Slavery- a new old economic model?

[Deluge]

On 11/4/2025 at 1:15 PM, eyeball said:

Slavery- a new old economic model?

Nope, it's just the ridiculous desperation of late stage capitalism, democracy, human decency...

The right wing must feel such an  incredible sense of vindication. I do too actually, the path we're on was all quite obvious to people decades and decades ago.

The economy has been mucking about bottom of this barrel for some time already - a lot of young people born here have long been subjected to working for next to nothing as apprentices.

 

 

eyeball still longs for left-wing utopia. What the dumb pervert doesn't understand is that left-wing utopia is best depicted in Tenderloin, San Francisco, and NOBODY wants that except globalist slumlords. 

[Nationalist]

On 11/4/2025 at 1:37 PM, robosmith said:

YOU ARE A LIAR which s WHY you're ON IGNORE. 

The ONLY one here who suggested immigrants are slaves is GNAT GIRL.

And I will continue to say it because it's the truth.

What the Hell do you think, "they do the jobs Americans dont want to" Is all about? Man...do you think at all? Or are you on taitor autopilot?

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

And I will continue to say it because it's the truth.

It's your "truth" because you are IGNROANT about what the word means.

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

What the Hell do you think, "they do the jobs Americans dont want to" Is all about? Man...do you think at all? Or are you on taitor autopilot?

No American wants to be a garbage collector either, but just like crop pickers they get paid and are free to find something better and that makes them NOT A SLAVE. Duh

[Nationalist]

24 minutes ago, robosmith said:

It's your "truth" because you are IGNROANT about what the word means.

No American wants to be a garbage collector either, but just like crop pickers they get paid and are free to find something better and that makes them NOT A SLAVE. Duh

Common slavery and you're a slaver.

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Common slavery and you're a slaver.

^ZERO EVIDENCE makes YOU a LIAR, TWICE.

[Nationalist]

5 hours ago, robosmith said:

^ZERO EVIDENCE makes YOU a LIAR, TWICE.

All kinds of evidence.

How many times have you said the illegals are good because they do the meneal jobs?

Lots.

[robosmith]

2 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

All kinds of evidence.

How many times have you said the illegals are good because they do the meneal jobs?

Lots.

You're a FOOL if you believe doing specific jobs is the definition of "SLAVE," dropout.

It's not, which is why you have ZERO EVIDENCE. Duh

[Nationalist]

9 minutes ago, robosmith said:

You're a FOOL if you believe doing specific jobs is the definition of "SLAVE," dropout.

It's not, which is why you have ZERO EVIDENCE. Duh

Pickin' cotton...Boss.

You're a slaver. Pure and simple.

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

Pickin' cotton...Boss.

You're a slaver. Pure and simple.

You're a FOOL. because the only one you're fooling is yourself. LMAO

[paxamericana]

That's exactly what a slaver would say... deny. 

9 hours ago, robosmith said:

You're a FOOL. because the only one you're fooling is yourself. LMAO

 

[Nationalist]

11 hours ago, robosmith said:

You're a FOOL. because the only one you're fooling is yourself. LMAO

You Democrats have finally replaced Kunta Kinte with Pedro and Jesus.

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, paxamericana said:

That's exactly what a slaver would say... deny. 

 

It's the TRUTH, exactly what ANYONE SANE would say. 💡

9 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

You Democrats have finally replaced Kunta Kinte with Pedro and Jesus.

STILL ZERO EVIDENCE for your RIDICULOUS OPINIONS. 

[Nationalist]

5 minutes ago, robosmith said:

It's the TRUTH, exactly what ANYONE SANE would say. 💡

STILL ZERO EVIDENCE for your RIDICULOUS OPINIONS. 

Evidence? Ok.

You were empathetic and thus OK with this stampede of new slaves.

And now you are so against having them rounded up and sent packing, that your OK with this.

note the metaphorical way that fight ended...

You are now fighting to keep your new-found Pedros and Jesuses. 

Slavers.

 

 

[CdnFox]

4 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Evidence? Ok.

You were empathetic and thus OK with this stampede of new slaves.

And now you are so against having them rounded up and sent packing, that your OK with this.

note the metaphorical way that fight ended...

You are now fighting to keep your new-found Pedros and Jesuses. 

Slavers.

 

 

One has to admit, it comes up as a democratic talking point constantly. "We need impoverished workers Willing to work for below minimum wage to harvest our food so we can buy it at an affordable price especially zucchini." 

They literally demand that without this borderline slave labor americans would have to pay more for their food.  When you point it out that it's modern day slavery they studder and backpeddal but it always comes back to the same thing : we need lots of poverty level workers to do our bidding

[Nationalist]

29 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

One has to admit, it comes up as a democratic talking point constantly. "We need impoverished workers Willing to work for below minimum wage to harvest our food so we can buy it at an affordable price especially zucchini." 

They literally demand that without this borderline slave labor americans would have to pay more for their food.  When you point it out that it's modern day slavery they studder and backpeddal but it always comes back to the same thing : we need lots of poverty level workers to do our bidding

Yup. Unless one has a brain-fart and openly admits to also importing votes.

