CrakHoBarbie Posted January 30 Report Posted January 30 (edited) Notice gold and Silver skyrocketing? Notice trillions in U.S. treasuries being dumped by all of our former allies? Do you think these are unrelated. Guess again. Donald imbicilic trade wars, his alienating countries that hold trillions of U.S. dollars in the form of treasury bonds, his threats of attacking Canada and Greenland. All this buffoonery is causing our former allies to dump their Treasury bonds. Do you know what that is going to do to the value of the dollar, Einsteins? Donalds stupidity is going to tank the dollar. As all his lackeys gleefully dance around the edge of the financial abyss they helped dig. Yall penis brained f_ckwads were warned. Now, the Chickens are coming home to roost on all yalls faces. Enjoy. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwi8wuz-q7KSAxXkIUQIHe5OEPQQFnoECDIQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Ffortune.com%2F2026%2F01%2F23%2Fus-debt-war-escalation-dominance-europe-treasury-bonds-weaponization%2F&usg=AOvVaw21S1MB5OfnQP6qhHYrMJud&opi=89978449 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiruPyprLKSAxV3KEQIHSltGZcQFnoFCJIBEAE&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.barrons.com%2Farticles%2Ftrump-treasuries-greenland-tariff-threats-things-to-know-today-4ce1fbff%3Fgaa_at%3Deafs%26gaa_n%3DAWEtsqdCKYhpCdYSl5AK2o5Pz1m1qdOyxD9LyWcG6TNDpuRziqB4fT_NVT05%26gaa_ts%3D697c2c4c%26gaa_sig%3DBNwqJVK_HWOpJV3HpW11VX5Ey67-PnDRn77mDt4phIjYJB9p9QT4ZcPZJJpXMq6RgrBPVXdHuJ8qT-8jjN8PLA%3D%3D&usg=AOvVaw2HZIrtnosODQLwdTcolSjn&opi=89978449 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiruPyprLKSAxV3KEQIHSltGZcQFnoECE8QAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.brookings.edu%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2025%2F09%2F2_Hassan-et-al_unembargoed.pdf&usg=AOvVaw0H5UfQFFcaH3rjPKhevvdy&opi=89978449 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiruPyprLKSAxV3KEQIHSltGZcQFnoECHoQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bloomberg.com%2Fnews%2Ffeatures%2F2025-04-21%2Ftrump-s-trade-war-puts-us-dollar-bonds-safe-haven-status-at-risk&usg=AOvVaw1GHcQg4hbuoADFdbnENHlm&opi=89978449 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiC7Y_erLKSAxVuJ0QIHSIbM344FBAWegQILBAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fyeutter-institute.unl.edu%2Funderstanding-trumps-new-tariffs%2F&usg=AOvVaw0KpddH5dEeb9lk6hlNmxK5&opi=89978449 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiC7Y_erLKSAxVuJ0QIHSIbM344FBAWegQILxAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fdavid-skidmore.medium.com%2Ftrumps-trade-war-is-threatening-american-financial-power-e3f43515c752&usg=AOvVaw2wZOX2t7rPqI-Q2NHsFqyA&opi=89978449 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiC7Y_erLKSAxVuJ0QIHSIbM344FBAWegQIOBAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fgeopoliticaleconomy.com%2F2025%2F05%2F05%2Ftrump-tariffs-dedollarization-sell-us-dollar%2F&usg=AOvVaw2ni9T-eu2vvaKU1XzWQSWh&opi=89978449 Edited January 30 by CrakHoBarbie 3 Quote
Nationalist Posted January 30 Report Posted January 30 6 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said: Notice gold and Silver skyrocketing? Notice trillions in U.S. treasuries being dumped by all of our former allies? Do you think these are unrelated. Guess again. Donald imbicilic trade wars, his alienating countries that hold trillions of U.S. dollars in the form of treasury bonds, his threats of attacking Canada and Greenland. All this buffoonery is causing our former allies to dump their Treasury bonds. Do you know what that is going to do to the value of the dollar, Einsteins? Donalds stupidity is going to tank the dollar. As all his lackeys gleefully dance around the edge of the financial abyss they helped dig. Yall penis brained f_ckwads were warned. Now, the Chickens are coming home to roost on all yalls faces. Enjoy. