CrakHoBarbie Posted April 6 Report Posted April 6 12 minutes ago, User said: Yes, humans do those things, but they are condemned as wrong... not celebrated as "natural" and OK like you are trying to do here. Again, you keep ignoring: This continues to be the stupidity of your whole schtick here. You are conflating human morals and reasoning of right and wrong with what animals instinctively do. Which is why you keep running like a coward when I keep pointing this out and making the point about how animals also do a lot of other violent nasty things to each other. This has nothing to do with the same sex activity engaged in by every species on the planet. And you are just to stup1d to be able to understand that. Just now, User said: Animals engage in all sorts of activities. So once again... This continues to be the stupidity of your whole schtick here. You are conflating human morals and reasoning of right and wrong with what animals instinctively do. Which is why you keep running like a coward when I keep pointing this out and making the point about how animals also do a lot of other violent nasty things to each other. This has nothing to do with the fact that every species on the planet engages in same sex activity. Quote
User Posted April 6 Report Posted April 6 4 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said: Facts are facts you transphobic c_nt. No, just pointing out that you are a sick depraved evil person who wants to butcher children and drug them up to further prop up your love for this fetish and mental illness so you can feel better about yourself. 1 minute ago, CrakHoBarbie said: This has nothing to do with the same sex activity engaged in by every species on the planet. And you are just to stup1d to be able to understand that. This has nothing to do with the fact that every species on the planet engages in same sex activity. Again, you keep ignoring: This continues to be the stupidity of your whole schtick here. You are conflating human morals and reasoning of right and wrong with what animals instinctively do. Which is why you keep running like a coward when I keep pointing this out and making the point about how animals also do a lot of other violent nasty things to each other. Quote
CrakHoBarbie Posted April 6 Report Posted April 6 1 minute ago, User said: No, just pointing out that you are a sick depraved evil person who wants to butcher children and drug them up to further prop up your love for this fetish and mental illness so you can feel better about yourself. Again, you keep ignoring: This continues to be the stupidity of your whole schtick here. You are conflating human morals and reasoning of right and wrong with what animals instinctively do. Which is why you keep running like a coward when I keep pointing this out and making the point about how animals also do a lot of other violent nasty things to each other. That has nothing to do with the fact that every species on the planet engages in same sex activity. Quote
User Posted April 6 Report Posted April 6 1 minute ago, CrakHoBarbie said: That has nothing to do with the fact that every species on the planet engages in same sex activity. This continues to be the stupidity of your whole schtick here. You are conflating human morals and reasoning of right and wrong with what animals instinctively do. Which is why you keep running like a coward when I keep pointing this out and making the point about how animals also do a lot of other violent nasty things to each other. Quote
CrakHoBarbie Posted April 6 Report Posted April 6 1 minute ago, User said: This continues to be the stupidity of your whole schtick here. You are conflating human morals and reasoning of right and wrong with what animals instinctively do. Which is why you keep running like a coward when I keep pointing this out and making the point about how animals also do a lot of other violent nasty things to each other. That has nothing to do with the fact that every species on the planet engages in same sex activity. Quote
User Posted April 6 Report Posted April 6 4 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said: That has nothing to do with the fact that every species on the planet engages in same sex activity. This continues to be the stupidity of your whole schtick here. You are conflating human morals and reasoning of right and wrong with what animals instinctively do. Which is why you keep running like a coward when I keep pointing this out and making the point about how animals also do a lot of other violent nasty things to each other. Quote
CrakHoBarbie Posted April 6 Report Posted April 6 8 minutes ago, User said: This continues to be the stupidity of your whole schtick here. You are conflating human morals and reasoning of right and wrong with what animals instinctively do. Which is why you keep running like a coward when I keep pointing this out and making the point about how animals also do a lot of other violent nasty things to each other. Arguing with butt sweat like you is futile. But, I also wont allow you the satisfaction of getting the last word. Sooooo........ Remember, you asked for this. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v3GltAQHJm4 Quote
