herbie Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 Is it possible for any of you bleating whiners to start a thread without using an ignorant LIE in it's title? Like for example, any of us that have read a paper in print or on line, turned on a television or radio heard for weeks about Iran and our country's position on what's happening yet we see nothinbg but posts how "anything LEFT is ignoring it'. So what position do you think we should take? Maybe help restore Son of Shah and his Son of Savak so Iranians can continue to be be subjugated but at least be 'on our side'? Are we actively at war with the current regime and have some justification to actively intervene? What the hell do you want Carney to do? Cheer for the protestors all you want, it's up to them to decide their fate and they haven't asked for foreign intervention. 1 Quote
CITIZEN_2015 Posted January 26 Author Report Posted January 26 3 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Wow...it seems to me that the psycho is the one that keeps responding to me.... LOL Singling out on regime in a long list is narrow minded and you should be embarrassed by your lack of knowledge. You are making a mockery of yourself in public. You are calling an Iranian in contact with over a hundred friends and family living in Iran lacking knowledge about Iran. The psycho is the one who tries to falsely facts about a proven murderous regime and cover up their genocidal crimes against humanity. Shame on you. You are doing all these knowingly. 1 1 1 Quote
CITIZEN_2015 Posted January 26 Author Report Posted January 26 (edited) 3 hours ago, herbie said: So what position do you think we should take? Maybe help restore Son of Shah and his Son of Savak so Iranians can continue to be be subjugated but at least be 'on our side'? Are we actively at war with the current regime and have some justification to actively intervene? What the hell do you want Carney to do? Cheer for the protestors all you want, it's up to them to decide their fate and they haven't asked for foreign intervention. Are you illiterate? Because I have said repeatedly as what I want Canadian government to do. Do what the conservative party would have done if they were elected. I write it in big capital letters so that this time you see it. Deport the Islamic Republic operatives of this genocidal regime according to CSIS ESTIMATED TO BE 700 FROM CANADA. Edited January 26 by CITIZEN_2015 1 Quote
Army Guy Posted January 26 Report Posted January 26 (edited) Not sure they got that citizen, your going to have make it bigger.....and have some one using sign language in the corner and even then they are not going to understand.....now had this been about the US...they would be all over that like a fat kid on smarties... Edited January 26 by Army Guy 1 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
ironstone Posted January 26 Report Posted January 26 6 hours ago, herbie said: Cheer for the protestors all you want, it's up to them to decide their fate and they haven't asked for foreign intervention. Some of them are asking for help. "Protesters in Iran have appealed directly to Donald Trump for protection according to new videos sent to Iran International on Tuesday after the US president twice warned Tehran not to kill demonstrators or face US intervention." https://www.iranintl.com/en/202601068444 1 Quote Beware the Brookfield industrial complex...
