John Johnston Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 Initial Creation of Fascist Movements: This stage involves the emergence of fascist movements, often in response to social unrest, economic instability, or perceived threats to national identity. These movements typically capitalize on public discontent and utilize charismatic leadership to attract followers. Rooting as Political Parties: In this stage, fascist movements transition into organized political parties capable of influencing the political landscape. This often occurs when the existing political system is weak or unable to address the needs of the populace, allowing fascist parties to gain traction and legitimacy. Acquisition of Power: Here, fascist parties seek to gain control of the government, often through elections, alliances with conservative factions, or even violent means. This stage is marked by strategic maneuvering to consolidate power and eliminate opposition. Exercise of Power: Once in power, fascist regimes implement their ideologies through legislation, propaganda, and state control of various aspects of society. This stage often involves the suppression of dissent, militarization of society, and the promotion of nationalistic and xenophobic sentiments. Radicalization or Entropy: In the final stage, fascist regimes may either become more radical in their policies, leading to increased repression and conflict, or they may face decline and fragmentation due to internal contradictions, loss of public support, or external pressures. 2 These stages illustrate the complex and dynamic nature of fascism as it evolves from grassroots movements to authoritarian regimes, highlighting the socio-political conditions that facilitate its rise and sustain its power. Understanding these stages can provide valuable insights into the mechanisms of fascism and its impact on society. 1 1 Quote
gatomontes99 Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 That isnt the five steps of fascism. That is someone's made up steps that they want to mimic MAGA. Who is more fascist? The group enforcing the law that was voted upon by a majority of the country over two centuries plus, signed into law by presidents of all ideologies and held up by courts in millions of cases or the small group of people trying to force their opinion on society through intimidation and obstruction? Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
John Johnston Posted February 5 Author Report Posted February 5 18 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: That isnt the five steps of fascism. That is someone's made up steps that they want to mimic MAGA. Who is more fascist? The group enforcing the law that was voted upon by a majority of the country over two centuries plus, signed into law by presidents of all ideologies and held up by courts in millions of cases or the small group of people trying to force their opinion on society through intimidation and obstruction? Reading is fundamental. 1 1 Quote
Legato Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 35 minutes ago, John Johnston said: Reading is fundamental. It is. Try it sometime. Then having read, you would then realise that the content of your post is rather childish. Quote
gatomontes99 Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 1 hour ago, John Johnston said: Reading is fundamental. Why don't you just defend your thesis? Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
Deluge Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 3 hours ago, John Johnston said: Initial Creation of Fascist Movements: This stage involves the emergence of fascist movements, often in response to social unrest, economic instability, or perceived threats to national identity. These movements typically capitalize on public discontent and utilize charismatic leadership to attract followers. Rooting as Political Parties: In this stage, fascist movements transition into organized political parties capable of influencing the political landscape. This often occurs when the existing political system is weak or unable to address the needs of the populace, allowing fascist parties to gain traction and legitimacy. Acquisition of Power: Here, fascist parties seek to gain control of the government, often through elections, alliances with conservative factions, or even violent means. This stage is marked by strategic maneuvering to consolidate power and eliminate opposition. Exercise of Power: Once in power, fascist regimes implement their ideologies through legislation, propaganda, and state control of various aspects of society. This stage often involves the suppression of dissent, militarization of society, and the promotion of nationalistic and xenophobic sentiments. Radicalization or Entropy: In the final stage, fascist regimes may either become more radical in their policies, leading to increased repression and conflict, or they may face decline and fragmentation due to internal contradictions, loss of public support, or external pressures. 2 These stages illustrate the complex and dynamic nature of fascism as it evolves from grassroots movements to authoritarian regimes, highlighting the socio-political conditions that facilitate its rise and sustain its power. Understanding these stages can provide valuable insights into the mechanisms of fascism and its impact on society. You just laid out the left's plan of attack. Of course we already knew you were doing this shit, but I'm guessing you perverts have something to get excited about in private. Quote
ironstone Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 (edited) The left's constant overuse of the word 'fascist' is just like the overuse of the word 'bro' in the English language. Pathetic and annoying. Edited February 5 by ironstone 1 Quote Beware the Brookfield industrial complex...
