Get ready Red Hats. Your Jesus is about to crash the dollar

[gatomontes99]

35 minutes ago, Hodad said:

So let's not move so quickly past the fact that you had the relationship between interest rates and the strength of the dollar ass backward, because it's a good segue into why the rest of this is also backward. None of that is subjective. It's basic economics and even more basic common sense. 

You need to learn how to read for comprehension. 

35 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Saying Trump’s tariffs didn’t damage the U.S. brand is like saying a food fight doesn’t make a mess because technically the walls are still standing. Sure, the country didn’t collapse, but the global perception of the U.S. as a stable, rules‑based trading partner took a pretty obvious hit.

Reality: nothing changed. Now that our GDP is exceeding 5%, it is changing for the better. That is why they are putting their money in the US. Under Biden, FDI was $5.7t. Last year, it was $3.6t. In one year, Trump increased FDI from under $200b to $3.6t. 

Tell me again how the rest of the world thinks our brand is damaged. 

 

[CrakHoBarbie]

 

So yeah, the Dow just cracked 50,000.  Magnificent, right? Donalds already jizzing on himself off on Truth Social about it being "the first time in History" . And all his brain-dead followers are acting like they just won the lottery.

Here's the thing these dumb c***s don't understand: 93% of all stock market wealth is owned by the top 10% of Americans. The top 1% alone own 54% of the entire stock market. The bottom 50% of Americans? They own a grand total of 1%. One f*****g percent.

So when Cletus and Karen RedHat are celebrating this Dow milestone from their double-wide, they're literally cheering for billionaires getting richer while they get absolutely f**k-all.

It's like applauding when your boss gets a Ferrari while you're eating ramen for dinner.

But here's where this gets properly terrifying - we've seen this exact movie before.

THE 1920s PLAYBOOK:

In the 1920s, the Dow went on an absolute tear - jumping from 63 in 1921 to 381 by September 1929. That's a six-fold increase. The "Roaring Twenties" - everyone was getting rich, speculation was rampant, people were buying stocks on margin (borrowing up to 75% of the purchase price), convinced the party would never end.

Sound familiar? Change "stocks on margin" to "overleveraged AI speculation" and we're looking at the same thing.

Then came the tariffs.

President Herbert Hoover, facing economic trouble, signed the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act in June 1930. It raised tariffs on over 20,000 imported goods - increasing average tariff rates from 40% to nearly 60%, roughly a 20 percentage point jump.

The goal? "Protect American workers from foreign competition."

The result? Global  catastrophe.

Trading partners retaliated immediately. Canada imposed new tariffs on 30% of US exports. France, Britain, Germany, Italy, Spain, Argentina, Australia, New Zealand, Switzerland - they all hit back. Global trade collapsed by 65% between 1929 and 1934. US exports to Europe fell from $2.3 billion in 1929 to $784 million in 1932.

Over 1,000 economists signed a petition begging Hoover not to sign it. He ignored them. The market tanked. By 1932, the Dow had lost 89% of its value, dropping from 381 to 41.

Unemployment jumped from 8% in 1930 to 25% by 1932-1933.

NOW LET'S LOOK AT DONALD'S PLAYBOOK:

Donald's second term started with tariffs galore. By April 2025, he'd jacked the average US tariff rate from 2.5% to 27% - the highest level in over a century. He's since negotiated some down, but we're still sitting at 16.8% as of late 2025.

He slapped tariffs on Canada, Mexico, China, the EU, and dozens of other countries using "emergency powers." Countries retaliated. Global trade started contracting. The stock market briefly crashed in April 2025 when he announced his "Liberation Day" tariffs - the Dow tumbled to the mid-36,000s.

But then he walked some of it back. Markets recovered. And now here we are at 50,000, with everyone acting like we've learned our lesson.

Except we haven't learned shite.

THE GOLD PARALLEL:

Here's where it gets interesting. In the 1920s and early 1930s, gold prices were fixed by the government at $20.67 per ounce. People couldn't directly own gold for much of this period. But you know what they could own? Gold mining stocks.

When the Depression hit and the stock market imploded, Homestake Mining - the largest US gold producer - shot up 474% between 1929 and 1933 while the Dow was losing 73% of its value. By the worst part of the crash (when the Dow lost 89%), Homestake had more than doubled.

