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[gatomontes99]

6 hours ago, Hodad said:

Definitely we should outlaw illegal immigration. If we make illegal immigration illegal then no one will try to come to the US. 

Gee whiz Beaver, we did do that. But some dumbasș decided not to enforce the law so it was as if the law didn't exist. 

[Hodad]

4 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

Gee whiz Beaver, we did do that. But some dumbasș decided not to enforce the law so it was as if the law didn't exist. 

A. The law was enforced, you just want a different law.

B. A sweeping revision to the law on the verge of passing before Trump killed it to keep the issue for his campaign. 

C. Neither of those facts change the appetite--the desperation--of people to come here by whatever means possible. And therefore it's irrelevant to your faux concern about the violence and sexual violence inflicted on these desperate people. 

Bottom line is that an uncontrolled border is a problem. People coming here to work is not a problem--in fact we benefit significantly from it. We should be looking for smarter ways to manage the situation, not xenophobic propaganda. 

[gatomontes99]

8 minutes ago, Hodad said:

A. The law was enforced, you just want a different law.

Biden did not enforce the law. Trump is.

 Migrant encounters at the U.S.-Mexico border are at their lowest level in more than 50 years.

And before you use the b.s. stat that Biden deported more people, Biden's deportations were almost all turn backs. We have far fewer turn backs today because we have 1.25 million fewer encounters per year. 

12 minutes ago, Hodad said:

B. A sweeping revision to the law on the verge of passing before Trump killed it to keep the issue for his campaign. 

I have done breakdowns of that law. It was absolute shit. All it really did was pass through more money to illegal aliens. The enforcement mechanisms on it were crap. It did nothing to facilitate legal immigration. It was just more wasted money. 

We did not need the law to slow illegal immigration. Pass through illegal aliens dropped to 0 most months. Asylum claims are down significantly and over 3 million illegal aliens have been deported. 

15 minutes ago, Hodad said:

C. Neither of those facts change the appetite--the desperation--of people to come here by whatever means possible. And therefore it's irrelevant to your faux concern about the violence and sexual violence inflicted on these desperate people. 

Good gawd man. You claim to be concerned with their well being. When confronted with the fact that these people are being raped, enslaved or are just evil aholes (like in the article above) you just shrug it off. 

The biggest threat to illegal aliens is the policies that make them think that it is ok to violate our laws. 

18 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Bottom line is that an uncontrolled border is a problem. People coming here to work is not a problem--in fact we benefit significantly from it. We should be looking for smarter ways to manage the situation, not xenophobic propaganda. 

You just spent several paragraphs aggrandizing the virtues of illegal immigration and denying what the Biden admin did and now this 180? 

[Deluge]

13 hours ago, Hodad said:

I'm not mad. It's just a really stupid thread. Like creating a thread about how someone with red hair committed a crime and thinking it's a good argument to ban people with red hair. 

You see, stupid, you can't just say "red head" and expect that to be equivalent to a piece of shit illegal alien from the third world. You need a lot more specifics. 

For example: 

Scour the Internet and find all the red headed illegal aliens that smashed an innocent person's skull in, or set an innocent woman on fire in the subway and watched her burn. 

Get busy. 

 

 

[User]

3 hours ago, Hodad said:

A. The law was enforced, you just want a different law.

B. A sweeping revision to the law on the verge of passing before Trump killed it to keep the issue for his campaign. 

C. Neither of those facts change the appetite--the desperation--of people to come here by whatever means possible. And therefore it's irrelevant to your faux concern about the violence and sexual violence inflicted on these desperate people. 

Bottom line is that an uncontrolled border is a problem. People coming here to work is not a problem--in fact we benefit significantly from it. We should be looking for smarter ways to manage the situation, not xenophobic propaganda. 

Holy crap. Without a doubt, @Hodad is an absolute cowardly liar. 100% no regard for the truth. 

[Hodad]

3 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

Biden did not enforce the law. Trump is.

 Migrant encounters at the U.S.-Mexico border are at their lowest level in more than 50 years.

And before you use the b.s. stat that Biden deported more people, Biden's deportations were almost all turn backs. We have far fewer turn backs today because we have 1.25 million fewer encounters per year. 

Like saying you have a better umbrella because it's not raining as often. -- Biden did enforce the law. You're selling fiction. 

 

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I have done breakdowns of that law. It was absolute shit. All it really did was pass through more money to illegal aliens. The enforcement mechanisms on it were crap. It did nothing to facilitate legal immigration. It was just more wasted money. 

We did not need the law to slow illegal immigration. Pass through illegal aliens dropped to 0 most months. Asylum claims are down significantly and over 3 million illegal aliens have been deported. 

