Canada life expectancy falling, goes from 5th in the world to 22nd. ... not just QUALITY of life, libs have taken away ACTUAL life as well

[CdnFox]

Opinion: Canada slides downward in life expectancy rankings | Calgary Herald

we have fallen from 5th in the world for life expectancy down to 22nd in the world. The role that the liberal federal government has played in this is significant, funding was largely cut under Trudeau and remains low at this time and immigration was such that it's significantly exceeded our medical ability to keep up.

We already knew that the liberals had severely impacted our quality of life and that our GDP to capita ratio was low. But now we find that we're not even getting as much life as we should be in the first place

The liberals have literally been the death of Canada and Canadians

[gatomontes99]

This is the life cycle of socialized [insert program here].

Stage 1 - Big promises, lofty goals.

Stage 2 - Implementation

Stage 3 - Over spending and cuts

Stage 4 - Blame game (you are here)

Stage 5 - program death 

Stage 5 is where the program shrinks to something useless but it can never be fully defunded. If it lost all funding that would be admitting that socialized government does not work.

[John Stone]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Opinion: Canada slides downward in life expectancy rankings | Calgary Herald

we have fallen from 5th in the world for life expectancy down to 22nd in the world. The role that the liberal federal government has played in this is significant, funding was largely cut under Trudeau and remains low at this time and immigration was such that it's significantly exceeded our medical ability to keep up.

We already knew that the liberals had severely impacted our quality of life and that our GDP to capita ratio was low. But now we find that we're not even getting as much life as we should be in the first place

The liberals have literally been the death of Canada and Canadians

............arguably the lack of concern in the Health Care portfolio was only exceeded by the lack of concern in the defense portfolio. 

[The federal government is planning a massive increase in the number of immigrants entering Canada, with a goal of bringing in 500,000 people in 2025.]

completely whack a doodle. 

The announcement signals a significant increase from the 405,000 immigrants that came to Canada last year and the 465,000 expected to arrive next year.]

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Opinion: Canada slides downward in life expectancy rankings | Calgary Herald

From the OP article,

Now, what would you say if we told you that in 1990 Canada ranked fifth in life expectancy, and that in 2023 it was ranked 22nd? Canada experienced a 17-point decrease in rank. And how would you respond to evidence that the reasons for Canada’s decline in rankings are the same ones that had you shaking your head about the U.S. — growing income and wealth inequality, indifference to citizens suffering housing and food insecurity, lack of unionized jobs and a health-care system in crisis.

I'd say fùck the submarines and fighter jets, we have more important things that need funding. Oh, I'd also say tax the snot out of the rich.

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

The liberals have literally been the death of Canada and Canadians

There were a couple of  Conservative governments in between 1990 and 2023 as well don't forget.

And the date at which things begin sliding in both countries coincides sharply with the effects from the previous decade of laissez-faire Reaganomics really starting to bite.  As I recall conservatives were roaring their approval at the way things were heading...growing income and wealth inequality, indifference to citizens suffering housing and food insecurity, lack of unionized jobs...attended of course by a creeping desire for privatizing health care.

But sure, blame the left who saw where it was all heading. It's always priceless watching conservatives getting all woke to this stuff 35 years too late.

In any case now that I've dragged fighter jet and submarine funding into the picture I'm sure the federal goalposts everyone's taking a kick at will be repositioned into the Provincial endzone where responsibility for health is.

Personally I think just about all of it belongs in the 1%'s endzone.

And by that I mean shrinking income and wealth inequality, less indifference to citizens suffering housing and food insecurity, more unionized jobs and a health-care system that lives up to the other promises we were given when the world went laissez-faire.  And yes they should pay for the fùcking submarines and jets too.

Now sit back and watch as conservative heads explode.

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, eyeball said:

I'd say fùck the submarines and fighter jets, we have more important things that need funding. Oh, I'd also say tax the snot out of the rich.

I have bad news for you, that's what we have been saying for the last 10 years. That's how we got here

3 hours ago, eyeball said:

There were a couple of  Conservative governments in between 1990 and 2023 as well don't forget.

Mostly liberal, and the worst of it happened in the last 10 years. Which party was in charge then again?  

