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If you think this doesn't have anything to do with why the UK and now Canada, want to shut you up on the internet.....you're an id10t.

"There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe."

~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~

Posted
1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

1-2. Fast thinking? I've watched this going on for years.

3. Again...I cannot trust any of the institutions. You shouldn't either.

4. We have to at least try. Make it clear to all that if you're here fcking over our society, your time here will be limited.

5. I disagree. Growth can be achieved by increasing prosperity. We dont need to import anyone for that.

Answer: No. But I would add to that, both the USA and Canada must revamp our welfare systems to force able bodied people to work. Change the expectation and promote family actively. The rest will take care of itself. 

1.2. You'll have to read the book to get the explanation.
3. I think i pointed out that you trust some of the press.  If you use any cites on here, you likely trust SOME institutions enough, but maybe not fully.
4. We do have criminal courts for that.
5. "Increasing prosperity"... yes of course.  You don't HAVE to import people but it sure makes it easier, which is why everybody does it.

Your answer was "No, but..." and then the but part had nothing to do with my question.

If there is statistical proof that Blacks are more likely to be violent criminals why would we let them in ?

1 hour ago, Legato said:

More obfuscation, more assertions, more word games.

Bottom line, attacks by Islamists are happening daily and a thousand PEW articles won't change that fact.

Only a fraction of the total occur in the West but don't offer that fact as solace to the victims.

Taliban, Islamic State (and affiliates), Boko Haram, Al Shabaab, Al Qaeda are all currently active. Their main goal is to further the Islamic faith and eliminate anyone who is not.

 

Ok... night night... (Michael tucks Legato into their blanket and smooches them on the forehead)

I'm off to obfusgate and play my games elsewhere... 

 

Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase !

Michael Hardner

Posted
1 hour ago, West said:

5.

Maybe some do, but thats not my position. I am more of a "risk/reward" type guy on the situation. I see very little in reward by bringing in people who may want to murder a bunch of your citizens. Many people, specially Liberals and NDP, and Democrat party types do not want to have that discussion, however

Ok - are YOU then in favour of banning American Blacks, based on crime statistics.  That is, no American Blacks allowed into Canada period.  All good ?  If not, why ?

55 minutes ago, Goddess said:

 1. Do you think it might be because these countries are importing masses of men from countries that view women as subhuman?

 

 

1. Maybe ?  I need more than screenshots though.  I don't accept gut reactions to things, even my own.
 

 

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Michael Hardner

Posted
46 minutes ago, User said:

No, you are hyper focused on one tiny point about a poll you have, but when it comes down to it in May other threads, where you can’t grasp on to something like that, you quickly turn the discussion into obfuscation and do “run away”

Ok.... I don't think there's much point in digging up old threads to prove I've been a bad discussion partner.  You made your assessment of me, probably should close it off there.

I will point out that the people who call me names and insult me continue to post to me, even when I am engaged with somebody else.

Sorry I don't measure up... sincerely...

45 minutes ago, Goddess said:

I'll take the word of the women of Europe over your stupid Pew poll.

Meh.... if something is true, there are facts to back it up.  Keep looking and post it.

Yeah, maybe they're importing young men who are rapists, but let's see about it instead of just rolling our eyes at each other.

 

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Michael Hardner

Posted

The politicians, the courts and the police have not helped the women of Europe and they will not help women in Canada either.

A man is caught with videos of children being beaten, tortured, sexually abused, bestiality included and what does the Liberal justice system do? It panics… yes panics... about deporting him.

The judge looks at this nightmare fuel and says, “You know what the real injustice here would be? Immigration consequences.”

 

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This is why so many of us have zero patience left for the useful id10ts who cheer on this mass importing of men from cultures that hate women, like MH.

"There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe."

~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~

Posted (edited)
10 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Ok - are YOU then in favour of banning American Blacks, based on crime statistics.  That is, no American Blacks allowed into Canada period.  All good ?  If not, why ?

1. Maybe ?  I need more than screenshots though.  I don't accept gut reactions to things, even my own.
 

I don't think American blacks have declared a religious war on Canada. If they do, then maybe would consider it. 

 

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Posted
4 minutes ago, West said:

I don't think American blacks have declared a religious war on Canada. If they do, then maybe would consider it. 

All Muslims are at Religious War with Canada ?  Try again...

What I am getting at is there's no way to objectively screen "a people" out from coming here.

 

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Michael Hardner

Posted
17 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

1.2. You'll have to read the book to get the explanation.
3. I think i pointed out that you trust some of the press.  If you use any cites on here, you likely trust SOME institutions enough, but maybe not fully.
4. We do have criminal courts for that.
5. "Increasing prosperity"... yes of course.  You don't HAVE to import people but it sure makes it easier, which is why everybody does it.

Your answer was "No, but..." and then the but part had nothing to do with my question.

If there is statistical proof that Blacks are more likely to be violent criminals why would we let them in ?

