Get ready Red Hats. Your Jesus is about to crash the dollar

CdnFox · February 1

2 minutes ago, User said:

But seriously, you want to give us a timeline on when this is so certain to happen, that way we can call you out for being the loon you are when it doesn't?

You need a timeline for that? She became laughable so long ago you'd be better off with an archaeologist

CrakHoBarbie · February 1

10 hours ago, CdnFox said:

I just want to start off by saying that in my opinion doom and Bloomers was more exciting

Moving on to the topic at hand, we're not really talking about specifically whether or not tariffs will wind up being a good thing. We were actually talking about the fed rate and inflation.

Tariffs may turn out to be a wonderful thing. Let's assume that they are for the sake of this discussion. But even if the long-term net benefit is good one thing that is 100% undeniable is that tariffs will have an upward pressure on inflation.

And as I mentioned it's not the only thing, the current level of government spending will also have a strong upwards pressure on inflation. You cannot spend that much and not have an upward pressure on inflation, I can explain that in detail but at the end of the day it's the way it is.

So that's two major pressures on inflation.

And let's assume the economy starts actually heating up as you postulate. As I'm sure you're aware a thriving economy also puts upward pressure on inflation.

If the fed were to lower its rates that would also put a great deal of upward pressure on inflation. We're talking big time, interest rates are one of the primary methods of controlling inflation.

So the point is lowering the fed rate now could very easily be like striking a match to the powder keg of inflation that the country is already sitting on. That's why they're reluctant to do so

Why are you pivoting?

Oh, I know why.

You dont want to admit your Jesus is crashing the dollar.

You do remember the topic of this thread, right?

Just admit that the evidence clearly concludes that donalds imbicilic threats and tariffs wars are going to ruin the U.S. economy.

I've already posted multiple citations proving my point.

Go ahead.

No more pivots.

Just admit its true.

Its ok.

CrakHoBarbie · February 1

12 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

They can't dump our bonds and trash our economy because they would trash their economy.

Really?

Because you said so?

I see.

Can you produce any proof that what youve claimed is true?

Let's see the citations proving your point.

I'll wait......

CrakHoBarbie · February 1

12 hours ago, User said:

What will happen if Aliens invade?

Awww...

Nothing pertinent to say, so you play the fool...

Thats adorable.

Does that work with your mommy?

So precious 💖

Edited February 1 by CrakHoBarbie

CrakHoBarbie · February 1

On 1/29/2026 at 9:29 PM, User said:

LOL, you spent all last week crying about not wanting to waste your time talking to folks on the right, and now you are here trolling for them.

As usual, youve nothing worth two shits to offer.

I mostly ignore you, because you're a fool. And, once again youve proven me right.

Winning!!

gatomontes99 · February 1

11 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

Really?

Because you said so?

I see.

Can you produce any proof that what youve claimed is true?

Let's see the citations proving your point.

I'll wait......

https://www.ebc.com/forex/what-happens-if-the-us-dollar-collapses-explained-simply

There you go. The US economy and the dollar cannot collapse or it takes the world with it.

And...

https://ustr.gov/countries-regions

Goods Imports

The United States is the largest goods importer in the world. U.S. goods imports from the world totaled $3.2 trillion in 2022, up 14.6 percent ($413.7 billion) from 2021. China was the top supplier of goods to the United States, accounting for 16.5 percent of total goods imports. The top five suppliers of U.S. goods imports in 2022 were: China ($536.3 billion), Mexico ($454.8 billion), Canada ($436.6 billion), Japan ($148.1 billion), and Germany ($146.6 billion). U.S. goods imports from the European Union 27 were $553.3 billion.

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We are the biggest importer in the world. If our money crashes or our economy crashes, they take a huge hit.

Nationalist · February 1

11 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

As usual, youve nothing worth two shits to offer.

I mostly ignore you, because you're a fool. And, once again youve proven me right.

Winning!!

Actually...the US GDP has gone up past predictions for the last year.

Is the Greenback losing value? Yes.

Is that a result of Trump and/or his tariffs? No.

The damage has been done over the last 25 years, starting with Slick-Willy getting China into the WTO.

And that...my dear whore...happens to be the cut and dry truth of the matter.

Edited February 1 by Nationalist

CrakHoBarbie · February 1

1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said:

https://www.ebc.com/forex/what-happens-if-the-us-dollar-collapses-explained-simply

There you go. The US economy and the dollar cannot collapse or it takes the world with it.