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwi8wuz-q7KSAxXkIUQIHe5OEPQQFnoECDIQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Ffortune.com%2F2026%2F01%2F23%2Fus-debt-war-escalation-dominance-europe-treasury-bonds-weaponization%2F&usg=AOvVaw21S1MB5OfnQP6qhHYrMJud&opi=89978449 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiruPyprLKSAxV3KEQIHSltGZcQFnoFCJIBEAE&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.barrons.com%2Farticles%2Ftrump-treasuries-greenland-tariff-threats-things-to-know-today-4ce1fbff%3Fgaa_at%3Deafs%26gaa_n%3DAWEtsqdCKYhpCdYSl5AK2o5Pz1m1qdOyxD9LyWcG6TNDpuRziqB4fT_NVT05%26gaa_ts%3D697c2c4c%26gaa_sig%3DBNwqJVK_HWOpJV3HpW11VX5Ey67-PnDRn77mDt4phIjYJB9p9QT4ZcPZJJpXMq6RgrBPVXdHuJ8qT-8jjN8PLA%3D%3D&usg=AOvVaw2HZIrtnosODQLwdTcolSjn&opi=89978449 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiruPyprLKSAxV3KEQIHSltGZcQFnoECE8QAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.brookings.edu%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2025%2F09%2F2_Hassan-et-al_unembargoed.pdf&usg=AOvVaw0H5UfQFFcaH3rjPKhevvdy&opi=89978449 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiruPyprLKSAxV3KEQIHSltGZcQFnoECHoQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bloomberg.com%2Fnews%2Ffeatures%2F2025-04-21%2Ftrump-s-trade-war-puts-us-dollar-bonds-safe-haven-status-at-risk&usg=AOvVaw1GHcQg4hbuoADFdbnENHlm&opi=89978449 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiC7Y_erLKSAxVuJ0QIHSIbM344FBAWegQILBAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fyeutter-institute.unl.edu%2Funderstanding-trumps-new-tariffs%2F&usg=AOvVaw0KpddH5dEeb9lk6hlNmxK5&opi=89978449 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiC7Y_erLKSAxVuJ0QIHSIbM344FBAWegQILxAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fdavid-skidmore.medium.com%2Ftrumps-trade-war-is-threatening-american-financial-power-e3f43515c752&usg=AOvVaw2wZOX2t7rPqI-Q2NHsFqyA&opi=89978449 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiC7Y_erLKSAxVuJ0QIHSIbM344FBAWegQIOBAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fgeopoliticaleconomy.com%2F2025%2F05%2F05%2Ftrump-tariffs-dedollarization-sell-us-dollar%2F&usg=AOvVaw2ni9T-eu2vvaKU1XzWQSWh&opi=89978449 "AHHH! WE ALL GONNA DIIIEEE!" 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
paxamericana Posted January 30 Report Posted January 30 Dump the US dollar for what was it you’re claiming again? Gold? The stuff that generate no value and is a commodity subject to fear mongering? That’s the future currency???? So why are you all evaluating gold at USD prices, riddle me that!? Quote
User Posted January 30 Report Posted January 30 LOL, you spent all last week crying about not wanting to waste your time talking to folks on the right, and now you are here trolling for them. Quote
CrakHoBarbie Posted January 30 Author Report Posted January 30 1 hour ago, paxamericana said: Dump the US dollar for what was it you’re claiming again? Gold? The stuff that generate no value and is a commodity subject to fear mongering? That’s the future currency???? So why are you all evaluating gold at USD prices, riddle me that!? What? Read the citations halfwit. What a f_cking dunce you are. This is for adults. F_ck off 1 Quote
User Posted January 30 Report Posted January 30 15 hours ago, CrakHoBarbie said: What? Read the citations halfwit. What a f_cking dunce you are. This is for adults. F_ck off For adults? You act like a petulant child on this forum as a matter of routine. Quote
WestCanMan Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 18 hours ago, CrakHoBarbie said: What? Read the citations halfwit. What a f_cking dunce you are. This is for adults. F_ck off Gimme a break. You're a basic ret4rd who has absolutely no clue what you're talking about right now. Someone posted their opinion and it tickled your confirmation bias so now you're here preaching like a nutjob on a street corner. You remind me of robo when he quotes Dr Bimbo. "Duuuuuh, look at her boobies 🤤. She must be a reel dokter!" 2 Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
