Argus Posted April 22, 2012 Report Posted April 22, 2012 Another utterly stupid comment. Why? He's an Islamist, a religious fanatic. That's what they do, isn't it? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted April 22, 2012 Report Posted April 22, 2012 Apparently I'm in that category so why am I demanding the government treat his parents as the war criminals here and more to the point why aren't you? I'd have booted his family out years ago. But the laws established by the lib-left say they're as Canadian as I am and that we have no right to remove them. The laws also give pretty much free reign for religious wackos to teach their kids to be religious wackos. The only exception to that is for Christians. Society will on rare occasions, interfere if they're Christians, but everyone recoils in horror at the thought of interfering in the 'cultural rights' of 'brown people' and their contribution to our 'cultural mosaic'. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted April 22, 2012 Report Posted April 22, 2012 (edited) I think you're completely full of crap and that you should be deeply ashamed of yourself for your ongoing slander and defamation of Omar Khadr. I think Canadians like you should be identified and charged as accomplices in the crimes our government has committed against him so his settlement can be charged to you instead of me. Yeah, but, I think most of us have already come to understand that your grip on reality (not to mention sanity) is tenuous, at best. When Omar got angry at guards, he would recall killing American and be happy again Edited April 22, 2012 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted April 22, 2012 Report Posted April 22, 2012 I hear being born and growing up in Ontario can do that to a person. I've said before on a number of other immigration related topics that the children of immigrants are born here, but often not raised as if they're Canadians. That happens all across the country. They're raised as if they were still living in their home country, according to their home country's cultural beliefs, their values and their religions. They often don't associate much with children outside their ethnic group until they have to in school, and even there, given the nature of our cities, they often don't have to associate much except with their own kind. Some of the schools in the cities are so diverse that there are more of their own ethnic group there (almost all the children of immigrants) than anyone else. They watch TV and videos from their homeland ,they fly home on regular visits, they read books, magazines and internet pieces from their home country, and they go to religious and cultural events which continue to tie them to their homeland. So just how "Canadian" are these kids? And no, I'm not speaking about ALL immigrant children by any means. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
eyeball Posted April 22, 2012 Report Posted April 22, 2012 I'd have booted his family out years ago. But the laws established by the lib-left say they're as Canadian as I am and that we have no right to remove them. The laws also give pretty much free reign for religious wackos to teach their kids to be religious wackos. The only exception to that is for Christians. Society will on rare occasions, interfere if they're Christians, but everyone recoils in horror at the thought of interfering in the 'cultural rights' of 'brown people' and their contribution to our 'cultural mosaic'. It wasn't the left-lib love of 'brown people' that caused the government to not address Omar Khadr's criminal indoctrination it was because a very deep can of legal worms pertaining to the War on Terror and the manner in which it was conducted would be opened up if they did. One that will nonetheless be opened shortly after he arrives home. I would have booted his parent's sorry assess into court whether they were brown, yellow or pink. Along with many of the politicians who likewise deserve to be brought up on charges for war crimes. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Army Guy Posted April 22, 2012 Report Posted April 22, 2012 I'm not sure how many times you need to be kicked in the nuts before you come to the conclusion it hurts...The guy is a terrorist period, and you can't wash that shit off..you don't change because that is what your freedom costs ...what do you think they have been teaching him while in cells sewing...painting....he has been brewing with nothing but time to think...give him millions screw it make it billions if that is what it takes for the peaceniks to cleanse this event from they minds....shit invite him and his family into your neiborhoods.. What happens to Omar i don't care anymore....If you or him think he is going to gain his freedom when he gets home think again, sure he will able to go to the mall, his church , Mikey Dees for a burger, but remember to most of country Omar is well not well liked, and he will face more of his share of citizens that will let him know what they think...to others he will be the new canadian hollywood star fawning all over him ....on top of all that he's going to have CSIS, RCMP, and any other intel agency crawling around until his house becomes his new prison.. Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
eyeball Posted April 22, 2012 Report Posted April 22, 2012 ...If you or him think he is going to gain his freedom when he gets home think again, It's the knowledge of everything that was so misguided about Canada's involvement in the War on Terror that he embodies and represents that we will gain - like the lesson a puppy learns after it's nose is rubbed in the mess it made. ...he's going to have CSIS, RCMP, and any other intel agency crawling around until his house becomes his new prison.. Granted, he'll need to be protected from the hate filled fanatics still bent on abusing him I guess. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
jbg Posted April 22, 2012 Report Posted April 22, 2012 I hope Khadr sues us for millions once he's back. We ignored his rights as a citizen and as a child soldier. Recent Globe and Mail article As a child soldier, to kill Canadians? What rights? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