I see. So you "think" that ebc knows more than Bloomburh, Harvard, Cambridge, the Wall Street Journal, J.P.Morgan & Morgan Stanley?

Ebc is a right wing garbage site.

Here's proof:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwj448Ko5riSAxXBJ0QIHawdEikQFnoECCQQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fazpnews.com%2Febc-politically-bias%2F&usg=AOvVaw1DUdnqenyqgCTh5-pV0WiO&opi=89978449

1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said:

And...

https://ustr.gov/countries-regions

Goods Imports

The United States is the largest goods importer in the world. U.S. goods imports from the world totaled $3.2 trillion in 2022, up 14.6 percent ($413.7 billion) from 2021. China was the top supplier of goods to the United States, accounting for 16.5 percent of total goods imports. The top five suppliers of U.S. goods imports in 2022 were: China ($536.3 billion), Mexico ($454.8 billion), Canada ($436.6 billion), Japan ($148.1 billion), and Germany ($146.6 billion). U.S. goods imports from the European Union 27 were $553.3 billion.

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We are the biggest importer in the world. If our money crashes or our economy crashes, they take a huge hit.

This is actually true.

Although some countries are reducing their reliance on the dollar (de-dollarization) to gain flexibility, an abrupt crash would still likely cripple their economies as well.

But, the more threats and tariffs,the less dollar hegemony, the more transitioning toward a multi-polar currency system.

We're looking at the end of dollar hegemony, which wouldn't of happened for decades, but for your Jesus's imbicilic actions.

Good job, kitty.

Kudos!

Edited February 1 by CrakHoBarbie

CrakHoBarbie · February 1

58 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Is the Greenback losing value? Yes.

Is that a result of Trump and/or his tariffs? No.

Wrong.

I've already proven through citations that donalds imbicilic actions are a major cause.

You should try doing a little research like @gatomantes99 did.

Then you too might have something relevant to say.

User · February 1

1 hour ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

As usual, youve nothing worth two shits to offer.

I mostly ignore you, because you're a fool. And, once again youve proven me right.

Winning!!

You are only proving you are a leftist cowardly troll.

1 hour ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

Awww...

Nothing pertinent to say, so you play the fool...

Thats adorable.

Does that work with your mommy?

So precious 💖

You are here speculating on an absurd hypothetical.

CrakHoBarbie · February 1

1 minute ago, User said:

You are only proving you are a leftist cowardly troll.

Oh my goodness.

Reality really pisses you off, huh red hat?

Perhaps if you drank less coffee?

Got more sleep?

Beat your wife less?

Just some friendly suggestions.

Nationalist · February 1

41 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

Wrong.

I've already proven through citations that donalds imbicilic actions are a major cause.

You should try doing a little research like @gatomantes99 did.

Then you too might have something relevant to say.

Barb...you're hardly in any position to assume relevance.

Did you happen to read the following?

https://www.reuters.com/markets/currencies/tariffs-or-no-tariffs-dollar-correction-is-finally-here-jen-2025-04-11/

Your whining is like pi55ing into a windstorm. Some devaluation is all part of repatriation.

Of course...one has to be clear of mind, to grasp the concept.

User · February 1

56 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

Oh my goodness.

Reality really pisses you off, huh red hat?

Perhaps if you drank less coffee?

Got more sleep?

Beat your wife less?

Just some friendly suggestions.

Reality?

OK. When is this big dollar crash going to happen? Lets see you explain this reality and stick behind what you say.

CrakHoBarbie · February 1

24 minutes ago, User said:

Reality?

OK. When is this big dollar crash going to happen? Lets see you explain this reality and stick behind what you say.

We'll see.

Watch how much higher precious metals go.

Precious metals going up is not a "good" sign.

Edited February 1 by CrakHoBarbie

User · February 1

2 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

We'll see.

LOL, I figured as much. You push this garbage and have no idea what you are talking about, and no guts to put anything on the line to back it up either way.

You are the equivalent of a street corner bum holding a sign saying, "The End is coming... sometime."

CdnFox · February 1

16 hours ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

What do you think is going to happen when all our former trade partners, who are holding trillions of U.S. dollars, dump all their U.S. treasury bonds?

Here.

Let me school you, dotard.

"A mass dumping of U.S. Treasury bonds by foreign holders would likely trigger a severe, immediate financial crisis characterized by skyrocketing interest rates, a rapid devaluation of the dollar, and high inflation"

That is the reality of where donalds imbicilic threats and trade wars has brought us.

