Radiorum Posted November 18, 2025 Report Posted November 18, 2025 $24. That’s it. That’s all. That’s what it used to cost each American for one year of funding USAID, and saving ninety-two million lives over the last two decades. Since Trump’s inauguration, the chainsaw has ripped. “Foreign assistance bad.” The result? A “public man-made death.” Over six hundred thousand deaths, two-thirds of them children, caused by the dismantling of USAID. Check out this impact tracker. Please look, and tell me if it moves you. And now, as Trump rolls back public-health at home, how many Americans will suffer needless deaths? The Shutdown of U.S.A.I.D. Has Already Killed Hundreds of Thousands 1 Quote
paxamericana Posted November 18, 2025 Report Posted November 18, 2025 Mmhmmm, this is an American problem how? Quote
Radiorum Posted November 18, 2025 Author Report Posted November 18, 2025 14 minutes ago, paxamericana said: Mmhmmm, this is an American problem how? That's cold. Over 600,000 deaths, and you laugh??? Quote
cannuck Posted November 19, 2025 Report Posted November 19, 2025 (edited) US governments are over $40 TRILLION in debt. It is 4% of world population so why didn't the other 7.8 billion people step up and pick up the slack? I get more than a little tired of everyone blaming everything of the orange man. He may be an a$$hole but the US should not be expected and can not practically keep on piddling away tax dollars on other people's problems. They have more than enough internal problems of their own. The average debt per person in US is about 117,000 so for every taxpayer that's about 230,000. Now you want/expect them to pay MORE!!!!!! Another thing few seem to have the brains to realize and the balls to say: when you pour out a bottomless pit of aid, you get huge increases in birth rate. Since overpopulation is pretty much the top problem we have to sustain our life on this planet, masking the natural forces that would otherwise keep reproductive rates down is not a brilliant plan. Edited November 19, 2025 by cannuck Quote
Hodad Posted November 19, 2025 Report Posted November 19, 2025 27 minutes ago, Radiorum said: $24. That’s it. That’s all. That’s what it used to cost each American for one year of funding USAID, and saving ninety-two million lives over the last two decades. Since Trump’s inauguration, the chainsaw has ripped. “Foreign assistance bad.” The result? A “public man-made death.” Over six hundred thousand deaths, two-thirds of them children, caused by the dismantling of USAID. Check out this impact tracker. Please look, and tell me if it moves you. And now, as Trump rolls back public-health at home, how many Americans will suffer needless deaths? The Shutdown of U.S.A.I.D. Has Already Killed Hundreds of Thousands That's tragic in every regard. American sold its soul to sociopathic billionaires and this is the gruesome outcome. People without empathy should never be in leadership. 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted November 19, 2025 Report Posted November 19, 2025 6 minutes ago, Radiorum said: That's cold. Over 600,000 deaths, and you laugh??? It is cold. Its also a very valid question. If that $24 was used to rebuild the hiways...upgrade the electrical grid...maybe hire more air traffic controllers...that would be of great benefit to the people who actually pay that $24...each. Why not just allow some of these nations build cheap power plants and let then develop fully? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Radiorum Posted November 19, 2025 Author Report Posted November 19, 2025 (edited) 15 minutes ago, cannuck said: US governments are over $40 TRILLION in debt. It is 4% of world population so why didn't the other 7.8 billion people step up and pick up the slack? I get more than a little tired of everyone blaming everything of the orange man. He may be an a$$hole but the US should not be expected and can not practically keep on piddling away tax dollars on other people's problems. They have more than enough internal problems of their own. Or $1 billion to refurbish a jet from Qatar? Or $230 million looted from the DOJ as "compensation" for being a criminal? Or $350 million to build a golden ballroom? And how much is the American government investing in order that the Trump family will claim Gaza for their property investments? Trump is in it for the money, and anyone who does not see that is delusional. Edited November 19, 2025 by Radiorum 1 Quote
Radiorum Posted November 19, 2025 Author Report Posted November 19, 2025 16 minutes ago, Nationalist said: It is cold. Its also a very valid question. If that $24 was used to rebuild the hiways...upgrade the electrical grid...maybe hire more air traffic controllers...that would be of great benefit to the people who actually pay that $24...each. Let's save lives first. Quote
Nationalist Posted November 19, 2025 Report Posted November 19, 2025 18 minutes ago, Radiorum said: Let's save lives first. Let's save our own lives first. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Radiorum Posted November 19, 2025 Author Report Posted November 19, 2025 Just now, Nationalist said: Let's save our own lives first. There is no threat to any American life by paying $24/year to save literally millions of lives. Quote
cannuck Posted November 19, 2025 Report Posted November 19, 2025 15 minutes ago, Radiorum said: There is no threat to any American life by paying $24/year to save literally millions of lives. And there are billions more in the rest of the world with same status. Quote