User Posted April 6 Report Posted April 6 10 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said: Arguing with butt sweat like you is futile. But, I also wont allow you the satisfaction of getting the last word. Sooooo........ Remember, you asked for this. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v3GltAQHJm4 This continues to be the stupidity of your whole schtick here. You are conflating human morals and reasoning of right and wrong with what animals instinctively do. Which is why you keep running like a coward when I keep pointing this out and making the point about how animals also do a lot of other violent nasty things to each other. Quote
CrakHoBarbie Posted April 6 Report Posted April 6 10 minutes ago, User said: This continues to be the stupidity of your whole schtick here. You are conflating human morals and reasoning of right and wrong with what animals instinctively do. Which is why you keep running like a coward when I keep pointing this out and making the point about how animals also do a lot of other violent nasty things to each other. Quote
CdnFox Posted April 6 Report Posted April 6 3 hours ago, CrakHoBarbie said: Thats not what the research shows you bigoted c_nt. People like you drive transexuals to suicide. All the data shows this to be true. You and your revolting bigotry kills people. https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/publications/suicidality-transgender-adults/ https://www.suicideinfo.ca/local_resource/trans-fact-sheet/ https://www.ashasexualhealth.org/four-decade-study-in-denmark-shows-higher-suicide-rates-among-transgender-people/ Actually I'm quite right and you literally posted the proof of it. The first one doesn't say that people of transgender nature's commit suicide more often at all. Says they think about it but I literally said that's exactly what the studies show that they think about it. They don't do it Your second piece isn't actually science. It's an opinionated editorial style article that is the opinion of one person but not actually researched. They simply misinterpret other people's work to their advantage. There's no science involved . And again it claims that people think about suicide but doesn't actually show any evidence that they commit suicide Your final one doesn't actually look at the study. Fortunately i took the time to find it. Transgender Identity and Suicide Attempts and Mortality in Denmark | Public Health | JAMA | JAMA Network Suicides are higher but actually DEATHS FROM ALL SOURCES is higher as well and by almost the same amount. That would indicate there are factors that affect them that have nohting to do with being transgender. There is NO information in that study that suggests they committed suicide more often BECAUSE they are transgender, just as there's no explanation given for why they were killed by other causes more often than 'regular' people. Sorry, it's just not useful. There's no evidence there that being transgender had anything to do with it, and it's too small a sample to be meaningful. You can take any small group and possibly have a number that's very different than the national average, but they didn't even correct for age. You either have to do a very large study involving many thousands in a shorter time frame or look at specific age related populations within the same geographic area or otherwise correct the study so it's apples to apples. About the only thing that actual research seems to agree on is that transgender people have a higher likelihood of thinking about suicide, but that is due to depression and stress resulting from their condition and it's the same even in supportive families. Goes down a bit if they have transition surgery but is still very high. But there is almost no evidence that this actually results in substantially more successful suicides. So, apparently you don't know what science is. The science doesn't support your claims. It DOES say they have serious mental health issues and are often very depressed but it suggests it's the gender dysphoria that is the primary culprit. Sorry kiddo. I know you want me to be a terrible murderer so you can feel better about yourself but that's just not the case. (also i don't actually dislike transgeneder people at all ) 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
CrakHoBarbie Posted April 6 Report Posted April 6 11 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Actually I'm quite right and you literally posted the proof of it. The first one doesn't say that people of transgender nature's commit suicide more often at all. Says they think about it but I literally said that's exactly what the studies show that they think about it. They don't do it Your second piece isn't actually science. It's an opinionated editorial style article that is the opinion of one person but not actually researched. They simply misinterpret other people's work to their advantage. There's no science involved . And again it claims that people think about suicide but doesn't actually show any evidence that they commit suicide Your final one doesn't actually look at the study. Fortunately i took the time to find it. Transgender Identity and Suicide Attempts and Mortality in Denmark | Public Health | JAMA | JAMA Network Suicides are higher but actually DEATHS FROM ALL SOURCES is higher as well and by almost the same amount. That would indicate there are factors that affect them that have nohting to do with being transgender. There is NO information in that study that suggests they committed suicide more often