No, it addressed the pain points and put the resources exactly where they need them. You don't like immigration. We get it. But the bi-partisan, republican-led bill wasn't crap. It was generally effective. It just wasn't designed to do what YOU wanted. 

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Good gawd man. You claim to be concerned with their well being. When confronted with the fact that these people are being raped, enslaved or are just evil aholes (like in the article above) you just shrug it off. 

The biggest threat to illegal aliens is the policies that make them think that it is ok to violate our laws. 

 

Your version of concerned about their well being is to just close the door and muffle the screams. We have very different values. Mine just happen to align the humanitarian and the economic.
 

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You just spent several paragraphs aggrandizing the virtues of illegal immigration and denying what the Biden admin did and now this 180? 

I did not. And there is no 180 here. Try reading.

[Nationalist]

12 hours ago, Hodad said:

What's your solution for that?

I don't ignore the crime. It's just not a crime of any special significance. If immigrants were highly criminal, that would be worth discussing. But they're not. So, again, come up with a better argument. 

Just not a crime of any special significance. 

Allow that to purcolate a while. An illegal alien kills a woman with a hammer, and the crime is of no special significance. 

Look how completely bereft of morality these Libbies are. They preach "empathy"...yet exhibit only hatred.

As for you...Hodad...you've perfectly exhibited why you disgusting freaks should never hold power.

You are indeed, a traitor to all humanity.

[Deluge]

29 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Like saying you have a better umbrella because it's not raining as often. -- Biden did enforce the law. You're selling fiction. 

Biden enforced HIS version of the law, whatever the f*ck that means. 

[User]

31 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Like saying you have a better umbrella because it's not raining as often. -- Biden did enforce the law. You're selling fiction. 

Just an outright bald faced lie. 

[Deluge]

30 minutes ago, Hodad said:

1. No, it addressed the pain points and put the resources exactly where they need them.

2. You don't like immigration. We get it. But the bi-partisan, republican-led bill wasn't crap. It was generally effective.

3. It just wasn't designed to do what YOU wanted. 

1. Wrong. It addressed made up pain points but still got thousands of illegals into the country every day, which is what democrats and RINOs wanted. 

2. Now I don't like immigration thanks to traitors like you, but I HATE illegal immigration - always have. That "bi-partisan" bill was a secret handshake between woke a$$holes - nothing more. 

3.  It was designed to do what third-world cultists wanted, which is why it was killed. 

[Nationalist]

Right now at ICE headquarters, "Angel Moms"...mother's of victims of 'Brandon's workforce'...according to these Libbie ghouls...are telling their stories of tragedy.

But its just not of any significance...right @Hodad? Just another dead person.

This is the mentality of these Traitors. They have no real morality...no honor...no respect. Just a pure hatred that forces them to forsake anything that might indicate a sense of humanity.

They are indeed...a cancer in our midst.

[gatomontes99]

4 hours ago, Hodad said:

Like saying you have a better umbrella because it's not raining as often. -- Biden did enforce the law. You're selling fiction. 

Stop gaslighting. Biden had an open border policy. He violated federal law by allowing asylum seekers to be released into the country. He did very little to deport the millions that were later denied asylum. He allowed terrorists, murderers, drug traffickers and more into the country. 

 

4 hours ago, Hodad said:

No, it addressed the pain points and put the resources exactly where they need them. You don't like immigration. We get it. But the bi-partisan, republican-led bill wasn't crap. It was generally effective. It just wasn't designed to do what YOU wanted. 

I am not against immigration. I am against illegal immigration. The bill in question did nothing to stop illegal immigration. In fact, it had an article in it that allowed the President to declare an emergency to end all the provisions in the bill. So wtf good was it? All it did was spend money. Without new expenditures or new laws, the border closed to illegal crossings under Trump. The bill was a waste, rhino support does not negate that. 

 

4 hours ago, Hodad said:

Your version of concerned about their well being is to just close the door and muffle the screams. We have very different values. Mine just happen to align the humanitarian and the economic.

How humanitarian is it to subject them to rape, enslavement and murder? That is a pretty f'd up since of humanity. 

If you want to help them, the only solution is to work with their countries to fix those economies. Just dumping them here is a bandaid at best. 

4 hours ago, Hodad said:

I did not. And there is no 180 here. Try reading.

Right. The words are there. 

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[Deluge]

8 hours ago, Hodad said:

A. The law was enforced, you just want a different law.

B. A sweeping revision to the law on the verge of passing before Trump killed it to keep the issue for his campaign. 

C. Neither of those facts change the appetite--the desperation--of people to come here by whatever means possible. And therefore it's irrelevant to your faux concern about the violence and sexual violence inflicted on these desperate people. 

Bottom line is that an uncontrolled border is a problem. People coming here to work is not a problem--in fact we benefit significantly from it. We should be looking for smarter ways to manage the situation, not xenophobic propaganda. 

