President Nicolas Sarkozy

[bush_cheney2004]

Nicolas Sarkozy will be France's new president, defeating the Socialist opposition handily in a run-off, their third straight presidential defeat. Must have been that remark by Royal concerning Quebec independence!

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/stor...?hub=TopStories

Pop a cold one President Bush!

[B. Max]

Wasn't Chirac a socialist.

[bush_cheney2004]

No, I believe Chirac was a Gaullist, having formed the Rassemblement pour la République (RPR) in the 1970's. But the party morphed over the years, adopting liberal causes to get centered.

[B. Max]

No, I believe Chirac was a Gaulist, having formed the Rassemblement pour la République (RPR) in the 1970's.

I don't even know what a Gaulist is, or the rest of it for that matter.

[bush_cheney2004]

I don't even know what a Gaulist is, or the rest of it for that matter.

I don't either, save for the obvious link to General Charles de Gaulle and the good old days when France was much more influential on the international scene. These guys were big time conservatives, and a major pain in the ass for UK and USA.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaullism

[VJ2]

Wasn't Chirac a socialist.

Nope they belong to the same party the UMP - Sarkozy was his protege at one stage. Sarkozy opposes the war in Iraq and recommends a phased withdrawal

[sharkman]

Nicolas Sarkozy will be France's new president, defeating the Socialist opposition handily in a run-off, their third straight presidential defeat. Must have been that remark by Royal concerning Quebec independence!

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/stor...?hub=TopStories

Pop a cold one President Bush!

Well well well. Socialism rejected in France, will wonders never cease? Let's see what this guy does about the Muslim problem.

[VJ2]

Nicolas Sarkozy will be France's new president, defeating the Socialist opposition handily in a run-off, their third straight presidential defeat. Must have been that remark by Royal concerning Quebec independence!

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/stor...?hub=TopStories

Pop a cold one President Bush!

Well well well. Socialism rejected in France, will wonders never cease? Let's see what this guy does about the Muslim problem.

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I guess you're not paying attention. The socialists haven't been in power for the last 3 elections

[sharkman]

I guess you're not paying attention. The socialists haven't been in power for the last 3 elections

I don't know if you understood my comment, but since the socialist party lost this election, they were indeed rejected.

[VJ2]

I guess you're not paying attention. The socialists haven't been in power for the last 3 elections

I don't know if you understood my comment, but since the socialist party lost this election, they were indeed rejected.

Ok but they've been rejected for the last three elections so it's not a surprising turn of events

[kuzadd]

Nicolas Sarkozy will be France's new president, defeating the Socialist opposition handily in a run-off, their third straight presidential defeat. Must have been that remark by Royal concerning Quebec independence!

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/stor...?hub=TopStories

Pop a cold one President Bush!

Well well well. Socialism rejected in France, will wonders never cease? Let's see what this guy does about the Muslim problem.

"The Muslim problem"

maybe he will build big extermination camps.

Like Hitler did to contend with , as he called it the "Jewish problem"

as Hitler blamed all the ill's of Germany, and by extension Europe, on the "Jewish problem"

so many do the same, with the "Muslim problem"

Alas there are none so blind as those who CAN NOT see.

as history repeats itself.

rhetoric is rhetoric, propaganda is propaganda, and still people fall for it!!!

[scribblet]

I don't know if you understood my comment, but since the socialist party lost this election, they were indeed rejected.

Sarkozy has to be careful although he is not the conservative ideologue that Margaret Thatcher was, he could be in trouble if he tries to get the people to be more productive and work more hours. The unions et al have allready promised protests if he tries to reform. Remember the protest when the last pres. tried.

[sharkman]

"The Muslim problem"

maybe he will build big extermination camps.

Like Hitler did to contend with , as he called it the "Jewish problem"

as Hitler blamed all the ill's of Germany, and by extension Europe, on the "Jewish problem"

so many do the same, with the "Muslim problem"

Alas there are none so blind as those who CAN NOT see.

as history repeats itself.

rhetoric is rhetoric, propaganda is propaganda, and still people fall for it!!!

Okay, what yould you call a minority that started thousands of fires burning cars and looting? Fighting with police for weeks and making the streets unsafe, that IS a problem. When Jews start leaving a country, something's wrong.

[kuzadd]

"The Muslim problem"

maybe he will build big extermination camps.

Like Hitler did to contend with , as he called it the "Jewish problem"

as Hitler blamed all the ill's of Germany, and by extension Europe, on the "Jewish problem"

so many do the same, with the "Muslim problem"

Alas there are none so blind as those who CAN NOT see.

as history repeats itself.

rhetoric is rhetoric, propaganda is propaganda, and still people fall for it!!!

Okay, what yould you call a minority that started thousands of fires burning cars and looting? Fighting with police for weeks and making the streets unsafe, that IS a problem. When Jews start leaving a country, something's wrong.

you referring to the student riots in France?? That if I recall correctly spread over into Britian.?

of course you aren't? not the "right" group of people to scapegoat, correct ?