ExFlyer Posted January 26 Report Posted January 26 (edited) 13 hours ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: You are making a mockery of yourself in public. You are calling an Iranian in contact with over a hundred friends and family living in Iran lacking knowledge about Iran. The psycho is the one who tries to falsely facts about a proven murderous regime and cover up their genocidal crimes against humanity. Shame on you. You are doing all these knowingly. Oh my...the psycho is back again... with more banter LOL The Iranians had a revolution that deposed the Shah and they demanded religious rule by an Ayatollah and here it is...they got what they wanted. They rioted and protested the US when they were bombed for their part in helping the Palestinians and and now asking the US for help with what they wanted...Ayatollah and religious rule Shame on you. You are doing all these knowingly that the Iranians chose the leaders they wanted. Edited January 26 by ExFlyer 1 Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
Venandi Posted January 26 Report Posted January 26 (edited) 12 hours ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: Are you illiterate? I think inattentive, narrative driven, ill informed and opinionated is more likely. If a MAGA CHUD had typed the post (directly above mine) about Palestinians, the resident Herbs would be hatching out multi-coloured kittens on the kitchen floor right now. Edited January 26 by Venandi 2 1 Quote
eyeball Posted January 26 Report Posted January 26 3 hours ago, ExFlyer said: You are doing all these knowingly that the Iranians chose the leaders they wanted. They did not choose to overthrow their elected government in 1953. The US and Britain should not be intervening in Iran to bring about another regime change. They should be announcing reparations and compensation for the damage and dysfunction their intervention in 1953 caused. Britain and the US have similar responsibilities in Palestine. We all do. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
ExFlyer Posted January 26 Report Posted January 26 2 minutes ago, eyeball said: They did not choose to overthrow their elected government in 1953. The US and Britain should not be intervening in Iran to bring about another regime change. They should be announcing reparations and compensation for the damage and dysfunction their intervention in 1953 caused. Britain and the US have similar responsibilities in Palestine. We all do. "The Shah of Iran, Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, was overthrown on February 11, 1979, during the Iranian Revolution, which brought Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini to power and established an Islamic republic." I agree, we need to keep our nose out of the stuff going on internally in Iran. It can very quickly become like the debacle in Gaza and with the Palestinians. Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
eyeball Posted January 26 Report Posted January 26 6 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: "The Shah of Iran, Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, was overthrown on February 11, 1979, during the Iranian Revolution, which brought Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini to power and established an Islamic republic." I agree, we need to keep our nose out of the stuff going on internally in Iran. It can very quickly become like the debacle in Gaza and with the Palestinians. Britain and the US also need to take responsibility for 1953 and causing the rise of a murderous regime that caused the revolt in 1979. It's a straight line from 1953 thru 1979 to 2026. 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
ExFlyer Posted January 26 Report Posted January 26 (edited) 37 minutes ago, eyeball said: Britain and the US also need to take responsibility for 1953 and causing the rise of a murderous regime that caused the revolt in 1979. It's a straight line from 1953 thru 1979 to 2026. Yeah OK. Look, 1953...72 years ago, one Shah took over from another Shah, then the revolt and then, tired of a monarchy, their society chose a religious leader. Not so straight a line LOL Bottom line...it is their choices that made them what they were and are. Edited January 26 by ExFlyer Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
eyeball Posted January 26 Report Posted January 26 35 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Yeah OK. Look, 1953...72 years ago, one Shah took over from another Shah, then the revolt and then, tired of a monarchy, their society chose a religious leader. Not so straight a line LOL Bottom line...it is their choices that made them what they were and are. You're leaving to much out. A CIA coup replaced a democratically elected leader with a brutal thug and enough Iranians were tired of being oppressed by the likes of SAVAK that it lead to 1979. Straight enough a line that it parallels other places today where dysfunction and chaos rules in the wake of similar interventions. Our allies made choices for Iranians too and we ignore and sweep these under the rug at our peril. 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