That fool all the red hats helped put into power, is about to crash our dollar, because hes a f_ckwit.

LOL well look who worked up the courage to address me directly! Well done, i know that wasn't easy for you, i can be very intimidating to your kind

I don't think that any one, former trade partner or otherwise, is excited about dumping the bonds and precipitating a crisis that would massively impact them as well. There's no good reason to do that and tonnes of bad ones.

The whole world went into a massive recession the last time the us financial markets crashed due to the Democrat created housing bubble burst... nobody is eager to repeat that.

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"A mass dumping of U.S. Treasury bonds by foreign holders would likely trigger a severe, immediate financial crisis characterized by skyrocketing interest rates, a rapid devaluation of the dollar, and high inflation"

Well no. That would not be entirely accurate. It would create a credit crisis and it would definitely have a significant impact. But I doubt we'd see skyrocketing interest rates, and we almost certainly wouldn't see high inflation. Which makes sense, those two go hand in hand.

What we would see is another round of quantitative easing, the dollar would weaken against other currencies and we'd likely see the supply of money available to lenders around the world dry up, which would likely trigger a recession globally.

Generally recessions mean LOWER inflation. But... that's slim comfort of course.

For those reasons nobody is going to be mass dumping us bonds at all.

Now just to save time, i know you're not going to be able to refute any of that logically or from a position of knowledge, so you'll attack me and say "You think you're smarter than whatever economist i just read who confirms my bias?!?!!?"

Yes. I'm smarter.

Oh, and uh... thanks for "schooling" me LOLOL I always love LEARING from Democrats

Edited February 1 by CdnFox

CrakHoBarbie · February 1

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

There's no good reason to do that and tonnes of bad ones.

And yet, it is happening.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwie46KIq7mSAxXWJUQIHYoBCKUQFnoECCsQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Finternationalbanker.com%2Ffinance%2Fis-china-engaging-in-large-scale-dumping-of-us-treasury-securities%2F&usg=AOvVaw3b8xfdGesmBZ7-LFmJUSgA&opi=89978449

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiSgc2ErbmSAxUePkQIHaOUEE0QFnoFCIcBEAE&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.barrons.com%2Farticles%2Fchina-sells-treasuries-9-straight-months-91fc58a1%3Fgaa_at%3Deafs%26gaa_n%3DAWEtsqdtrj66t8rOCC9LOdNElv1UDveqDAMIf7QYhoBiTZCXg6v0HlLUNQ4qKwU2InE%3D%26gaa_ts%3D697fd890%26gaa_sig%3DU6yGo-afbWEznsOZv4Si56KwnCNBk_bM5zt8Xv4QNsGzCBg3FTSxBxImNTr7qiTimTTeUlvAO5F2-po6NZq3Mg%3D%3D&usg=AOvVaw1Bybtx4lVR94DtDObzczXG&opi=89978449

3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

LOL well look who worked up the courage to address me directly! Well done, i know that wasn't easy for you, i can be very intimidating to your kind

I don't think that any one, former trade partner or otherwise, is excited about dumping the bonds and precipitating a crisis that would massively impact them as well. There's no good reason to do that and tonnes of bad ones.

the dollar would weaken against other currencies and we'd likely see the supply of money available to lenders around the world dry up, which would likely trigger a recession globally.

Thank you for admitting im right.

3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Yes. I'm smarter.

I see.

And much more mature.

3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Oh, and uh... thanks for "schooling" me LOLOL I always love LEARING from Democrats

You are so welcome.Your admiration warms my heart.

gatomontes99 · February 1

5 hours ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

I see. So you "think" that ebc knows more than Bloomburh, Harvard, Cambridge, the Wall Street Journal, J.P.Morgan & Morgan Stanley?

Ebc is a right wing garbage site.

Here's proof:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwj448Ko5riSAxXBJ0QIHawdEikQFnoECCQQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fazpnews.com%2Febc-politically-bias%2F&usg=AOvVaw1DUdnqenyqgCTh5-pV0WiO&opi=89978449

This is actually true.

Although some countries are reducing their reliance on the dollar (de-dollarization) to gain flexibility, an abrupt crash would still likely cripple their economies as well.

But, the more threats and tariffs,the less dollar hegemony, the more transitioning toward a multi-polar currency system.

We're looking at the end of dollar hegemony, which wouldn't of happened for decades, but for your Jesus's imbicilic actions.

Good job, kitty.