Radiorum Posted November 19, 2025 Author Report Posted November 19, 2025 Just now, cannuck said: And there are billions more in the rest of the world with same status. I don't get your meaning. Quote
Nationalist Posted November 19, 2025 Report Posted November 19, 2025 30 minutes ago, Radiorum said: There is no threat to any American life by paying $24/year to save literally millions of lives. Yes there is actually. That lump o' money contributes to the debt which in turn contributes to inflation. Leave the "third world" to develop as they should. But all this USAID comes with strings attached. Regulations that stifle underdeveloped economies. And for Gawd's sake, keep the bloody Clinton's away from it all. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Radiorum Posted November 19, 2025 Author Report Posted November 19, 2025 1 minute ago, Nationalist said: Leave the "third world" to develop as they should. But all this USAID comes with strings attached. Regulations that stifle underdeveloped economies. Isolationism is not good policy. There are practical concerns, too, with worldwide soft power. The only foreign nations Trump is keeping good relations with are the ones he can personally profit from. Quote
Nationalist Posted November 19, 2025 Report Posted November 19, 2025 12 minutes ago, Radiorum said: Isolationism is not good policy. There are practical concerns, too, with worldwide soft power. The only foreign nations Trump is keeping good relations with are the ones he can personally profit from. Who said isolation? Stop being such a Tweenkie. What practical concerns? Control over smaller nations? Trump is the POTUS. He's supposed to seek good relations with those Americans can profit from...and that is what he's doing. Your accusations are simple-minded crap. Just like the infamous Epstein files, which are gonna bite the Democrats in the a55. You guys are so enthrawled with the idea of getting Trump, that you manage to discredit yourselves. Much like an endless parade of Donna LeMons. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
gatomontes99 Posted November 19, 2025 Report Posted November 19, 2025 (edited) 2 hours ago, Radiorum said: $24. That’s it. That’s all. That’s what it used to cost each American for one year of funding USAID, and saving ninety-two million lives over the last two decades. Since Trump’s inauguration, the chainsaw has ripped. “Foreign assistance bad.” The result? A “public man-made death.” Over six hundred thousand deaths, two-thirds of them children, caused by the dismantling of USAID. Check out this impact tracker. Please look, and tell me if it moves you. And now, as Trump rolls back public-health at home, how many Americans will suffer needless deaths? The Shutdown of U.S.A.I.D. Has Already Killed Hundreds of Thousands Extremist Groups Gained Millions from USAID, Middle East Forum Report Finds The Data in ‘Terror Finance’ Paint a Clear Picture: USAID Is Complicit in Financing Jihad USAID Official and Three Corporate Executives Plead Guilty to Decade-Long Bribery Scheme Involving Over $550 Million in Contracts; Two Companies Admit Criminal Liability for Bribery Scheme and Securities Fraud At USAID, Waste and Abuse Runs Deep What you are saying is you support a US government agency that funded terrorism and lined the pockets of politicians and their donors all because you hate Trump. Doesn't that bother you? Edited November 19, 2025 by gatomontes99 1 Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
paxamericana Posted November 19, 2025 Report Posted November 19, 2025 2 hours ago, Radiorum said: That's cold. Over 600,000 deaths, and you laugh??? It’s all good and dandy to save the world using other people’s money is it? Look, I’m not against humanitarian aid; either on religious or geopolitical grounds(soft power). I just think USAID funding should not be burdened by the American tax payer like an entitlement program. So if we’re grifting corrupt politicians to remove friction for other reasons, we should have a separate money pool clearly designated as a friction removal fund. Like stop with the transgender education program for children in Burma. Seriously we’re not that stupid, if you’re going to fund a CIA backed coup use a separate funding source… 1 Quote
Legato Posted November 19, 2025 Report Posted November 19, 2025 3 hours ago, Radiorum said: $24. That’s it. That’s all. That’s what it used to cost each American for one year of funding USAID, and saving ninety-two million lives over the last two decades. Since Trump’s inauguration, the chainsaw has ripped. “Foreign assistance bad.” The result? A “public man-made death.” Over six hundred thousand deaths, two-thirds of them children, caused by the dismantling of USAID. Check out this impact tracker. Please look, and tell me if it moves you. And now, as Trump rolls back public-health at home, how many Americans will suffer needless deaths? The Shutdown of U.S.A.I.D. Has Already Killed Hundreds of Thousands How much are they paying you? 1 1 Quote