BECAUSE they are transgender, just as there's no explanation given for why they were killed by other causes more often than 'regular' people. Sorry, it's just not useful. There's no evidence there that being transgender had anything to do with it, and it's too small a sample to be meaningful. You can take any small group and possibly have a number that's very different than the national average, but they didn't even correct for age. You either have to do a very large study involving many thousands in a shorter time frame or look at specific age related populations within the same geographic area or otherwise correct the study so it's apples to apples. About the only thing that actual research seems to agree on is that transgender people have a higher likelihood of thinking about suicide, but that is due to depression and stress resulting from their condition and it's the same even in supportive families. Goes down a bit if they have transition surgery but is still very high. But there is almost no evidence that this actually results in substantially more successful suicides. So, apparently you don't know what science is. The science doesn't support your claims. It DOES say they have serious mental health issues and are often very depressed but it suggests it's the gender dysphoria that is the primary culprit. Sorry kiddo. I know you want me to be a terrible murderer so you can feel better about yourself but that's just not the case. (also i don't actually dislike transgeneder people at all ) They all confirm my statement. People like you cause trans folk to commit suicide. Quote
CdnFox Posted April 6 Report Posted April 6 4 hours ago, CrakHoBarbie said: This has nothing to do with the same sex activities every species on the planet engages in. Sure it does. It points out that you're wrong. Spiders don't engage in that activity and they are in fact animals and one of the species currently on the planet. Again the point is you're trying to claim that animals behave this way and therefore humans are ethical behaving the same way. The majority of animal species do not have homosexuality. And in fact in the number of species where they have to observed what they believe might be homosexual behavior it actually often turns out not to be the case. There is no doubt that there is a certain amount of homosexual behavior that can genuinely be said to be homosexual in a large number of animal species. But no, not every species on the planet So there you go 7 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said: They all confirm my statement. They don't in fact. As I pointed out case by case. They either don't address your statement at all or else they don't prove or disprove it one way or another Sorry, but the science you provided, and most of it wasn't science, doesn't particularly support your Statement at all Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
CrakHoBarbie Posted April 6 Report Posted April 6 11 hours ago, CdnFox said: Sure it does. It points out that you're wrong. Spiders don't engage in that activity and they are in fact animals and one of the species currently on the planet. Again the point is you're trying to claim that animals behave this way and therefore humans are ethical behaving the same way. The majority of animal species do not have homosexuality. And in fact in the number of species where they have to observed what they believe might be homosexual behavior it actually often turns out not to be the case. There is no doubt that there is a certain amount of homosexual behavior that can genuinely be said to be homosexual in a large number of animal species. But no, not every species on the planet So there you go They don't in fact. As I pointed out case by case. They either don't address your statement at all or else they don't prove or disprove it one way or another Sorry, but the science you provided, and most of it wasn't science, doesn't particularly support your Statement at all Well, youre a delusional dullard. Your imbicilic opinion has no merit. Quote
User Posted April 6 Report Posted April 6 11 hours ago, CrakHoBarbie said: They all confirm my statement. People like you cause trans folk to commit suicide. No, this is the lie evil people like you use to butcher and drug children. 29 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said: Well, youre a delusional dullard. Your imbicilic opinion has no merit. A dullard is someone like you who believes trans women are really women. A disgusting, perverted, sick, and demented person is someone like you who wants to push dudes into girls' personal spaces. An evil depraved person is someone like you who wants to butcher children and drug them up to push the trans madness onto them. Quote
CrakHoBarbie Posted April 6 Report Posted April 6 14 minutes ago, User said: No, this is the lie evil people like you use to butcher and drug children. A dullard is someone like you who believes trans women are really women. A disgusting, perverted, sick, and demented person is someone like you who wants to push dudes into girls' personal spaces. An evil depraved person is someone like you who wants to butcher children and drug them up to push the trans madness onto them. Blah, blah, blah Whine some more you stup1d b1tch. Quote