Btw   chretien and trudeau both DECREASED health transfers as a percent of cost, harper increased them. 

3 hours ago, eyeball said:

And the date at which things begin sliding in both countries coincides sharply with the effects from the previous decade of laissez-faire Reaganomics really starting to bite.

No, that's not accurate. And we have never had anything remotely close to a 'laissez-faire'  market or economy. I've told you not to use words you don't understand. 

3 hours ago, eyeball said:

 

As I recall conservatives were roaring their approval at the way things were heading...growing income and wealth inequality, indifference to citizens suffering housing and food insecurity, lack of unionized jobs...attended of course by a creeping desire for privatizing health care.

You recall incorrectly.  Conservatives were not happy about the chretien way of doing things at all.  Maybe some of the red tories but not that many. 

Sounds like what you're really saying here is that you're desperate to defend the liberals and their record. And to do so you'll make up any manner of bullshit.  Why am i not shocked. 

 

[Barquentine]

On 11/29/2025 at 6:41 PM, CdnFox said:

The liberals have literally been the death of Canada and Canadians

From the same article:

"Now, what would you say if we told you that in 1990 Canada ranked fifth in life expectancy, and that in 2023 it was ranked 22nd?"

What would I say? 12 of those years were Conservative govt's.

From the same article:

"Admittedly, Canadian life expectancy in 2023 of 81.7 years is higher than it was in 1990 at 77.5 years,"

Thank you Liberals for increasing our life expectancy!

Thank you CdnFoxnetwork for bringing this to our attention.

Edited December 1, 2025 by Barquentine

[Legato]

28 minutes ago, Barquentine said:

From the same article:

"Now, what would you say if we told you that in 1990 Canada ranked fifth in life expectancy, and that in 2023 it was ranked 22nd?"

What would I say? 12 of those years were Consevative govt's.

From the same article:

"Admittedly, Canadian life expectancy in 2023 of 81.7 years is higher than it was in 1990 at 77.5 years,"

Thank you Liberals for increasing our life expectancy!

Thank you CdnFoxnetwork for bringing this to our attention.

Nice cherry picking, here's the full quote....

Admittedly, Canadian life expectancy in 2023 of 81.7 years is higher than it was in 1990 at 77.5 years, but, for the past three out of four years, it has declined in absolute terms and is not keeping up with increases in all these other nations. OECD statistics on life expectancy can be found on its website.

[ExFlyer]

"in 1990 Canada ranked fifth in life expectancy, and that in 2023 it was ranked 22nd?"

So, in 33 years we lost 17 places???

No one said anything abut the fact that we also have gotten a lot fatter, "the prevalence of obesity in Canadian adults has more than tripled when comparing actual measured weight data from 1985 to 2015/2016 (from 6.1% to 26.4%), indicating a large shift in average population weight.".

Also " Canadian life expectancy in 2023 of 81.7 years is higher than it was in 1990 at 77.5 years,"

So quality of life is debatable but we are living longer too. Is that a liberal issue as well??? LOL

Many things have changed in the past 33 years.

Edited November 30, 2025 by ExFlyer

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Barquentine said:

From the same article:

"Now, what would you say if we told you that in 1990 Canada ranked fifth in life expectancy, and that in 2023 it was ranked 22nd?"

What would I say? 12 of those years were Consevative govt's.

25 of them were liberal.  and we maintained our ranking without sliding during the harper years.  Again, harper increased medical spending per capita, trudeau and chretien did not. 

2 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Admittedly, Canadian life expectancy in 2023 of 81.7 years is higher than it was in 1990 at 77.5 years,"

Thank you Liberals for increasing our life expectancy!

they increased it at a far lower rate than anyone else.  Other countries all increased theirs much more.  

The liberals held canadians back and now we die sooner than we should. 

What do have to say to that?

1 hour ago, Legato said:

Nice cherry picking, here's the full quote....

Admittedly, Canadian life expectancy in 2023 of 81.7 years is higher than it was in 1990 at 77.5 years, but, for the past three out of four years, it has declined in absolute terms and is not keeping up with increases in all these other nations. OECD statistics on life expectancy can be found on its website.

