TreeBeard Posted November 19, 2025 Report Posted November 19, 2025 (edited) Cons help out the Libs. But lie about it. They hid behind a curtain! After it became apparent the budget was going to pass thanks to two NDP abstentions but also two other Conservatives sitting this one out, Scheer and Reid told the Speaker they wanted to vote against the budget but couldn't due to technology troubles inside Parliament. The Speaker allowed it. While diametrically opposed to the Liberal budget, sources say Conservative Party top brass don't want an election so soon after the last one — especially as polls suggest Carney is generally the preferred pick for prime minister over Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/conservatives-helped-pass-carney-budget-9.6983603 Edited November 19, 2025 by TreeBeard 2 Quote
August1991 Posted November 19, 2025 Report Posted November 19, 2025 3 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: Cons help out the Libs. But lie about it. .... The federal Liberals only bought two Tory MPs - and they only bought part of the NDP. Carney is ambitious, true - but I've always thought that he's like Ignatieff- a flake. Trump has shown that Carney folds. 1 1 Quote
TreeBeard Posted November 19, 2025 Author Report Posted November 19, 2025 Even the National Post is calling out the Conservative theatrics! Conservatives conspired to pass Carney’s budget is the headline! Ouch. https://nationalpost.com/opinion/opposition-mps-conspire-to-pass-carneys-disastrous-budget At least Green Leader Elizabeth May traded her support for something she cares about, a promise to meet our Paris Agreement targets. I expect she’s been had, in that the Liberals couldn’t do it if they even tried. But it beats the pseudo-sophistication of His Majesty’s official lack of Opposition faking opposition to the budget while sliding it through, scorning what is good for the country based on principle for a convoluted attempt to gauge what might conceivably be good for the party based on voters’ hypothetical distaste for having to exercise their stinking ballot. 1 Quote
herbie Posted November 19, 2025 Report Posted November 19, 2025 No, no, don't tell them that! Admitting the Tory bigwigs knew it was about the worst time possible to force an election would kill their delusions. 2 Quote
TreeBeard Posted November 19, 2025 Author Report Posted November 19, 2025 It’s pretty embarrassing for Conservatives. https://www.policymagazine.ca/how-pierre-poilievre-just-avoided-an-election-and-why-he-wanted-to/ Suddenly, there were Mr. Scheer and Mr. Reid. They were behind the curtains in the Opposition Lobby. Each claimed they were trying to vote remotely but could not get their apps to work, even though they were just a few feet away, out of sight of the Clerk’s desk. From their desks, they each then asked to be recorded as voting “No” — which they were allowed to do. Scheer and Reid wanted to vote against the budget. But it appears they were also their leader’s insurance policy. If Pierre Poilievre had wanted to actually defeat the budget, they would not have been hiding behind the curtains. Once the coast was clear and the budget had passed, they rushed out with their excuse and their votes. 1 Quote
taxme Posted November 20, 2025 Report Posted November 20, 2025 1 hour ago, TreeBeard said: It’s pretty embarrassing for Conservatives. https://www.policymagazine.ca/how-pierre-poilievre-just-avoided-an-election-and-why-he-wanted-to/ Suddenly, there were Mr. Scheer and Mr. Reid. They were behind the curtains in the Opposition Lobby. Each claimed they were trying to vote remotely but could not get their apps to work, even though they were just a few feet away, out of sight of the Clerk’s desk. From their desks, they each then asked to be recorded as voting “No” — which they were allowed to do. Scheer and Reid wanted to vote against the budget. But it appears they were also their leader’s insurance policy. If Pierre Poilievre had wanted to actually defeat the budget, they would not have been hiding behind the curtains. Once the coast was clear and the budget had passed, they rushed out with their excuse and their votes. I am not certain as to whether Canada does really have a real and true conservative party at all? I do believe that there are many more red Tory's in the conservative party and they are just waiting for an excuse to go over to the dark side and cross the floor over to the commie lieberals. I hope that is not the case. Just saying. 1 Quote
