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Posted
3 minutes ago, John Johnston said:

Iran did not have Nukes. 

Djibouti doesn't have Jewish space lasers.

Your turn again. 

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Posted
36 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

How big is Iran's nay right now?

  • Air force?
  • Anti-air defence system?
  • Radar defence system?
  • Drone army?
  • Ballistic Missile stockpile?

Do they have the same capacity for building drones as they did before the war started?

  • Ballistic missiles?
  • IRBM's?
  • Refined Uranium?

FYI we are NOT EVEN CLOSE TO WHERE WE WERE BEFORE THIS WAR STARTED you simpleton. Stop saying stupid shit just for the sake of chiming in. 

How much tea do they have in their cupboards? Are they low on ketchup? 

Like your list above, those things are completely irrelevant to us. They weren't a threat before and they aren't a threat now. The whole asinine schtick is to Make America Great Again. We made Iran worse. Okay. But what did we do for America?

From oil prices to the stock market to international relationships and credibility, to seeding another generation of terrorists, I can list a lot of way that this misadventure has hurt the US. But we haven't gained a thing.

As I've stated before, nobody really wants a nuclear Iran. And there's a good chance we've reversed or slowed progress there, but even that was already a manageable situation through other avenues like the deal Trump tore up. Or, worst case, a military coalition. 

The churn and spin on this thing is huge, but in practical terms, we're worse off than when we started. And the ceasefire may have already fallen apart. 

 

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Hodad said:

How much tea do they have in their cupboards? Are they low on ketchup? 

Dumb as it is, that's your high water mark. 

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Like your list above, those things are completely irrelevant to us. They weren't a threat before and they aren't a threat now.

Stupid.

You're so far behind that I'm not gonna bother explaining it all to you. 

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The whole asinine schtick is to Make America Great Again. We made Iran worse. Okay. But what did we do for America?

Iran is right where Trump wants them. 

The regime is hiding underground. It's hard to even say who's still alive and who's dead. 

At any point a new strike could come and wipe another 30 of them out if they dare to gather. 

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From oil prices to the stock market to international relationships and credibility, to seeding another generation of terrorists, I can list a lot of way that this misadventure has hurt the US. But we haven't gained a thing.

Buddy, the economy was down for three weeks. That would be a good month under Biden, back when you were pretending that everything was great. 

What was that 3 weeks like for the ayat😵llah?

And the next  ayat😵llah?

And the 😵ne after that? 

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If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed.

"I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul

"It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot

Posted
6 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Dumb as it is, that's your high water mark. 

Stupid.

You're so far behind that I'm not gonna bother explaining it all to you. 

Iran is right where Trump wants them. 

The regime is hiding underground. It's hard to even say who's still alive and who's dead. 

At any point a new strike could come and wipe another 30 of them out if they dare to gather. 

Buddy, the economy was down for three weeks. That would be a good month under Biden, back when you were pretending that everything was great. 

What was that 3 weeks like for the ayat😵llah?

And the next  ayat😵llah?

And the 😵ne after that? 

I'm sure you'll sleep much more soundly knowing that the big bad Iranian navy isn't coming for you. 

What a damn relief. Praise be to Trump for saving us!

🙄

 

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Posted
7 minutes ago, Hodad said:

I'm sure you'll sleep much more soundly knowing that the big bad Iranian navy isn't coming for you. 

Honestly Hodad, the entire reason that you're a democrat voter is because ^^that^^ is a perfect example of the depth of understanding you have on a topic that you feel like you understand well enough to explain it to other people. 

If I was as clueless as you are about how even Iran's awkward little navy was part of a plan to cross the ICBM/nuke finish line, I'd just keep my mouth shut. 

If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed.

"I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul

"It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot

Posted
8 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

However, Trump's main goal was the destruction of Iran's nuclear capability, and that was achieved. 

For how long this time?

I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical,
a liberal, oh fanatical criminal

Posted
39 minutes ago, eyeball said:

For how long this time?

Well, if Trump didn't stop it this time, then you would be witnessing a nuclear war within the next 5 years.

So if the next Israel/US leaders get back to this point in 6 years, and they do nothing about it, then that nuclear war will happen in 10 years. 

At the very least, the can has been kicked down the road for about half a generation now, I suppose.

But if the low-IQ leftists and genocide supporters manage to convince America to allow this Iranian regime to get nukes, you will find out all about nuclear war, first-hand.