Well @Barquentine?  Care to comment on your dishonesty?

Again liberals have cut medical funding under chretien AND justin, while harper increased it per capita.  Soooo...  are you so desperte to protect your liberals that you're ok with Canadians dying sooner?

[John Stone]

In 2024, over 5 percent of all deaths in Canada were attributed to medical assistance in dying (MAID) - over 16K. 

[blackbird]

28 minutes ago, John Stone said:

In 2024, over 5 percent of all deaths in Canada were attributed to medical assistance in dying (MAID) - over 16K. 

Yes, and that will lower the average life expectancy of Canadians too.  

The strange thing is the "die with dignity organization and it's followers" have been able to sell their fake narrative to many of the politicians who make the MAID laws.  It seems practically nobody challenges their claims about "dying with dignity".  MAID is not death with dignity no matter how you frame it.  It is premeditated killing and suicide combined.

[John Stone]

14 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Yes, and that will lower the average life expectancy of Canadians too.  

The strange thing is the "die with dignity organization and it's followers" have been able to sell their fake narrative to many of the politicians who make the MAID laws.  It seems practically nobody challenges their claims about "dying with dignity".  MAID is not death with dignity no matter how you frame it.  It is premeditated killing and suicide combined.

 

14 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Yes, and that will lower the average life expectancy of Canadians too.  

The strange thing is the "die with dignity organization and it's followers" have been able to sell their fake narrative to many of the politicians who make the MAID laws.  It seems practically nobody challenges their claims about "dying with dignity".  MAID is not death with dignity no matter how you frame it.  It is premeditated killing and suicide combined.

.............could become (is?) a slippery slope. 

Edited November 30, 2025 by John Stone

[CdnFox]

5 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

"in 1990 Canada ranked fifth in life expectancy, and that in 2023 it was ranked 22nd?"

So, in 33 years we lost 17 places???

Yeah, and that's horrible. 

ANd most of it was lost under liberals. Harper actually did fairly well restoring some of the funding to the provinces that chretien had cut. 

Of course trudeau got in and it went down again.

The liberals have cost a lot of canadians their lives.  Not just their quality of life, which is ALSO down under the libs. 

 

[SpankyMcFarland]

Some of this relative decline must be due to our lifestyle which we share with the Americans, eg a diet too high in sugar and saturated fat? Our people are thinly spread out over a cold country which doesn’t help either; in many communities, fresh fruit and vegetables are prohibitively expensive. In addition, our First Nations have particularly severe health problems. 

Edited November 30, 2025 by SpankyMcFarland

[CdnFox]

3 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

Some of this relative decline must be due to our lifestyle which we share with the Americans, eg a diet too high in sugar and saturated fat?

Possibly except we know that our obesity rates are actually much lower than the Americans and they're going up the list whereas we're going down.

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Our people are thinly spread out over a cold country which doesn’t help either; in many communities, fresh fruit and vegetables are prohibitively expensive. In addition, our First Nations have particularly severe health problems. 

It's always been fairly cold, not much change there in the last 40 years or so. Under the liberals we've had more food insecurity since the last decade but I honestly just don't see it having that kind of impact

And our first nations aren't any more sick today than they've been in the past

[John Stone]

........... good health begins with education. 

[TreeBeard]

2 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

Some of this relative decline must be due to our lifestyle which we share with the Americans, eg a diet too high in sugar and saturated fat? Our people are thinly spread out over a cold country which doesn’t help either; in many communities, fresh fruit and vegetables are prohibitively expensive. In addition, our First Nations have particularly severe health problems. 

Much of the “decline” is also other countries increasing their life expectancy and catching up with us.  It’s not the doom and gloom that the OP thinks it is. 

[Legato]

49 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

Much of the “decline” is also other countries increasing their life expectancy and catching up with us.  It’s not the doom and gloom that the OP thinks it is. 

and why are they catching up, maybe because we are slowing down?

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, John Stone said:

........... good health begins with education. 

I feel like there's a fair bit of education with regards to health out there, where do you feel we've been following short?