robosmith Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 5 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: That isnt the five steps of fascism. That is someone's made up steps that they want to mimic MAGA. Who is more fascist? The group enforcing the law that was voted upon by a majority of the country over two centuries plus, signed into law by presidents of all ideologies and held up by courts in millions of cases or the small group of people trying to force their opinion on society through intimidation and obstruction? MAGA is emulating early Hitler and Mussolini. The gas chambers came much later. 1 Quote
User Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 5 minutes ago, robosmith said: MAGA is emulating early Hitler and Mussolini. The gas chambers came much later. How are they emulating either Hitler or Mussolini? You can never actually articulate a real argument, just make these petty absurd claims and then run away. Quote
Deluge Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 4 minutes ago, robosmith said: MAGA is emulating early Hitler and Mussolini. The gas chambers came much later. The gas chambers won't come here at all because Trump is not a dictator, and Hitler and Mussolini are dead. What will come is more immigration enforcement and interference from America hating wokejobs. The REAL villains are you, the traitors. 1 Quote
Hodad Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 5 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: That isnt the five steps of fascism. That is someone's made up steps that they want to mimic MAGA. A. It is, actually. You can slice and dice it into more stages, but that's the journey. B. It's not created to mimic MAGA, it's just the playbook MAGA is using. Good on you for spotting the similarity though. 1 1 Quote
gatomontes99 Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 32 minutes ago, robosmith said: MAGA is emulating early Hitler and Mussolini. The gas chambers came much later. Yes. We know you ANTIFA types want to call us fascist so you can kill us. We get that. But how do you explain that your side is far more authoritarian? Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
gatomontes99 Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Hodad said: A. It is, actually. You can slice and dice it into more stages, but that's the journey. B. It's not created to mimic MAGA, it's just the playbook MAGA is using. Good on you for spotting the similarity though. It isn't even the playbook MAGA is using. The left has moved so far left that they view us as radical. MAGA is moderate. Trump is way left of most conservatives. Most conservatives wouldn't stand for tariffs, or not bombing the hell out of Putin, entertain red flag laws or not pursue a nation wide abortion ban. But those are position Trump takes. The left has become so radical that the leftwing politicians from Obama back, talked like MAGA. They supported stronger borders, smaller government, stronger military, ending the US as the world police, etc. The distance from Trump's policies and Clinton's is very small. But the distance from Clinton/Obama and AOC/ANTIFA/Sanders is monumental. Edited to add: Now look at how the left behaves versus MAGA. MAGA is electing officials, passing bills and working within the Democratic process to effect change. The left is trying to create change in law through intimidation and obstruction. They are killing thought leaders, attempting to assasinate the president and bullying businesses (see Target sit in yesterday). Who is more authoritarian? Remove the right wing aspect of fascism, and the left is in lock step with Mouslini. Edited February 5 by gatomontes99 Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
User Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 1 hour ago, Hodad said: A. It is, actually. You can slice and dice it into more stages, but that's the journey. B. It's not created to mimic MAGA, it's just the playbook MAGA is using. Good on you for spotting the similarity though. It was so vague it could apply to any political party, except substitute out the right wanting to protect our nation's borders with the left-wing folks like you wanting to see the country overrun with lawlessness and open borders madness. Quote
Hodad Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 (edited) 3 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: It isn't even the playbook MAGA is using. The left has moved so far left that they view us as radical. MAGA is moderate. Trump is way left of most conservatives. Most conservatives wouldn't stand for tariffs, or not bombing the hell out of Putin, entertain red flag laws or not pursue a nation wide abortion ban. But those are position Trump takes. The left has become so radical that the leftwing politicians from Obama back, talked like MAGA. They supported stronger borders, smaller government, stronger military, ending the US as the world police, etc. The distance from Trump's policies and Clinton's is very small. But the distance from Clinton/Obama and AOC/ANTIFA/Sanders is monumental. Edited to add: Now look at how the left behaves versus MAGA. MAGA is electing officials, passing bills and working within the Democratic process to effect change. The left is trying to create change in law through intimidation and obstruction. They are killing thought leaders, attempting to assasinate the president and bullying businesses (see Target sit in yesterday). Who is more authoritarian? Remove the right wing aspect of fascism, and the left is in lock step with Mouslini. The idea that Trump and MAGA are “moderate” because they occasionally stumble into positions that sound less extreme doesn’t magically erase the broader pattern. Every rising authoritarian movement has a few policies that look centrist on paper. Mussolini built public works projects. Franco liked