robosmith Posted May 25 Report Posted May 25 Definitely YES and here's why. Try to refute it point by point, otherwise STFU Quote
CdnFox Posted May 25 Report Posted May 25 10 minutes ago, robosmith said: Definitely YES and here's why. Try to refute it point by point, otherwise STFU No, obviously. The left really doesn't understand what fascism or Nazism or any of these things are. They just know that the word is bad and everybody thinks that the word is bad so they use it because they want to express an emotional state rather than accurately describe a circumstance. And we see this all the time. If the left doesn't like something then they call it a genocide or the like because everybody knows genocides are bad so if you call something a genocide it must really be bad. Here they constantly call people on the right fascists and Nazis because everybody knows fascists and Nazis are bad It's cheap and lazy thinking and perfect for a group that has abandoned facts and science quite some time ago unless they think it helps their argument at that moment. LOL i'm sure Robo thought it was highly intelligent and clever tho ROFLMAO! 2 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
gatomontes99 Posted May 25 Report Posted May 25 43 minutes ago, robosmith said: Definitely YES and here's why. Try to refute it point by point, otherwise STFU Fish in a barrel: He claims fascism experts are fleeing the country. That is not true. Liberals left the country and claimed it was because Trump was to authoritarian. Reality is, they moved to a far more authoritarian country ... Canada. GOOGLE AI He claims fascism is an authoritarian that controls the entire government. Yet, Trump has had trouble passing recission bills, the SAVE Act and has abided by all the court rulings. Unlike Biden that just kept giving out handouts to school loan holders despite SCOTUS saying no. GOOGLE AI LDF He uses an incorrect definition of fascism because he likely wanted to tailor it to Trump: GOOGLE AI: Fascism He assumes that fascism is built around an infallable leader. That is not the definition of fascism. Nor is it a trait of Trump's. Trump is widely criticized for poor messaging (at times), poor instincts like supporting red flag laws, weak stance on abortion, and many don't like the war in Iran. He claims fascism is based on an enemy for everything. However, that is a trait of every political system every where. The left (socialism, Marxism, communism) all blame the rich, Democrats blame Trump for everything and the right blames socialists, Marxists, and communists. Then he claims fascism uses violence to get their way. He brings up examples of people being shot by law enforcement for interfering with lawful orders as if that was a political decision. It was not. Further, he leaves out the left's thousands of riots that turned violent since 2016. Does he not remember the ironically named "Summer of Love?" What about the 5 attempts on Trrmp's life? The killing of Charlie Kirk? The attacks on numerous conservative personalities in an attempt to silence them? Who is the fascist again? This last week, Trump and Mark Cuban held a press conference to announce a lower priced drug plan. Mark Cuban vienemantly opposed Trump. Cuban endorsed Harris, went on a media tour extolling her virtues and attacking Trump. If Trump was a fascist, Mark would be dead. instead, Cuban and his Rx company are getting a sweet heart deal to provide discount drugs. 1 Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
CdnFox Posted May 25 Report Posted May 25 31 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: Fish in a barrel: He claims fascism experts are fleeing the country. That is not true. Liberals left the country and claimed it was because Trump was to authoritarian. Reality is, they moved to a far more authoritarian country ... Canada. GOOGLE AI He claims fascism is an authoritarian that controls the entire government. Yet, Trump has had trouble passing recission bills, the SAVE Act and has abided by all the court rulings. Unlike Biden that just kept giving out handouts to school loan holders despite SCOTUS saying no. GOOGLE AI LDF He uses an incorrect definition of fascism because he likely wanted to tailor it to Trump: GOOGLE AI: Fascism He assumes that fascism is built around an infallable leader. That is not the definition of fascism. Nor is it a trait of Trump's. Trump is widely criticized for poor messaging (at times), poor instincts like supporting red flag laws, weak stance on abortion, and many don't like the war in Iran. He claims fascism is based on an enemy for everything. However, that is a trait of every political system every where. The