Left Wing extremist Mark Carney threatens Albertans for wishing to express themselves thru the Democratic process

[West]

Just say on the ctv news that Carney was sending veiled threats to Alberta for wanting to express themselves through a democratic referendum on taking a vote to leave Canada. 

The man is Hitler. Sad

[John Stone]

12 hours ago, West said:

Just say on the ctv news that Carney was sending veiled threats to Alberta for wanting to express themselves through a democratic referendum on taking a vote to leave Canada. 

The man is Hitler. Sad

The NAZI were fascist

Fascism is closer to ultra-right conservatives. 

Light years away from Liberal ideology. 

Gotta hand it to the Premier tho, brilliant strategy in dealing with the ten year disaster of Trudeau-the-younger. 

Surprised by this gaffe by Carney................ arguably his bigger concern is the PQ. 

 

[Barquentine]

12 hours ago, West said:

Carney was sending veiled threats to Alberta

What threats specifically? It's Alberta that's threatening Canada and Smith whose whole career as premier has been made up of threatening Ottawa.

[John Stone]

45 minutes ago, Barquentine said:

What threats specifically? It's Alberta that's threatening Canada and Smith whose whole career as premier has been made up of threatening Ottawa.

............ claims suggested that Carney threatened to invoke the Emergencies Act to prevent Alberta independence. 

 

We all know that in politics it is not important for anything to be 'fact'? 

The play is to get the opposition to deny ..............and deny .............and deny?

Gives it legs?

........... an exaggeration, repeated often enough becomes (political truth). 

Akin to 'perception is reality'. 

[West]

1 hour ago, John Stone said:

The NAZI were fascist

Fascism is closer to ultra-right conservatives. 

Light years away from Liberal ideology. 

Gotta hand it to the Premier tho, brilliant strategy in dealing with the ten year disaster of Trudeau-the-younger. 

Surprised by this gaffe by Carney................ arguably his bigger concern is the PQ. 

 

Wrong. NAZI is socialist. Its right in their name 

1 hour ago, Barquentine said:

What threats specifically? It's Alberta that's threatening Canada and Smith whose whole career as premier has been made up of threatening Ottawa.

Veiled threats. Said something to the effect that Albertans don't want to find out the consequences of their actions to take a vote. The LPOC has a long history of targeting dissenters economies and implementing nonsensical taxes for no other reason than to punish hard working people for having a differing opinion. 

Don't know what specifically this nazi has in store for those who oppose him but those comments do not belong in a democracy. 

Edited May 26 by West

[Michael Hardner]

'NAZIs were leftist' should be a litmus test for being bought into the current populist cult.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_1933_German_federal_election

They beat the Socialists and the Communists... so where was the right wing then ?

 

[John Stone]

41 minutes ago, West said:

Wrong. NAZI is socialist. Its right in their name 

Veiled threats. Said something to the effect that Albertans don't want to find out the consequences of their actions to take a vote. The LPOC has a long history of targeting dissenters economies and implementing nonsensical taxes for no other reason than to punish hard working people for having a differing opinion. 

Don't know what specifically this nazi has in store for those who oppose him but those comments do not belong in a democracy. 

Ah, no.

Around 1920, the German Workers Party changed its name to the ‘National Socialist German Workers Party” (NAZI) party.

Socialist was added to appeal to left-wing, blue-collar workers………. stalking horse.  

It should be remembered that this was shortly after the Russian Revolution ………. Communism was in the ascendency, globally. In fact, the White and Red Russians were fighting a civil war. 

The NAZI were a flavor of fascism – a flavor on steroids!

Adolf’s rise to power was significantly influenced by Mussolini fascism.

Mussolini’s strategic use of political violence combined with legal political activity (ballot) during the Fascists’ seizure of power attracted Hitler’s attention. Inspired by Mussolini, post Beer Hall Putsch where a coup was attempted and failed, Hitler realized that he could gain power legitimately – rather than violence, use the power of the ballot?

Mussolini’s strategy was a key factor in the Nazi party’s success – and led the way to their seizure of power in 1933.