CITIZEN_2015 Posted January 26 Author Report Posted January 26 2 hours ago, eyeball said: They did not choose to overthrow their elected government in 1953. The US and Britain should not be intervening in Iran to bring about another regime change. They should be announcing reparations and compensation for the damage and dysfunction their intervention in 1953 caused. Britain and the US have similar responsibilities in Palestine. We all do. Oh damn the left. While the nation was just went through a massacre and still tens of thousands of those arrested are in danger of mass execution in prisons, as those wounded are being chased by security forces and many are being arrested, while reports of atrocities coming out of Iran in spite of total internet blackout imposed by the murderous regime, some f*cking idi*ts are going back 70 years, falsifying the history and trying to divert attention from genocide of Iranian civilians hence sharing the responsibility for the bloodbath. F*ck enemies of Iran. Long live USA. Long live Israel. 1 Quote
CITIZEN_2015 Posted January 26 Author Report Posted January 26 (edited) 55 minutes ago, eyeball said: You're leaving to much out. A CIA coup replaced a democratically elected leader with a brutal thug and enough Iranians were tired of being oppressed by the likes of SAVAK that it lead to 1979. Straight enough a line that it parallels other places today where dysfunction and chaos rules in the wake of similar interventions. Our allies made choices for Iranians too and we ignore and sweep these under the rug at our peril. THIS IS A F*CKING LIE. Mossadegh was NEVER ELECTED, democratically or otherwise. He was APPOINTED by the Shah. And the 1953 was a coup by him against the Shah. He disobeyed dismissal by the King who had the constitutional right to sack him, sent soldiers to arrest Shah but he fled the country before being arrested. One week later some people rose up in Shah's favor, CIA paid army officers to take over government buildings and arrest Mossadegh. The Shah canceled execution of him personally intervened. The coup in 1953 was by Mossadegh against the Shah. What followed a week later by CIA was a counter-coup. Damn the leftish lying ****** Edited January 26 by CITIZEN_2015 1 1 Quote
CITIZEN_2015 Posted January 26 Author Report Posted January 26 14 hours ago, ironstone said: Some of them are asking for help. "Protesters in Iran have appealed directly to Donald Trump for protection according to new videos sent to Iran International on Tuesday after the US president twice warned Tehran not to kill demonstrators or face US intervention." https://www.iranintl.com/en/202601068444 I have been to several demonstrations by Iranian diaspora in Canada. Tens of thousands. They unanimously call for TRUMP TO ACT NOW, before many more defenseless Iranians are killed or executed. We only stand a chance if US intervenes. Trump promised. We are millions but unarmed against armed to teeth very murderous mercenaries of this brutal regime. We stand no chance without foreign help. We want no boots on the ground. Just mass bombardment of repressive centers. Like the way France and Holland were liberated from Nazis by US. 1 Quote
CITIZEN_2015 Posted January 26 Author Report Posted January 26 2 hours ago, ExFlyer said: "The Shah of Iran, Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, God bless his soul. Now Iranians are shouting his name in millions risking death. They want his son to return and restore the golden years. 1 Quote
ExFlyer Posted January 26 Report Posted January 26 1 hour ago, eyeball said: You're leaving to much out. A CIA coup replaced a democratically elected leader with a brutal thug and enough Iranians were tired of being oppressed by the likes of SAVAK that it lead to 1979. Straight enough a line that it parallels other places today where dysfunction and chaos rules in the wake of similar interventions. Our allies made choices for Iranians too and we ignore and sweep these under the rug at our peril. No...My point is the population got what it wanted, now it is changing it's mind. Done with this.... Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
ExFlyer Posted January 26 Report Posted January 26 (edited) 52 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: God bless his soul. Now Iranians are shouting his name in millions risking death. They want his son to return and restore the golden years. Yup....and once again...they will get what they want and in a few year riot and protest again. The only thing consistent is a totally disorganized and disconsolate and dysfunctional middle east. Edited January 26 by ExFlyer Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
eyeball Posted January 26 Report Posted January 26 49 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: God bless his soul. Now Iranians are shouting his name in millions risking death. They want his son to return and restore the golden years. How about SAVAK? Can't wait I bet. No doubt they have a few constructive ideas on how to deal with lefties. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
eyeball Posted January 26 Report Posted January 26 3 hours ago, ExFlyer said: I agree, we need to keep our nose out of the stuff going on internally in Iran. It can very quickly become like the debacle in Gaza and with the Palestinians. I agree on this but I don't think we should ignore history, especially in light of the voices calling for western intervention again. Now is not the time to be ignoring how badly 1953 fùcked things up by pretending it doesn't matter or worse didn't happen. 1953 should be pointed out why the US shouldn't go in again. At the very least not without some acknowledgement, reconciliation a good dose of humility as a partner in an international coalition as opposed to leading the charge. That would be the fastest path to a debacle. Especially with Numbnuts in the Whitehouse. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