CrakHoBarbie Posted January 31 Author Report Posted January 31 (edited) 1 hour ago, WestCanMan said: Gimme a break. You're a basic ret4rd who has absolutely no clue what you're talking about right now. Someone posted their opinion and it tickled your confirmation bias so now you're here preaching like a nutjob on a street corner. You remind me of robo when he quotes Dr Bimbo. "Duuuuuh, look at her boobies 🤤. She must be a reel dokter!" What a f_ cking halfwit you are. You think you know more about economics then Cambridge, Harvard, the wall street journal, Barrons, J.P.Morgan and Bloomburg? Get a grip, you red hatted dotard https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjUsMiAxbSSAxWMD0QIHaEzGkUQFnoECCgQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cambridge.org%2Fcore%2Fjournals%2Finternational-organization%2Farticle%2Fdollar-diminished-the-unmaking-of-us-financial-hegemony-under-trump%2F67A0051D4C763B1C76089ED957D9D979&usg=AOvVaw3l8wlmyhdehjwOXgVrdm-n&opi=89978449 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjUsMiAxbSSAxWMD0QIHaEzGkUQFnoECGYQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hks.harvard.edu%2Fcenters%2Fmrcbg%2Fprograms%2Fgrowthpolicy%2Ftrumps-misguided-plan-weaken-dollar&usg=AOvVaw3U2Tx93fHctX_mXkvME4an&opi=89978449 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjUsMiAxbSSAxWMD0QIHaEzGkUQFnoFCIwBEAE&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.wsj.com%2Fopinion%2Fdonald-trump-weak-dollar-economy-exchange-rates-101b278a%3Fgaa_at%3Deafs%26gaa_n%3DAWEtsqf_jESKAj3jpJHhWz2FM_yxsFtlWW2GcHnxhy2uuaRMYz9LttV9CxA-%26gaa_ts%3D697d529b%26gaa_sig%3DkPUmq4wvfPJ1rDkmvjgS_wRrguf1jfJWwn_4F8SIQvASUtR-wj2UlHmNzKyJWumuJ5yfUHLeK3dFbJ7EK-OE5A%3D%3D&usg=AOvVaw1OGylS0PgP5M-qE8LQMwU4&opi=89978449 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjUsMiAxbSSAxWMD0QIHaEzGkUQFnoFCIkBEAE&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.barrons.com%2Fnews%2Fwhat-s-behind-trump-s-risky-cheap-dollar-dalliance-04f80126%3Fgaa_at%3Deafs%26gaa_n%3DAWEtsqcd_S_n0Nx-7hDMiN9fBZ6_w9WGngZ_mjXcJji0mloiiTOJmCgauFW9%26gaa_ts%3D697d529b%26gaa_sig%3DE_YGt6plYFgxe6XHoG-Jcfc4IiXw0hdHikvymmF22eukXfEGIkStiRzHkM_dPfTzSlzxdrCJ11Iz2r5vJwf4bg%3D%3D&usg=AOvVaw0Q95PJcfVOyyTbW_Z4syej&opi=Barron's, https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwj_l_mZxrSSAxUMO0QIHQ4EKIU4HhAWegQILhAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bloomberg.com%2Fnews%2Farticles%2F2025-03-28%2Ftrump-is-rattling-the-market-s-faith-that-the-dollar-is-a-haven&usg=AOvVaw2RN4ngugg7WTQCrxwhl9Ak&opi=89978449 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjj4LG6xrSSAxVEKEQIHdB3PZ04KBAWegQILBAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jpmorgan.com%2Finsights%2Fglobal-research%2Fcurrent-events%2Fus-tariffs&usg=AOvVaw0ymPSIbx99mEmQRMbx86P0&opi=89978449 Edited January 31 by CrakHoBarbie Quote
CrakHoBarbie Posted January 31 Author Report Posted January 31 50 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said: What a f_ cking halfwit you are. You think you know more about economics then Cambridge, Harvard, the wall street journal, Barrons, J.P.Morgan and Bloomburg? Get a grip, you red hatted dotard https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjUsMiAxbSSAxWMD0QIHaEzGkUQFnoECCgQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cambridge.org%2Fcore%2Fjournals%2Finternational-organization%2Farticle%2Fdollar-diminished-the-unmaking-of-us-financial-hegemony-under-trump%2F67A0051D4C763B1C76089ED957D9D979&usg=AOvVaw3l8wlmyhdehjwOXgVrdm-n&opi=89978449 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjUsMiAxbSSAxWMD0QIHaEzGkUQFnoECGYQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hks.harvard.edu%2Fcenters%2Fmrcbg%2Fprograms%2Fgrowthpolicy%2Ftrumps-misguided-plan-weaken-dollar&usg=AOvVaw3U2Tx93fHctX_mXkvME4an&opi=89978449 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjUsMiAxbSSAxWMD0QIHaEzGkUQFnoFCIwBEAE&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.wsj.com%2Fopinion%2Fdonald-trump-weak-dollar-economy-exchange-rates-101b278a%3Fgaa_at%3Deafs%26gaa_n%3DAWEtsqf_jESKAj3jpJHhWz2FM_yxsFtlWW2GcHnxhy2uuaRMYz9LttV9CxA-%26gaa_ts%3D697d529b%26gaa_sig%3DkPUmq4wvfPJ1rDkmvjgS_wRrguf1jfJWwn_4F8SIQvASUtR-wj2UlHmNzKyJWumuJ5yfUHLeK3dFbJ7EK-OE5A%3D%3D&usg=AOvVaw1OGylS0PgP5M-qE8LQMwU4&opi=89978449 