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Nearly One-Quarter of Consumer-Goods Firms Preparing to Exit Canada, Industry CEO Warns Parliament

Basically 23 percent of all manufacturing and goods producing companies are making plans to leave within 2 years. This is at the standing committee on Industry and Technology. 

“23% of our members expect to exit products from the Canadian marketplace within the next two years, because the cost of doing business here has just become unsustainable.”

That will be a pretty massive blow to our economy and job market. 

And the thing is they're not just talking about tariffs, they're talking about the cost of doing business in Canada. Taxes are too high, employee deductions are too high, industrial carbon tax makes much of the input  materials cost too much, inter provincial trade barriers mean the customers are in the states and not in Canada.

While carney is jetting around the world allegedly trying to drive up more investment in Canada, what we have is fleeing by the bucket load.

And these things have a nasty cascade effect, where the more companies that leave the more additional companies have to consider leaving or shutting down.

We're in a bit of a spiral dive I think

 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Nearly One-Quarter of Consumer-Goods Firms Preparing to Exit Canada, Industry CEO Warns Parliament

Basically 23 percent of all manufacturing and goods producing companies are making plans to leave within 2 years. This is at the standing committee on Industry and Technology. 

“23% of our members expect to exit products from the Canadian marketplace within the next two years, because the cost of doing business here has just become unsustainable.”

That will be a pretty massive blow to our economy and job market. 

And the thing is they're not just talking about tariffs, they're talking about the cost of doing business in Canada. Taxes are too high, employee deductions are too high, industrial carbon tax makes much of the input  materials cost too much, inter provincial trade barriers mean the customers are in the states and not in Canada.

While carney is jetting around the world allegedly trying to drive up more investment in Canada, what we have is fleeing by the bucket load.

And these things have a nasty cascade effect, where the more companies that leave the more additional companies have to consider leaving or shutting down.

We're in a bit of a spiral dive I think

 

 

 

He said 23% of those companies are planning to exit PRODUCTS from the market not that the companies themselves are planning to leave entirely  

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

He said 23% of those companies are planning to exit PRODUCTS from the market not that the companies themselves are planning to leave entirely  

 

 

 

Canada’s essential manufacturing and consumer-goods sectors now preparing to withdraw products from the Canadian market or exit entirely within the next two years. 

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5 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

He said 23% of those companies are planning to exit PRODUCTS from the market not that the companies themselves are planning to leave entirely  

 

 

 

The manufacturing is going to the states one way or another and the jobs with it. And the companies will follow within 2 years. 

Are you so desperate to defend the liberals and carney that you're going to try some sort of weird technical defense here? If we lose that manufacturing in those jobs we're in trouble. But apparently you're fine with that as long as you can find some sort of bizarre twist of words that makes it sound less bad than it really is.

Are you sure you're Canadian?

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11 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

And these things have a nasty cascade effect, where the more companies that leave the more additional companies have to consider leaving or shutting down.

We're in a bit of a spiral dive I think.

Yeah you could see that decades ago hereabouts with all the old fish boats and fish plants rotting along the shorelines everywhere you go up and down the coast.

We tried to warn you but no one gave a shit then...so why now all of a sudden?

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3 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Yeah you could see that decades ago hereabouts with all the old fish boats and fish plants rotting along the shorelines everywhere you go up and down the coast.

We tried to warn you but no one gave a shit then...so why now all of a sudden?

No you couldn't see it decades ago you lying a little sack of crap :) 

You can't even see it now, you said the exact opposite was happening not long ago

You didn't try to warn anybody. You are strong supporter of Trudeau who's made this happen.

Under harper and even under the previous level of governments investment in Canada it was actually pretty strong and we did fairly well. Manufacturing businesses set up in Canada along with many other businesses as well.

But that began to decline shortly after justin took office and within a few years it began to nose dive and currently it is pretty much in freefall.

So it hasn't been going on for years and decades. I'm sorry to hear your boat sunk but that has absolutely nothing to do with what we're talking about

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4 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

But that began to decline shortly after justin took office and within a few years it began to nose dive and currently it is pretty much in freefall.

Yeah well, it's kind of hard to give a shit really. And as it turns out people will pay big bucks to go take photos of old rotting fish boats and fish plants. Who knew?