Socialism and it’s big brother, Communism, were absolutely anathema to fascists – exact opposites.

Fascism is often associated with ultra-right wing conservative ideology.

Ever wonder why the U.S. jews are so strongly aligned with the political left?

Their fk'n parents keep tell'n them that the political right cannot be trusted to not enable a 'police' state. 

 

[West]

2 hours ago, John Stone said:

Ah, no.

Around 1920, the German Workers Party changed its name to the ‘National Socialist German Workers Party” (NAZI) party.

Socialist was added to appeal to left-wing, blue-collar workers………. stalking horse.  

It should be remembered that this was shortly after the Russian Revolution ………. Communism was in the ascendency, globally. In fact, the White and Red Russians were fighting a civil war. 

The NAZI were a flavor of fascism – a flavor on steroids!

Adolf’s rise to power was significantly influenced by Mussolini fascism.

Mussolini’s strategic use of political violence combined with legal political activity (ballot) during the Fascists’ seizure of power attracted Hitler’s attention. Inspired by Mussolini, post Beer Hall Putsch where a coup was attempted and failed, Hitler realized that he could gain power legitimately – rather than violence, use the power of the ballot?

Mussolini’s strategy was a key factor in the Nazi party’s success – and led the way to their seizure of power in 1933.

Socialism and it’s big brother, Communism, were absolutely anathema to fascists – exact opposites.

Fascism is often associated with ultra-right wing conservative ideology.

Ever wonder why the U.S. jews are so strongly aligned with the political left?

Their fk'n parents keep tell'n them that the political right cannot be trusted to not enable a 'police' state. 

 

Lol always convenient how socialists "switch sides" to pin hate crimes on conservatives. Just like the Klan "switched sides" when racism is apart of the fabric of the Democrat party. 

We keep being told by the indians how bad Canada is yet when conservatives move to separate they block it. Sad. 

[West]

2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

'NAZIs were leftist' should be a litmus test for being bought into the current populist cult.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_1933_German_federal_election

They beat the Socialists and the Communists... so where was the right wing then ?

 

Revisionist left wing history. The name "socialist" is right in the Nazi name

[John Stone]

1 hour ago, West said:

Lol always convenient how socialists "switch sides" to pin hate crimes on conservatives. Just like the Klan "switched sides" when racism is apart of the fabric of the Democrat party. 

We keep being told by the indians how bad Canada is yet when conservatives move to separate they block it. Sad. 

.............. I hesitate to mention the forced assimilation conducted in Kanadian Residential Schools for several hundred years - too embarrassing and all? 

Is cultural genocide bad? 

Doing God's work? 

 

[West]

Just now, John Stone said:

.............. I hesitate to mention the forced assimilation conducted in Kanadian Residential Schools for several hundred years - too embarrassing and all? 

Is cultural genocide bad? 

Doing God's work? 

 

The Liberal Party of Canada was in power for most of our history. They are majority responsible for what may or may not have happened to the natives.

[John Stone]

Just now, West said:

The Liberal Party of Canada was in power for most of our history. They are majority responsible for what may or may not have happened to the natives.

That's akin to being only a little bit pregnant - won't do, bro.

The temerity of the Kanadians to condemn the U.S. for slavery .......... is beyond belief. 

love that, 'may or may not', bit. 

............. and for fk's sake how many times do I have to tell ya that the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor in 1914. 

[herbie]

Quote

Left Wing extremist Mark Carney

Some people just love showing the whole world just hoe f*cking politically ignorant they are.

[Venandi]

Since I didn't know the answer wrt to fascist/socialist (the lines here are blurred IMO) I asked AI.

Here's the argument that it was socialist:

• Name and rhetoric: The party called itself “National Socialism” and used socialist language — promises of welfare, workers’ benefits, anti-capitalist-sounding attacks on “parasitic” finance and big speculators 

• Early program and appeals to workers: The 1920 NSDAP program contained planks (e.g., profit-sharing, nationalization of certain trusts, social insurance expansion, land reform rhetoric) that read like social-democratic or socialist demands; the party actively tried to win working‑class voters and competed with communists and social democrats.