1 hour ago, TreeBeard said:

Much of the “decline” is also other countries increasing their life expectancy and catching up with us.  It’s not the doom and gloom that the OP thinks it is. 

No stats, no links, and it doesn't make any sense.

What a perfectly leftist response

[SpankyMcFarland]

4 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

Much of the “decline” is also other countries increasing their life expectancy and catching up with us.  It’s not the doom and gloom that the OP thinks it is. 

Yes, it’s relative decline. A country like Ireland, for example, has seen an explosion in living standards in recent decades. 

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

Yes, it’s relative decline. A country like Ireland, for example, has seen an explosion in living standards in recent decades. 

So why are we seeing reduced living standards?

You're trying to excuse the inexcusable. You're trying to explain why you think it's okay that our government is allowing us to die earlier than we should and why our medical system is failing.

You are so in love and beholden to the liberals that you would rather see Canadians die than admit we might have a problem that needs to be addressed.

You should take a minute and think about what that says about you

[blackbird]

Of course a longer life expectancy is desirable, but we can't always control how long we will be here.  We could be gone tomorrow, or even today.  The bigger question is where will you spend eternity?  I know where I will be. Thanks be to God for His unspeakable gift. 

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WHERE WILL  YOU
SPEND ETERNITY?
by: Pastor Max Solbrekken, D.D.   

DO YOU KNOW WHERE YOU WILL SPEND ETERNITY?

"And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: (Hebrews 9:27)

Jesus said, "What shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?" (Mark 8:34-38)

ONE DAY "TIME SHALL BE NO MORE"

One day an angel will place one foot on the sea and the other on the dry land and lifting his hand to heaven, swear by Him that liveth forever and ever, that "Time shall be no more." (Revelation 10:5-6)

Then, the sun will go out like a candle in the wind, the moon will turn to dripping blood, the stars will fall from heaven.  The sky will roll away like a scroll and the earth will melt with burning heat!

The clocks of time will all stop and the ‘wheel of eternity’ will begin! A thousand years will come and go - A million years will be like a drop in the bucket and eternity’s wheel will just have begun to move.

HAVE YOU WONDERED WHAT WILL HAPPEN WHEN YOU DIE?

Have you ever thought about the eternal destiny of your soul? Have you given this important matter any serious thought? You haven’t! Then wait a minute and let me give you some FACTS. You say that you are not interested - then, you must be a very foolish person, not to be interested in something that involves your most treasured possession, your own soul.

LET ME TELL YOU MY STORY, FOR I WAS A LOT LIKE YOU! 

For many years I neglected my soul’s salvation, not caring to hear anything about God or eternity. I was in good health and physical condition, knew how to dress well, was successful in business and felt that I could look after myself without help from anyone.

Then one day God spoke to me. I began to read Gospel literature and I began to THINK. God impressed upon me that, although I knew how to get along well with people, how to look after my body and how to make money successfully, I wasn’t giving any attention to my soul and its eternal destiny.

Finally, after a struggle with myself and the devil, I yielded my life totally into the hands of my Maker. I invited Him to transform it from being useless, sinful and ugly to something useful, clean and righteous. In June 1957, in a little motel in Prince Albert, Saskatchewan I knelt beside my bed and received new life from Jesus Christ.

My life was completely changed! What joy, peace and happiness has been mine from that date to this.

Jesus said: “For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul”? (Mark 8:36-37) Your soul is the most valuable possession in the entire world.

IS YOUR SOUL AT STAKE?

If you perish and “are lost”, you will suffer the consequences. Your father, mother, husband, wife, children or friend will have nothing to do or say about your fate. It will be your own personal doom.

Jesus was conveying to us the great importance of the value of the individual soul. He said, the soul of man is priceless - beyond the worth of money or possessions.

Its worth is greater than the monetary value of earthly possessions. In other words, if you became so wealthy that you owned Canada, USA, Asia, Europe, Africa and the Islands of the sea - if you were the sole owner of the entire world and died in your sins, went to hell and lost your soul, WHAT GOOD WOULD IT BE?

What good are the influential friends, all the popularity, fame and riches when your body is six feet under the sod and your soul is burning in a devil’s hell? Jesus said, “What shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world but lose his own soul”.