I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical,
a liberal, oh fanatical criminal

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22 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Yeah well, it's kind of hard to give a shit really. And as it turns out people will pay big bucks to go take photos of old rotting fish boats and fish plants. Who knew?

Who knew that overfishing would have any effect.

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1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Yeah well, it's kind of hard to give a shit really.

You've been saying that for decades :) 

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And as it turns out people will pay big bucks to go take photos of old rotting fish boats and fish plants. Who knew?

You're CHARGING your parents now?

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12 hours ago, Legato said:

Canada’s essential manufacturing and consumer-goods sectors now preparing to withdraw products from the Canadian market or exit entirely within the next two years. 

“OR”  being the key word there. 

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8 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

“OR”  being the key word there. 

Yes, correct, but still not a good outlook.

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12 hours ago, CdnFox said:

The manufacturing is going to the states one way or another and the jobs with it. And the companies will follow within 2 years. 

Are you so desperate to defend the liberals and carney that you're going to try some sort of weird technical defense here? If we lose that manufacturing in those jobs we're in trouble. But apparently you're fine with that as long as you can find some sort of bizarre twist of words that makes it sound less bad than it really is.

Are you sure you're Canadian?

I’m just trying to correct your overly dramatic exaggeration.  We know you’re desperate to drum up bad news and say “itself all Carney’s fault his government is in charge ” and then when good news comes along say “itself has nothing to do with Carney his government only just got into office”   That’s an old game. 
 

Back to the topic, if Trump decides anything sold in America must be made in America then there’s little we can do other than wait for midterms or a new president or TACO to once again reverse himself. TBH highly mobile low-skilled manufacturing for the US market probably isn’t an industry we should be banking on, they just ask for one subsidy after another, they’ll never take the knife away from our throats. A lot of those jobs are held by new immigrants and TFWs anyway which is now a dwindling resource. And we should want to get out of this vicious cycle where we keep importing TFWs to fill the jobs at these places and then keep subsidizing the factories to keep those jobs. 

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13 hours ago, Legato said:

Who knew that overfishing would have any effect.

Yeah, mismanagement will do that.

I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical,
a liberal, oh fanatical criminal

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13 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Nearly One-Quarter of Consumer-Goods Firms Preparing to Exit Canada, Industry CEO Warns Parliament

Basically 23 percent of all manufacturing and goods producing companies are making plans to leave within 2 years. This is at the standing committee on Industry and Technology. 

“23% of our members expect to exit products from the Canadian marketplace within the next two years, because the cost of doing business here has just become unsustainable.”

That will be a pretty massive blow to our economy and job market. 

And the thing is they're not just talking about tariffs, they're talking about the cost of doing business in Canada. Taxes are too high, employee deductions are too high, industrial carbon tax makes much of the input  materials cost too much, inter provincial trade barriers mean the customers are in the states and not in Canada.

While carney is jetting around the world allegedly trying to drive up more investment in Canada, what we have is fleeing by the bucket load.

And these things have a nasty cascade effect, where the more companies that leave the more additional companies have to consider leaving or shutting down.

We're in a bit of a spiral dive I think

Liberals are at war with cheap/reliable energy, they're at war with exporting energy abroad, they're importing people who hate western culture, they screwed homeowners by putting interest rates below 2% and then jacking them up by 4% in one year, and every time you turn around someone else is in a trade war wit us now. India hates us, China treats us like leppers, and the US is in a trade war with us. 

Add to that our Libs are fomenting racial hatred within our country.

Our country has downgraded so much in the past ten years that it's hard to remember what it was like in the Harper era.

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2 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

I’m just trying to correct your overly dramatic exaggeration.

Well as we've seen that's a lie. The companies are leaving as well. What you're trying to do is downplay the seriousness of the situation. And that's really not appropriate, even if you are a liberal supporter this is a bad thing and you shouldn't be trying to pretend otherwise

2 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Back to the topic, if Trump decides anything sold in America must be made in America then there’s little we can do

Was mentioned that's not the problem here. Taxes, regulation, expensive materials due to carbon taxes, a lack of trade within Canada so the customers are in the united states already, all of these things contribute massively to the issue and they are things that are within our control.

So it is an absolute lie to suggest this is outside of our control

The liberal government is perpetuating a number of business killing policies that is keeping new investment out of Canada and driving existing business out. 

You should care about this. Apparently you don't. 