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjUsMiAxbSSAxWMD0QIHaEzGkUQFnoFCIkBEAE&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.barrons.com%2Fnews%2Fwhat-s-behind-trump-s-risky-cheap-dollar-dalliance-04f80126%3Fgaa_at%3Deafs%26gaa_n%3DAWEtsqcd_S_n0Nx-7hDMiN9fBZ6_w9WGngZ_mjXcJji0mloiiTOJmCgauFW9%26gaa_ts%3D697d529b%26gaa_sig%3DE_YGt6plYFgxe6XHoG-Jcfc4IiXw0hdHikvymmF22eukXfEGIkStiRzHkM_dPfTzSlzxdrCJ11Iz2r5vJwf4bg%3D%3D&usg=AOvVaw0Q95PJcfVOyyTbW_Z4syej&opi=Barron's, https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwj_l_mZxrSSAxUMO0QIHQ4EKIU4HhAWegQILhAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bloomberg.com%2Fnews%2Farticles%2F2025-03-28%2Ftrump-is-rattling-the-market-s-faith-that-the-dollar-is-a-haven&usg=AOvVaw2RN4ngugg7WTQCrxwhl9Ak&opi=89978449 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjj4LG6xrSSAxVEKEQIHdB3PZ04KBAWegQILBAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jpmorgan.com%2Finsights%2Fglobal-research%2Fcurrent-events%2Fus-tariffs&usg=AOvVaw0ymPSIbx99mEmQRMbx86P0&opi=89978449 Crickets..... https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7FPELc1wEvk Quote
User Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 51 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said: Crickets..... https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7FPELc1wEvk Crickets… Quote
CdnFox Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 Yawn. Is the goat bleating again? Ahhh i see today's delusional rant is the dollar. Which is about what her opinion is worth No wonder it's getting devalued 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Deluge Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 On 1/29/2026 at 8:46 PM, CrakHoBarbie said: Notice gold and Silver skyrocketing? Notice trillions in U.S. treasuries being dumped by all of our former allies? Do you think these are unrelated. Guess again. Donald imbicilic trade wars, his alienating countries that hold trillions of U.S. dollars in the form of treasury bonds, his threats of attacking Canada and Greenland. All this buffoonery is causing our former allies to dump their Treasury bonds. Do you know what that is going to do to the value of the dollar, Einsteins? Donalds stupidity is going to tank the dollar. As all his lackeys gleefully dance around the edge of the financial abyss they helped dig. Yall penis brained f_ckwads were warned. Now, the Chickens are coming home to roost on all yalls faces. Enjoy. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwi8wuz-q7KSAxXkIUQIHe5OEPQQFnoECDIQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Ffortune.com%2F2026%2F01%2F23%2Fus-debt-war-escalation-dominance-europe-treasury-bonds-weaponization%2F&usg=AOvVaw21S1MB5OfnQP6qhHYrMJud&opi=89978449 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiruPyprLKSAxV3KEQIHSltGZcQFnoFCJIBEAE&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.barrons.com%2Farticles%2Ftrump-treasuries-greenland-tariff-threats-things-to-know-today-4ce1fbff%3Fgaa_at%3Deafs%26gaa_n%3DAWEtsqdCKYhpCdYSl5AK2o5Pz1m1qdOyxD9LyWcG6TNDpuRziqB4fT_NVT05%26gaa_ts%3D697c2c4c%26gaa_sig%3DBNwqJVK_HWOpJV3HpW11VX5Ey67-PnDRn77mDt4phIjYJB9p9QT4ZcPZJJpXMq6RgrBPVXdHuJ8qT-8jjN8PLA%3D%3D&usg=AOvVaw2HZIrtnosODQLwdTcolSjn&opi=89978449 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiruPyprLKSAxV3KEQIHSltGZcQFnoECE8QAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.brookings.edu%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2025%2F09%2F2_Hassan-et-al_unembargoed.pdf&usg=AOvVaw0H5UfQFFcaH3rjPKhevvdy&opi=89978449 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiruPyprLKSAxV3KEQIHSltGZcQFnoECHoQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bloomberg.com%2Fnews%2Ffeatures%2F2025-04-21%2Ftrump-s-trade-war-puts-us-dollar-bonds-safe-haven-status-at-risk&usg=AOvVaw1GHcQg4hbuoADFdbnENHlm&opi=89978449 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiC7Y_erLKSAxVuJ0QIHSIbM344FBAWegQILBAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fyeutter-institute.unl.edu%2Funderstanding-trumps-new-tariffs%2F&usg=AOvVaw0KpddH5dEeb9lk6hlNmxK5&opi=89978449 