beastiality is not a "sexual orientation." Pedophilia is not a "sexual orientation". Necrophilia is not a "sexual orientation". Do I need to bold that, make the printing red, increase the font and place weird-ass emojis all over my posts to make you understand? Sheesh! You really are thick.

I believe the BLM-Pride controversy reflects the fact that Pride no longer plays a vital role in promoting gay rights, which are now largely codified in law even if acceptance isn't universal in the general population. The Pride festival I most recently attended, about 6 or 7 years ago, seemed like a 'fin de siecle' event. It appeared to me a rather boring corporate-driven and cliche-soaked enterprise. When I'd previously attended the event in the mid 1990s, there was an edge to it as the gay community was at the time fighting for basic civil and social rights as well as AIDS treatments. I suspect the whole thing was ripe for a takeover and that seems to be what's happened. I read a fascinating piece in the National Post a week ago where the author, who identifies himself as being gay, notes the irrelevancy of the parade in today's context. A good friend of mine, who is gay, believes it time the Pride festival be reconsidered. If it's no longer relevant to much of the LGBT community, why should it be relevant to anybody else? It's served its purpose. http://nationalpost.com/opinion/im-gay-and-i-wouldnt-blame-doug-ford-for-avoiding-torontos-pride-parade

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/canada-detention-children-united-states-1.4709632

Just send them all to Canada...Justin Trudeau said they will be welcomed with open arms and wallets.

To be honest there is nothing special about polish football. They have always been a second/ third class football team in Europe.... Good luck to Iran and team e Meli. As much as I favour underdogs in the world cup, playing top level European/ South American teams is a different level playing fields. This world cup has brought in many surprises so far. For me the introduction of VAR has been very useful in helping referees making the right decision.

Cool story but all it boils down to is that you believe two wrongs make it right.

Fascist authoritarian Demagogue approach anti immigrant Ultra nationalist.. Anti media Unites base by targeting groups to hate Trump classic fascist

True 'dat...there is absolutely zero compassion from them when it comes to killing unborn children. And they want somebody else to pay for it.

Underdogs African Senegal and Asian Japan created an upset by beating the European Poland and South American Colombia today. Lets see if Asian Champion Iran can defeat 2010 World Champion Spain tomorrow or if Morocco can beat Portugal.

So show me where I ever wished Canada into the ground, go on, I'll wait. As for your typical snide response to my prior comment. I question your patriotism. All I know of you and Diahlama indicates that both of you like to sit and pass judgement on others, question their underlying beliefs, yet you yourself have never made any sacrifice for your country. And no, spouting off on line does not count as any kind of personal sacrifice. So go ahead, prove me wrong, you or Diahlama, tell all of us what great personal sacrifice you've made for Canada. As I said, I'll wait. Failing that I'll just regard your opinion on patriotism as what it is, just a bunch of self serving hot air and shit.

Since many Canadians FEAR Trump so much, he should give them even more to be afraid of. Boo !!

Here, Betsy: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/oct/31/apa-correct-manual-clarification-pedophilia-not-se/ They are not saying what you think they're saying. Take off the Bible glasses and let your brain work. See how a little extra research can prevent you from spreading falsehoods, Betsy?

What does my question have to do with Trump? It's a very straight forward question. Have you been drinking, or are you simply refining the art of stupid to new levels? If you are questioning my patriotism then I suggest you shut up, get off your ass and march on down to the nearest recruiting center. There you can sign up and devote two decades or more of your life to your country. When you do that I'll listen to anything you have to say about patriotism. Until then all you're doing is spouting off so much hot air.

Canadians should be free to "insult" Justin Trudeau or agree with "insults" levied at Trudeau without their "patriotism" being questioned, regardless of what Trump says. Justin Trudeau was a putz long before Trump's remarks, and called as much in Canadian media. So now Trudeau is a hero ?