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Actually if the public knew how Bernardo lives they would be up in arms. He in fact lives in a very nice self contained apartment with a large screen t.v. He does not live in the tiny cell people thing he does. The people on this forum pissing on GBay have no idea what its facilities provided either. They assume because they read an internet article that said he was woken every 3 hours, at one point to be interrogated, this automatically made the GBay facilities evil. The actual physical facilities were in total conformity to the 3rd Geneva Convention at all times and in fact impeccably clean. There isn't a damn prisoner anywhere in the Middle East who is remotely treated the way prisoners in G bay were. What Kadr claims was torture, is a routine practice of interrogation used by police across the world and in Canada and the US. If it constitutes torture then using that reasoning we should be paying hundreds of thousands of people financial compensation for being cross examined while they were tired or because they cried. There's a reason Kadr's lawyers wouldn't allow him to testify about his alleged torture. It would have revealed his crying, his emotional stress was not caused by torture but the awareness no one was coming to save him. His feelings of immortality were shattered. That's got nothing to do with torture and everything to do with someone who realizes he aint the tough guy he thought he was. Prisons do that. Try explain that to people who have never been out of Mama's basement.

This week JT was featured on the cover of Rolling Stones. The nearly 7,000 word story was a poorly written puff piece that couldn't have been more fawning over Trudeau if it was written by the LCP themselves. But one part of the story is getting some backlash from an unexpected source. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/27/justin-trudeau-rolling-stone-boxing-match-indigenous-people I remember this was set up by the, now defunct, Sun News TV Network. Brazeau looked like he was the tougher guy. Until you realized he gave up several inches in hight and wingspan to the gangly JT. JT destroyed him. We now get a revelation that Brazeau was picked precisely because he's FN is a bit of blemish on Mr. Inclusive wouldn't you say? I doubt this will cause too controversy. But it is another example where JT isn't what he says he is.

First did you make a spelling mistake? Oh me oh my. Imagine you doing that. I thought only moi did. See we do have so much in common. Next, I disagree with how the charter is applied. I don't speak for other critics. I think the reasoning that it be applied as widely as possible has created a pendelum that has swung so far from its original intent to now threaten its very purpose. Whether s.1 will ever be used to swing the pendelum away from an extreme in wide application remains to be seen. I don't see such decisions in this generation. That said, I did have the luxury of taking a graduate course in constitutional law at Osgoode Hall when I did my Master's, It's a bizarre area of law full of baffle gab. What I found fascinating though was Prof. Hogg who assisted Trudeau and drafted much of the Charter. He spoke candidly to me while we were eating dinner and said neither he nor Trudeau had envisioned the Charter being used as it was in criminal law. They only envisioned it as a way to protect equality rights of French, natives, gays. He said the Charter has taken on a life of its own because of the Supreme Court of Canada's decision to interpret it as widely as possible. I found that very interesting and its why I say to you without partisan bias, I think the Charter is not the problem, sometimes its wide application may be questionable. Charters, constitutions are essential components of democracy and to be safeguards for democratic processes they have to have teeth and be enforced. I would not argue against that, of course not if that is your point. You are right, constitutions that are not enforced become jokes like the one in Russia which sounds fantastic when you read it. The point is its far to say what you do that a constitution with teeth protects a democracy but it can at times undermine it if it goes too far. So far it has not. The Supreme Court of Canada's interpretation of violations at Kadr in regards to fundamental rules of Justice as no different than the US Constitution finding it so as well as the Australian and British high courts. That's not the issue. The Charter was violated for Kadr. It entitled him to return and release-the other issue whether he should be financially compensated personally (other than being released and his legal bill paid) was never brought to the Supreme Court of Canada to reference and interpret. It remains unknown. As long as its not referenced TRudea's refusal to reference it lends to the appearance terrorists as long as they are Canadian can personally gain financially if their charter rights are violated. That violates our most fundamental of legal doctrines that wrong doing can never lead to personal financial reward. The only criminals who have been compensated were in fact proven not to have ever engaged in the actions leading to their arrest. You've failed to grasp that difference. You feel the procedural violations of the Charter magically undo the actions that led to Kadr's detention. They do not. They were wrong actions whether he was brainwashed, a child, fully knew what he did, had no understanding fo what he did. Terrorism doesn't cease being terrorism based in a legal procedural error, it only allows a technical defence to prevent detention. That was and has always been the law until Trudeau for political reasons avoid the public morality and dirty hands doctrine references. Those references stand side by side the charter. The Charter has no section that extinguishes them and I think had they been referenced the courts would have set the government's wrong doing could be addressed, remedied and acknowledged in ways OTHER than giving Kadr personally, money. The pay off I believe creates a bad precedent that undermines all our laws and the Charter until such a reference is done. I know you disagree. I am stating this because people trained as lawyers see the law as a balancing act not a partisan political act. We weigh all the issues not just select the ones that suit our political agenda. I politically despise everything Kadr is and stands for. I do understand why the law releases him from detention, It did so as a balancing act so in the future innocent people do not have their rights violated. However where we differ is I don't stop there and pretend the issue dies there. I see that as only one of the issues to be addressed the other being to ask when does someone whose rights are violated get pecuniary awards. Using your logic a drunk driver who kills someone and gets off on a technicality, i.e., the court waited too long to try him even though the blood test shows he was way over the limit, should be able to get financial compensation. I disagree.