• Anti-Marxist-but-anti-capitalist posture: Nazis criticized aspects of liberal capitalism (finance, international capital) and proposed a third‑way economic model that subordinated private interests to national goals — framed by some as a distinct, non-fascist social-economic system.

• State economic intervention: The regime used large-scale state planning, labor controls, public works, rearmament spending, and extensive regulation of industry and wages — actions that can look similar to state-directed economies or dirigisme rather than laissez-faire capitalism.

• Redistributional measures: Social programs (public housing, unemployment relief, family subsidies) and efforts to increase real wages for certain groups are cited as evidence the regime pursued popular social policies, not pure capitalist agendas.

• Anti-conservative coalition early on: Early Nazi strategy included co-opting and neutralizing conservative elites rather than fully representing them; some argue the party’s mass‑mobilizing, revolutionary traits differ from traditional conservative authoritarianism.

• Ideological uniqueness: They may claim Nazism is best understood as a sui generis radical racial-nationalist totalitarian movement that doesn’t fit neatly into standard “fascist” or “socialist” categories — a hybrid or novel system centered on racial nationalism and social engineering.

And here's the counter argument that it was fascist... take your pick, evil bast@rds works just fine for simple soldiers...

 

• Name and rhetoric
  • Counter: Labels and propaganda aren’t proof of substance. "National Socialism" was a marketing device; the regime’s policies preserved private ownership and suppressed socialist movements. Rhetoric targeting "finance" typically meant racialized attacks (e.g., antisemitic conspiracy claims), not class‑based critiques leading to worker control.

• Early program and appeals to workers

  • Counter: The 1920 party program contained many rhetorical planks that were later abandoned or selectively implemented. Promises like nationalization had narrow scope and were interpreted to exclude "small property" or were never enacted. The party’s worker outreach was tactical—designed to win votes and undermine left parties—rather than to establish democratic socialism.

• Anti‑Marxist-but‑anti‑capitalist posture

  • Counter: Criticism of particular aspects of capitalism does not equal socialism. Nazis attacked "international" capitalism and finance through nationalist and racial frames; their economic approach was to subordinate capitalism to state and racial goals, not abolish capital or establish worker control.

• State economic intervention

  • Counter: State planning and intervention alone do not make a system socialist (e.g.,wartime dirigisme, state‑led industrial policy in many capitalist countries). Naziintervention preserved private enterprise and profits, used to rearm and achievemilitaristic aims, with firms kept under political control rather than transferred toworkers or communal ownership.

• Redistributional measures

  • Counter: Social policies that improve living standards can coexist with capitalist,authoritarian regimes (to build legitimacy). Nazi welfare and labor programs weretargeted, conditional, and racially exclusive; they aimed at social control and increasedproductivity, not egalitarian redistribution or expansion of democratic worker rights.

• Anti‑conservative coalition early on

  • Counter: Tactical alliances and revolutionary language do not equal ideologicalcommitment to socialism. Once in power the Nazis purged leftists, dismantled unions,co‑opted business and conservative elites, and legalized corporate privileges understate supervision—outcomes contrary to socialist transformation.

• Ideological uniqueness (sui generis)

  • Counter: Recognizing Nazism as distinct doesn’t make it socialist. Comparative political science places Nazism within the fascist family because of its authoritarian single‑party rule, mass mobilization, ultranationalism, violent repression, and fusion of state and corporate power; its racialist goals and anti‑socialist actions are inconsistent with socialist doctrines of class emancipation and collective ownership.

1 minute ago, herbie said:

Some people just love showing the whole world just hoe f*cking politically ignorant they are.

Thanks Herb... time for your nap now.

[herbie]

As one endorses the freedumb of the deluded to express themselves at the expense of everyone else.

[WestCanMan]

11 hours ago, John Stone said:

The NAZI were fascist

Fascism is closer to ultra-right conservatives. 

Light years away from Liberal ideology. 

Gotta hand it to the Premier tho, brilliant strategy in dealing with the ten year disaster of Trudeau-the-younger. 

