Alberta Separatist group ordered to remove voter database from website” Excerpt From “Separatist group ordered to remove Alberta voter database from website

[LinkSoul60]

3 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Oh look, the "scream at clouds" kid with the mangina is calling me a complainer 😂

I'm not complaining about anything....life is good.  My comment is that you're too chickenshît to do anything other than complain every day, like the handful or so of others who do likewise.  

[paxamericana]

5 hours ago, CdnFox said:

No, that would involve shoving a few crayons up my nose and possibly a concussion, and i'm out of crayons and am wearing a helmet. 

Well there’s plenty of crayon sniffing already in Canada, there’s less of that as a state. Your helmet is made of chinesium so it’s not going to hold up anyhow. You can go from getting shit on by America to shitting on the rest of the world.

[WestCanMan]

4 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

I'm not complaining about anything....life is good.  My comment is that you're too chickenshît to do anything other than complain every day, like the handful or so of others who do likewise.  

I think you're gonna find out the hard way about Alberta, Linkie. 

The worse-off this country gets, the more separatists there are gonna be, and by no means is anything getting better in Canada. 

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, Moonbox said:

Do you think it's reasonable to argue against how you're telling us you're feeling in any given moment, as you've done here?

I don't think 'reason' is one of the factors you consider when you post here. 

 

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You don't have to answer.  It's a rhetorical question.  

You misspelled 'retarded' 

[LinkSoul60]

32 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

I think you're gonna find out the hard way about Alberta, Linkie. 

The worse-off this country gets, the more separatists there are gonna be, and by no means is anything getting better in Canada. 

Alberta isn't going anywhere. Last poll I saw there was only ~28% that would vote to leave and ~67% vote to stay. Of the 28% I'd guess there's probably a percentage in there that just want to send a message to Ottawa and ultimately would not vote to leave when they thought it through. Give them a pipeline and it will be the best country ever.

[WestCanMan]

8 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Alberta isn't going anywhere. Last poll I saw there was only ~28% that would vote to leave and ~67% vote to stay. Of the 28% I'd guess there's probably a percentage in there that just want to send a message to Ottawa and ultimately would not vote to leave when they thought it through. Give them a pipeline and it will be the best country ever.

1) Polls are completely meaningless at this point. I wouldn't line a birdcage with them

2) Timing is everything. If things in Canada start to get noticeably better, then the chances of separation will get lower. But if the general trend here continues, and things continue to get worse, we could easily be looking at a number well north of 51%. And I can't even see how Carney could turn things around now. He's just so anti-Canadian that he'd probably rather die. 

[TreeBeard]

Here are the people that are pushing separation.  A lot of fake YouTube channels that pretend to be Canadian.  
 

 

[Goddess]

8 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Polls are completely meaningless at this point. I wouldn't line a birdcage with them

True.

I'm not sure a lot of Alberta separatists would respond to a poll.  There's a lot of talk on the Alberta lawyer podcasts of people who didn't want to sign the referendum petition because they felt the Liberals would hack the list the way they did to the Convoy and harass them and freeze bank accounts, etc.  They're waiting til the actual vote.

 

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, paxamericana said:

Well there’s plenty of crayon sniffing already in Canada, there’s less of that as a state. 

Are you unfamiliar with California? 

[Goddess]

14 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

Here are the people that are pushing separation.  A lot of fake YouTube channels that pretend to be Canadian.  
 

 

Nobody who is following the Alberta separation movement is watching those videos.  They're watching the town hall meetings, they're following the lawyers, they're following Mitch Sylvester.  They're following official websites.

CBC was hoping for local villains, they got overseas grifters instead.

I mean, YOU'RE actually voting people into power who CSIS affirms are captured by China, who used their influence over the media to convince you that China's top pick for PM was the right choice.  Maybe CBC should investigate that?  Maybe find out WHY China desperately wants a Liberal government in Canada?