Radiorum Posted November 19, 2025 Author Report Posted November 19, 2025 (edited) 2 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: Extremist Groups Gained Millions from USAID, Middle East Forum Report Finds The Data in ‘Terror Finance’ Paint a Clear Picture: USAID Is Complicit in Financing Jihad Lol, what an inflammatory title! From the article - In 2014, $723,405 was awarded to World Vision Inc., an international evangelical charity, and of that amount, $200,000 was to be directed to a sub-grantee, Islamic Relief Agency. Not millions. But if it was in 2014, why didn’t Trump decimate USAID during his first term to save the world from terrorism? And how does this 2014 payment justify the killing of over 600,000 this year? And if it's terrorism you are concerned with, I would be interested in hearing your opinion of Trump cozying up to Mohammed bin Salman at the White House? (Co-incidence that Osama bin Laden used Saudi people for 9/11?) 2 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: USAID Official and Three Corporate Executives Plead Guilty to Decade-Long Bribery Scheme Involving Over $550 Million in Contracts; Two Companies Admit Criminal Liability for Bribery Scheme and Securities Fraud This title is misleading. Yes, the guy was a crook, but he didn't profit to the tune of $550 million - rather he collected bribes totaling $1 million - still a crooked thing to do - but how does that justify decimating USAID? 2 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: At USAID, Waste and Abuse Runs Deep Lol! You linked the White House. Are you not aware they lie about everything? Did you check the links in the article? They are all to a Daily Mail article! Yeah, I know, I could hardly believe it myself. 2 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: What you are saying is you support a US government agency that funded terrorism and lined the pockets of politicians and their donors all because you hate Trump. Doesn't that bother you? I don't see how pointing out facts to you indicates any kind of hate. Check the link to the impact tracker in the OP to see where the funds used to go. Don't over 600,000 needless deaths bother you? Edited November 19, 2025 by Radiorum Quote
CdnFox Posted November 19, 2025 Report Posted November 19, 2025 6 hours ago, Radiorum said: $24. That’s it. That’s all. That’s what it used to cost each American for one year of funding USAID, and saving ninety-two million lives over the last two decades. Since Trump’s inauguration, the chainsaw has ripped. “Foreign assistance bad.” The result? A “public man-made death.” Over six hundred thousand deaths, two-thirds of them children, caused by the dismantling of USAID. Check out this impact tracker. Please look, and tell me if it moves you. And now, as Trump rolls back public-health at home, how many Americans will suffer needless deaths? The Shutdown of U.S.A.I.D. Has Already Killed Hundreds of Thousands Yawn. Not giving someone something for free that they didn't earn isn't killing them. And just out of curiosity, what's the dollar figure you'd feel is fair to "kill" all these people for? 24 isn't enough, is it ok to 'kill' them for 50? 100? you must have a figure in mind, how much would it take of your personal money to be worth "killing" them over? Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
User Posted November 19, 2025 Report Posted November 19, 2025 8 hours ago, Radiorum said: $24. That’s it. That’s all. That’s what it used to cost each American for one year of funding USAID, and saving ninety-two million lives over the last two decades. Oh wow, think of how many people you kill every month when you go to the movies, eat out, subscribe to some streaming service... 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted November 19, 2025 Report Posted November 19, 2025 8 minutes ago, User said: Oh wow, think of how many people you kill every month when you go to the movies, eat out, subscribe to some streaming service... That's what i was thinking/ He went to costco last week and slaughtered a whole tribe 1 2 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
John Stone Posted November 19, 2025 Report Posted November 19, 2025 21 hours ago, paxamericana said: Mmhmmm, this is an American problem how? USAID is what is described as 'soft' international political power - China is moving into the created vacuum - call it good will? There is no doubt that it will be reinstated - the cost will be enormous - the benefits were/are enormous and I'm not talking about saving lives. Strategic, eh? 21 hours ago, paxamericana said: Mmhmmm, this is an American problem how? Quote
paxamericana Posted November 19, 2025 Report Posted November 19, 2025 1 hour ago, John Stone said: USAID is what is described as 'soft' international political power - China is moving into the created vacuum - call it good will? There is no doubt that it will be reinstated - the cost will be enormous - the benefits were/are enormous and I'm not talking about saving lives. Strategic, eh? The problem isn't buying friends. It's misappropriating funds from this Goodwill bucket and pretending like the American people are that stupid. 1 Quote
Deluge Posted November 20, 2025 Report Posted November 20, 2025 On 11/18/2025 at 4:33 PM, Radiorum said: $24. That’s it. That’s all. That’s what it used to cost each American for one year of funding USAID, and saving ninety-two million lives over the last two decades. Since Trump’s inauguration, the chainsaw has ripped. “Foreign assistance bad.” The result? A “public man-made death.” Over six hundred thousand deaths, two-thirds of them children, caused by the dismantling of USAID. Check out this impact tracker. Please look, and tell me if it moves you. And now, as Trump rolls back public-health at home, how many Americans will suffer needless deaths? The Shutdown of U.S.A.I.D. Has Already Killed Hundreds of Thousands America first, comrade. You can't save everyone. Quote
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