His son is well on his way to match or surpass that record.

The Canadian Charter is an absolute embarrassment and should never have been put into force. Another move by the most destructive Prime Minister that Canada has ever had.

Wtf ever. There have been Islamic extremists since the beginning of Islam.... nature of the beast.. mpbuh

I'll let you obsess over one word in a media article. I have better fish to fry. No he was not. This is par for you. Changing and molding the facts to suit your opinion. If this came from the lips of a Khadr, I don't believe a word. BS.

Honestly, I don't believe that the people in the White House are that stupid or undisciplined. (Trump's loyal base is but that's a different discussion). I've come to the conclusion that Scaramucci's outburst was to deflect media attention from the fact that the GOP was trying to take Healthcare away from 16 million Americans in a bill that was literally dreamed up over lunch. And from Trump's perspective, the Healthcare bill itself is misdirection. I've been reading up on Putin and the Russian oligarchs. They've been laundering their money through New York real estate and it's pretty clear to me that the Trump family was involved. Robert Muelller has recently expanded the Trump probe to include business deals and the Trumps are now crapping their pants. Remember the name Preet Bharara? He was a US Attorney who was suddenly fired by Trump. At the time he was fired, he was working on a money laundering case involving a Russian holding company called Prevezon. After Bharara was let go, the case was quickly and quietly settled (with, of course Prevezon admitting to no wrong doing). Prevezon's lawyer was Natalia Veselnitskaya. If that name sounds familiar, maybe it's because she's the lawyer that met with Trump Jr when he was promised official Russian dirt on Hillary. link here. The stench on the Trump family is building. If there is still anything called justice in the USA, the whole family will be indicted. Follow the money.

You can disagree all you want, but you are wrong. I don't mind substantive arguments but we can leave the insults at the door. THAT is why I reported the post. I may exercise some slandering of other members here, I wonder if that will get me banned. Let's give it a shot shall we??

How cute that Trump thought it'd be a distraction from his inability to repeal Obamacare. What could be a distraction is the fact that his Director of Communication is crazier than he is.

Your definition of terrorism is just obfuscation, Rue, which I would expect from you given your broad anti-Muslim Zionist agenda. My definition is pretty clear and simple, and applies to radical so-called 'Islamic' extremists as well as the western powers who perpetrate hatred for greedy purposes. "Terrorism is propagating hatred, inciting - and arming - violence." In fact, the west created 'Islamic' extremists to serve it's own greedy purposes. Who is making money from selling the arms in Syria? The purpose of inciting violent terrorism is greed ... for money (arms sales), resources (oil, etc) or land (Israel/Palestine). Violent terrorism would not exist without greed.

In regards to your first comment, his father in fact never sent him. Someone else did. His father sent him to a terrorist training camp. In regards to your second comment, when he was captured he was not in the care of another man, you fabricated that. You also fabricate the other man through the grenade because your bias can not allow you to think of Kadr as a terrorist murderer-in your fantasy world he was just sitting doing nothing. In regards to this second comment you also fabricated the other terrorist he was with was a friend of his father's. You have no evidence to that fact. You assume becaue Kadr;s father was an Al Quaeda terrorist every other terrorist was a friend of his. This is a naïve stereotype you create where you think Al Quaeda terrorists are one cohesive unit of friends. In fact they are as likely to kill one another as they are the "infidel". That you have no clue about because you don't have a clue how terrorists operate. Terrorists work in cells. Loosely knit cells where they are not comrade but men brought together with different emotional and intellectual levels and ideologies whose sole thing in common is they are both angry. Terror cells are packs with an Alpha male and usually range from 4 to 5 to maybe 30. Each alpha male or cell leader reports to a contact or handler. The handler does not tell them about other cells so if they are caught they can't be tortured into explaining what the other cells are doing. There is actually little if any contact between cells and when there is it usually breaks down as competing cell leaders get into battles as to who is in charge. You say as well he did what his father told him. Sure in your fantasy world if he never had an independent though it makes him a sweet innocent angel in your eyes which you badly need to believe in. The other alternative, that he did not always do what his father told him, in fact he did what he himself chose and that was violence, would blow the crap out of your fantasy scenario. You then fabricate some story about his brother. Again the script supports your fantasy that his brother as well only operated based on fear of his father, never on his own accord. The alternative, that the brother acted not just based on his father's beliefs, but his own petrifies you into a complete denial. Your last sentence is meaningless. The entire world could use that rationalization to avoid any responsibility for what they did. You present convenient, simplistic, pat formulas for complex behaviour-it makes the world safe for you. In your world there is no one who actually engages in evil things, they are simply evil because they are trying their best to survive. What an insult to people who have had to survive after choosing not to do what they were told because they knew it was wrong. Yah I know in your world, children, youth, they are morons. They simply do what they are told. None of them think for themselves. What patronizing crap.

