paxamericana Posted November 7, 2025 Report Posted November 7, 2025 (edited) Contrary to climate alarmist and their claims of catastrophic consequences of warming the earth by a few degrees. Earth's history has went through several period of cooling and warming. With the average being warmer than when Human first arrived on the scene. That's right Humans evolved during a period of historically lower global temperature. Edited November 7, 2025 by paxamericana Quote
Michael Hardner Posted November 7, 2025 Report Posted November 7, 2025 1 hour ago, paxamericana said: Contrary to climate alarmist and their claims of catastrophic consequences of warming the earth by a few degrees. Earth's history has went through several period of cooling and warming. With the average being warmer than when Human first arrived on the scene. That's right Humans evolved during a period of historically lower global temperature. Isn't that a knock against Climate Denial to say it was warmer before humans 'arrived on the scene' ? You're saying that humans have never seen it as warm as this 'average' that we're talking about. Furthermore the post seems to acknowledge that temperatures are going up again so how is climate change a myth ? I've been on this board over 20 years, and the argument USED TO BE that temperatures weren't going up at all... so we're seeing progress from the Climate Deniers at least... In other words, humans weren't around then so how can you make any claims about the impact on humans ? 1 1 Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
herbie Posted November 7, 2025 Report Posted November 7, 2025 Science is just :too hard for some people. Like logical reasoning. That's why they think University should be to teach you how to work for somebody else like they do. 1 Quote
paxamericana Posted November 7, 2025 Author Report Posted November 7, 2025 13 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Isn't that a knock against Climate Denial to say it was warmer before humans 'arrived on the scene' ? You're saying that humans have never seen it as warm as this 'average' that we're talking about. Furthermore the post seems to acknowledge that temperatures are going up again so how is climate change a myth ? I've been on this board over 20 years, and the argument USED TO BE that temperatures weren't going up at all... so we're seeing progress from the Climate Deniers at least... In other words, humans weren't around then so how can you make any claims about the impact on humans ? Change is relative, No one is saying that climate stays the same. It changes by season and changes by the hour. The post was bait and you took it hook line and sinker. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted November 7, 2025 Report Posted November 7, 2025 (edited) 3 minutes ago, paxamericana said: Change is relative, No one is saying that climate stays the same. It changes by season and changes by the hour. The post was bait and you took it hook line and sinker. Well... the thread title seems to directly say that climate does stay the same. So the post was bait, meaning it was bvllshit ? Ok... this is why you sit on ignore, in sadness... Anyway, the logic is twisted: "climate change might not be bad... it used to be really really HOT and humans were fine although they didn't exist yet !" There used to be this old guy on the corner with a little organ and a monkey with a purple hat. He had a tin cup. Sometimes he said things. Edited November 7, 2025 by Michael Hardner 1 Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
paxamericana Posted November 7, 2025 Author Report Posted November 7, 2025 2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: So the post was bait, meaning it was bvllshit ? Ok... this is why you sit on ignore, in sadness... It’s not a mutually exclusive relationship. Truth is often used as bait. It’s my preferred bait! 1 Quote
paxamericana Posted November 7, 2025 Author Report Posted November 7, 2025 32 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Furthermore the post seems to acknowledge that temperatures are going up again so how is climate change a myth ? Going up yes, but compared to what exactly, going down? Global cooling is much worse, it would reduce crop yield and lead to starvation. Quote
User Posted November 7, 2025 Report Posted November 7, 2025 1 hour ago, herbie said: Science is just :too hard for some people. Like logical reasoning. That's why they think University should be to teach you how to work for somebody else like they do. Says the group who can’t define what a woman is in any meaningful way and thinks a grown ass man who thinks he is a woman, really is one, and should totally be cool competing against women in physical sports. 1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said: So the post was bait, meaning it was bvllshit ? Ok... this is why you sit on ignore, in sadness... Yeah… sure. Quote
User Posted November 7, 2025 Report Posted November 7, 2025 2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: I've been on this board over 20 years, and the argument USED TO BE that temperatures weren't going up at all... so we're seeing progress from the Climate Deniers at least.. For the last 20 years we have had the Chicken Littles screaming if we don’t act now it will be too late… Quote
herbie Posted November 8, 2025 Report Posted November 8, 2025 Why ignore someone so stupendously ignorant they're a constant source of laughter Michael? Take entertainment where you can, It's why they have incessant laugh tracks on The Big Band Theory so people who don't understand at all will know something was funny. Or these days on other other comedies to make people think something barley worth lifting a corner of your mouth is hilarious. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted November 8, 2025 Report Posted November 8, 2025 58 minutes ago, herbie said: Why ignore someone so stupendously ignorant they're a constant source of laughter Michael? I pay for Crave, NETFLIX, Prime, YouTube Premium. I saw My Dinner With André on the latter. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
herbie Posted November 8, 2025 Report Posted November 8, 2025 (edited) Years ago the old Starchoice had a bundle option with 2 choices. You could pay $x a month for these 3 choicexs or $x a month for the same 3 channels and OUT TV the gay channel. I chose the 4 rather than the 3 - on the brochure the original Cage au Folles was listed as one of that month's features. When I placed my order for the service, the rep actually mentioned that bundle and asked if I was sure... To me the idea of that two choices was ridiculous as you can just not tune to it. Edited November 8, 2025 by herbie 1 Quote
User Posted November 9, 2025 Report Posted November 9, 2025 OMG Climate change is real and we must act to stop it! But first, check out what streaming services I love to watch. Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted November 11, 2025 Report Posted November 11, 2025 Quote Contrary to climate alarmist and their claims of catastrophic consequences of warming the earth by a few degrees. Earth's history has went through several period of cooling and warming. Has went? B’y, you’re going to have to brush up on the grammatical lingo before launching into the scientific stuff. 1 Quote ‘How small we make our worlds. Gather them in, tighten them up into little castles of fear.’