Is it at all possible to you that maybe, just maybe, Albertans have legitimate grievances that Ottawa refuses to address for decades?  Or it's more plausible to you that some random YouTuber in the Netherlands is leading a whole province astray?  LOL 🤣

Seriously, you all just got conned by CTV in the OP of this thread and you STILL don't get that it's all government propaganda?  🤣

[Goddess]

Alberta Separatism Is Rising Because Ottawa Destroyed Canada’s Economic Balance | Armstrong Economics

I have repeatedly stated that Alberta has every economic reason to separate from Canada. The province has effectively become the financial engine forced to subsidize a federal structure increasingly hostile toward energy production itself. Alberta possesses enormous oil and gas reserves, generates massive export revenues, and contributes disproportionately to federal finances, yet Ottawa continues imposing carbon taxes, pipeline restrictions, emissions caps, and climate policies directly damaging Alberta’s economy.

At some point, productive regions begin asking why they should remain attached to governments actively undermining their future. This is not unique to Canada. I have seen this pattern repeatedly throughout history. Once centralized governments become too disconnected from regional economic realities, fragmentation pressures emerge naturally. Catalonia, Scotland, northern Italy, Brexit, these movements all stem from economic resentment mixed with political alienation.

Ottawa’s policies increasingly resemble the same anti-energy ideology that destroyed competitiveness across Europe. Canada is attacking the productive sectors that generate actual wealth while expanding bureaucracy, debt, regulation, and redistribution. Alberta’s oil industry has been treated as though it were politically inconvenient despite being one of the primary pillars supporting Canada’s national economy.

The ECM has projected increasing political fragmentation globally because confidence in centralized governments is collapsing. As living standards weaken, taxes rise, and debt expands, people begin identifying more regionally than nationally. They stop believing national institutions represent their interests.

The sovereignty movement in Alberta will continue growing so long as Ottawa pursues policies viewed as economically punitive toward the province. Court orders and database removals may slow organizational efforts temporarily, but they do not eliminate the underlying resentment driving the movement itself.

[Goddess]

SK separation sentiment is even higher than in Alberta and there's talk of joining together to leave.  SK knows that if Alberta separates, they are Ottawa's new piggy bank.

2025.04.05_Sovereignty.pdf
 

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Indeed, if the Liberals were to form the next government, approximately three-in-10 in Alberta (30%) and Saskatchewan (33%) say they would vote to leave federation

 

This Triangle of Insanity rules over all of Canada, and is ruining itself & the rest of Canada.

[Goddess]

This was the scene of dropping off the signatures! 😁

Mitch was just going to drop them off himself, but everybody wanted to go, too. 🤣

 

 

[LinkSoul60]

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

1) Polls are completely meaningless at this point. I wouldn't line a birdcage with them

2) Timing is everything. If things in Canada start to get noticeably better, then the chances of separation will get lower. But if the general trend here continues, and things continue to get worse, we could easily be looking at a number well north of 51%. And I can't even see how Carney could turn things around now. He's just so anti-Canadian that he'd probably rather die. 

1) If you had a poll that had the conservatives in the lead or CBC having it's worst viewer ratings ever you'd post it as gospel.

2) Where do you get this 'general trend' from?

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, TreeBeard said:

Here are the people that are pushing separation.  A lot of fake YouTube channels that pretend to be Canadian.  
 

 

Wow. What a load of epic BS.

The most "Albertan" people I know are the most diehard separatists. 

The people supporting the LPoC are mainly Hamas supporters, they support the ayatollah and the IRGC, they denigrate white people, they propagate false BLM narratives and say "mostly peaceful protests/defund police", they slander 'cisgender' people, promote racial/religious hatred, they are anti-Semitic, they slander Christians, they promote trade with China over trade with the US, they favour oil from Saudi Arabia and Christian-slaughtering Nigeria over Alberta oil, they even support foreign interests over Canadian interests when it comes to global warming BS, etc. 

It's honestly hard to think of a way that LPoC supporters put born-and-raised Canadians ahead of any other group on earth, aside from maybe nth-gen Americans.

[WestCanMan]

5 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

1) If you had a poll that had the conservatives in the lead or CBC having it's worst viewer ratings ever you'd post it as gospel.

That's like saying that I'll believe in unicorns or flying pigs when I see one. 