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiC7Y_erLKSAxVuJ0QIHSIbM344FBAWegQILxAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fdavid-skidmore.medium.com%2Ftrumps-trade-war-is-threatening-american-financial-power-e3f43515c752&usg=AOvVaw2wZOX2t7rPqI-Q2NHsFqyA&opi=89978449 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiC7Y_erLKSAxVuJ0QIHSIbM344FBAWegQIOBAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fgeopoliticaleconomy.com%2F2025%2F05%2F05%2Ftrump-tariffs-dedollarization-sell-us-dollar%2F&usg=AOvVaw2ni9T-eu2vvaKU1XzWQSWh&opi=89978449 Is it too late to change our vote to Kackles Harris and Tampon Tim??? *CRY HARDER!!!* Quote
gatomontes99 Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 Truth: the dollar is weakening because the fed held the interest rate too high for too long. There was speculation that the economy was slowing as well (because of tariffs), that caused it to weaken. The GDP is expected to grow, so that will offset some of what the Fed is doing. Since the Fed still has some rates to cut, the dollar will weaken some more. This is why the current Fed Chair is an abject failure. He drove the dollar into the ground because he was too stubborn to work with the POTUS. 1 Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
Hodad Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 25 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: Truth: the dollar is weakening because the fed held the interest rate too high for too long. There was speculation that the economy was slowing as well (because of tariffs), that caused it to weaken. The GDP is expected to grow, so that will offset some of what the Fed is doing. Since the Fed still has some rates to cut, the dollar will weaken some more. This is why the current Fed Chair is an abject failure. He drove the dollar into the ground because he was too stubborn to work with the POTUS. You simply shouldn't talk about economics. You get it wrong every time. High interest rates against modest inflation make the dollar MORE attractive to investors, not less. They strengthen the dollar. You've got it ass backward. In spite of the strong fundamentals he inherited, Trump is personally responsible for weakening the dollar. His behavior has damaged the brand. His tariff and trade policies are erratic, unpredictable and illogical. His alienation of allies and threats against NATO members are driving more uncertainty and negative sentiment. The dollar was attractive because it, like America's role in the world order, was steady and reliable. That was the brand. Trump is single-handedly destroying that. People just aren't as confident putting money into an asset that is no longer stable and predictable. And they literally don't like us. Trump is doing more for competitor China than Nixon ever did, driving the world to that economy at the expense of the American people. Because he's a goddamn buffoon. 1 Quote
CrakHoBarbie Posted January 31 Author Report Posted January 31 (edited) 1 hour ago, Hodad said: You simply shouldn't talk about economics. You get it wrong every time. High interest rates against modest inflation make the dollar MORE attractive to investors, not less. They strengthen the dollar. You've got it ass backward. In spite of the strong fundamentals he inherited, Trump is personally responsible for weakening the dollar. His behavior has damaged the brand. His tariff and trade policies are erratic, unpredictable and illogical. His alienation of allies and threats against NATO members are driving more uncertainty and negative sentiment. The dollar was attractive because it, like America's role in the world order, was steady and reliable. That was the brand. Trump is single-handedly destroying that. People just aren't as confident putting money into an asset that is no longer stable and predictable. And they literally don't like us. Trump is doing more for competitor China than Nixon ever did, driving the world to that economy at the expense of the American people. Because he's a goddamn buffoon. Just imagine, the combined st_pidity of all the red hats here, egos so fragile, that they insist on declaring they know more about economics than Cambridge, Harvard, the Wall Street journal, Barrons, J.P.Morgan and Bloomburg. Like petulant children with matches, that end up burning the whole house down, because they just couldn't understand the unintended consequences of their actions. Edited January 31 by CrakHoBarbie 1 Quote