YOUR SOUL WILL LIVE ON FOR ETERNITY

YOUR SOUL IS ETERNAL and long after your body is dead, your soul will live on in either Heaven or Hell. Every human being is on a journey to eternity. There can be no turning back and no way to miss this appointment.

TIME MARCHES ON AND ONE DAY YOU WHO ARE READING THESE LINES, SHOULD CHRIST TARRY, WILL LAY COLD AND STIFF IN YOUR GRAVE! AND DON’T THINK THAT CREMATION WILL CHANGE ANYTHING.

The Bible says, “And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment”. (Hebrews 9:27) The Bible states it clearly. Death is not the worst that could happen to you - IT IS INEVITABLE.

The sad thing is to face death alone without God, and then to be judged and doomed to eternal torment forever because of rejecting the Saviour. Death is sure and Judgment is sure.

WHERE WILL YOU SPEND ETERNITY - DO YOU KNOW?

Think about it.  Do you know where you will spend eternity?  The Bible says there are only two places - HEAVEN - a place of happiness, peace and joy. (Matthew 25:34; Revelation 21:4) - HELL, a place where there is agony, pain and torment. (Matthew  25:41-46; Luke 16:22-28)

ETERNITY IS FOREVER - There is a term in Algebra called infinity. The word ‘infinity’ defines a number that is so large it has lost meaning. For example, if you multiplied a number by itself and kept doing so, eventually the sum would become so great it would lose all meaning. We would call that immense number, infinity, for it is too great to comprehend.

This is the way it is with eternity. It is forever! Our human minds cannot comprehend it. It is so great it cannot be measured, because it will never end! One day an angel will come down from Heaven, put one foot on the sea and one foot on the dry land and swear with his hand raised to Heaven, “that time is no longer to be.” (Revelation 10:5-6)

From that moment, TIME WILL BE NO MORE AND ETERNITY WILL BEGIN! God will stop the clocks of time and start the wheel of eternity. Round and round it will go and will never stop. And eternity will begin.

Oh, sinner, where will you spend Eternity? Either in Heaven or Hell. Today you must decide. Please choose to serve God. Receive Jesus as your Saviour, Master and Lord. Pray this prayer: “Oh, God be merciful to me a sinner, and save me, in Jesus’ Name!”, and you will be saved.

The Holy Bible says, “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life”. (John 3:16)  unquote

For the rest of the article go to:

Eternity, Where will you spend eternity? Bible messages on death, judgment, eternity, eternal life, everlasting life. What is eternity? What is eternal life, everlasting life. How can I go to heaven?

Edited December 1, 2025 by blackbird

[ExFlyer]

15 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Yeah, and that's horrible. 

ANd most of it was lost under liberals. Harper actually did fairly well restoring some of the funding to the provinces that chretien had cut. 

Of course trudeau got in and it went down again.

The liberals have cost a lot of canadians their lives.  Not just their quality of life, which is ALSO down under the libs. 

 

Get with the times LOSER.

Things change for most of us except there are the exceptions like those of LOSERS like you LOL LOL LOL

[John Stone]

11 hours ago, CdnFox said:

I feel like there's a fair bit of education with regards to health out there, where do you feel we've been following short?

No stats, no links, and it doesn't make any sense.

What a perfectly leftist response

Oh ,  indeed.

Today, technology provides society with a wealth of information, akin to drinking water from a fire hose?

So the question  is what do u believe?

Shakespeare is  quoted as saying don't take anything  u read on the ether to the bank. 

So let's cut to the chase?

Simple - diet, appropriate exercise,  body weight control and discipline .......... the cornerstones of good health.

76 percent of U.S. citizens are overweight or obese, why is that?

People are sold on  the silver bullet for good health, weight loss - it does not exist, rather it's an  industry. 

(Ozempic comes to mind)

Fat kids generally have fat parents - what does that tell you?

Diet is killing us ......... 

 

[Legato]

6 minutes ago, John Stone said:

Shakespeare is  quoted as saying don't take anything  u read on the ether to the bank. 

 

Shakespeare was wrong.

The BBC license fee that they took to the bank was originally for use of the ether.