jbg Posted April 22, 2012 Report Posted April 22, 2012 I'd have booted his family out years ago. But the laws established by the lib-left say they're as Canadian as I am and that we have no right to remove them. The laws also give pretty much free reign for religious wackos to teach their kids to be religious wackos.There's some reason that people have thought it was a good idea to import immigrants that hate us. It's sort of like deciding to experiment on whether cancer can metastasize from one person to another by implanting stray bits of tumor into a transplant recipient.The only exception to that is for Christians. Society will on rare occasions, interfere if they're Christians, but everyone recoils in horror at the thought of interfering in the 'cultural rights' of 'brown people' and their contribution to our 'cultural mosaic'.Exactly. It's not O.K. to show sensitivity to the rights of a majority that built a country.And remember, I'm saying that though I'm not Christian. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
eyeball Posted April 22, 2012 Report Posted April 22, 2012 As a child soldier, to kill Canadians? What rights? Pretending you're stupid makes you look evil. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted April 22, 2012 Report Posted April 22, 2012 (edited) It's not O.K. to show sensitivity to the rights of a majority that built a country. Especially when that majority tramples on them. Edited April 22, 2012 by eyeball Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
jbg Posted April 22, 2012 Report Posted April 22, 2012 Especially when that majority tramples on them. Tramples on them how? By listening in on mosques to hear the planning for violence? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
eyeball Posted April 22, 2012 Report Posted April 22, 2012 Tramples on them how? By standing on them instead of up for them. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
jbg Posted April 22, 2012 Report Posted April 22, 2012 By standing on them instead of up for them. I have never stood on top of an immigrant, or a Muslim. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
eyeball Posted April 22, 2012 Report Posted April 22, 2012 I have never stood on top of an immigrant, or a Muslim. Do you stand by the same rights they're entitled to as you? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 22, 2012 Report Posted April 22, 2012 Do you stand by the same rights they're entitled to as you? Sure...we all have the right to behead defenseless journalists for YouTube! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Army Guy Posted April 23, 2012 Report Posted April 23, 2012 (edited) Do you stand by the same rights they're entitled to as you? Good question, and in my opinion Canada as a nation decided to send it's troops over to Afghanistan it was not to ensure that the terrorist rights were protected, it was to close with and destroy them, bottom line..Kill them all ..just because one of them was born in Canada does not change a thing... you think he was worried about his canadian rights when he made those vidios, when he entered that complex that was attacked...you think he even gave it a second thought when those 3 Afghanis soldiers were gunned down at the front door, just for knocking on it to ask a few questions....no they got no rights, because they are just dead Afghanis.... ladies and gentlemen what we got here is a Canadian kid in combat shot by those evil American soldiers...who had the gall to shoot him in the back....now what we have is a cause, and it involves 2 of our favorite things Canadian under dogs, and those evil americans...martha get out them god damn signs were going to parliment again.... Frankly i sick of it ...frankly it makes me want to puke...knowing that Canadians are willing to pay this terrorist out millions, while seeing and saying nothing of our own sons and daugthers come home in a box or mangle only to be paid off peanuts...2 rds to the back if that had been one of our sons, you remember those guys born here lived here their entire lifes volunteered to serve his country...gets paid out on average 10k 25 k if they was any real damage done, up to 250 K of course you need to be really screwed up to get that....and we are talking millions for Omar....feel the bile build up in the back of your throat...this whole thing makes me shake with anger....millions indeed, i say Suck my dick as Demmi moore once said..bring him home long enough for all of them to pack there bags, and head for sunny middle east were they can practice their new rights on others not as fortunite as us... Edited April 23, 2012 by Army Guy Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
DogOnPorch Posted April 23, 2012 Report Posted April 23, 2012 (edited) The point is that the LRA kidnaps (kidnapped?) children and used them as soldiers. We classified them as child soldiers. We've also done everything we could to stop it and help the children in any way we could. Your post said al-Qaeda is not an army, as if that even matters. It didn't matter for the terrorist LRA organization and it doesn't matter for al-Qaeda. The real criminals are the ones that used a child for their "war" against the West. If anybody, it's those sick adults that should have been locked up in Gitmo, not the child they brainwashed. Meh...go preach to someone else. A fellow named Gerry Kelly almost killed me when I was a youngster visiting Great Britain. Now he's a hero in Ireland and an MLA for North Belfast. Was I a 'child soldier'? Edited April 23, 2012 by DogOnPorch Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted April 23, 2012 Report Posted April 23, 2012 Sure...we all have the right to behead defenseless journalists for YouTube! Get it right, BC. Since Google took YouTube, the terrorists have had to resort to YNC and similar sites to post their beheading and IED strike videos. There are standards, yez know... Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Peter F Posted April 23, 2012 Report Posted April 23, 2012 Get it right, BC. Since Google took YouTube, the terrorists have had to resort to YNC and similar sites to post their beheading and IED strike videos. There are standards, yez know... Here here! Now where's the video of Omar Khadr beheading somebody? Quote A bayonet is a tool with a worker at both ends