gatomontes99 Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 (edited) 7 hours ago, Hodad said: You simply shouldn't talk about economics. You get it wrong every time. High interest rates against modest inflation make the dollar MORE attractive to investors, not less. Yes, it becomes more attractive, but it cannot be sustained. High interest rates are tanking our housing. We held the rates too high for too long so investors were grabbing dollars we have to come down now. We just do. Which means the dollar will as well. Virtually all of the strengthening was from an unsustainable interest rate that was enacted before this term. It was a rate that Trump publicly objected to as well. 7 hours ago, Hodad said: In spite of the strong fundamentals he inherited He did not inherit strong fundamentals. Millions of jobs that were reported NEVER EXISTED! We likely had a recession while fake increases in jobs propped up the perception. The GDP was very low when Trump took office and what was positive growth was ALL government and health care driven. Construction, manufacturing and every other sector was down. Despite trashing thousands of government jobs and deporting millions of job holders, we actually saw job growth in every quarter. Even with baby boomers retiring. The GDP is forecast to blow past 5% growth. It is absurdly delusional to say we have had anything other than a fantastic year. Oh, BTW, the S&P 500 hit another all time high this week. 7 hours ago, Hodad said: Trump is personally responsible for weakening the dollar. His behavior has damaged the brand. He damaged the brand? What is this, a perfume or an economy? He did not damage anything. That is a subjective statement with no factual backing. 7 hours ago, Hodad said: His tariff and trade policies are erratic, unpredictable and illogical. His alienation of allies and threats against NATO members are driving more uncertainty and negative sentiment. Not true or relevant. You fail to show any evidence or theory as to why any of these things would weaken the dollar, let alone that they are true. It is more subjective, loaded terms that lack substance. 7 hours ago, Hodad said: The dollar was attractive because it, like America's role in the world order, was steady and reliable. That was the brand. The dollar was not steady or reliable under Biden. In fact, it bounced from highs to lows. It was attractive because the volatility gave rise to opportunity. I don't think it was a coincidence that the dollar shot up when it became obvious Trump was going to win. 7 hours ago, Hodad said: Trump is single-handedly destroying that. People just aren't as confident putting money into an asset that is no longer stable and predictable. And they literally don't like us. Again, this is all subjective and not relevant. Applying tariffs did have a cooling affect on the dollar. Speculators thought the dollar would go through inflation as a result. It did not. High interest rates were the biggest driver. As I said above, we cannot sustain those rates. They have to come down. Our housing market needs it. Our AI economy needs it. Small businesses need it. The rate cut has to happen. But somebody has TDS (you know what thats like) and can't do the right thing because it would help Trump. Edited January 31 by gatomontes99 1 Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