August1991 Posted November 22, 2025 Report Posted November 22, 2025 On 11/19/2025 at 12:47 PM, TreeBeard said: Even the National Post is calling out the Conservative theatrics! Conservatives conspired to pass Carney’s budget is the headline! Ouch. I would have done the same now in Nov 2025. In Dec 1979, Bob Rae had a different view. Quote
August1991 Posted November 22, 2025 Report Posted November 22, 2025 Obstruct government? ==== It is a minority federal governement. If I were Poilievre, I would do everything to make the life of Carney absolute hell. Canadians will blame Liberals if things go wrong. 1 Quote
Barquentine Posted November 22, 2025 Report Posted November 22, 2025 10 hours ago, August1991 said: Canadians will blame Liberals if things go wrong. And they'll stil hate Poilievre. 1 Quote
BeaverFever Posted November 24, 2025 Report Posted November 24, 2025 (edited) On 11/18/2025 at 10:56 PM, TreeBeard said: Cons help out the Libs. But lie about it. They hid behind a curtain! After it became apparent the budget was going to pass thanks to two NDP abstentions but also two other Conservatives sitting this one out, Scheer and Reid told the Speaker they wanted to vote against the budget but couldn't due to technology troubles inside Parliament. The Speaker allowed it. While diametrically opposed to the Liberal budget, sources say Conservative Party top brass don't want an election so soon after the last one — especially as polls suggest Carney is generally the preferred pick for prime minister over Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/conservatives-helped-pass-carney-budget-9.6983603 As I’ve been saying for months, PP is the new Jagmeet Singh and is going to prop up the Carney government for now. The only thing I got wrong was that I underestimated the extent of the theatrics and smoke and mirror shenanigans they would go through to maintain plausible deniability. I thought the conservatives would actually have no choice but to vote in favour. But the games are amusing Edited November 24, 2025 by BeaverFever 2 Quote
Moonbox Posted November 24, 2025 Report Posted November 24, 2025 On 11/19/2025 at 7:55 PM, taxme said: I am not certain as to whether Canada does really have a real and true conservative party at all? I do believe that there are many more red Tory's in the conservative party and they are just waiting for an excuse to go over to the dark side and cross the floor over to the commie lieberals. I hope that is not the case. Just saying. Commie lieberals! Clever! You forgot to say your bit about Prime Minister Carnage and something about Marxist Fascists though. 2 Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
taxme Posted November 24, 2025 Report Posted November 24, 2025 6 hours ago, Moonbox said: Commie lieberals! Clever! You forgot to say your bit about Prime Minister Carnage and something about Marxist Fascists though. Have i not mentioned those words many times here? PM Carnage and his merry band of robbers appears to be nothing more than a bunch of cheats, thieves and pushing lies, who in my opinion, is a real threat and danger to Canada. The lieberals appear to be quite communistic in their attacks on freedom of speech and freezing patriotic Canadians bank and credit card accounts. If that is not communism, well what is? So, are you all in favor of having any Canadian having their bank and credit card accounts frozen? Freezing their money that they need to live and eat on? What say you? Well? 1 Quote
ExFlyer Posted November 25, 2025 Report Posted November 25, 2025 (edited) Did not write it...but FYI: Before you share or trust anything from political pages, it’s worth knowing that several outlets operating in Canada present themselves as “news,” but have well-documented histories of partisan activity, misleading framing, or spreading unverified claims. Most of the groups listed below have been cited by media analysts and fact-checking organizations for things like publishing opinion as news, withholding funding sources, coordinated partisan campaigns, or amplifying narratives that later proved false. Some have direct ties to political operatives or advocacy groups rather than independent journalism standards. It doesn’t mean every single post they publish is false — but it does mean readers should approach their content with extra scrutiny and verify with reputable, independent sources. Here’s the list that’s circulating — and it’s worth keeping handy. Stay sharp, Canada Edited November 25, 2025 by ExFlyer 1 1 Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
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