Kudos!

The second link said the same thing as the first. So how is the first wrong and the second right? Your articles said the economy would crash if other countries sold bonds. They never said whether the other economies could survive such a reckless move.

Deluge · February 2

On 1/29/2026 at 11:10 PM, CrakHoBarbie said:

What?

Read the citations halfwit.

What a f_cking dunce you are.

This is for adults.

F_ck off

How much time do we have, professor?

CdnFox · February 2

12 hours ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

Why are you pivoting?

There's no pivoting sweetie, you're just a little slow.

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Oh, I know why.

Your meds need adjusting?

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You dont want to admit your Jesus is crashing the dollar.

I addressed that directly. 'neither jezuz or anyone else is crashing the dollar.

Your premise was that foreign govt's would cash in the treasury bonds and try to take down the system

I pointed out that no they won't, and if they did it wouldn't have the effect you thought it would exactly. But it'd suck.

You do remember the topic of this thread, right?

Just admit that the evidence clearly concludes that donalds imbicilic threats and tariffs wars are going to ruin the U.S. economy.

Quote

I've already posted multiple citations proving my point.

No, sorry they're hard fails.

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Go ahead.

No more pivots.

Just admit its true.

Its ok.

WAAAAAAAAHHHH BIG MEAN MAN SHOWED I'M WRONG!!!! STOP IT BIG MEAN MAN, JUST AGREE WITH ME BECAUSE MUHHHH FEEEEEEEELLLLS!!!!!!!!!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

LOL. Well you're nothing if not predictable in your lack of intelligent argument

You can't 'beg' me to agree with you, you have to make a rational argument and so far you havn't. Nobody is going to cash in all their us bonds. I'm sorry if the truth doesn't exactly fit your narrative, but the simple fact is countries are not going to start cashing in on america in substantial amounts any time soon. They'd be killing themselves to do it.

And if they did it would have a different effect than what you think, tho it would still be bad.

Now you know. Adjust your freakish cult views accordingly

Edited February 2 by CdnFox

User · February 2

18 hours ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

And yet, it is happening.

When is this big crash happening?

I want to be ready!

gatomontes99 · February 3

From my investment manager today:

"One of the more notable features of January was the coexistence of very strong equity inflows alongside steady bond demand. Investors are not rotating wholesale out of fixed income — they’re layering growth exposure on top of existing balance.

Momentum: January’s flows suggest investors are carrying risk forward into 2026, not de-risking after a strong multi-year run. That behavior is consistent with a soft-landing mindset rather than late-cycle panic."

If countries are selling bonds, they are taking profits as demand increases.

WestCanMan · February 3

@Crakho.... Why would we listen to your prediction about "the dollar being about to crash" when you were too dumb to even notice inflation at over 9%?

Your knowledge as an economist is like a zoologist that can't see any difference between a whale and a scorpion.

Nationalist · February 3

On 2/1/2026 at 5:41 PM, CrakHoBarbie said:

And yet, it is happening.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwie46KIq7mSAxXWJUQIHYoBCKUQFnoECCsQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Finternationalbanker.com%2Ffinance%2Fis-china-engaging-in-large-scale-dumping-of-us-treasury-securities%2F&usg=AOvVaw3b8xfdGesmBZ7-LFmJUSgA&opi=89978449

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiSgc2ErbmSAxUePkQIHaOUEE0QFnoFCIcBEAE&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.barrons.com%2Farticles%2Fchina-sells-treasuries-9-straight-months-91fc58a1%3Fgaa_at%3Deafs%26gaa_n%3DAWEtsqdtrj66t8rOCC9LOdNElv1UDveqDAMIf7QYhoBiTZCXg6v0HlLUNQ4qKwU2InE%3D%26gaa_ts%3D697fd890%26gaa_sig%3DU6yGo-afbWEznsOZv4Si56KwnCNBk_bM5zt8Xv4QNsGzCBg3FTSxBxImNTr7qiTimTTeUlvAO5F2-po6NZq3Mg%3D%3D&usg=AOvVaw1Bybtx4lVR94DtDObzczXG&opi=89978449

Thank you for admitting im right.

I see.

And much more mature.

You are so welcome.Your admiration warms my heart.

ROFLMAO...

Barb...you just go schooled.

You can go take a hit and re-dye your hair green.

CIAO...Barb...