CdnFox Posted February 1 Report Posted February 1 2 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: Yes, it becomes more attractive, but it cannot be sustained. High interest rates are tanking our housing. We held the rates too high for too long so investors were grabbing dollars we have to come down now. We just do. Which means the dollar will as well. If they lower interest rates it will drive inflation pressures up substantially. That's why they're resistant. The massive amounts of government spending happening right now already put a lot of upward pressure on inflation, and whether you agree with them or not the tariffs also put a certain pressure on inflation and that's just starting to have a serious impact now because it takes a while for that to show up in the supply chain If they lower interest rates I think you would see inflation becoming extremely serious and that's not good for America or Trump Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
gatomontes99 Posted February 1 Report Posted February 1 29 minutes ago, CdnFox said: If they lower interest rates it will drive inflation pressures up substantially. That's why they're resistant. The massive amounts of government spending happening right now already put a lot of upward pressure on inflation, and whether you agree with them or not the tariffs also put a certain pressure on inflation and that's just starting to have a serious impact now because it takes a while for that to show up in the supply chain If they lower interest rates I think you would see inflation becoming extremely serious and that's not good for America or Trump Tariffs entered the supply chain last October. Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
CdnFox Posted February 1 Report Posted February 1 5 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: Tariffs entered the supply chain last October. Well First off it takes a solid six months for that to show up fully as inflation. So those inflation pressures are going to be going up anyway. In addition a number of suppliers admitted that they were eating the tariff essentially initially but have stopped doing so so there is going to be increases. And in fact it's worth nothing that inflationary pressures right now are above target and are a concern. Which is why the bank he's reluctant. Inflation isn't rampant like it was under Biden but it is high and unfortunately that inflation is occurring on those already inflated prices from Biden. So people are struggling. Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
gatomontes99 Posted February 1 Report Posted February 1 (edited) 44 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Well First off it takes a solid six months for that to show up fully as inflation. So those inflation pressures are going to be going up anyway. In addition a number of suppliers admitted that they were eating the tariff essentially initially but have stopped doing so so there is going to be increases. And in fact it's worth nothing that inflationary pressures right now are above target and are a concern. Which is why the bank he's reluctant. Inflation isn't rampant like it was under Biden but it is high and unfortunately that inflation is occurring on those already inflated prices from Biden. So people are struggling. Obviously, more time will give us a better indication of what the tariffs have done to the cost to consumer as a whole. However, the doom and gloomers said we would be in a recession with out of control inflation by now. Has not happened. Will not happen. Edit: doom and bloomers? Thanks autocorrect Edited February 1 by gatomontes99 Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
CrakHoBarbie Posted February 1 Author Report Posted February 1 (edited) 51 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Well First off it takes a solid six months for that to show up fully as inflation. So those inflation pressures are going to be going up anyway. In addition a number of suppliers admitted that they were eating the tariff essentially initially but have stopped doing so so there is going to be increases. And in fact it's worth nothing that inflationary pressures right now are above target and are a concern. Which is why the bank he's reluctant. Inflation isn't rampant like it was under Biden but it is high and unfortunately that inflation is occurring on those already inflated prices from Biden. So people are struggling. What do