Surprised by this gaffe by Carney................ arguably his bigger concern is the PQ. 

 

Fascism is close to the LPoC.

They take control of the media, they hate free speech, they're book-burners/internet censors, they're socialists, they like to kill people, they hate-monger people on TV, they freeze people's bank accounts, they force people to carry a health passport, they even take control of people's health choices. 

If we had a more powerful military than the US, Trudeau would have crossed the border in a minute and started killing Jews. 

Edited May 26 by WestCanMan

[West]

26 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Fascism is close to the LPoC.

They take control of the media, they hate free speech, they're book-burners/internet censors, they're socialists, they like to kill people, they hate-monger people on TV, they freeze people's bank accounts, they force people to carry a health passport, they even take control of people's health choices. 

If we had a more powerful military than the US, Trudeau would have crossed the border in a minute and started killing Jews. 

Exactly. Very hitlerian

[West]

6 hours ago, John Stone said:

That's akin to being only a little bit pregnant - won't do, bro.

The temerity of the Kanadians to condemn the U.S. for slavery .......... is beyond belief. 

love that, 'may or may not', bit. 

............. and for fk's sake how many times do I have to tell ya that the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor in 1914. 

The Indians here like to cry about the white man while their leadership rips off their band members, light their communities on fire, and refuse to get a job like a grown ass adult. 

Not all of them.. some are just as disgusted with their own people.. but enough of them

[West]

Carney is sounding more and more like his dictator friends in China. This is what the Chinese did to Taiwan when they expressed they wanted independence. 

Sick man

 

[eyeball]

17 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

'NAZIs were leftist' should be a litmus test for being bought into the current populist cult.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_1933_German_federal_election

They beat the Socialists and the Communists... so where was the right wing then ?

Forming a coalition with the Nazis. 

The German National People's Party - national-conservative monarchists. They were apparently big on authoritarians.

11 hours ago, Venandi said:

Here's the argument that it was socialist:

Whatever else the Nazis were it was even more hard-boiled right-wing conservatives who gave them the majority they needed. 

You gotta hand it to right-wing conservatives, they sure can pick a winner.

Edited May 27 by eyeball

[John Stone]

4 hours ago, eyeball said:

Forming a coalition with the Nazis. 

The German National People's Party - national-conservative monarchists. They were apparently big on authoritarians.

Whatever else the Nazis were it was even more hard-boiled right-wing conservatives who gave them the majority they needed. 

You gotta hand it to right-wing conservatives, they sure can pick a winner.

........ a minor point, but it was the Catholic political  faction of the Weimar republic that allowed the NAZI to be elected to power legitimately and by extension, pass the 'Enabling Act'. 

One passed the NAZI reneged their support for 'said' party and Germany became authoritarian. 

Garden  variety concentration camps sprung up and the Horst Wessel song went to #1 on the NAZI hit parade. 

[John Stone]

13 hours ago, West said:

Exactly. Very hitlerian

................... lol .....some folks are so dependent on  exaggeration that they can't tell the truth without telling ever exaggerated lies. 

[John Johnston]

19 hours ago, West said:

The Liberal Party of Canada was in power for most of our history. They are majority responsible for what may or may not have happened to the natives.

You really need to do some reading or something. Reading is fundamental. 

[West]

Now you got the Manitoba premier, the man who has multiple charges after beating his partner, wagging his finger at Alberta. I suppose if they separate Manitobans may need to actually work to develop their province and not rely on everyone else to give them free stuff 

[Barquentine]

On 5/26/2026 at 10:34 AM, West said:

Veiled threats.

Like what?

 

On 5/26/2026 at 10:34 AM, West said:

Albertans don't want to find out the consequences of their actions to take a vote.

That's just a truth. Letting a small group of malcontents leading them to disaster. That's some bad cosequence.

 

On 5/26/2026 at 10:34 AM, West said:

Don't know what specifically this nazi has in store for those who oppose him but those comments do not belong in a democracy.

What comments? And in what kind of democracy  "those comments do not belong"?