Ok... night night... (Michael tucks Legato into their blanket and smooches them on the forehead)

I'm off to obfusgate and play my games elsewhere... 

 

I can't refute anything so I offer some sort condescending waffle to cover for my inability to see.

Posted
20 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Maybe ? 

I think you know.

You just don't care.

It's more important that you appear "progressive" and virtue signal.

"There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe."

~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~

Posted
19 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

All Muslims are at Religious War with Canada ?  Try again...

What I am getting at is there's no way to objectively screen "a people" out from coming here.

Fair. 

I see it as emotional manipulation, however, to be made out to be "Nazi" by some for questioning why we are importing people who end up mass murdering people due to their religion. The jews ought to be able to live in peace without harassment or death threats. 

Posted (edited)
46 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Keep looking and post it.

I posted rape statistics.

I posted that the women in the UK know who is raping them.

Everybody there knows, as someone else posted. Mass protests all over.

Mass immigration from countries that hate women.

Are you that dense that you can't put 2 and 2 together?

You don't know what to think until the TV tells you what to think?

But you're right, why listen to the people?  What do they know, amirite?

Hey!  You would make a great politician.

They don't listen to the people either.

Edited by Goddess

"There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe."

~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~

Posted (edited)

Jail 👇

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No jail 👇

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Could this be why the English are rioting in the streets over immigration?

Nooooooo.

They must be just all racists.

Edited by Goddess

"There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe."

~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~

Posted
41 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

All Muslims are at Religious War with Canada ?  Try again...

What I am getting at is there's no way to objectively screen "a people" out from coming here.

Sorry, "objective" doesn't apply to a belief system that murders unbelievers. You lock them all out just to be sure. 

Posted
15 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Ob NOES!!!!  A radical leftist called right wingers a nazi!!! 

Someone has to. Those people here claiming to be conservatives sure can't tell a Nazi from themselves anymote.

Posted
2 hours ago, Legato said:

I can't refute anything so I offer some sort condescending waffle to cover for my inability to see.

I refuted your claims about PEW.  At that point you started throwing personal comments...

All done now, bye.

2 hours ago, Goddess said:

I think you know.

You just don't care.

It's more important that you appear "progressive" and virtue signal.

Well... you know... I gave you a path forward.  If you want to be a lazy sod and do like the others and make claims on my personality based on your own feminine "hunches" go at it.

But ... what do you expect me to do ?  Answer your claims that I don't care and I'm worried about progressive virtue signalling ?  I'll tell you that the progressives come after me when they don't like what I post either... sometimes they cast aspersions on my personally.

Anyway, let's park this then.  I still like you...

 

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Michael Hardner

Posted
2 hours ago, West said:

 

I see it as emotional manipulation, however, to be made out to be "Nazi" by some for questioning why we are importing people who end up mass murdering people due to their religion. The jews ought to be able to live in peace without harassment or death threats. 

Yeah, we're nearing the point where you can make such claims and NOT get called a Nazi.  Certainly you can do that now for questions of "general" immigration policy.

I don't call people Nazis as a general rule unless they self-identify as such.  I think that happened one time on here...

 

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Michael Hardner

Posted
Just now, Michael Hardner said:

Yeah, we're nearing the point where you can make such claims and NOT get called a Nazi.  Certainly you can do that now for questions of "general" immigration policy.

I don't call people Nazis as a general rule unless they self-identify as such.  I think that happened one time on here...

You've been a gentleman though if you scroll up you'll see what we deal with on the regular.

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Posted
2 hours ago, Goddess said:

I posted rape statistics.

I posted that the women in the UK know who is raping them.

Everybody there knows, as someone else posted. Mass protests all over.

Mass immigration from countries that hate women.

Are you that dense that you can't put 2 and 2 together?

You don't know what to think until the TV tells you what to think?

But you're right, why listen to the people?  What do they know, amirite?

Hey!  You would make a great politician.

They don't listen to the people either.

If you want me to continue, you should at least decide whether I am an honest poster or not.
Otherwise, what do you expect me to do ?  Spend time looking at numbers, arguments... only to have you say I'm biased, progressive, virtue-signalling when I'm done ?

Why would I waste my time?

Make up your mind if you want to discuss with me or not.

Just now, West said:

You've been a gentleman though if you scroll up you'll see what we deal with on the regular.

I generally don't read posts from the progressives on here at all.

I am my own person.  I don't align with anyone.

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Michael Hardner

Posted
1 hour ago, Deluge said:

Sorry, "objective" doesn't apply to a belief system that murders unbelievers. You lock them all out just to be sure. 

Oh, you're back... I had to scroll back to recall... you didn't insult me so let's keep going.

The "belief system" is represented in a Holy Book replete with calls of violence towards the infidel.  It's more violent than the Bible which has its own calls for violence towards enemies, stoning of gays and so on...

But what to do ?

Clearly we can't condemn a religion for having violence in their holy books.  The idea seems to be that Christians don't take it literally... well... except fundamentalists... except they don't... except... 