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Nutrien, a Canadian fertilizer company and world's largest producer of potash, will build a $1 billion export terminal in Longview Washington, rather than Vancouver. It has plans to export 5-6 million tons of potash per year to Indo-Pacific markets. Analyst Heather Exner-Pirot called it 'a failure on Canada's part and a condemnation of our regulatory environment and inability to permit port infrastructure the private sector actually wants to pay for'. One of the most basic rules of sound economic planning calls for making it simple for companies to get their products to market. We can't blame Nutrien for making an economic decision, especially when Carney's former company Brookfield was forced to move to the U.S.  But it still sucks. Our own house has to be put back in order and please stop wasting everyone's time by blaming Trump. 

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31 minutes ago, suds said:

Nutrien, a Canadian fertilizer company and world's largest producer of potash, will build a $1 billion export terminal in Longview Washington, rather than Vancouver. It has plans to export 5-6 million tons of potash per year to Indo-Pacific markets. Analyst Heather Exner-Pirot called it 'a failure on Canada's part and a condemnation of our regulatory environment and inability to permit port infrastructure the private sector actually wants to pay for'. One of the most basic rules of sound economic planning calls for making it simple for companies to get their products to market. We can't blame Nutrien for making an economic decision, especially when Carney's former company Brookfield was forced to move to the U.S.  But it still sucks. Our own house has to be put back in order and please stop wasting everyone's time by blaming Trump. 

This is exactly what I'm talking about. I had heard this was happening. That is billions and billions of dollars of revenue and jobs that America is going to get in Canada won't and it is 100% because the liberals are creating an unhealthy environment and has nothing to do with trump's tariffs 

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18 hours ago, CdnFox said:

“23% of our members expect to exit products from the Canadian marketplace within the next two years, because the cost of doing business here has just become unsustainable.”

 

Clearly a veiled threat - some kind of blackmail - "Gut worker's protections, rights and wages, like Trump is doing in the US, or we go."

It's noteworthy, though, that at the same time many American professionals indicate they are considering moving to Canada. One recent survey put the figure at 75% of American scientists considering moving here.

Canada's federal budget ... pledged a targeted injection of up to $1.7 billion over the next 13 years for measures to recruit top international talent, including senior scientists and scholars to serve as research leads and funding for their labs and projects. There would also be money to lure doctoral students, post-doctoral fellows and assistant professors to relocate to our universities.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/fedbudget-highered-talent-recruitment-9.6976821

 

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54 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

 

Clearly a veiled threat - some kind of blackmail - "Gut worker's protections, rights and wages, like Trump is doing in the US, or we go."

 

They never mentioned workers protection.

And these guys aren't actually the businesses, they're an organization that monitors the businesses

And they're going one way or another. Most people are going to lose their jobs at a time that jobs are hard to come by.

56 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

It's noteworthy, though, that at the same time many American professionals indicate they are considering moving to Canada. One recent survey put the figure at 75% of American scientists considering moving here.

Scientists don't make us any money. They don't produce jobs. They consume money in the form of grants and payments.

If you were under the delusion that swapping our entire industrial sector and the jobs associated with it for a handful of scientists who will want government money to research things was a fair exchange for us then let's burst that little bubble right now

57 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

Canada's federal budget ... pledged a targeted injection of up to $1.7 billion over the next 13 years for measures to recruit top international talent,

We're talking about trillions of dollars of jobs leaving and revenue for the government and you're excited that the government is going to spend 1.7 billion of our money that we don't have on something that won't produce jobs

You don't need me to tell you why that's kind of a dumb thing to say right? You can see it right?

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3 hours ago, Radiorum said:

Clearly a veiled threat - some kind of blackmail -

Clearly you're making shit up because you can't admit that the liberal gov't sucks.

Are you an MP or something? Are you doing this to protect the job that you're doing so poorly? 

Canada is going downhill fast, and people are responding to that. 

There's a reason why people leave places like Venezuela and India to come to Canada, but now people who get the opportunity to leave Canada to go to the US are doing it more than ever.

It's not a threat when they actually do it. And they started doing it right after Trudeau got elected. Remember? $135B in energy projects cancelled....

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"Gut worker's protections, rights and wages, like Trump is doing in the US, or we go."

What a snotty, BS line... You just regurgitated something that you heard on CNN as if it's got some connection to reality, but you can't quantify it.