In 1933, Roosevelt took the US off the gold standard. In 1934, he raised the official gold price to $35 per ounce - a 69% increase overnight. Gold became the ultimate safe haven as people lost faith in the financial system.

Fast forward to today: gold's been quietly climbing. Central banks worldwide are buying it up. Countries are diversifying away from US dollar holdings. And if Trump's tariff war escalates into another full-blown global trade collapse and stock market crash, where do you think smart money is going to run?

THE NIGHTMARE SCENARIO:

Here's how this plays out:

1. The False Peak: Stock market at all-time highs, driven by AI speculation and the belief that Donald's "deals" have solved everything. The wealthy get wealthier. The MAGA faithful celebrate gains they'll never see.

2. The Tariff Escalation: Donald, emboldened by his "success," pushes harder. More tariffs. More "reciprocal" bullshit. More emergency declarations. The Supreme Court ruling on his emergency tariff powers could either green-light unlimited economic warfare or kill it - either way creates massive uncertainty.

3. The Retaliation Spiral: Trading partners get sick of this shit. They retaliate harder. Global supply chains fracture. Costs skyrocket. The inflation that's been "contained" comes roaring back.

4. The Credit Crunch: Just like the 1920s, today's market is built on leverage - margin loans, corporate debt, overleveraged AI investments. When the music stops, it stops fast. Banks tighten lending. Credit dries up.

5. The Crash: Markets realize we've built a house of cards. The selloff begins. Because 93% of stocks are owned by the top 10%, when they start selling, the bottom drops out. Retail investors (the few who have anything) panic and sell at the bottom.

6. The Depression: Unemployment spikes. Consumer spending collapses. The real economy - the one Main Street actually lives in - goes into the shitter. But it's worse this time because we don't have the manufacturing base we had in 1929. We've offshored everything.

7. The Flight to Safety: Gold explodes. Just like Homestake in the 1930s, gold miners and physical gold become the only safe harbors. Governments that diversified away from the dollar look smart. Those that didn't, suffer.

THE DIFFERENCE THIS TIME:

The 1929 crash took down an economy that was still primarily domestic and industrial. We made shit. We grew shit. We could theoretically rebuild.

Today? Our economy is service-based, globally interconnected, and built on debt and speculation. We import everything. Our supply chains span the globe. A trade war doesn't just hurt exports - it chokes off the imports we depend on for everything from pharmaceuticals to computer chips to the food on our shelves.

Plus, we're starting from a position of $36 trillion in national debt. In 1929, we had debt but we had room to maneuver. Now? We're maxed out. When this bubble pops, we don't have the fiscal space to spend our way out like we did with the New Deal.

THE BOTTOM LINE:

These MAGA halfwits celebrating the Dow at 50,000 are like passengers on the Hindenburg popping champagne as they approach the mooring mast. They're so focused on the altitude they can't smell the hydrogen.

History doesn't repeat, but it sure as shit rhymes. And right now, we're rhyming with the worst economic disaster in modern history - except this time, the fall could be even harder because the structures we built our economy on are made of cheaper materials and held together with Chinese-manufactured duct tape.

The truly sick irony? When this house of cards collapses, it'll be the same working-class MAGA supporters who'll get crushed hardest. They don't own the stocks that are soaring. They will lose their jobs when global trade implodes. They'll lose their homes when they can't make payments. And they'll watch as the top 1% - who own 54% of the market - cash out, buy up assets at fire-sale prices, and consolidate even more wealth.

But sure, keep celebrating that Dow milestone, you dumb bastards. I'm sure it'll trickle down any day now.

Wave at the iceberg on your way past.

[User]

1 hour ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

So yeah, the Dow just cracked 50,000.  Magnificent, right? Donalds already jizzing on himself off on Truth Social about it being "the first time in History" . And all his brain-dead followers are acting like they just won the lottery.

So, when is the dollar going to crash? 

[gatomontes99]

Only a liberal could see record S&P and DOW coupled with a 5% GDP and find doom and gloom. 

Of course, the assumption is that when the rich do well, the poor don't. That isn't true. 