If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed.

"I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul

"It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot

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If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed.

"I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul

"It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot

Posted
3 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Honestly Hodad, the entire reason that you're a democrat voter is because ^^that^^ is a perfect example of the depth of understanding you have on a topic that you feel like you understand well enough to explain it to other people. 

If I was as clueless as you are about how even Iran's awkward little navy was part of a plan to cross the ICBM/nuke finish line, I'd just keep my mouth shut. 

I'm sure that Trump's rotten rectum is packed full of clues. I'm sure that's why you climbed inside. 

Honestly, it's ridiculous how easily and eagerly you buy into this administration's utter nonsense. In no way shape or form was Iranian military a threat to the US. That's asinine.

Terrorists, on the other hand, are a legitimate threat. And we've just made a LOT more of those. 

Watch out for Iranian drones man. You can never be too careful. Maybe sleep UNDER you Mom's bed tonight.

 

Posted
9 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Grow up ffs.

It's one thing for hyper-political tabloid news orgs in the US to say stupid shit like that, Canadians shouldn't be repeating such things. 

You repeat FOS LIES here all the time. LMAO

9 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Iran is not doing anything, to the extent that you are describing.... FYI this is just a ceasefire, not a fully endorsed, permanent arrangement. 

Israel is gonna do exactly what they need to do regardless of Iran's desire to protect their various terrorist organizations.

Right now the "agreement," that you claimed was a win for Trump, is what I STATED.

Posted
9 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Biden was worse. Just look how sideways the US and the world went while Biden was asleep at the helm.

Obama was far worse. His calculated statements caused racial violence and disharmony not seen since the 1950s.

You Canucks have no idea what goes on HERE, because all you get is half the story from FOS LIES, if you're lucky. 

Posted
9 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

OMG robobigot, just listen to yourself ffs.

You look at a story about "rocks and trees helping muslims exterminate jews that are just trying to hide behind them" and call it a 'parable'. THERE'S NO ONE IN THIS FORUM WHO CAN HOLD A CANDLE TO YOUR IGNORANCE you worthless god-damned piece of shit. 

And you believe it's FACTUAL. LMAO

9 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

... CNN's BS?

I wouldn't know, because it seems you're the only one who watches CNN because you are obsessed with them.

9 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Ummmm, because that's what you do every day here?

How would you know when you have me on IGNORE. YOU DO NOT.

Posted
9 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

How big is Iran's nay right now?

  • Air force?
  • Anti-air defence system?
  • Radar defence system?
  • Drone army?
  • Ballistic Missile stockpile?

Do they have the same capacity for building drones as they did before the war started?

  • Ballistic missiles?
  • IRBM's?
  • Refined Uranium?

FYI we are NOT EVEN CLOSE TO WHERE WE WERE BEFORE THIS WAR STARTED you simpleton. Stop saying stupid shit just for the sake of chiming in. 

The FACT is, you have no idea what Iran has because you believe what FOS LIES tells you. LMAO

Posted
17 hours ago, blackbird said:

You're not concerned a guy in charge says a whole civilization is going to die tonight?

 

No...have heard "Death to America" for 47 years...big yawn.

Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

Posted (edited)
16 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

You think they have any?

 

I think they have all the necessary precursors like gas centrifuges, Pakistani derived implosion designs (which came from China), ring magnets and other dual use trigger components, HE lenses for spherical implosion, neutron initiator and reflector, etc.

What Iran may lack is sufficient highly enriched fissile material (+80%) for the pit, but their stated goal and actions are to achieve this end.  At a minimun, Iran already has the ability to make and deliver dirty (radiological) bombs/warheads...their IRBM capabilities (~4000 NM range) have been amply demonstrated so far.

Having achieved such a goal, the next logical step would be a thermonuclear weapon with much higher yield.

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Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

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The winners in this War are Russia, China and Iran. 

The big losers is America. 

This is what happens when you appoint Weekend Fox News Hosts to run the Department of Defense by an American President who idolizes Putin, Kim and the likes of Orban.

Talk about egg on your face.... 

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Posted
3 minutes ago, John Johnston said:

The winners in this War are Russia, China and Iran. 

 

AI slightly disagrees with your assessment thus far:

CHINA:

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An Iran war severely impacts China by threatening its energy security and economic stability. As a top importer of Iranian and Gulf oil, China faces disruptions to shipping through the Strait of Hormuz, rising fuel prices, and damage to investments under its Belt and Road Initiative (BRI), while risking broader global economic slowdown. 
 