trains. That didn’t make them moderates. The real tell isn’t the policy menu — it’s the behavior. And MAGA’s behavior reads like a greatest‑hits compilation of classic authoritarian moves: Delegitimizing elections Casting political opponents as existential threats Demanding loyalty to a single leader over institutions Flooding the zone with conspiracy theories Painting any accountability as persecution Insisting only they represent “the real people” That’s not centrism. That’s the preface to every “How It Started” documentary about collapsing democracies. (And when a guy starts renaming shit after himself and wants to put his own face on Mt. Rushmore you know it's not about the country. You know we're in trouble.) If anything, the pattern we’re seeing — the leader‑worship, the grievance‑fueling, the mythologizing of a lost national greatness, the insistence that only one movement represents the “true nation” — lines up with the historical rise of authoritarian right‑wing regimes far more than anything happening on the left. But hey, if someone wants to cosplay as the reasonable middle while marching in lockstep behind a guy who tried to overturn an election, that’s their business. Just don’t expect the rest of us to pretend the costume is convincing. Edited February 5 by Hodad 2 Quote
WestCanMan Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 9 hours ago, John Johnston said: Initial Creation of Fascist Movements: This stage involves the emergence of fascist movements, often in response to social unrest, economic instability, or perceived threats to national identity. These movements typically capitalize on public discontent and utilize charismatic leadership to attract followers. Rooting as Political Parties: In this stage, fascist movements transition into organized political parties capable of influencing the political landscape. This often occurs when the existing political system is weak or unable to address the needs of the populace, allowing fascist parties to gain traction and legitimacy. Acquisition of Power: Here, fascist parties seek to gain control of the government, often through elections, alliances with conservative factions, or even violent means. This stage is marked by strategic maneuvering to consolidate power and eliminate opposition. Exercise of Power: Once in power, fascist regimes implement their ideologies through legislation, propaganda, and state control of various aspects of society. This stage often involves the suppression of dissent, militarization of society, and the promotion of nationalistic and xenophobic sentiments. Radicalization or Entropy: In the final stage, fascist regimes may either become more radical in their policies, leading to increased repression and conflict, or they may face decline and fragmentation due to internal contradictions, loss of public support, or external pressures. 2 These stages illustrate the complex and dynamic nature of fascism as it evolves from grassroots movements to authoritarian regimes, highlighting the socio-political conditions that facilitate its rise and sustain its power. Understanding these stages can provide valuable insights into the mechanisms of fascism and its impact on society. Buddy, that's Canada. 1) Our gov't used covid to restrict Canadians' freedoms, freeze bank accounts, and even force people to take dangerous injections that they didn't need 2) our national broadcaster joined forces with TNI, a global disinformation network with control of social media giants that limited the freedom of speech of dissidents. (Twitter was part of that until Musk ripped it out of there) 3) consolidation of political power here came from control of the media and social media. Our govt spent billions of taxpayer dollars bribing CBC and other media outlets over the past 4 elections. 4) CBC and teh LPoC are propaganda masters. They convinced Canadians that BLM were peaceful protesters, which is patently ret4rded, and that the Freedom Convoy was a violent, destructive riot, by showing 4 things: 1. a spot where someone had urinated in the snow, 2. a sign that was put in the hand of a Terry Fox statue, 3. a picture of a girl standing on the pedestal of a war memorial, and 4, an alleged verbal argument between two random people and a protester that wasn't caught on video. That's it. Somehow Canadians were convinced by our MSM propagandists that those 4 small, isolated, minor, and possibly even fictional events constituted proof that the entire Freedom Convoy was violent and destructive. 5. Our LPoC has been slandering and denigrating conservatives with lies about atrocities against FN's children, blaming all the MMIW cases against whites, the hijab hoax, doubling down on their accusations of racism by Canadians after the hijab hoax was outed, and Trudeau even going so far as to call the unvaxed "racists and misogynists". 1 Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
CdnFox Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 10 hours ago, John Johnston said: Initial Creation of Fascist Movements: This stage involves the emergence of fascist movements, often in response to social unrest, economic instability, or perceived threats to national identity. These movements typically capitalize on public discontent and utilize charismatic leadership to attract followers. Rooting as Political Parties: In this stage, fascist movements transition into organized political parties capable of influencing the political landscape. This often occurs when the existing political system is weak or unable to address the needs of the populace, allowing fascist parties to gain traction and legitimacy. Acquisition of Power: Here, fascist parties seek to gain control of the government, often through elections, alliances with conservative factions, or even violent means. This stage is marked by strategic maneuvering to consolidate power and eliminate opposition. Exercise of Power: Once in power, fascist regimes implement their ideologies through legislation, propaganda, and state control of various aspects of society. This stage often involves the suppression of dissent, militarization of society, and the promotion of nationalistic and xenophobic sentiments. Radicalization or Entropy: In the final stage, fascist regimes may either become more radical in their policies, leading to increased repression and conflict, or they may face decline and fragmentation due to internal contradictions, loss of public support, or external pressures. 