[Nationalist]

12 hours ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

 

So yeah, the Dow just cracked 50,000.  Magnificent, right? Donalds already jizzing on himself off on Truth Social about it being "the first time in History" . And all his brain-dead followers are acting like they just won the lottery.

Here's the thing these dumb c***s don't understand: 93% of all stock market wealth is owned by the top 10% of Americans. The top 1% alone own 54% of the entire stock market. The bottom 50% of Americans? They own a grand total of 1%. One f*****g percent.

So when Cletus and Karen RedHat are celebrating this Dow milestone from their double-wide, they're literally cheering for billionaires getting richer while they get absolutely f**k-all.

It's like applauding when your boss gets a Ferrari while you're eating ramen for dinner.

But here's where this gets properly terrifying - we've seen this exact movie before.

THE 1920s PLAYBOOK:

In the 1920s, the Dow went on an absolute tear - jumping from 63 in 1921 to 381 by September 1929. That's a six-fold increase. The "Roaring Twenties" - everyone was getting rich, speculation was rampant, people were buying stocks on margin (borrowing up to 75% of the purchase price), convinced the party would never end.

Sound familiar? Change "stocks on margin" to "overleveraged AI speculation" and we're looking at the same thing.

Then came the tariffs.

President Herbert Hoover, facing economic trouble, signed the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act in June 1930. It raised tariffs on over 20,000 imported goods - increasing average tariff rates from 40% to nearly 60%, roughly a 20 percentage point jump.

The goal? "Protect American workers from foreign competition."

The result? Global  catastrophe.

Trading partners retaliated immediately. Canada imposed new tariffs on 30% of US exports. France, Britain, Germany, Italy, Spain, Argentina, Australia, New Zealand, Switzerland - they all hit back. Global trade collapsed by 65% between 1929 and 1934. US exports to Europe fell from $2.3 billion in 1929 to $784 million in 1932.

Over 1,000 economists signed a petition begging Hoover not to sign it. He ignored them. The market tanked. By 1932, the Dow had lost 89% of its value, dropping from 381 to 41.

Unemployment jumped from 8% in 1930 to 25% by 1932-1933.

NOW LET'S LOOK AT DONALD'S PLAYBOOK:

Donald's second term started with tariffs galore. By April 2025, he'd jacked the average US tariff rate from 2.5% to 27% - the highest level in over a century. He's since negotiated some down, but we're still sitting at 16.8% as of late 2025.

He slapped tariffs on Canada, Mexico, China, the EU, and dozens of other countries using "emergency powers." Countries retaliated. Global trade started contracting. The stock market briefly crashed in April 2025 when he announced his "Liberation Day" tariffs - the Dow tumbled to the mid-36,000s.

But then he walked some of it back. Markets recovered. And now here we are at 50,000, with everyone acting like we've learned our lesson.

Except we haven't learned shite.

THE GOLD PARALLEL:

Here's where it gets interesting. In the 1920s and early 1930s, gold prices were fixed by the government at $20.67 per ounce. People couldn't directly own gold for much of this period. But you know what they could own? Gold mining stocks.

When the Depression hit and the stock market imploded, Homestake Mining - the largest US gold producer - shot up 474% between 1929 and 1933 while the Dow was losing 73% of its value. By the worst part of the crash (when the Dow lost 89%), Homestake had more than doubled.

In 1933, Roosevelt took the US off the gold standard. In 1934, he raised the official gold price to $35 per ounce - a 69% increase overnight. Gold became the ultimate safe haven as people lost faith in the financial system.

Fast forward to today: gold's been quietly climbing. Central banks worldwide are buying it up. Countries are diversifying away from US dollar holdings. And if Trump's tariff war escalates into another full-blown global trade collapse and stock market crash, where do you think smart money is going to run?

THE NIGHTMARE SCENARIO:

Here's how this plays out:

1. The False Peak: Stock market at all-time highs, driven by AI speculation and the belief that Donald's "deals" have solved everything. The wealthy get wealthier. The MAGA faithful celebrate gains they'll never see.

2. The Tariff Escalation: Donald, emboldened by his "success," pushes harder. More tariffs. More "reciprocal" bullshit. More emergency declarations. The Supreme Court ruling on his emergency tariff powers could either green-light unlimited economic warfare or kill it - either way creates massive uncertainty.