Hodad · February 5

On 1/31/2026 at 5:35 PM, gatomontes99 said:

Yes, it becomes more attractive, but it cannot be sustained. High interest rates are tanking our housing. We held the rates too high for too long so investors were grabbing dollars we have to come down now. We just do. Which means the dollar will as well.

Virtually all of the strengthening was from an unsustainable interest rate that was enacted before this term. It was a rate that Trump publicly objected to as well.

He did not inherit strong fundamentals. Millions of jobs that were reported NEVER EXISTED! We likely had a recession while fake increases in jobs propped up the perception. The GDP was very low when Trump took office and what was positive growth was ALL government and health care driven. Construction, manufacturing and every other sector was down.

Despite trashing thousands of government jobs and deporting millions of job holders, we actually saw job growth in every quarter. Even with baby boomers retiring. The GDP is forecast to blow past 5% growth. It is absurdly delusional to say we have had anything other than a fantastic year. Oh, BTW, the S&P 500 hit another all time high this week.

He damaged the brand? What is this, a perfume or an economy? He did not damage anything. That is a subjective statement with no factual backing.

Not true or relevant. You fail to show any evidence or theory as to why any of these things would weaken the dollar, let alone that they are true. It is more subjective, loaded terms that lack substance.

The dollar was not steady or reliable under Biden. In fact, it bounced from highs to lows. It was attractive because the volatility gave rise to opportunity. I don't think it was a coincidence that the dollar shot up when it became obvious Trump was going to win.

Again, this is all subjective and not relevant. Applying tariffs did have a cooling affect on the dollar. Speculators thought the dollar would go through inflation as a result. It did not. High interest rates were the biggest driver. As I said above, we cannot sustain those rates. They have to come down. Our housing market needs it. Our AI economy needs it. Small businesses need it. The rate cut has to happen. But somebody has TDS (you know what thats like) and can't do the right thing because it would help Trump.

It has to come down! It just HAS to! Because the economy runs on wishes and dreams instead of supply and demand.

So let's not move so quickly past the fact that you had the relationship between interest rates and the strength of the dollar ass backward, because it's a good segue into why the rest of this is also backward. None of that is subjective. It's basic economics and even more basic common sense.

Saying Trump’s tariffs didn’t damage the U.S. brand is like saying a food fight doesn’t make a mess because technically the walls are still standing. Sure, the country didn’t collapse, but the global perception of the U.S. as a stable, rules‑based trading partner took a pretty obvious hit.

Tariffs aren’t inherently disastrous. When applied rationally, they are just tools. But Trump didn’t use them like tools. He used them like mood swings. One day China gets hit, the next day Europe, then Mexico, then maybe not, then maybe yes, then maybe we’ll “think about it.” Markets don’t love “we’ll see.” They love predictability. And nothing about those trade wars was predictable.

That’s where the “brand damage” comes in. (Well, that and threatening war on our NATO allies. And general, persistent, overwhelming repugnance.) Investors don’t just look at interest rates; they look at stability, consistency, and whether the world’s largest economy is being run like a G7 nation or Trump's stupid reality TV show. When you’re slapping tariffs on allies, threatening supply chains, and announcing major economic policy on Twitter at 2 a.m., you’re not exactly projecting “safe, reliable global anchor currency.”

Exports took a hit because foreign partners retaliated — as they always do — and because uncertainty itself is a tax. Companies don’t expand when they have no idea what tomorrow’s tariff list will look like. And yes, that kind of chaos weighs on the dollar. High interest rates can overpower a lot of noise, but they don’t erase the noise.

The dollar didn’t strengthen because of Trump’s trade wars; it strengthened despite them. High rates pulled capital in, while the tariff circus pushed confidence out. It’s like driving with one foot on the gas and one on the brake and then bragging that the car still moved forward.

And the idea that this was all some master plan? That's total bullshit.

So yes, the brand was damaged. You can’t run trade policy like a bipolar chihuahua and expect people to want to hold the currency as much as they have in the past. Stability is the product. Predictability is the product. And Trump’s trade wars were the opposite of both.

And Trump is the one who appointed Powell as fed chair, FFS. He doesn't have TDS (though like most people, I'm sure he finds Trump repugnant). The idea that Powell--and the rest of the Fed governors--are doing anything to spite Trump is freaking hysterical.

I mean, what do a group of the world's best economists know about economics that you and Trump don't? The only possible answer is that they're out to get him.🙄

The magic of the Trump cult is that he's convinced you guys to take economic advice from a man who's bankrupted six businesses--including casinos. Casinos, FFS!