Key Impacts on China:
  • BRI and Infrastructure Risk: Conflict risks damaging major Chinese infrastructure investments in Iran, including ports, railways, and energy projects.
  • Geopolitical Dilemma: While China has gained propaganda opportunities to criticize U.S. involvement, the conflict undermines its regional influence and forces a potential overhaul of its Middle East policy.
  • Energy Security Threats: A closure of the Strait of Hormuz directly threatens 45% of China's oil imports, causing energy shortages and forcing reliance on high inventories.
  • Economic Disruption: Increased shipping costs, insurance premiums, and oil prices above $90/barrel create inflationary pressure
    . A global economic slowdown reduces demand for Chinese exports, risking domestic economic pressure in China.
 

 

IRAN:

 

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The 2026 U.S.-Israel war against Iran, concluded with a recent ceasefire, has left Iran with a shattered economy, battered military, and an isolated, heavily affected civilian population. Key infrastructure, including military sites, steel plants, and research centers, was destroyed, while energy exports and regional influence were severely severely constrained. 
  • Economic Collapse: Analysts anticipate a 10% shrinkage of Iran's economy following weeks of strikes. Significant infrastructure damage includes attacks on the Natanz enrichment facility, steel plants, oil depots, and pharmaceutical research centers.
  • Military Degradation: U.S. officials described the operation as a historic victory, claiming the destruction of Iran's navy, air force, and drone/missile capabilities.
  • Energy and Trade Interruption: Iran's ability to operate in the Strait of Hormuz has been hampered, and trade, especially with Gulf states, has been severed.
  • Civilian Suffering: The conflict resulted in high civilian casualties, internal displacement, and destruction of homes and infrastructure. Job losses and rising prices have severely impacted the population.
  • Regional Position: While Iranian authorities initially framed the truce as a strategic victory, the country emerges from the conflict battered and isolated.

 

RUSSIA:

 

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The Iran war has acted as a significant economic and strategic lifeline for Russia, providing a windfall in energy revenue and diverting Western attention from the Ukraine conflict. High oil prices, driven by supply fears, allowed Russia to sell its crude at a premium, boosting daily revenues by an estimated
 
 
million and easing intense budgetary pressure. 
Key Impacts on Russia:
  • Strategic Distraction: The conflict in the Middle East has diverted Western attention, resources, and air defense supplies away from Ukraine, complicating Ukraine's war effort.
  • Limited Leverage & Risks: While benefiting financially, Russia faces limited ability to assist Iran, its key ally, revealing the constraints of its influence in West Asia. The conflict also creates unpredictability in the region, which could pose long-term risks to Russian interests.
  • Economic Windfall: The surge in oil prices has reversed a slump in Russia's energy revenue, with estimations suggesting the conflict could add hundreds of billions in additional export revenues, strengthening the war machine.
  • Reduced Economic Pressure: Before the conflict, Russia was facing a budget crisis; the war has bought significant time, allowing for the postponement of spending cuts
    .

 

Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

Posted
12 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

Iran is in control of the Strait of Hormuz.  The regime is still in charge.  USA can’t even open the straits without Iran’s help. 
 

  That’s a huge strategic defeat for USA. 

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/german-war-expert-iran-ceasefire-093733573.html

Treebeard: at every stage of the process you have been declaring victory for Iran. 

At every stage you have been cheering for the Iranian regime.

FYI this is more important than your petty partisan politics by orders of magnitude. This is about a terrorist state that has been openly preaching about the need for massive genocides for decades, possibly getting nuclear weapons.

This is about the continuance of a regime that allows pedophile marriages and has women flogged and jailed for not wearing hijabs. 

Your little BS hissy fit against Donald trump is just beyond ridiculous now. At this stage you're no longer some kind of pro-America Democrat, you've crossed the Rubicon, and are now a full-fledged supporter of terrorism, violent bigotry and misogyny. 

If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed.

"I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul

"It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot

Posted
14 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Sure seems that they have the US by the short hairs...  

In what way?

If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed.

"I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul

"It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot

Posted
3 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

In what way?

By keeping the Strait of Hormuz closed.  Takes away from Trump's claim of victory and keeps domestic and global pressure on him because of the cost pain it's causing.

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