left (socialism, Marxism, communism) all blame the rich, Democrats blame Trump for everything and the right blames socialists, Marxists, and communists. Then he claims fascism uses violence to get their way. He brings up examples of people being shot by law enforcement for interfering with lawful orders as if that was a political decision. It was not. Further, he leaves out the left's thousands of riots that turned violent since 2016. Does he not remember the ironically named "Summer of Love?" What about the 5 attempts on Trrmp's life? The killing of Charlie Kirk? The attacks on numerous conservative personalities in an attempt to silence them? Who is the fascist again? This last week, Trump and Mark Cuban held a press conference to announce a lower priced drug plan. Mark Cuban vienemantly opposed Trump. Cuban endorsed Harris, went on a media tour extolling her virtues and attacking Trump. If Trump was a fascist, Mark would be dead. instead, Cuban and his Rx company are getting a sweet heart deal to provide discount drugs. Cool! now do flat earthers Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
eyeball Posted May 25 Report Posted May 25 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: The left really doesn't understand what fascism or Nazism or any of these things are While you chirp...it's left wing! LMAO! 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
gatomontes99 Posted May 25 Report Posted May 25 15 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Cool! now do flat earthers Hmm...how about the airplane theory? They seem to think that pilots have to continuously push forward to keep from flying off into space, if the world was round. But it's flat, so pilots don't have to push down. Reality: the earth is round and the atmosphere is uninformly dense around the sphere. The wings,engines and elevator are set to fly at a consistent atmospheric pressure. as atmosphere conforms to the curvature of the earth, the aircraft follows. Wait, was that a rhetorical question disguised as a joke about @robosmith's cult like following of a perpetually inaccurate and conspiratorial lwnj that happens to post videos on YouTube? My bad. 1 Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
gatomontes99 Posted May 25 Report Posted May 25 21 minutes ago, Venandi said: Yes, definitely, they are all fascists, each and everyone.... you're right again. Thanks for your input. Now, have some hot chocolate, eat a cookie, take a nap, and STFU. Don't forget the cucumber or zucchini or something. 1 Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
John Johnston Posted May 25 Report Posted May 25 America is now a Kleptocracy. Trump is not smart enough to be a Facist. Quote
robosmith Posted May 25 Author Report Posted May 25 1 minute ago, Venandi said: Yes, definitely, they are all fascists, each and everyone.... you're right again. Thanks for your input. Now, have some hot chocolate, eat a cookie, take a nap, and STFU. YOU FIRST. 41 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: Fish in a barrel: He claims fascism experts are fleeing the country. That is not true. Liberals left the country and claimed it was because Trump was to authoritarian. Reality is, they moved to a far more authoritarian country ... Canada. GOOGLE AI You have ZERO evidence Canada is "a far more authoritarian country" than the US under Trump. Quote Objective assessments do not support the claim that Canada is a more authoritarian country than the United States. Global indices on democracy and civil liberties consistently rank Canada significantly higher than the United States, classifying Canada as a "full democracy" while rating the U.S. as a "flawed democracy". It helps if you can spell LMAO: 41 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: Quote have experts in fascism flex the usa Quote These academics, who have spent their careers studying the rise of far-right movements, view the current U.S. political climate as a "democratic emergency" rather than standard political polarization. 41 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: He claims fascism is an authoritarian that controls the entire government. Yet, Trump has had trouble passing recission bills, the SAVE Act and has abided by all the court rulings. No, he HAS NOT. Quote Federal courts have identified noncompliance with judicial directives by the Trump administration in dozens of lawsuits. Analyses of court records reveal dozens of instances where agencies and administration officials have been found to ignore or flout active court rulings, particularly concerning immigration policies and impoundment of funds The FACT is lower court rulings are the LAW until the SCOTUS says otherwise. 