Lol....cells to hold criminals are now called torture chambers? I guess we better let Bernardo et al out and start saving the money to pay the settlements.

I read the article...it was gay!

These ad homonems must stop

Because people don't care when their governments kill other people across the other side of an ocean in countries/cultures/people they don't care about, especially when they don't have to witness that violence or its effects on those people. Out of site, out of mind. Muslim terrorism, on the other hand, is a threat to the security of people's own societies which people naturally hold dear. Some parts of some Muslim cultures seen as incompatible or contrary to traditional Canadian/western culture are also seen as threats to these cultures.

Do you condemn this "breast ironing" practice or not?

Well intelligent people don't take joy in insulting someone's intelligence. They would help someone understand their ignorance by answering the question. You don't feel any need to do that.

Maybe because the "other long-standing troll" makes excellent points whether or not you agree with them. The two have vastly, vastly different approaches to posting on MLW so they are as dissimilar as you can get. You don't have to like his content - for example, Omni and I are at opposite ends of pretty much every spectrum and I happen to think his reasoning is completely wrong, but he tries to use facts when he argues and isn't a one trick pony with his posts.

I get a kick out of the idea that any anticipated health care costs anticipated for xgender people is a tenth of what the military currently spends on Viagra.

Donald shooting from the hip again. Looks like he will have to come up with some actual policy. Not something he has excelled at. Not so fast.

And you never say anything about that yet you like to pass yourself off as a moral individual.

You don't criticize because criticism of Israel has been made into a smear campaign and you don't have the cojones to do so.

Bullshit, The day of his capture none of his parents were around, both were hundreds of kms away.... The man in charge of Omars protection decided getting into a fire fight with American SF soldiers was more important, than watching the little boy Omar.....wait a 15 year old, considered to be a Man in Afghanistan at age 12....While he was under this mans protection for months Omar could have simply walked off during this time....But he did not he liked what he was doing, playing terrorist for a world reknown terrorist group..... Perhaps you can provide a quote where as you claim his father threatened him with death.....

You know that tranny and homo are derogatory terms (as I have pointed that out to you previously) but yet you continue to use them. If someone insulted your children with derogatory terms and you pointed it out would you not hope they would in the future address them in a respectful manner.

Because our governments in the West don't support (politically and economically) those countries but they support Israel. This is similar to Apartheid South Africa. An African government that was initially supported by Western governments, despite their blatant abuse of a group of people. The only reason that was stopped was because people spoke out against it and it started with cultural and economic boycotts.

Where did you get that information, because it seems that people actually in the military, claim he conferred with no one in the military. There are currently about 6k xgender already serving and by all accounts serving well. And beyond that, he loved the LGBT community when he was campaigning, and wanted their votes, (even though when he paraded on stage with a rainbow flag he didn't realize he had it up side down) and now he's going to kick them to the curb. If you look up the work HYPOCRITE in funk and wagnells, assuming you have one, you should see a picture of a goofy looking bugger with fake hair and orange powder splattered on his face.

I very much like cannuck`s take on this matter. Too bad you chose to insult cannuck who is merely trying to have an adult discussion with you.

BS. http://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/who-is-the-real-omar-khadr/ This traitor had plenty of opportunities to escape the grip of his father but he repeatedly failed to do so. He preferred to continue his jihadist errands unsupervised and failed to surrender when he could have on many occasions. This is BS at its stinkiest that he was threatened with death if he defied his father.

No, I don`t have to be in agreement with all our laws. And neither do other Canadians.