2 These stages illustrate the complex and dynamic nature of fascism as it evolves from grassroots movements to authoritarian regimes, highlighting the socio-political conditions that facilitate its rise and sustain its power. Understanding these stages can provide valuable insights into the mechanisms of fascism and its impact on society. There was exactly one fascist government in history. This is quite the list of rules for something that happened once. However Fascism and Nazism are scary words, so the left likes to try and shoehorn them and do all kinds of situations where they just don't fit. By the way you literally described the process for starting every political party that's ever existed. They create a movement, they form a party, they try to get elected and if elected the exercise power Name one political party ever that got to power that didn't follow those steps If you're going to talk politics you need to be a little smarter than that kind of nonsense and pap Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
gatomontes99 Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 13 minutes ago, Hodad said: Delegitimizing elections 15 minutes ago, Hodad said: Casting political opponents as existential threats Dems Have Called GOP Nazis Since 1948. Their Predictions Never Pan Out 19 minutes ago, Hodad said: Demanding loyalty to a single leader over institutions Former CNN analyst says media turned blind eye to Biden's alleged decline because most 'vote for Democrats' Chris Cillizza said it was reporters' 'unconscious bias' towards Democrats that caused them to not push harder on the Biden White House. 20 minutes ago, Hodad said: Flooding the zone with conspiracy theories Trump Russia Hoax? Fine people on both sides hoax? Blood bath hoax? 23 minutes ago, Hodad said: Painting any accountability as persecution US President Joe Biden has issued an official pardon for his son Hunter, who was facing sentencing for two criminal cases, despite previously ruling it out. In a statement, the president said his son had been "singled out" and called his cases "a miscarriage of justice". 39 minutes ago, Hodad said: Insisting only they represent “the real people” Lmao...oh boy Donald Trump Does Not Represent the Real America I mean, really. Could you demonstrate "every accusation is an admission" any more clearly than what you just did? Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
Hodad Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 38 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: Dems Have Called GOP Nazis Since 1948. Their Predictions Never Pan Out Former CNN analyst says media turned blind eye to Biden's alleged decline because most 'vote for Democrats' Chris Cillizza said it was reporters' 'unconscious bias' towards Democrats that caused them to not push harder on the Biden White House. Trump Russia Hoax? Fine people on both sides hoax? Blood bath hoax? US President Joe Biden has issued an official pardon for his son Hunter, who was facing sentencing for two criminal cases, despite previously ruling it out. In a statement, the president said his son had been "singled out" and called his cases "a miscarriage of justice". Lmao...oh boy Donald Trump Does Not Represent the Real America I mean, really. Could you demonstrate "every accusation is an admission" any more clearly than what you just did? When your wife sends you out to buy apples, do you come home with watermelons instead? These are comically bad comparisons. The falsest of equivalences. I don't know whether you don't understand or are deliberately misrepresenting what it means to delegitimize and election, or to demand loyalty to a leader rather than an institution, etc. etc., but that ain't it. For example, saying that Trump + Russia conspired to manipulate voters is VASTLY different than saying that vote counts were manipulated to rig the outcome. The first statement says that you can't trust Trump. The second says that you can't trust American democracy. And if you can't spot the difference between the two, that's a big problem. Good luck with your watermelons! 1 Quote
gatomontes99 Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 21 minutes ago, Hodad said: When your wife sends you out to buy apples, do you come home with watermelons instead? These are comically bad comparisons. Nope. They are apples to apples. Dead on accurate examples of your side doing what you CLAIM we do. 22 minutes ago, Hodad said: For example, saying that Trump + Russia conspired to manipulate voters is VASTLY different than saying that vote counts were manipulated to rig the outcome. They called him illegitimate. They tried to contest the results and stop certification. How exactly is that different than saying it was rigged and trying to challenge the certification? Oh...he said rigged...yeah...so different. 23 minutes ago, Hodad said: The first statement says that you can't trust Trump. The second says that you can't trust American democracy. And if you can't spot the difference between the two, that's a big problem. Good luck with your watermelons! Are you mad bro? You sound mad bro. Bro, are you mad? 1 Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
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