41 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: Unlike Biden that just kept giving out handouts to school loan holders despite SCOTUS saying no. You're LYING. Biden continued the program under a different law not nullified by SCOTUS. 41 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: GOOGLE AI LDF He uses an incorrect definition of fascism because he likely wanted to tailor it to Trump: GOOGLE AI: Fascism He's using the same definition as your AI link comparing Trump to Hitler and Musolini, LIAR. 41 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: He assumes that fascism is built around an infallable leader. That is not the definition of fascism. Nor is it a trait of Trump's. Trump is widely criticized for poor messaging (at times), poor instincts like supporting red flag laws, weak stance on abortion, and many don't like the war in Iran. Your cited definition is the same. 41 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: He claims fascism is based on an enemy for everything. However, that is a trait of every political system every where. The left (socialism, Marxism, communism) all blame the rich, Democrats blame Trump for everything and the right blames socialists, Marxists, and communists. ^ALL FASCISTS 41 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: Then he claims fascism uses violence to get their way. He brings up examples of people being shot by law enforcement for interfering with lawful orders as if that was a political decision. It was not. Further, he leaves out the left's thousands of riots that turned violent since 2016. Does he not remember the ironically named "Summer of Love?" What about the 5 attempts on Trrmp's life? The killing of Charlie Kirk? The attacks on numerous conservative personalities in an attempt to silence them? Who is the fascist again? The killings to which you refer are NOT government ACTIONS LIAR. 41 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: This last week, Trump and Mark Cuban held a press conference to announce a lower priced drug plan. Mark Cuban vienemantly opposed Trump. Cuban endorsed Harris, went on a media tour extolling her virtues and attacking Trump. If Trump was a fascist, Mark would be dead. instead, Cuban and his Rx company are getting a sweet heart deal to provide discount drugs. So what? Trump does not have Hitler's total FASCIST power, but he is working on that. Probably Trump is too old to get it. Quote
BeaverFever Posted May 25 Report Posted May 25 2 hours ago, robosmith said: Definitely YES and here's why. Try to refute it point by point, otherwise STFU There is an interesting piece ou recently about people who fall in ljne with authoritarian 2 hours ago, CdnFox said: The left really doesn't understand what fascism or Nazism or any of these things are. They just know that the word is bad and everybody thinks that the word is bad so they use it because they want to express an emotional state rather than accurately describe a circumstance. You steal all our best lyrics. This is what we’ve said about the right for YEARS. You still don’t know what “fascism” is 1 Quote
Deluge Posted May 25 Report Posted May 25 (edited) 3 hours ago, robosmith said: Definitely YES and here's why. Try to refute it point by point, otherwise STFU Why don't you list the points, you lazy f*ck? Nobody's interested in watching another democultist listen to himself talk. Edited May 25 by Deluge Quote
CdnFox Posted May 25 Report Posted May 25 1 hour ago, eyeball said: While you chirp...it's left wing! Chirp? Are you hearing random sounds again? Quote LMAO! I accept your surrender 1 hour ago, robosmith said: YOU FIRST. You have ZERO evidence Canada is "a far more authoritarian country" than the US under Trump. It helps if you can spell LMAO: No, he HAS NOT. The FACT is lower court rulings are the LAW until the SCOTUS says otherwise. You're LYING. Biden continued the program under a different law not nullified by SCOTUS. He's using the same definition as your AI link comparing Trump to Hitler and Musolini, LIAR. Your cited definition is the same. ^ALL FASCISTS The killings to which you refer are NOT government ACTIONS LIAR. So what? Trump does not have Hitler's total FASCIST power, but he is working on that. Probably Trump is too old to get it. So you're saying you admit you were wrong and you regret it? Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