Legato Posted November 19, 2025 Report Posted November 19, 2025 Cop 30 Hypocrisy at it's finest. First, at the very conference where deforestation will be a seminal issue, the Brazilian government sanctioned the chopping down of tens of thousands of trees to facilitate an eight mile long four-lane highway from the airport to the venue. As hundreds of private jets land and their retinues are chauffeured to their exotic hotels – or the two cruise ships chartered to provide an additional 6,000 beds – they can comfort themselves in the knowledge they have inspired a project that perfectly encapsulates the gap between climate rhetoric and action as Brazil markets itself as an environmental champion while chain-sawing protected ecosystems for conference logistics. https://capx.co/the-unbearable-hypocrisy-of-cop 2 Quote
Goddess Posted November 19, 2025 Report Posted November 19, 2025 Carney returned to the UK to launch GFANZ — the supposed $132 trillion Net Zero alliance. It quickly collapsed into one of the biggest greenwashing scandals in modern finance, as the world’s largest banks, asset managers and insurers quickly backed out and after the US Judiciary launched an investigation. So why is Carney insisting that Canada clings to his failed Net Zero deal long after everyone else bolted? 💰💰💰💰 <--- (HINT and it won't be money for Canadians) Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
Michael Hardner Posted January 26 Report Posted January 26 On 11/7/2025 at 6:27 PM, User said: For the last 20 years we have had the Chicken Littles screaming if we don’t act now it will be too late… Now THAT is true. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
SpankyMcFarland Posted February 11 Report Posted February 11 The Trumpster obsession with Greenland gives the game away. You can’t talk of new trade routes through melting ice up there and insist the climate isn’t changing at the same time. Here’s some advice. The tobacco lobby showed how this is done when you know you have a losing case but want to sustain it as long as possible through a series of incremental concessions and adjustments. The next obvious argument to retreat to is that, yes, there is change but it isn’t man-made. When that inevitably looks nonsensical you can then say that fossil fuel alternatives are not practical. There are lots of maneuvers left for anthracophiles but simply denying reality isn’t a good look. Quote A former national security adviser to Donald Trump has finally acknowledged the existence of climate change, unlike his former boss, to justify a takeover of Greenland, as threatened by the president-elect. Robert O’Brien appeared on Sunday Morning Futures on Fox News, suggesting that the U.S. could limit its use of the Panama Canal “as the climate gets warmer” and turn instead to opening waterways in the Arctic along Greenland. “Greenland is a highway from the Arctic all the way to North America, to the United States,” O’Brien said. “It’s strategically very important to the Arctic, which is going to be the critical battleground of the future because as the climate gets warmer, the Arctic is going to be a pathway that maybe cuts down on the usage of the Panama Canal.” https://www.yahoo.com/news/former-trump-adviser-finally-admits-023125809.html Quote ‘How small we make our worlds. Gather them in, tighten them up into little castles of fear.’
eyeball Posted February 15 Report Posted February 15 On 11/7/2025 at 3:25 PM, User said: Says the group who can’t define what a woman is in any meaningful way Why are you so stuck on this nonsense? Women give birth, babies come out of them. Have you ever seen that happen with your own eyes? I have, 3 times. BTW can you define what a man is in any meaningful way? Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Iceni warrior Posted February 15 Report Posted February 15 On 11/7/2025 at 9:39 PM, paxamericana said: Change is relative, No one is saying that climate stays the same. It changes by season and changes by the hour. The post was bait and you took it hook line and sinker. The weather changes by the season and by the hour. Climate changes by the decade or the century. Quote
paxamericana Posted February 15 Author Report Posted February 15 22 minutes ago, Iceni warrior said: Climate changes by the decade or the century. We’ve only been recording temperature changes for a century. Compared to earth’s history this is a relatively colder phase. Quote
Iceni warrior Posted February 15 Report Posted February 15 1 hour ago, paxamericana said: We’ve only been recording temperature changes for a century. Compared to earth’s history this is a relatively colder phase. More like 175 years since we started recording temperatures using reliable thermometers. However, you seem confident in your assertion that the planet was warmer in the past. Exactly how did you come about this information? 1 Quote
paxamericana Posted February 16 Author Report Posted February 16 (edited) 1 hour ago, Iceni warrior said: However, you seem confident in your assertion that the planet was warmer in the past. Exactly how did you come about this information? We only see big trends say the animal morphology of the fossil records. We don’t have high resolution data down to the exact time in years or even century like we do today. Edited February 16 by paxamericana Quote
Iceni warrior Posted February 16 Report Posted February 16 12 minutes ago, paxamericana said: We only see big trends say the animal morphology of the fossil records. We don’t have high resolution data down to the exact time in years or even century like we do today. So you are saying that we've never been able to measure temperature changes more accurately than we can today? Quote
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