Trump isn't gutting workers' protections. He's protecting the US economy if you're interested in saying anything truthful. 

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It's noteworthy, though, that at the same time many American professionals indicate they are considering moving to Canada. One recent survey put the figure at 75% of American scientists considering moving here.

😂

I can see why some evil scientists might wanna move to a country where the gov't will force people to take their dangerous/useless injections, but what you just said is ret4rded. Again. 

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On 11/21/2025 at 11:42 AM, eyeball said:

Yeah, mismanagement will do that.

Or lack of effort on the part of the actual fishermen that do the over fishing.

Complain there are no fish, complain about government getting in your business, then complain of mismanagement when fish stock gets depleted.

Methinks the root cause is the fishermen themselves because they are the ones doing it and actually seeing it.

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On 11/21/2025 at 4:03 PM, CdnFox said:

This is exactly what I'm talking about. I had heard this was happening. That is billions and billions of dollars of revenue and jobs that America is going to get in Canada won't and it is 100% because the liberals are creating an unhealthy environment and has nothing to do with trump's tariffs 

BC government where the exports would have to depart is not allowing it....and that is Provincial NDP. 

Same for pipelines...not federal but Provincial restrictions.

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1 hour ago, ExFlyer said:

Or lack of effort on the part of the actual fishermen that do the over fishing.

Complain there are no fish, complain about government getting in your business, then complain of mismanagement when fish stock gets depleted.

Methinks the root cause is the fishermen themselves because they are the ones doing it and actually seeing it.

There's no lack of effort that goes into lobbying alright. It's pretty disconcerting how amenable managers and officials are to it.

As I've said before about canaries and fishing communities being good indicators of sustainability or lack thereof - everyone should be paying attention to what's happening to them so they can take appropriate action. If they're hurting there's something wrong going on alright.

There's been no shortage of regret for the past around the coast or dread for the future I might add. 

 

 

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6 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

BC government where the exports would have to depart is not allowing it....and that is Provincial NDP. 

Same for pipelines...not federal but Provincial restrictions.

They were perfectly happy with a new terminal, the bc gvo't isn't blocking it. Eby's every disappointed they decided on Washington

Are you just making crap up on the fly now?

Saskatchewan firm's plan to export through Washington state has Eby fuming | Vancouver Sun

The company has said that FEDERAL regulations are what tipped it over to the us, along with favorable conditions there. 

Sorry bud, this is a LIBERAL loss not a provincial one 

Pipelines sure, but this isn't a pipeline. 

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On 11/20/2025 at 6:27 PM, CdnFox said:

Nearly One-Quarter of Consumer-Goods Firms Preparing to Exit Canada, Industry CEO Warns Parliament

Basically 23 percent of all manufacturing and goods producing companies are making plans to leave within 2 years. This is at the standing committee on Industry and Technology. 

“23% of our members expect to exit products from the Canadian marketplace within the next two years, because the cost of doing business here has just become unsustainable.”

That will be a pretty massive blow to our economy and job market. 

And the thing is they're not just talking about tariffs, they're talking about the cost of doing business in Canada. Taxes are too high, employee deductions are too high, industrial carbon tax makes much of the input  materials cost too much, inter provincial trade barriers mean the customers are in the states and not in Canada.

While carney is jetting around the world allegedly trying to drive up more investment in Canada, what we have is fleeing by the bucket load.

And these things have a nasty cascade effect, where the more companies that leave the more additional companies have to consider leaving or shutting down.

We're in a bit of a spiral dive I think

 

 

 

And ask Carnage if he really gives a dam. Carnage knows that this was going to happen because he is out to destroy Canada. Carnage is preparing Canada to be handed over to the WEF Zionist globalist cabal that has big plans for Canada when that day gets here. 

Indeed, while Carnage flies around the world and burning fossil fuels, just like his bosses in the WEF do also, he wants all Canadians to get rid of their ICE vehicles and instead drive around in those dangerous EV's around that are causing more harm to the environment and harm to the owners who drive and sit down in those radiation emitting EV's. 

I read the other day that 1% of the earth is covered by carbon. 99% of the rest of the earth is covered by nitrogen and oxygen. Looks to me like we really have no need to worry about carbon being produced by humans and cow farts or about global warming at all. Covid 19 and climate crisis equals lieberal lying bull chit. Just saying. 😁 

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