3. The Retaliation Spiral: Trading partners get sick of this shit. They retaliate harder. Global supply chains fracture. Costs skyrocket. The inflation that's been "contained" comes roaring back.

4. The Credit Crunch: Just like the 1920s, today's market is built on leverage - margin loans, corporate debt, overleveraged AI investments. When the music stops, it stops fast. Banks tighten lending. Credit dries up.

5. The Crash: Markets realize we've built a house of cards. The selloff begins. Because 93% of stocks are owned by the top 10%, when they start selling, the bottom drops out. Retail investors (the few who have anything) panic and sell at the bottom.

6. The Depression: Unemployment spikes. Consumer spending collapses. The real economy - the one Main Street actually lives in - goes into the shitter. But it's worse this time because we don't have the manufacturing base we had in 1929. We've offshored everything.

7. The Flight to Safety: Gold explodes. Just like Homestake in the 1930s, gold miners and physical gold become the only safe harbors. Governments that diversified away from the dollar look smart. Those that didn't, suffer.

THE DIFFERENCE THIS TIME:

The 1929 crash took down an economy that was still primarily domestic and industrial. We made shit. We grew shit. We could theoretically rebuild.

Today? Our economy is service-based, globally interconnected, and built on debt and speculation. We import everything. Our supply chains span the globe. A trade war doesn't just hurt exports - it chokes off the imports we depend on for everything from pharmaceuticals to computer chips to the food on our shelves.

Plus, we're starting from a position of $36 trillion in national debt. In 1929, we had debt but we had room to maneuver. Now? We're maxed out. When this bubble pops, we don't have the fiscal space to spend our way out like we did with the New Deal.

THE BOTTOM LINE:

These MAGA halfwits celebrating the Dow at 50,000 are like passengers on the Hindenburg popping champagne as they approach the mooring mast. They're so focused on the altitude they can't smell the hydrogen.

History doesn't repeat, but it sure as shit rhymes. And right now, we're rhyming with the worst economic disaster in modern history - except this time, the fall could be even harder because the structures we built our economy on are made of cheaper materials and held together with Chinese-manufactured duct tape.

The truly sick irony? When this house of cards collapses, it'll be the same working-class MAGA supporters who'll get crushed hardest. They don't own the stocks that are soaring. They will lose their jobs when global trade implodes. They'll lose their homes when they can't make payments. And they'll watch as the top 1% - who own 54% of the market - cash out, buy up assets at fire-sale prices, and consolidate even more wealth.

But sure, keep celebrating that Dow milestone, you dumb bastards. I'm sure it'll trickle down any day now.

Wave at the iceberg on your way past.

Hey...A Bernie Sanders acolyte.

The terminal loser.

[CrakHoBarbie]

12 hours ago, User said:

So, when is the dollar going to crash? 

The term "crash" was inaccurate. 

My bad.

 

[User]

1 hour ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

The term "crash" was inaccurate. 

My bad.

 

Your whole thread was based on this stupid assertion. 

The one where you bragged about how smart you were and how dumb everyone else was. Now you balk after all that and say "my bad?"

ROFL, you are a joke. 

So tell us then, what should the thread title have been, what is your claim about the dollar now, and when will that happen?

 

[CdnFox]

4 minutes ago, User said:

Your whole thread was based on this stupid assertion. 

The one where you bragged about how smart you were and how dumb everyone else was. Now you balk after all that and say "my bad?"

ROFL, you are a joke. 

So tell us then, what should the thread title have been, what is your claim about the dollar now, and when will that happen?

 

What kills me is the three pages of stubborn defense before admitting that the statement wasn't accurate.

I mean hell, any of us can make a statement and then evidence proves that it's inaccurate, but You can't drag the denial out for three pages and then turn around and say oh no I was wrong and run away

[User]

1 minute ago, CdnFox said:

What kills me is the three pages of stubborn defense before admitting that the statement wasn't accurate.

I mean hell, any of us can make a statement and then evidence proves that it's inaccurate, but You can't drag the denial out for three pages and then turn around and say oh no I was wrong and run away

Also, I have asked @CrakHoBarbie repeatedly for days now to tell us when the dollar will crash, all ignored up until now. 