I will tell you right now what the polls will say for the next 3 years... The LPoC will lead comfortably, PP will be deeply unpopular, and regardless of what happens 6 months or 3 months before the next election:

• the LPoC will be up by "5-7%", book it, all throughout the last month before the next election, and then on the very last weekend, for no apparent reason, the polls will switch to have the LPoC only up by 1-1.5%.

That's what happened the first time Trudeau won, the first time Trump won, the 2nd time Trudeau won, when Trump lost to Biden, when Trudeau won the 3rd time, when Trump won in 2024, and when Carney won in 2025. Every single one of those election seasons had the exact same polling data for the last month... The liberal party was up by 5-7% for 29 days, then the lead magically dropped to 1.5% for the last two days. 

When CBC et al showed Poilievre up by 20% or whatever in late 2024, that was just so that they could could show a massive swing in popularity when the Libs unveiled their new leader. 

The "Look how fast Carney is gaining popularity!!!! Everybody LOVES this guy!" narrative was pre-ordained. It was all a con. Just remember that at the time Carney was "gaining popularity", all that he was doing was getting caught on serious lies about 5 times, and implementing previously unpopular Poilievre policies. You know, "PP, the guy with no good ideas or policies!!" according to the CBC. 

Remember how, right after the election was over, the CBC started their "Poilievre is unpopular with Canadians because he ius too negative!" narrative?

He was at 70% in the polls in Dec 2024 but was suddenly seen as negative by "everyone" in March 2025, and for what reason...? I'm not buyin' it. And not just because I know that everything CBC says is a lie, but because no one gets 70% support and then drops to 30% in 3 months unless a video comes out of them punching kittens. 

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2) Where do you get this 'general trend' from?

From our debt rising at rates that even Trudeau is jealous of, inflation rising, food prices rising, gas prices rising, trade with the US plummeting, businesses leaving our country, job losses, growing lines at food banks, Carney's promises all turning into lies, Canada suddenly being a pro-ayatollah nation, etc. 

If you told me that Canadian news channels would be spewing pro-ayatollah propaganda, even as late as Dec of 2025, I never would have believed you, and I had less respect for the CBC back then than I did for anal warts. 

I honestly thought that there was no way for CBC to reach a new low, and then they plummeted through rock-bottom like an overachieving GBU-57.

What's left to get worse, Link? We even made India dislike us, and India doesn't dislike anyone aside from shitty motha-fargone Pakistan. It's just us and Pakistan on their shit-list. Go figger - they hate us from clear across the planet now, and are neutral to all the countries in between... Hmmm...

The only thing that has gotten significantly better here is the fact that Fentanyl deaths are lower, and do you care to guess why that is? I know you don't. You would rather die than admit to it. 

[CdnFox]

9 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Just saying if you live in a glass house...don't throw rocks.

Harper didn't get a minority and then peg his way to a majority. The people trusted him with the majority right off the bat and it's very different than this situation.

But you seem to be being critical of harper here are you saying that what harper did is right and therefore what carney has done is right? Or are you saying what harper did is wrong and therefore we're currently has done is wrong?

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, LinkSoul60 said:

1) If you had a poll that had the conservatives in the lead or CBC having it's worst viewer ratings ever you'd post it as gospel.

 

I don't think that's ever happened here. Even when poilievre was considerably ahead nobody suggested it was gospel or that it was precise.

I've said it doesn't times that in between elections the big value of a pool is in watching them over time to determine trends and not the accuracy of any individual pole itself.

You just have to make up shit at random to make yourself feel better

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2) Where do you get this 'general trend' from?

From reality.

The general trend over the last 10 years has been that Canada has become worse and worse and worse across almost every Metric.

And that trend continues. We are more in debt. Our economy is worse. Affordability is at an all-time low despite the fact that carney is insisting it's the best in decades 🙄 Our crime situation is bad and our trade and trade deals are completely trashed. Are automotive and lumber Industries are collapsing we are still experiencing net losses in investment. Another auto plant just closed

So that is the trend. Every year the liberals are in power things get a little worse

[TreeBeard]

I wonder who might be the money behind the fake YouTubers. 
 

A network of inauthentic YouTube channels posing as Albertan voices is spreading misleading content about separation and U.S. annexation, reaching tens of millions of viewers, according to a new report.