[sharkman]

Ah yes, the student riots. Funny thing about that. Most of the MSM declined to see that they were not students so much as kids of Arab muslim lineage. But their damn footage gave the secrets away.

[kuzadd]

Ah yes, the student riots. Funny thing about that. Most of the MSM declined to see that they were not students so much as kids of Arab muslim lineage. But their damn footage gave the secrets away.

I don't think you realize, I am referring to a second riot breakout, that happened after some specific legislation was passed in France. ( march 2006)

http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/france-studentprotests/

note the pics.

[sharkman]

No, I assumed you were refering to the riots I referenced with the burning cars, etc. Geez, how many riots do they have a year over there?

[southerncomfort]

The labour protests were never in the same league as those silly rioting students just having a bit of fun hmmm not politically correct to mention that they just happened to be Muslims. They spread to Sweden and Norway too but not widely reported in the MSM.

[Jerry Galinda]

What does it mean to be French muslim ?

What is more important – to be Frenchman or to be muslim ?

What is more important – loyalty to the religion or loyalty to the new country ?

New homeland gave them job, home, laws – and new homeland, new society should to receive something – not only disdain to rotten western democracy.

They are aggressive and intolerant to society where they live .

If they want to live in France, have kids, have grandchildren, they must make an effort to adopt to the society where they live.

Your statetement it's a naive propaganda.

[BC_chick]

"Le Revolucion Conservateur"

Yay, another 53% conservative "mandate."

Just like other conservative victories in these divisive times, a blow of the wind and it could've gone either way... but we're gonna call it a, um, "revolution."

Baby steps, right?

Oh, and ps, belated congrats on your mid-term elections last year. Vive le [sic] quoi?

Disclaimer - I didn't really care of Royal or Sarkozy, I just find the title of this thread amusing.

[Charles Anthony]

The concept of Socialism/Conservatism or Left/Right in France are completely different from what they are in North America.

defeating the Socialist opposition

I have never been to France but I know people who have.

Defeating socialism in France sounds like a joke.

[Liam]

Sarkozy and Chirac are, politically, closer together than either one is to an American conservative. "Conservative" or "right [wing]" in Europe has an entirely different meaning. If Sarkozy were an American, he'd probably be more like a Nelson Rockefeller, hardly someone Bush and Co should pop a beer open for.

[Black Dog]

No, I assumed you were refering to the riots I referenced with the burning cars, etc. Geez, how many riots do they have a year over there?

Rioting is as French as the Eiffel Tower, Zola, and brie. If anything the riots in the banlieues are a testament to the success France has had assimilating its immigrants: they riot like they were born there.

[marcinmoka]

No, I assumed you were refering to the riots I referenced with the burning cars, etc. Geez, how many riots do they have a year over there?

Well, there an average of 110 cars burned a day. And 10 attacks on police and fire services. A riot is usually an organized collective burning more than one car. Last fall, there were 10,000 burned. As per riots...there are two principal perpetrating groups;

a) The extreme left, who are generally upper middle class kids who are fuelled by a combined sense of guilt (for their socio-economic stature) and a educational system coupled with modern mythology which glorifies socialist ends (May 68, French Revolution, Che) while ignoring all of their darker points...(someone say Solzhenitsyn....I would be hard pressed to find it in a French translation )

The racaille. Banlieu ridden hooligans who need to play the victim rather than taking any sense of responsibility into their own hands. Difference is, they do not see riots as political "tools", merely a chance to show how tough they are, to steal some cell phones, and a chance to brag to other "banlieues" how rough their neighborhood is, since the more burning cars, the bigger the bragging rights.

If anything the riots in the banlieues are a testament to the success France has had assimilating its immigrants: they riot like they were born there.

They were born there. If anything, it may be a testament to bad parenting (though a big part of that can be atributed to culture and parental socio economic and intellectual status', since males are too often given Carte Blanche to do as they please, and women are kept prisoner). I was there, and I did not see a single female, or older male riot, just a bunch of 15 year old males who dropped out of school, than complain that they can't find jobs and choose to blame it on racism in front of the cameras. But it was more often than not, an excuse to be idiots. There were many, many Arabs who voted for Sarkozy, because they want someone who respected them, who respected hard work and honesty, and avoided treating them like hopeless invalids with voting rights.

It is this group (the racaille) which needs to be dealt with swiftly and severely, because they ruin it for the peace loving majority of immigrants, and so far, the law has been a joke in dealing with them. And Sarkozy will change it.

[guyser]

Drudge had a report up that two Montreal (I think from there) DJ's punked Sarkozy by pretending to be Harper and asked if he would like to come to dinner and he will bring Bush.....it will be a dinner of fools.

Sarkozy hung up.