A. The law of deportation is the only law that matters. Don't have your papers? then it's adios, amigo.  

B. Nope. Deportation is the only solution. Learn it, live it, love it. 

C. Bottom line is deportation is the only answer. Don't have your papers? then it's adios, amigo.  

[Venandi]

20 hours ago, Hodad said:

Like creating a thread about how someone with red hair committed a crime and thinking it's a good argument to ban people with red hair. 

Sometimes looking a bit deeper than hair colour helps. If you consider the things that serve as "inducements to violence" around the world, you'll begin to see some common elements emerge; and hair colour isn't one of them.

I know you were trying to make a point but the point itself utterly misses the point; and you've been missing the point for a long time now.

There are places in the world where I won't go unarmed, there's a reason for that and it's based on experience. Many of us have been saying (for years) that if you choose to import immigrants from those specific locations please spend the money upfront on things like security and vetting.... it isn't money wasted.

You didn't do that.

We didn't say don't do take in immigrants from there, we said be careful, be cautious, and spend the money required to do it right because not doing it right will eventually cost you more. We even warned you that those costs would likely rise in lockstep with demographic concentrations and that it was something to be mindful of.

 We said don't warehouse people vertically in ethnic enclaves... and you did.

We said be sensitive to the cultural norms of the country of origin... and you weren't.

- Some folks have an inherent distrust of government, the police, military / security forces and with damn good reason. In some countries women have lower status than their teenage sons so single mothers need extra help. You ignored it all. Even worse IMO... Instead of factoring those things into the mix you covered your ears, screamed racist at all and sundry and made grade 3 analogies about things like hair colour.

I could write you a book and it wouldn't matter a bit. You did none of it. You're doing none of it and you'll do none of it in the future.

I fear you will continue to walk the same path that some places in Europe have walked, and in the process of doing that you will eventually create areas where even YOU won't want to go to unarmed.

When that happens, you will be front and centre demanding the very draconian actions to fix it that could have been avoided if you listened with your ears instead of your mouth. 

 

[Hodad]

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Right now at ICE headquarters, "Angel Moms"...mother's of victims of 'Brandon's workforce'...according to these Libbie ghouls...are telling their stories of tragedy.

But its just not of any significance...right @Hodad? Just another dead person.

This is the mentality of these Traitors. They have no real morality...no honor...no respect. Just a pure hatred that forces them to forsake anything that might indicate a sense of humanity.

They are indeed...a cancer in our midst.

Yes, every victim has a family and a story and people who care about them. But that's the point: every victim of crime shares that characteristic. There is nothing that sets them apart from other victims. They are not more statistically significant. 

It's really not my fault that you're bad at logic and worse at math. Certainly doesn't make me a "traitor.  

[Deluge]

12 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Yes, every victim has a family and a story and people who care about them. But that's the point: every victim of crime shares that characteristic. There is nothing that sets them apart from other victims. They are not more statistically significant. 

It's really not my fault that you're bad at logic and worse at math. Certainly doesn't make me a "traitor.  

Illegal aliens are still illegal aliens and immigration law must be enforced. Once we get illegal aliens into Mexico, you can give them all the love you want.  

[Michael Hardner]

12 minutes ago, Hodad said:

  bad logic and worse at math.  

If they bring in 50K immigrants and one commits a crime, the principles at play indicate that those 50K people are all tarred with the same brush.

I'm not sure if it's logic, math, poor values, ignorance or willful trolling.

But I don't care either.  It's just incorrect and there's very little I can discuss with the people who espouse these methods.  Really you should ignore those you can't converse with.

[Deluge]

1 minute ago, Michael Hardner said:

If they bring in 50K immigrants and one commits a crime, the principles at play indicate that those 50K people are all tarred with the same brush.

I'm not sure if it's logic, math, poor values, ignorance or willful trolling.

But I don't care either.  It's just incorrect and there's very little I can discuss with the people who espouse these methods.  Really you should ignore those you can't converse with.

Mike, are any of you leftoids able to say "illegal alien"? Just curious...

[User]

20 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

If they bring in 50K immigrants and one commits a crime, the principles at play indicate that those 50K people are all tarred with the same brush.

I'm not sure if it's logic, math, poor values, ignorance or willful trolling.

But I don't care either.  It's just incorrect and there's very little I can discuss with the people who espouse these methods.  Really you should ignore those you can't converse with.

So are you engaged in willful trolling?

The issue isn’t about immigration, it’s ILLEGAL immigration. People that shouldn’t be here.

What you are doing here isn’t accurate. 
 

When you sit here encouraging people to ignore others you are a piece of shit. 
 

You are not interested in honest conversation.