The analysis by the Canadian Digital Media Research Network found roughly 20 channels working in a co-ordinated way, amassing nearly 40 million views while presenting themselves as grassroots commentary from within the province.

Lead author Chris Ross says the videos are not organic and appear to be part of a systemized operation using repeated scripts, shared clips and near-identical titles posted across multiple channels at the same time — all signs of co-ordination rather than independent creators.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/article/co-ordinated-network-of-fake-youtube-channels-pushing-alberta-secession-and-us-annexation-narrative-report-finds/

 

 

[ExFlyer]

6 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Harper didn't get a minority and then peg his way to a majority. The people trusted him with the majority right off the bat and it's very different than this situation.

But you seem to be being critical of harper here are you saying that what harper did is right and therefore what carney has done is right? Or are you saying what harper did is wrong and therefore we're currently has done is wrong?

Hey LOSER...suck it up...you have been second place for 13+ years and your MP''s are realizing they are on the wrong side LOL

Not critical at all...just showing facts

Nope, just saying Harper did the same,.... actually more. 

[Moonbox]

9 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

A network of inauthentic YouTube channels posing as Albertan voices is spreading misleading content about separation and U.S. annexation, reaching tens of millions of viewers, according to a new report.

Subtext:

The algorithm feeds these directly to gullble rubes, who happily drink it up.  

[LinkSoul60]

10 hours ago, CdnFox said:

I don't think that's ever happened here. Even when poilievre was considerably ahead nobody suggested it was gospel or that it was precise.

I've said it doesn't times that in between elections the big value of a pool is in watching them over time to determine trends and not the accuracy of any individual pole itself.

You just have to make up shit at random to make yourself feel better

From reality.

The general trend over the last 10 years has been that Canada has become worse and worse and worse across almost every Metric.

And that trend continues. We are more in debt. Our economy is worse. Affordability is at an all-time low despite the fact that carney is insisting it's the best in decades 🙄 Our crime situation is bad and our trade and trade deals are completely trashed. Are automotive and lumber Industries are collapsing we are still experiencing net losses in investment. Another auto plant just closed

So that is the trend. Every year the liberals are in power things get a little worse

I made up what?  It's fact that you would be jumping up and down touting any poll that had conservatives in the lead. You're the conservatives biggest fanboy out here and still like to point out what percentage of the vote conservatives got the last election, as if it was some sort of win. You'd be on top of your top world if a poll had conservatives or Poilievre doing better than what they are.

I'm not going to try and defend Trudeau's economic record, but your disregard for the reality because of your biased views used to be head scratching, now it's just expected.  Why do you think our auto and softwood lumber industries are struggling...  Do you think it might have something do with 50%, 35% and 25% tariffs, that I'm sure Poilievre would have likely already agreed to, or do you think there is another reason the industries are struggling?  

 

[TreeBeard]

24 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

Subtext:

The algorithm feeds these directly to gullble rubes, who happily drink it up.  

Absolutely.  The separatist types are clearly also the weirdos who believe a lot of conspiracies. 
 

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Kenney considering legal action after being doxxed by separatists.

 

https://globalnews.ca/news/11831942/dangerous-violation-jason-kenney-alleged-centurion-project-leak/

 

Now, Jason Kenney says he’s considering legal action after his address was allegedly shared at a meeting by the separatist group — which is run by the man who boasted about leading the charge to get the former premier ousted from office.

“I understand that my personal information, including my home address, was shared publicly on a screen at a recent Alberta separatist event,” Kenney said in a statement posted to his social media Tuesday afternoon.

 

 

 

Edited May 6 by TreeBeard

[Goddess]

35 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

Now, Jason Kenney says he’s considering legal action after his address was allegedly shared at a meeting by the separatist group

This info?

https://whitepagescanada.ca/ab/calgary/jason-kenney_511816/

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Hey LOSER...suck it up...

LOLOL  so you can't answer the question   So you agree what carney is doing is terrible    
I thought so. Yet you still support him  

When you grow up you'll realize that's really a bad thing and would make you a terrible person as an adult.  Well.. hopefully you'll realize anyway