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“Trudeau is the political equivalent of a YouTube puppy video,” Best line of the week.....goes to writer Jesse Brown of Toronto. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/may/26/justin-trudeau-jogging-yoga-shirtless-photos-pr-stunts

Just part of the somnambulists who refuse to see the problem with increasing the numbers of Islamists in a western society - it doesn't work, plain and simple. As they infiltrate into politics eventually we will be doing more than simply accommodating prayers in schools. Look at the first act of a Muslim MP - she puts forward a motion to silence critics, then we have Omar Alghabra a Saudi born extremist now ensconced in Cabinet, whose supporters after he was elected were saying "this is a victory for Islam". Wait until the demographics increase and these people have the ability to change laws - get your burkas out ladies. Some people seem to accept that mass murder in the name of Islam is fine and dandy, we just have to live with it. They see see no reason to condemn the atrocities but are too willing to condemn the West. You know how it goes - Poor Islam, just getting it’s own back I suppose <sarcasm> If we don't name it and stand up to it we will lose - everything. BTW, if you think the No Go Zones in Paris and elsewhere are a myth as portrayed by the media, as these ladies why they are protesting https://www.thelocal.fr/20170519/protest-over-no-go-zone-for-women-in-paris-immigrant-district

How many terror attacks and deaths of innocent children will it take before western civilization wakes up to realize it is sleepwalking to it's own cultural demise. I don't think that so many people have so willingly accepted their political and cultural annihilation as they have in Europe, and eventually North America along with Oz.

Both. I agree with your last comments for sure but its also about having us hate Muslims. We hate them, they then are easier to recruit by terrorists. I have seen it first hand on the West Bank. You get a kid at 5 to start throwing rocks. Then when he's hurt by a soldier his family who may have been moderate now hate Israeli soldiers and are willing to assist Hamas. I've seen how it works first hand. When a terrorist kills an Israeli, the Israelis now react by not trusting any Muslims and that in turn makes the Muslims feel all Israelis hate them. That's what the terrorists want. The true agenda of terrorism is to spread panic, hatred, discriminatory beliefs and an inability to tell innocent from guilty. It works. It manipulates emotions and breeds angry misdirected responses. It also does what you say. Its also designed to make people fear Islam. Terrorists are not geniuses. They operate on base primary instincts. Their acts are primal. If they are to become elaborative techniques used to change behaviour they no longer use primal violence they use other modes of disinformation and psychological manipulation such as false news.

Taxme quoted 25-30% and they'll be pushing sharia law. I disagree, as we've seen in Europe, it only takes about 5% to begin demonstrations and bombings. Once, like in Europe, they have their own communities, we'll see exactly what we see there - no go zones, no women areas etc. We're on our way! What makes any of you people really believe that these people will be any different than they are in Sweden, England, France, Germany, Brussels or anywhere else where their numbers are increasing? What? Do you people believe that we'll only get the "good muslims"? Really? No, we can see our future simply by looking across the pond - it's very simple really. And, about the "quiet neighbour", "jaded youth" or "lone wolf" bull crap, this guy wasn't any of these. The police have arrested his father and 2 brothers who were also involved and planning their own attack - any many more muslim rats knew about it - WTF does that tell you? Depending on what polls you trust, and what vernacular you use anywhere between 20% and 65% of muslims approve of this type of "war", approve of bombing young girls. Lets take the low end of 20%, we have a 1 million Muslims in this country - that's 200,000 people who are just fine with what we saw in Manchester - does that not sicken you liberals even a bit?

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I have stood on guard for Canada actually. Have you?

Good or bad timing ? Canada releases new Eid postage stamp. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/canada-post-issues-first-ever-eid-stamp-ahead-of-ramadan-1.4132708

Your buddies Hitler, Mao and Stalin murdered millions upon millions.

Sorry....made me chuckle.

Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster... for when you gaze long into the abyss. The abyss gazes also into you. http://cnqzu.com/library/Philosophy/neoreaction/Friedrich Nietzsche/Walter_Kaufmann - The_Portable_Nietzsche_(tr._Walter_Kaufmann_1977).pdf

Along with their goal of getting you to hate and fear Muslims in order to alienate them from Western and progressive societies and force them back into the arms of regressive Islam. So hey, they are succeeding where you are concerned. Not succeeding where I'm concerned, so who is doing the better job of fighting Islamic terror? The ones who follow ISIS plans or the ones who don't?

The EDL was created as a response to Muslim attacks on returning British soldiers. It does not appear to be an extremist group as far as I have been able to determine, though of course, some extremists have joined it - and been booted out when discovered.

Here is one undeniable fact. If there were no Muslims in the UK, there would be no terrorism. There is simply no getting around that.

You are working for Islam.

Nothing to do with Islam: rinse repeat...rinse, rinse, rinse...repeat...

Yes, at least I recognize when I don't know something, instead of spewing out stupidity based on ignorance, fear and hate. For instance: In fact Albedi was reported multiple times because people in his community were concerned about his extremist views.

It is quite apparent from the gist of the conversation that many MLW posters are quite willing to make us all take a chance re: Islamic terror...increasing the chances as the years pass and the Muslim population grows and gets bolder. They feel themselves immune to terrorism which is amusing...even wishing death on a fellow like myself at the hands of the Jihadis. Pretty extreme as I said at the time... I think...unfortunately...that it will take MORE terror attacks that affect them personally before the attitude might change. Even then: Stockholm syndrome...these folks drank the kool-aid. Probably blame me if I wasn't already dead...lol.