gatomontes99 Posted May 25 Report Posted May 25 2 hours ago, robosmith said: You have ZERO evidence Canada is "a far more authoritarian country" than the US under Trump. All you do is provide a link to AI saying LWNJs say Canada is better. Meanwhile it actually provided specific examples of how Canada is more authoritarian. And, you couldn't even defend his false claim that these people were experts. 2 hours ago, robosmith said: He's using the same definition as your AI link comparing Trump to Hitler and Musolini, LIAR. No. He's using a twisted definition as demonstrated in his 4 key points. 2 hours ago, robosmith said: 3 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: No, he HAS NOT. Yes he has. He had injunctions. 2 hours ago, robosmith said: You're LYING. Biden continued the program under a different law not nullified by SCOTUS. Mmm...sounds like an excuse for disobeying the court. 2 hours ago, robosmith said: ^ALL FASCISTS Yeah. No. That is like saying all fascist breath and drink water so Trump is a fascist because he breathes and drinks water. 2 hours ago, robosmith said: The killings to which you refer are NOT government ACTIONS LIAR. Ok, so then they had nothing to do with a fascist government. 2 hours ago, robosmith said: So what? Trump does not have Hitler's total FASCIST power, but he is working on that. Probably Trump is too old to get it. Aaaaannnnddddd...you admit defeat. 2 Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
John Stone Posted May 26 Report Posted May 26 Arguably Trump is not principled enough to be a fascist. 😅 That said, his ‘nativist-populist’ could easily morph into fascism.😨 That is, IF the so-called people (Congress) allow it.👍 Holy fk, Batman - they HAVE allowed it?😧 Afraid so, Robin. …………… inform the Commissioner to light the Bat-Signal. 1 Quote
Barquentine Posted May 26 Report Posted May 26 16 hours ago, CdnFox said: It's cheap and lazy thinking and perfect for a group that has abandoned facts and science quite some time ago unless they think it helps their argument at that moment. Talk about cheap and lazy thinking! Every accusation a confession from you. 16 hours ago, CdnFox said: a group that has abandoned facts and science quite some time ago This from the guys that thing global warmin is a hoax, and that support anti-science imbeciles like RFK and Trump. 1 Quote
John Stone Posted May 26 Report Posted May 26 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Barquentine said: Talk about cheap and lazy thinking! Every accusation a confession from you. This from the guys that thing global warmin is a hoax, and that support anti-science imbeciles like RFK and Trump. FWIW: Trump's administration enacted regulatory rollbacks, withdrawals from international commitments, and public messaging that undermined climate science, reinforcing impressions that Trump's stance treated climate risk as illegitimate. Edited May 26 by John Stone 1 Quote
Legato Posted May 26 Report Posted May 26 36 minutes ago, John Stone said: FWIW: Trump's administration enacted regulatory rollbacks, withdrawals from international commitments, and public messaging that undermined climate science, reinforcing impressions that Trump's stance treated climate risk as illegitimate. It is rather difficult to undermine something that only exists in the minds of those with weak deductive acumen abilities. Quote
John Stone Posted May 26 Report Posted May 26 19 minutes ago, Legato said: It is rather difficult to undermine something that only exists in the minds of those with weak deductive acumen abilities. ......... u sound like ur speaking from experience, bro. 😁 If ya don't defer to science, who do u believe? Political hacks with an agenda? BSc(BS) Say it ain't true, bro. 😨 1 Quote
Fluffypants Posted May 26 Report Posted May 26 (edited) Lets play this game. His BS is like Astrology its vague enough that you can point to any leader as a fascist. We can present examples of what Obama did and Biden did that would make them fascist. Fascism is funny because no one can really define it and people know its bad so therefore anyone can be a fascist. Playing a video of some facebook loser that no one but Robo watches isn't proof of anything. He is an expert on nothing except maybe extorting old people by selling them crap they don't need. His research consisted of him going on Google putting in the search bar "Why is Trump a fascist". Not why isn't Trump fascist as well. He at no point ever signals he looked at the other side and stay within his echo chamber. He counts on people like Robo to slurp it up. I looked at his other videos and the vast majority are all Orange Man Bad. Most of the time here I don't present ultra biased views from my echo chamber. I actually try to find the news stories from main stream news organizations and try to stay away from Fox so Robo and his ilk can't call it Faux News. See the difference between me and most liberals is that I can admit Fox has a conservative bent but Robo will tell me with a straight face that MSNOW is unbiased and real news. Edited May 26 by Fluffypants Quote