User Posted April 6 Report Posted April 6 2 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said: Blah, blah, blah Whine some more you stup1d b1tch. You are the one crying about all this, because the tide has turned against the Trans madness you evil people are pushing. I will keep pushing to completely eradicate it altogether, to save the children from your butchering them and drugging them. Quote
CdnFox Posted April 6 Report Posted April 6 1 hour ago, CrakHoBarbie said: Well, youre a delusional dullard. Your imbicilic opinion has no merit. It's not an opinion, I'm referencing what you posted is supposed proof and they're findings. So here's what appears to have happened. As is often the case with you you started with an answer and tried to go to the web to find data that supported your answer, instead of starting with a question. You read some headlines and thought "That sounds like it proves my case" Without bothering to actually read it. Now you're mad that it doesn't say what you thought it said There is no evidence that the mental distress individuals feel is from anything other than the gender dysphoria they are experiencing. Gender dysphoria is a negative mental health state that is present in most transgender people. There is no Substantial evidence that points to transgender people killing themselves With any significantly more frequency. There is substantial evidence that they think about suicide more and feel severely depressed and suicidal more but that is a result of their mental health problem and simply proves my point about it being a serious mental health issue I know you want it to be everybody else's fault but it just isn't 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
CrakHoBarbie Posted April 6 Report Posted April 6 14 minutes ago, CdnFox said: It's not an opinion, I'm referencing what you posted is supposed proof and they're findings. So here's what appears to have happened. As is often the case with you you started with an answer and tried to go to the web to find data that supported your answer, instead of starting with a question. You read some headlines and thought "That sounds like it proves my case" Without bothering to actually read it. Now you're mad that it doesn't say what you thought it said There is no evidence that the mental distress individuals feel is from anything other than the gender dysphoria they are experiencing. Gender dysphoria is a negative mental health state that is present in most transgender people. There is no Substantial evidence that points to transgender people killing themselves With any significantly more frequency. There is substantial evidence that they think about suicide more and feel severely depressed and suicidal more but that is a result of their mental health problem and simply proves my point about it being a serious mental health issue I know you want it to be everybody else's fault but it just isn't What i posted confirms that societal pressure, discrimination and stigma are the primary drivers of suicide attempts among transexuals. These are verified facts that cannot be reasonably denied. Its pieces of sh1t like you that drive transexuals to kill themselves. . 1 hour ago, User said: You are the one crying about all this, because the tide has turned against the Trans madness you evil people are pushing. I will keep pushing to completely eradicate it altogether, to save the children from your butchering them and drugging them. Said the id1ot. Quote
CdnFox Posted April 6 Report Posted April 6 3 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said: What i posted confirms that societal pressure, discrimination and stigma are the primary drivers of suicide attempts. No, it did not. Sorry. And actual science papers and medical research papers prove otherwise. This research done in 2023 shows that the primary cause of the stress and isolaiton is their disassociation as a result of their perception of what is "normal" for their perceived gender vs their actual sex. (PDF) Gender Dysphoria, Its Causes and Symptoms: A Review in other words, They don't feel like they fit in and that has nothing to do with people accepting them or not. Society says boys don't wear dresses, girls wear dresses. They know that physically they're a boy but they want to wear dresses and they feel like a girl and so they feel isolated and depressed. This is REGARDLESS of how they are accepted by society. Period. Which is why surgery, to try to bring their physical body more in synch with their mental perception, is something many crave. It's not enough to be a boy who's accepted for thinking like a girl, they want to be a girl and if they aren't it causes stress. I'm sure that someone actually abusing them for being trans makes it worse but that's not the big problem. That's the fact. People with gender dysphoria are going to suffer mental health issues NO MATTER WHAT others think. They will be depressed and lower functioning. THat's what makes it a disorder. 3 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said: Said the id1ot. Awww muffin, you have a cookie and a nap, you'll be fine. Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
User Posted April 6 Report Posted April 6 25 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said: Said the id1ot. An id1ot is someone like you who believes trans women are really women. A disgusting, perverted, sick, and demented person is someone like you who wants to push dudes into girls' personal spaces. An evil depraved person is someone like you who wants to butcher children and drug them up to push the trans madness onto them. Quote