No easy answers.

I will state that Islamic Fundamentalism is a unique threat that deserves special attention, including security measures.  But banning all Muslims from coming isn't a good idea for practical and moral purposes.

I can make a better case for keeping African Americans out, and people recoil at that idea.

 

 

 

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Michael Hardner

Posted
11 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Oh, you're back... I had to scroll back to recall... you didn't insult me so let's keep going.

The "belief system" is represented in a Holy Book replete with calls of violence towards the infidel.  It's more violent than the Bible which has its own calls for violence towards enemies, stoning of gays and so on...

But what to do ?

Clearly we can't condemn a religion for having violence in their holy books.  The idea seems to be that Christians don't take it literally... well... except fundamentalists... except they don't... except... 

No easy answers.

I will state that Islamic Fundamentalism is a unique threat that deserves special attention, including security measures.  But banning all Muslims from coming isn't a good idea for practical and moral purposes.

I can make a better case for keeping African Americans out, and people recoil at that idea.

The problem is that "mainstream" Muslims fail to stamp out the terrorist arm of Islam - they're either afraid to stop it or they agree with what the terrorists are doing. Either way, everyone needs to be denied. 

Also, Islam doesn't do well in a free Christian society so that's another reason to lock them all out. 

Posted
3 hours ago, Goddess said:

Yup. Every weekend, all across the UK.  For a year now.

And the MSM won't touch it with a ten-foot pole.

It really started in earnest when this happened in Jan, last year:

Teenager who murdered three children at Southport dance class pleads guilty | The Crown Prosecution Service

Look at the picture of good ol' Axel. There's a look only a mother could love.

Such beautiful refugees...eh?

 

Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.

Posted
18 minutes ago, Deluge said:

1. The problem is that "mainstream" Muslims fail to stamp out the terrorist arm of Islam - they're either afraid to stop it or they agree with what the terrorists are doing. Either way, everyone needs to be denied. 

2. Also, Islam doesn't do well in a free Christian society so that's another reason to lock them all out. 

1. Well... I have read that before.  I can't think of other examples where people are blamed for the actions of the same subgroup and it's legitimate.  Anti-Semitism in the face of Israel policies isn't accepted, blaming Christians for the Crusades etc. shouldn't be.  I would say you're on shaky ground if you apply that principle.  The descendents of the criminals, and the people who live in the same demographic group have to pay for those actions indirectly through attitudes.  That includes every group, such as Christians.

Every Catholic priest I have known personally is a wonderful person.  But if they walk into a room, what are people thinking ?  Are Catholics to blame for the abuse that Priests did ?  What about Scout Leaders ?  Tough one.

2. Reform Christians only exist in Western nations though, so we should allow them to flourish.

 

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Michael Hardner

Posted
1 minute ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. Well... I have read that before.  I can't think of other examples where people are blamed for the actions of the same subgroup and it's legitimate.  Anti-Semitism in the face of Israel policies isn't accepted, blaming Christians for the Crusades etc. shouldn't be.  I would say you're on shaky ground if you apply that principle.  The descendents of the criminals, and the people who live in the same demographic group have to pay for those actions indirectly through attitudes.  That includes every group, such as Christians.

Every Catholic priest I have known personally is a wonderful person.  But if they walk into a room, what are people thinking ?  Are Catholics to blame for the abuse that Priests did ?  What about Scout Leaders ?  Tough one.

2. Reform Christians only exist in Western nations though, so we should allow them to flourish.

1. The crusades were hundreds of years ago, and there hasn't been a crusade since. Now, explain how the crusades was terrorism, because it sounds like that is exactly where you are going. Or are you just trying to say that Saladin and the rest of the Islamics were the good guys. 

Catholicism and the Boy Scouts don't have terrorist arms - Islam does. 

2. Reform Christians are Christians, therefore, they can flourish because they're Christians, not Muslims.  

 

Posted
3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

1.2. You'll have to read the book to get the explanation.
3. I think i pointed out that you trust some of the press.  If you use any cites on here, you likely trust SOME institutions enough, but maybe not fully.
4. We do have criminal courts for that.
5. "Increasing prosperity"... yes of course.  You don't HAVE to import people but it sure makes it easier, which is why everybody does it.

Your answer was "No, but..." and then the but part had nothing to do with my question.

If there is statistical proof that Blacks are more likely to be violent criminals why would we let them in ?

Ok... night night... (Michael tucks Legato into their blanket and smooches them on the forehead)

I'm off to obfusgate and play my games elsewhere... 

3. I have a simple rule. 'If it swims like a fish, it ain't a horse.' No matter what source it is. What? Were under the impression I believe people like Hanity?

4. Our courts have failed almost as much as the media. Come-on Mike. How many previously convicted criminals need to be released to society, only to rape and kill more, before you realize that? The courts are politicized as Hell. 

5. It depends on who you import.

Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.

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