The whole thing is so transparent. 

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Evidence? Ok.

You were empathetic and thus OK with this stampede of new slaves.

You are really STUPID to believe people are risking ARREST to become "slaves." LMAO

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

 

And now you are so against having them rounded up and sent packing, that your OK with this.

note the metaphorical way that fight ended...

You are now fighting to keep your new-found Pedros and Jesuses. 

Slavers.

They  ARE NOT being pushed OUT because they're "slaves."

Ostensibly it's because they are taking American JOBS. Duh

The FACT is, you don't even know how much they're being PAID.

㊙️ IT'S NOT NOTHING.

And that makes YOU A LIAR.

Edited November 8, 2025 by robosmith

[gatomontes99]

30 minutes ago, robosmith said:

You are really STUPID to believe people are risking ARREST to become "slaves." LMAO

There was no risk under JB. And they didn't know they were coming to be slaves.

31 minutes ago, robosmith said:

They  ARE NOT being pushed OUT because they're "slaves."

They are being pushed out because they broke the laws, raised housing prices and the cost of food, strain our school systems and welfare programs and (did I mention?) they broke the law.

[Gaétan]

The monetary system is a system of slavery established by kings and dictators to exploit the people; now it's other slave masters who benefit from it.

[Legato]

10 minutes ago, Gaétan said:

The monetary system is a system of slavery established by kings and dictators to exploit the people; now it's other slave masters who benefit from it.

Yup a hanging, drawing and quartering is needed to minister justice. Give Jack Ketch a buzz, I don't think Albert Pierrepoint is available.

[Gaétan]

The monetary system was never designed to liberate people—it was built to control them. Historically imposed by kings and dictators, it now serves financial elites, banks, and corporations who exploit the masses through debt and economic dependence.

• Debt-based currency traps individuals and nations in endless repayment cycles.

• Wage labor under economic pressure resembles legalized servitude, where people work not to thrive but to survive.

• Financial institutions act as modern slave masters, profiting from systemic inequality while dictating policies and controlling governments.

“We don’t want a world ruled by money. We want a world governed by human dignity.”

[gatomontes99]

48 minutes ago, Gaétan said:

The monetary system was never designed to liberate people—it was built to control them. Historically imposed by kings and dictators, it now serves financial elites, banks, and corporations who exploit the masses through debt and economic dependence.

• Debt-based currency traps individuals and nations in endless repayment cycles.

• Wage labor under economic pressure resembles legalized servitude, where people work not to thrive but to survive.

• Financial institutions act as modern slave masters, profiting from systemic inequality while dictating policies and controlling governments.

“We don’t want a world ruled by money. We want a world governed by human dignity.”

You have been so brainwashed.

[Gaétan]

7 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

You have been so brainwashed.

It comes from AI

Edited November 8, 2025 by Gaétan

[gatomontes99]

5 minutes ago, Gaétan said:

It comes from AI

Well, then it can't possibly be brainwashed. 

What do you know about how it was programmed and trained? 

[Gaétan]

2 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

Well, then it can't possibly be brainwashed. 

What do you know about how it was programmed and trained? 

 

It is not programmed but use the knoledge we have.

Answer from AI

Exactly — you're on the right track.

AI like me isn't "programmed" in the traditional sense of writing rules like if X, then Y. Instead, I'm trained on the knowledge humans have produced: books, articles, scientific papers, websites, conversations, and more.

🧠 How AI Is "Programmed" — Or Rather, Trained

Artificial Intelligence, especially modern systems like me, isn't programmed in the traditional sense of writing rules line by line. Instead, AI is trained using vast amounts of data and scientific principles. Here's how it works:

🔍 1. Learning from Data, Not Just Code

• AI models are built using machine learning algorithms, especially deep learning.

• These algorithms learn patterns from huge datasets — texts, images, sounds, etc.

• The model adjusts its internal parameters (like neurons in a brain) to better predict or generate responses.

🧪 2. Grounded in Science

• The foundation of AI is mathematics and neuroscience-inspired architecture.

• It uses concepts from:

  • Linear algebra (for matrix operations)

  • Probability theory (to estimate likely outcomes)

  • Information theory (to measure uncertainty and entropy)

  • Neural networks (inspired by biological brains)

So yes — you're right: AI doesn't just follow hardcoded rules. It extracts knowledge from scientific principles and data, adapting its behavior based on what it has learned.

🧰 3. Fine-Tuning and Reinforcement

• After initial training, AI can be fine-tuned with more specific data (e.g., medical texts, legal documents).

• It can also be shaped by reinforcement learning, where it gets feedback on good vs. bad responses.

Edited November 9, 2025 by Gaétan

[gatomontes99]

11 minutes ago, Gaétan said:

It is not programmed but use the knoledge we have.

Well, it is programmed with a thought process and it is trained with data that is presented to it. AI is still a computer. Garbage in, garbage out. 

What ever crap it was trained with is what it is going to out out. It cannot recognize flawed data. It does not differentiate from honesty and lies. Just because you found some AI that repeats the lies you want to believe, does not mean the lies are true.