Legato Posted May 26 Report Posted May 26 40 minutes ago, John Stone said: ......... u sound like ur speaking from experience, bro. 😁 If ya don't defer to science, who do u believe? Political hacks with an agenda? BSc(BS) Say it ain't true, bro. 😨 People bandy the word science around without knowing anything about science, and that's giving them credit for having a poor understanding of the English language. 2 Quote
Nationalist Posted May 26 Report Posted May 26 (edited) 47 minutes ago, John Stone said: ......... u sound like ur speaking from experience, bro. 😁 If ya don't defer to science, who do u believe? Political hacks with an agenda? BSc(BS) Say it ain't true, bro. 😨 Wait a second there..."science" has determined that climate change is not something we, as the species who dominate this planet, need be terribly concerned with. That we are not all gonna die in the foreseeable future and that we, as a global population, have much more pressing issues to deal with. So...you can pick on the disabled guy, if that's how far you're willing to stoop, but the climate thing is NOT a serious issue right now. Have a nice day. Edited May 26 by Nationalist Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Deluge Posted May 26 Report Posted May 26 17 hours ago, BeaverFever said: You steal all our best lyrics. This is what we’ve said about the right for YEARS. You still don’t know what “fascism” is Fascism is exalting one race or group above the other. You a$$holes have been doing that since before you fought the north to keep your slaves. Quote
CdnFox Posted May 26 Report Posted May 26 3 hours ago, Barquentine said: Talk about cheap and lazy thinking! Yes, i was. It's the kind of thing we see from the left all the time these days. Instead of making a reasonable counter argument they go with this kind of cheap and lazy insult instead. I wish i had another example handy to show you Quote Every accusation a confession from you. Oh there you go!! Well done, thanks! Quote This from the guys that thing global warmin is a hoax, and that support anti-science imbeciles like RFK and Trump. Ahhh when you get backed into a corner, always try to lie your way out That's the leftie motto I have never ever said global warming is a hoax in the slightest. I have ALWAYS said it's real and it's a concern. What i've said is that it's a scam to claim that it's a 'Crisis' or that any of the proposed 'solutions' would be effective at all. But you've got to lie because the truth doesn't serve you. Rather than make a rational argument you've got to lie about something i said and argue with that You couldn't have made my point for me any better than that Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
CdnFox Posted May 26 Report Posted May 26 2 hours ago, John Stone said: FWIW: Trump's administration enacted regulatory rollbacks, withdrawals from international commitments, and public messaging that undermined climate science, reinforcing impressions that Trump's stance treated climate risk as illegitimate. That's TERRIBLE! Lets totally blow him out of the water - go ahead and post the actual science that proves he's completely wrong!!! Go ahead! Teach him a lesson! Any minute now.... Uhh... john?.... 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
John Stone Posted May 26 Report Posted May 26 27 minutes ago, CdnFox said: That's TERRIBLE! Lets totally blow him out of the water - go ahead and post the actual science that proves he's completely wrong!!! Go ahead! Teach him a lesson! Any minute now.... Uhh... john?.... Jan 2025 – U.S. withdraws from Paris Accord Feb 2025 – Fed Climate Date Purged from Fed websites Mar 2025 – EPA Environnemental Justice Program Dismantled Apr. 2025- FY 2026 Budget Proposes Deep 27 percent cut to NOAA May 2025 – Climate Monitoring Centers Shut Jun 2025 – Mauna LOA Observatory Funding Terminated (measured atmospheric CO2) July 2025 – Repeal of Greenhouse Gas health risk finding – NCA web portal removed, 400 scientists fired. ........... science probes, it doesn't prove, bro. I think we can all agree that by removing the 'probes' we make it a bit more difficult to 'prove', tho.? In any event, this be more apropos than 'blowing him out of the water' .................this be the Trump administration ...... logical in pursuit of an agenda, destructive and calculated But more the pity are those that are consciously ignorant? Ya know anyone like that? 😁 Quote
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