 

[CdnFox]

28 minutes ago, User said:

Also, I have asked @CrakHoBarbie repeatedly for days now to tell us when the dollar will crash, all ignored up until now. 

 

Jerk! Unauthorized questions that are difficult to answer are a clear violation of her right to free speech! (probably) 

For her to have her right to free speech you need to remain silent!  

[CrakHoBarbie]

4 hours ago, User said:

Your whole thread was based on this stupid assertion. 

The one where you bragged about how smart you were and how dumb everyone else was. Now you balk after all that and say "my bad?"

ROFL, you are a joke. 

So tell us then, what should the thread title have been, what is your claim about the dollar now, and when will that happen?

 

I gave you enough citations to choke your pony.

How about you read them, halfwit.

Or, better yet, ask your nurse to read them , then explain it to you.

In the meantime,  here's a video im sure you can appreciate:

 

Edited February 8 by CrakHoBarbie

[CrakHoBarbie]

3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

What kills me is the three pages of stubborn defense before admitting that the statement wasn't accurate.

I mean hell, any of us can make a statement and then evidence proves that it's inaccurate, but You can't drag the denial out for three pages and then turn around and say oh no I was wrong and run away

I proved donald is speeding us closer to the end of dollar hegemony. 

But, you're right, "crash" was the wrong word.

So, in typical red hat fashion, may I suggest you just keep harping on the word "crash ", instead of making any useful comments.

Donalds persistent policy chaos, his on/off tariff nonsense and his threatening our allies with military intervention definitely is contributing to the long-term decline and diversification away from the dollar.

But, go ahead.

Say "crash" a few more times.

Its all you're worth.

Edited February 8 by CrakHoBarbie

[CrakHoBarbie]

3 hours ago, User said:

Also, I have asked @CrakHoBarbie repeatedly for days now to tell us when the dollar will crash, all ignored up until now. 

 

I have you on ignore.

Its only when I choose to address you that you'll  get a response. 

I typically put posters who continuously only spout dishonest blather on ignore.

But, you were correct. I was avoiding addressing the word "crash" with all yall red hats here. I was overly zealous, and i embarrassed myself.

But, we all make mistakes. 

[CrakHoBarbie]

On 2/5/2026 at 4:22 PM, gatomontes99 said:

 

Tell me again how the rest of the world thinks our brand is damaged. 

 

The rest of the World knows our brand has been damaged.

Only a gullible fool could see it otherwise. 

Here's multiple citations that support my claims:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjPx4C0_MqSAxXdD0QIHQx0IgcQFnoECDAQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Finsights.som.yale.edu%2Finsights%2Fbehind-closed-doors-ceos-say-trump-is-bad-for-business&usg=AOvVaw0yKzCpvGRr8hf_Cstueg_g&opi=89978449

 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjziqiS_cqSAxWlCbwBHeOGGqk4ChAWegQILxAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fcohen.house.gov%2FTrumpAdminTracker&usg=AOvVaw2lJ_qbWlWI7DiErhDxyBZw&opi=89978449

 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjziqiS_cqSAxWlCbwBHeOGGqk4ChAWegQIMhAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fca.finance.yahoo.com%2Fnews%2Ftrump-trade-war-wounds-brand-140145078.html&usg=AOvVaw3ZXBSNp5o3yjZRul3PVQV8&opi=89978449

 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjziqiS_cqSAxWlCbwBHeOGGqk4ChAWegQIMxAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.americanprogress.org%2Farticle%2F8-ways-trumps-turbulence-tax-is-costing-the-economy%2F&usg=AOvVaw0xzNKDxA8L4izLb92ZGc5k&opi=89978449

 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiU1r6-_cqSAxVSJkQIHdceJZ0QFnoECDMQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jpmorgan.com%2Finsights%2Fglobal-research%2Fcurrent-events%2Fus-tariffs&usg=AOvVaw0ymPSIbx99mEmQRMbx86P0&opi=89978449

 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiU1r6-_cqSAxVSJkQIHdceJZ0QFnoFCIcBEAE&url=https%3A%2F%2Fjournals.plos.org%2Fplosone%2Farticle%3Fid%3D10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0313204&usg=AOvVaw37uJK3VrtHc_VqBquKwF8t&opi=89978449

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjU8875_cqSAxXzEEQIHSMUCyE4FBAWegQILBAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.chathamhouse.org%2F2025%2F09%2Ftrumps-policies-and-actions-pose-serious-risks-corporate-america&usg=AOvVaw0pvW_WBHFX6QBmocmPFwFa&opi=89978449

[User]

41 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

I gave you enough citations to choke your pony.