Army Guy Posted April 23, 2012 Report Posted April 23, 2012 Here here! Now where's the video of Omar Khadr beheading somebody? I guess you hav'nt seen what an IED is capable of doing, and Omar has got a few vidios out on them.... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
DogOnPorch Posted April 23, 2012 Report Posted April 23, 2012 Here here! Now where's the video of Omar Khadr beheading somebody? Not allowed to post such videos here. Folks like yourself might think folks like Omar are murderous. How are the parade preparations coming for his glorious return to Canada? Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
jacee Posted April 23, 2012 Report Posted April 23, 2012 Good question, and in my opinion Canada as a nation decided to send it's troops over to Afghanistan it was not to ensure that the terrorist rights were protected, it was to close with and destroy them, bottom line..Kill them all ..just because one of them was born in Canada does not change a thing... you think he was worried about his canadian rights when he made those vidios, when he entered that complex that was attacked...you think he even gave it a second thought when those 3 Afghanis soldiers were gunned down at the front door, just for knocking on it to ask a few questions....no they got no rights, because they are just dead Afghanis.... ladies and gentlemen what we got here is a Canadian kid in combat shot by those evil American soldiers...who had the gall to shoot him in the back....now what we have is a cause, and it involves 2 of our favorite things Canadian under dogs, and those evil americans...martha get out them god damn signs were going to parliment again.... Frankly i sick of it ...frankly it makes me want to puke...knowing that Canadians are willing to pay this terrorist out millions, while seeing and saying nothing of our own sons and daugthers come home in a box or mangle only to be paid off peanuts...2 rds to the back if that had been one of our sons, you remember those guys born here lived here their entire lifes volunteered to serve his country...gets paid out on average 10k 25 k if they was any real damage done, up to 250 K of course you need to be really screwed up to get that....and we are talking millions for Omar....feel the bile build up in the back of your throat...this whole thing makes me shake with anger....millions indeed, i say Suck my dick as Demmi moore once said..bring him home long enough for all of them to pack there bags, and head for sunny middle east were they can practice their new rights on others not as fortunite as us... I get it Army Guy. I think it's disgusting how vets are treated too. Maybe a thread on that topic would be informative to a lot of us here. It's government's responsibility, but we need to understand the facts so we can support veterans' lobbying efforts. Khadr's situation is different, though. He didn't volunteer for anything, nor could he as a child, but was forced to 'serve' by his father. Justice should be done in both cases. One doesn't cancel out the other. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted April 23, 2012 Report Posted April 23, 2012 'Forced' to serve by his father, eh? Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
eyeball Posted April 23, 2012 Report Posted April 23, 2012 Good question, and in my opinion Canada as a nation decided to send it's troops over to Afghanistan it was not to ensure that the terrorist rights were protected, it was to close with and destroy them, bottom line..Kill them all ..just because one of them was born in Canada does not change a thing... It was Omar Khadr's universal human rights as a child that changed things, the fact he was Canadian born should have simply made it much easier for our government to recognize and stand up for them on his behalf much sooner. Instead it worked against them. you think he was worried about his canadian rights when he made those vidios, when he entered that complex that was attacked...you think he even gave it a second thought when those 3 Afghanis soldiers were gunned down at the front door, just for knocking on it to ask a few questions....no they got no rights, because they are just dead Afghanis.... He cannot be held legally responsible for the way he thought or acted because he was illegally indoctrinated into doing so by his parents. ladies and gentlemen what we got here is a Canadian kid in combat shot by those evil American soldiers...who had the gall to shoot him in the back....now what we have is a cause, and it involves 2 of our favorite things Canadian under dogs, and those evil americans...martha get out them god damn signs were going to parliment again....Frankly i sick of it ...frankly it makes me want to puke...knowing that Canadians are willing to pay this terrorist out millions, while seeing and saying nothing of our own sons and daugthers come home in a box or mangle only to be paid off peanuts...2 rds to the back if that had been one of our sons, you remember those guys born here lived here their entire lifes volunteered to serve his country...gets paid out on average 10k 25 k if they was any real damage done, up to 250 K of course you need to be really screwed up to get that....and we are talking millions for Omar....feel the bile build up in the back of your throat...this whole thing makes me shake with anger....millions indeed, i say Suck my dick as Demmi moore once said..bring him home long enough for all of them to pack there bags, and head for sunny middle east were they can practice their new rights on others not as fortunite as us... I feel every bit as sick and nauseous knowing that millions of Canadians would be just as happy if Khadr was pushed out of the plane that brings him home. What we have now is a country that is profoundly divided over an individual that is a lightning rod for both sides feelings not just about the war in Afghanistan but our fundamental values as a people. This war is finally coming home. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
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