CITIZEN_2015 Posted January 26 Author Report Posted January 26 (edited) 39 minutes ago, eyeball said: How about SAVAK? Can't wait I bet. No doubt they have a few constructive ideas on how to deal with lefties. I have written already about SAVAK. I am tired of having to repeat myself. You cannot beat me when it comes to Iranian history because I am Iranian born there myself. When Savak was there, I was there too. I copied what I wrote before and paste it here : These are all lies. Savak was a secret police like CIA, MI6 OR CSIS. It was mostly acing against foreign enemies like Soviets and Arab states like Iraq and Egypt. Its counter-intelligent was the main part. You are right though it had an eye over enemies within Iran too. On the Soviet stooges like Tudeh party and Islamic terrorists like current murderous leader Khamenei was a prisoner of Savak and we all saw what kind of people Savak arrested like this son of the b*tch who upon release they started killing thousands of people and spreading hate and terror all over middle east. Iranians realized now that if the Shah had killed these bastards instead of just putting them in prison, Iran and Iranians and the ME and the world would have been a much better place. But Shah was not a murderer but wished to rule by popular rule. Also remember this was 50 to 90 years ago where most of the world even more advanced societies like Eastern Europe and Spain and Greece were under left or right dictatorships. What did you expect in a third world country like Iran? To be a democracy like Britain which by the way was colonizing half the planet? There were no democracy those days anywhere in the world when the Shah was in power. Even in great democracy Britain, in the 70's the MI6 was torturing IRA captives. Edited January 26 by CITIZEN_2015 Quote
CITIZEN_2015 Posted January 26 Author Report Posted January 26 27 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: No...My point is the population got what it wanted, now it is changing it's mind. Done with this.... Another idi*tic post. This is not the same population. 85% of population now are born after the 1979 and they are cursing their dead parents and grandparents who were fooled by Satan on the promise of free electricity and daily hefty oil revenue in the mail for them every day. Quote
ExFlyer Posted January 26 Report Posted January 26 36 minutes ago, eyeball said: I agree on this but I don't think we should ignore history, especially in light of the voices calling for western intervention again. Now is not the time to be ignoring how badly 1953 fùcked things up by pretending it doesn't matter or worse didn't happen. 1953 should be pointed out why the US shouldn't go in again. At the very least not without some acknowledgement, reconciliation a good dose of humility as a partner in an international coalition as opposed to leading the charge. That would be the fastest path to a debacle. Especially with Numbnuts in the Whitehouse. History, in this case is immaterial. What this society did decades ago means nothing to day. Those people are all but dead. What happend 72 years ago means nothing today except in your memory LOL 30 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: Another idi*tic post. This is not the same population. 85% of population now are born after the 1979 and they are cursing their dead parents and grandparents who were fooled by Satan on the promise of free electricity and daily hefty oil revenue in the mail for them every day. Yup...coming from you... makes even less sense LOL Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
eyeball Posted January 26 Report Posted January 26 34 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: There were no democracy those days anywhere in the world Yes well, in those days the Shiniest Beacon on the planet for democracy secretly overthrew a nascent emerging democracy and nowadays some 73% of humanity lives under the thumb of an autocrat. Truman should have blown the whistle on England and asked if there was anything it could do to help nurture a new Republic into being in a region that sorely needed. It's no too late, I just don't think America, on its own, is up to the task. I certainly wouldn't waste time hoping his stupid Board of Peace is capable either. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
eyeball Posted January 26 Report Posted January 26 (edited) 36 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: History, in this case is immaterial. What this society did decades ago means nothing to day. Those people are all but dead. What happend 72 years ago means nothing today except in your memory LOL Why is history immaterial especially when its so recent? Is this a universal principle or just one of convenience in this case? 72 years ago is within living memory. A society's, governments and institutions live much longer lifespans and are expected as such to embody, carry and maintain that society's collective values. These values often also encompass responsibility and liabilities which is why courts recognize things like land claims. In any case we all know what Einstein said about doing the same thing over and over again. Edited January 26 by eyeball 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
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