How about you read them, halfwit.

Or, better yet, ask your nurse to read them , then explain it to you.

You were the clown claiming the dollar was going to crash, now you call me the halfwit?

It is not my job to figure out what your convoluted assertion is now that you backed off your original lie. 

 

27 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

I have you on ignore.

Its only when I choose to address you that you'll  get a response. 

I typically put posters who continuously only spout dishonest blather on ignore.

But, you were correct. I was avoiding addressing the word "crash" with all yall red hats here. I was overly zealous, and i embarrassed myself.

But, we all make mistakes. 

For the record, you were the one who claimed the dollar would crash. You were the dishonest one. 

You put me on ignore because you can't deal with being called out by me for the BS you post. 

 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

But, you're right, "crash" was the wrong word.

 

The only thing you proved is you're a twat. And you hung on to the whole crash thing for three pages insisting that it was any day now

You further insisted that countries were going to start selling off their us bonds and assets which I pointed out was absolutely nonsense and you ran and hid about that too

I don't know if you could have embarrassed yourself more without spending money on actual research to figure out how to do it

[CrakHoBarbie]

1 hour ago, User said:

You were the clown claiming the dollar was going to crash, now you call me the halfwit?

It is not my job to figure out what your convoluted assertion is now that you backed off your original lie. 

 

For the record, you were the one who claimed the dollar would crash. You were the dishonest one. 

You put me on ignore because you can't deal with being called out by me for the BS you post. 

 

Yes.

All you red hats are the epitome of perfect. 

Either respond to my citations, or gfy.

Sound good.

Yay!

 

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

Yes.

All you red hats are the epitome of perfect. 

 

 

No, it just looks like red hats are perfect because you blue hats suck so hard it seems that way by comparison  LOLOL

 

[CrakHoBarbie]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

 

You further insisted that countries were going to start selling off their us bonds and assets which I pointed out was absolutely nonsense and you ran and hid about that too

 

Countries are already starting to sell off their u.s. bonds shit for brains.

America is heavily reliant on global capital markets to fund its large, and growing budget deficits. Every year we need to persuade investors abroad to buy vast quantities of new Treasury bonds. And, as long as the US remained a predictable and reliable steward of the world’s financial system, it was smooth sailing.

But, we are no longer that predictable and reliable steward.

Thanks to donalds efforts to rewrite the rules of international trade, to pressure allies, to use coercion and blackmail,  and wantonly threaten our allies with annexation through military force, other countries are no longer certain about how the US will behave in the future.

Countries, like individual people, dont like to be threatened.  They dont like to be bullied nor coerced nor blackmailed.

It makes folks, and countries, yearn for some payback.

Now, yall are right. Dumping all their u.s. bonds at once would be cutting off their own noses to spite their faces.

But, IMHO, the rest of the World is not going to take donalds shit laying down.

And we'll all pay the price for donalds tomfoolery. 

 

 

Edited February 9 by CrakHoBarbie

[User]

56 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

Yes.

All you red hats are the epitome of perfect. 

Either respond to my citations, or gfy.

Sound good.

Yay!

 

What about your links? What is your point? 
 

[CrakHoBarbie]

15 hours ago, User said:

What about your links? What is your point? 
 

I just went over it with cdnfox, but, here ya go:

America is heavily reliant on global capital markets to fund its large, and growing budget deficits. Every year we need to persuade investors abroad to buy vast quantities of new Treasury bonds. And, as long as the US remained a predictable and reliable steward of the world’s financial system, it was smooth sailing.

But, we are no longer that predictable and reliable steward.

Thanks to donalds efforts to rewrite the rules of international trade, to pressure allies, to use coercion and blackmail,  and wantonly threaten our allies with annexation through military force, other countries are no longer certain about how the US will behave in the future.