CrakHoBarbie Posted April 6 Report Posted April 6 (edited) 6 minutes ago, User said: An id1ot is someone like you who believes trans women are really women. A disgusting, perverted, sick, and demented person is someone like you who wants to push dudes into girls' personal spaces. An evil depraved person is someone like you who wants to butcher children and drug them up to push the trans madness onto them. Trans women are Trans women. Cis woman are biological women. How many times do you need this explained to you peanut brain? I've given you the merriam webster dictionary definition, but you still cant grasp it. You know why? Because you're an imbicile. Just for you, A video of multiple people laughing in your face. 18 minutes ago, CdnFox said: No, it did not. Sorry. And actual science papers and medical research papers prove otherwise. This research done in 2023 shows that the primary cause of the stress and isolaiton is their disassociation as a result of their perception of what is "normal" for their perceived gender vs their actual sex. (PDF) Gender Dysphoria, Its Causes and Symptoms: A Review in other words, They don't feel like they fit in and that has nothing to do with people accepting them or not. Society says boys don't wear dresses, girls wear dresses. They know that physically they're a boy but they want to wear dresses and they feel like a girl and so they feel isolated and depressed. This is REGARDLESS of how they are accepted by society. Period. Which is why surgery, to try to bring their physical body more in synch with their mental perception, is something many crave. It's not enough to be a boy who's accepted for thinking like a girl, they want to be a girl and if they aren't it causes stress. I'm sure that someone actually abusing them for being trans makes it worse but that's not the big problem. That's the fact. People with gender dysphoria are going to suffer mental health issues NO MATTER WHAT others think. They will be depressed and lower functioning. THat's what makes it a disorder. Awww muffin, you have a cookie and a nap, you'll be fine. Your opinions have no merit. I wonder how many transexuals your kind will kill today? Edited April 6 by CrakHoBarbie Quote
User Posted April 6 Report Posted April 6 4 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said: Because you're an imbicile. An imbicile is someone like you who believes trans women are really women. A disgusting, perverted, sick, and demented person is someone like you who wants to push dudes into girls' personal spaces. An evil depraved person is someone like you who wants to butcher children and drug them up to push the trans madness onto them. Quote
CrakHoBarbie Posted April 6 Report Posted April 6 11 minutes ago, User said: An imbicile is someone like you who believes trans women are really women. A disgusting, perverted, sick, and demented person is someone like you who wants to push dudes into girls' personal spaces. An evil depraved person is someone like you who wants to butcher children and drug them up to push the trans madness onto them. Quote
CdnFox Posted April 6 Report Posted April 6 2 hours ago, CrakHoBarbie said: Your opinions have no merit. But the science does. And the science says i'm right and you're not. So there you go. 2 hours ago, CrakHoBarbie said: I wonder how many transexuals your kind will kill today? Well based on the numbers over the last year "My kind" will kill vastly fewer trans people than trans people will kill by shooting up a school or the like. So there you go. You're still 'murder positive' math wise. Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
CrakHoBarbie Posted April 6 Report Posted April 6 35 minutes ago, CdnFox said: But the science does. And the science says i'm right and you're not. So there you go. Well based on the numbers over the last year "My kind" will kill vastly fewer trans people than trans people will kill by shooting up a school or the like. So there you go. You're still 'murder positive' math wise. Absolute nonsense. "Research indicates that societal discrimination, anti-transgender stigma, and violence against transgender people are major contributors to high rates of suicide attempts and ideation. Studies, including those from the Williams Institute at UCLA School of Law, show a direct link between anti-transgender discrimination—such as loss of employment, housing, or physical attacks—and increased suicidality." https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiBla_Wj9qTAxUnIEQIHd7sPMgQFnoFCJABEAE&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwilliamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu%2Fpress%2Ftrans-suicide-discrim-press-release%2F&usg=AOvVaw024dUbCEjjeba4FNJvuLgP&opi=89978449 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiBla_Wj9qTAxUnIEQIHd7sPMgQFnoECC0QAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fcams-care.com%2Fresources%2Feducational-content%2F6-risk-factors-for-suicide-in-transgender-and-gender-diverse-adults%2F&usg=AOvVaw3tf8r-NNg8OdyhpwgozLG0&opi=89978449 https://www.apa.org/topics/lgbtq/mental-health-anti-transgender-legislation https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2211335516300882 Quote
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