And the Sens fall to the Pens in double overtime. In Bettman's world, the Universe is unfolding as it should.

The 9/11-terrorists were sons of Saudi-diplomats so hardly poor beggars, the 7/7-terrorists in London 12 years ago all had good jobs and happy families. Poverty and alienation may explain some terrorism but the issue is more complicated than that.

Yes, I suppose some muslims weren't involved - we don't know how many that some is. However, even of those not involved, at least 20%-60% support the bombing.

That you are sir!

OH, and here we go with the loner or crazy excuse - anything but Islam...right?

So, if it's about the Caliphate, then it's about them not us, not how "poorly" they're treated (even though the west has bent over backwards for them) or how alienated they are, it's about the Caliphate - their religion - Islam. OK, so 20-30% of muslims believe (admittedly) in the Caliphate. Lets go with 20%, that's 350 million people who want to see us dead - for what? OK, that means that 350 million or 1 out of every 5 Muslims (I think it's more...but) wants you , your wife, and your children dead. Why? because of Islam. In englend stats show that at least 20% of Muslims believe that suicide bombings are just, other polls say up to 60%. At least 1 in 5 maybe 2 or 3 out of 5 Muslims in England think that blowing up 8-18 YO girls is justified. These girls had their arms, legs and heads blown to pieces and up to 60% of Muslims in England are OK with it. It took 2 days to identify some of these girls because their heads were blown apart - because of Islam.

Hal for sure once Muslim numbers increase the likelihood of a Muslim terrorist in their midst goes up. That's true. But using that very rational, we should take in no immigrants at al because when you take in anybody the chances of some of them being criminals, pedophiles, drug addicts, goes up. So just wow far do you want to go in screening? Also do we have a way to prevent people who are Muslim but hide their identity from getting in the country? Also will you screen out anyone who looks dark or has a big nose because you think they "look" Muslim? Also the block out all Muslims approach does not address the made in Canada terrorists who were not even born Muslim and convert to it after reading about it on the internet. So the issue is far more complex then just a knee jerk blame all Muslims approach. Terrorism is designed by terrorists to get us to react by blaming all Muslims as terrorists. This then alienates Muslims and makes them distrustful of we non Muslims fearing us for blaming them for terrorism and that makes them in turn more easy to recruit by Muslim terrorists. The terrorists with their actions want us to hate all Muslims. Its not just about killing and making people fear them its also about getting non Muslims to hate Muslims. So no thanks I aint doing what Muslim terrorists want. I will not hate all Muslims because of Muslim terrorists, That's what those Muslim terrorists want and they won't get it from me. I see the knee jerk reaction that fails to distinguish innocent from guilty Muslim and I can understand why its hard to distinguish the two and how we have to be realistic in our screening process sure I get that and support that but no don't ask me to join in with the anti Muslims. I'm anti Muslim terrorist not anti Muslim and I won't blur the two. So my last answer to you is yes Hal, we have to be realistic if we take in fundamentalist Muslims as immigrants the risk of some of them becoming terrorists goes up so we have to re-examine our screening procedures. Yes terrorists are coming out of Muslim countries posing as refugees. Yes...but I don't think arresting all Muslims is the solution not do I think its realistic. Ismaili and Amidyah Muslims are not terrorists many fled Muslim terrorism. Many other Muslims fled terrorism to get here not come to be terrorists. I do not feel like stereotyping all Muslims with hateful words. Its too easy but yes we need more realistic screening and waiting procedures if that is your point. What I am saying Hal is let's please lets not punish genuine refugees or progressive positive Muslims helping build Canada. Yes lets crack down on Muslim terrorists.

They have no travel ban in the UK. There they let Muslims go fight for ISIS and come back free and clear - how's that going for them? Do you think Trudeau will allow muslims to go fight for ISIS and return home - of course he will! Some of the more idiotic comments i've heard are; ISIS wants a reaction, ISIS wants a travel ban...Bull! ISIS wants people who can travel back and forth without question, they want to use our liberal laws against us - that's what they want. ISIS sits back and laughs their asses off at just how stupid western liberals are - I guarantee it!

There's a video going around the interwebs at the moment* that shows a street scene in what I assume is Syria or Iraq (judging by the Russian military vehicles). Women and children mostly...some men....some soldiers. Suddenly in the distance there's a thump...and the people start to move quickly towards the camera...there's another loud thump/bang...everybody winces and breaks into a run. Unfortunately, you as the observer realize that this is being filmed by Jihadis themselves...and as the fleeing people get closer...they run smack into either a suicide bomber or a planted explosive which goes off as the people get closest to the filming camera. They disappear. Screams and shouts of Allahu Akbar... Chaos...difficult to see what's going on but people are obviously coming to help any wounded. Two more loud bangs...smoke...chaos...everybody is gone. Just smoke... * From a site we're not allowed to link to.

Is there anyone who doesn't believe that once the muslim numbers increase in Canada, we'll start seeing terrorist attacks too and look very much like France, Germany and England? IOW - does anyone not understand that we're inviting terrorism into our lives?

Exactly what I said. You and ISIS take the same words from the Quran to spread a message of violence. If I or anyone take different words from the Quran, words that don't promote violence, you and ISIS deny them.

I would like to ask if anyone thinks Douglas Murray is an Islamophobe for his campaign against Islamism and accommodation in the UK. He is, after all, a gay man, and polls posted here have shown more than half of British Muslims think all homosexuals should be in prison. So is his dislike of Islam 'unreasonable and unfounded'?

Why do people have a tendency to blame jews??? are you seriously comparing this orthodox man to Salman Abedi? Seriously???