Countries, like individual people, dont like to be threatened.  They dont like to be bullied nor coerced nor blackmailed.

It makes folks, and countries, yearn for some payback.

Now, yall are right. Dumping all their u.s. bonds at once would be cutting off their own noses to spite their faces.

But, IMHO, the rest of the World is not going to take donalds shit laying down.

And we'll all pay the price for donalds tomfoolery. 

 

[User]

1 minute ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

I just went over it with cdnfox, but, here ya go:

America is heavily reliant on global capital markets to fund its large, and growing budget deficits. Every year we need to persuade investors abroad to buy vast quantities of new Treasury bonds. And, as long as the US remained a predictable and reliable steward of the world’s financial system, it was smooth sailing.

But, we are no longer that predictable and reliable steward.

Thanks to donalds efforts to rewrite the rules of international trade, to pressure allies, to use coercion and blackmail,  and wantonly threaten our allies with annexation through military force, other countries are no longer certain about how the US will behave in the future.

Countries, like individual people, dont like to be threatened.  They dont like to be bullied nor coerced nor blackmailed.

It makes folks, and countries, yearn for some payback.

Now, yall are right. Dumping all their u.s. bonds at once would be cutting off their own noses to spite their faces.

But, IMHO, the rest of the World is not going to take donalds shit laying down.

And we'll all pay the price for donalds tomfoolery. 

 

You are still dealing in extremes and conflating Trump with America. Trump is President, he is not literally all of America nor are his impacts 100% bad or 100% good or 100% negative to other nations. 

So, back to the original point, when exactly will we all pay the price and what is that price?

You went from claiming the dollar would crash, so how can we measure the success of your doomsday predictions here that we will all pay the price?

 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

I just went over it with cdnfox, but, here ya go:

 

And failed there too  

 

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America is heavily reliant on global capital markets to fund its large, and growing budget deficits. Every year we need to persuade investors abroad to buy vast quantities of new Treasury bonds.

As I have explained to you that's not how quantitative easing works

. The FED winds up buying its own bonds. While foreign investment helps the reality is is it's not required for quantitative easing

Here's a short blurb from AI

Yes, the Federal Reserve frequently buys U.S. Treasury bonds and other government securities through "open market operations" to manage monetary policy, stabilize markets, and influence interest rates. It does not buy them directly from the Treasury Department, but rather from authorized financial institutions in the secondary market. 

So no America does not rely heavily on global Capital markets to fund its large and growing budget deficits

Further, bond interest rates are extremely low right now. They're even lower than they were under Biden which means the countries are buying them. If the US doesn't have the ability to sell them then the interest rate goes up and that hasn't happened

 

So once again you are 100% wrong and you do not understand how any of this works

There are issues with the economy right now and with the quantitative easing that's happening but you haven't actually touched on any of the real problems

Read a book before you wind up sounding like a twat

[CrakHoBarbie]

3 hours ago, User said:

You are still dealing in extremes and conflating Trump with America. Trump is President, he is not literally all of America nor are his impacts 100% bad or 100% good or 100% negative to other nations. 

So, back to the original point, when exactly will we all pay the price and what is that price?

You went from claiming the dollar would crash, so how can we measure the success of your doomsday predictions here that we will all pay the price?

 

I see.

You believe donalds acts of coercion, blackmail, his threats of  annexation through military force, that our former allies are just going to let that stand?

Surely,  you must have bumped your head.

That you would cower to donalds attacks, doesn't mean the rest of the World will.

You're a traitor to the Constitution and a coward.

Gfy

Edited February 9 by CrakHoBarbie

[User]

6 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

I see.

You believe donalds acts of coercion, blackmail, his threats of  annexation through military force, that our former allies are just going to let that stand?

Surely,  you must have bumped your head.

That you would cower to donalds attacks, doesn't mean the rest of the World will.

You're a traitor to the Constitution and a coward.

Gfy

You do not see anything. You are the one making this claim, and instead of defending it and providing some tangible facts that can be evaluated, you try to create a straw man of my beliefs when I have not provided any, and then resort to personal insults. 

Let's try this again:

Are you capable of providing anything of substance regarding your assertions here?