 

[Nationalist]

44 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Yes, every victim has a family and a story and people who care about them. But that's the point: every victim of crime shares that characteristic. There is nothing that sets them apart from other victims. They are not more statistically significant. 

It's really not my fault that you're bad at logic and worse at math. Certainly doesn't make me a "traitor.  

These people would not be in such grief had your precious illegal ballots had not been invited by Brandon. Your ignoring of that only further proves you devotion to the destruction of your nation.

You are a filthy traitor.!

 

[Nationalist]

34 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

If they bring in 50K immigrants and one commits a crime, the principles at play indicate that those 50K people are all tarred with the same brush.

I'm not sure if it's logic, math, poor values, ignorance or willful trolling.

But I don't care either.  It's just incorrect and there's very little I can discuss with the people who espouse these methods.  Really you should ignore those you can't converse with.

What the Hell is wrong with you?

You know Gawd-Damn well that crime committed by illegals goes ON TOP of that committed by citizens and thus the fault of Democrats.

So Mike...you just ignore those who insist on bringing the truth to the fore, and go hide with your warped morality.

[User]

1 minute ago, Nationalist said:

What the Hell is wrong with you?

You know Gawd-Damn well that crime committed by illegals goes ON TOP of that committed by citizens and thus the fault of Democrats.

So Mike...you just ignore those who insist on bringing the truth to the fore, and go hide with your warped morality.

On an online forum, pushing to ignore people is one of the shittiest things you can do.

Bunch of chicken shit clowns who are incapable of engaging in good faith honest discussion. 

[Hodad]

19 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

Stop gaslighting. Biden had an open border policy. He violated federal law by allowing asylum seekers to be released into the country. He did very little to deport the millions that were later denied asylum. He allowed terrorists, murderers, drug traffickers and more into the country. 

 

Lol, no, Biden did NOT have an open border policy. You're just lying. As a reminder, that administration is turning away a higher percentage of would-be immigrants than Trump is. You just swallowed all the kool aid. 

Trump, on the other hand, definitively broke the law by halting asylum processing. US law guarantees a right to seek protection. 

 

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I am not against immigration. I am against illegal immigration.

Suuuuure you are. So it would be cool with you if we  eliminate the caps and make all the immigration legal? Just a flip of the switch, right?🙂

 

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The bill in question did nothing to stop illegal immigration. In fact, it had an article in it that allowed the President to declare an emergency to end all the provisions in the bill. So wtf good was it? All it did was spend money. Without new expenditures or new laws, the border closed to illegal crossings under Trump. The bill was a waste, rhino support does not negate that. 

 

It did, actually. It allocated resources exactly where we needed them to quickly process cases right at the border and either grant asylum or reject people right back across. Everyone proceeding through proper legal channels because the bottlenecks had been removed. 

And yes, as above, Trump magically "solved" the issue by breaking the law. That's one of the reasons they were trying to change the law. 

 

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How humanitarian is it to subject them to rape, enslavement and murder? That is a pretty f'd up since of humanity. 

 

Not very. So stop doing it. Give people a way to legally get the help they need instead of forcing them through illegal channels. These are people fleeing rape, violence and death. You cannot farking pretend that closing the door is helping them. The truth is that you don't particularly care. You just though that would be a clever way of demonizing "the other side." It wasn't. 

 

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If you want to help them, the only solution is to work with their countries to fix those economies. Just dumping them here is a bandaid at best. 

Talk about a 180. MAGA cultist is now proposing the the best way to help desperate people banging on our doors for asylum is to spend billions (trillions?) of dollars and several decades to make Latin America great again? MLAGA? You're going to have to reprint your merch. 

Or perhaps you're just being disingenuous. 💡

 

[Nationalist]

7 minutes ago, User said:

On an online forum, pushing to ignore people is one of the shittiest things you can do.

Bunch of chicken shit clowns who are incapable of engaging in good faith honest discussion. 

Indeed.

But what's ghoulish is they even try to belittle the crimes of illegal aliens this way. 

Oh they know its disgusting. But..."ORANGEMANBAD!"

They forsake all morality, honor and humanity, in order to oppose that which they know is just. 

They are traitors to humanity itself.

 

1 minute ago, Hodad said:

Biden did NOT have an open border policy.

This is the most blatant and filthy lie possible. 

Hodad...you are human refuse.

[Hodad]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

If they bring in 50K immigrants and one commits a crime, the principles at play indicate that those 50K people are all tarred with the same brush.

I'm not sure if it's logic, math, poor values, ignorance or willful trolling.

But I don't care either.  It's just incorrect and there's very little I can discuss with the people who espouse these methods.  Really you should ignore those you can't converse with.

So you're saying I should just stay off the internet? lol  

You're not wrong. It's a depressing place.