you think is going to happen when all our former trade partners, who are holding trillions of U.S. dollars, dump all their U.S. treasury bonds? Here. Let me school you, dotard. "A mass dumping of U.S. Treasury bonds by foreign holders would likely trigger a severe, immediate financial crisis characterized by skyrocketing interest rates, a rapid devaluation of the dollar, and high inflation" That is the reality of where donalds imbicilic threats and trade wars has brought us. That fool all the red hats helped put into power, is about to crash our dollar, because hes a f_ckwit. Edited February 1 by CrakHoBarbie 1 Quote
gatomontes99 Posted February 1 Report Posted February 1 29 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said: What do you think is going to happen when all our former trade partners, who are holding trillions of U.S. dollars, dump all their U.S. treasury bonds? Here. Let me school you, dotard. "A mass dumping of U.S. Treasury bonds by foreign holders would likely trigger a severe, immediate financial crisis characterized by skyrocketing interest rates, a rapid devaluation of the dollar, and high inflation" That is the reality of where donalds imbicilic threats and trade wars has brought us. That fool all the red hats helped put into power, is about to crash our dollar, because hes a f_ckwit. They can't dump our bonds and trash our economy because they would trash their economy. 1 Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
User Posted February 1 Report Posted February 1 2 hours ago, CrakHoBarbie said: What do you think is going to happen when all our former trade partners, who are holding trillions of U.S. dollars, dump all their U.S. treasury bonds? What will happen if Aliens invade? Quote
CdnFox Posted February 1 Report Posted February 1 2 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: Obviously, more time will give us a better indication of what the tariffs have done to the cost to consumer as a whole. However, the doom and gloomers said we would be in a recession with out of control inflation by now. Has not happened. Will not happen. Edit: doom and bloomers? Thanks autocorrect I just want to start off by saying that in my opinion doom and Bloomers was more exciting Moving on to the topic at hand, we're not really talking about specifically whether or not tariffs will wind up being a good thing. We were actually talking about the fed rate and inflation. Tariffs may turn out to be a wonderful thing. Let's assume that they are for the sake of this discussion. But even if the long-term net benefit is good one thing that is 100% undeniable is that tariffs will have an upward pressure on inflation. And as I mentioned it's not the only thing, the current level of government spending will also have a strong upwards pressure on inflation. You cannot spend that much and not have an upward pressure on inflation, I can explain that in detail but at the end of the day it's the way it is. So that's two major pressures on inflation. And let's assume the economy starts actually heating up as you postulate. As I'm sure you're aware a thriving economy also puts upward pressure on inflation. If the fed were to lower its rates that would also put a great deal of upward pressure on inflation. We're talking big time, interest rates are one of the primary methods of controlling inflation. So the point is lowering the fed rate now could very easily be like striking a match to the powder keg of inflation that the country is already sitting on. That's why they're reluctant to do so Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
User Posted February 1 Report Posted February 1 2 hours ago, CrakHoBarbie said: That is the reality of where donalds imbicilic threats and trade wars has brought us. That fool all the red hats helped put into power, is about to crash our dollar, because hes a f_ckwit. But seriously, you want to give us a timeline on when this is so certain to happen, that way we can call you out for being the loon you are when it doesn't? Quote
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