Trump says all trade talks with Canada are terminated - Mad at Doug Ford

[CdnFox]

Trump says all trade talks with Canada are terminated | Reuters

Long story short, he's cancelling all negotiations because doug ford ran those Regan ads in the states

"all trade talks with Canada were terminated following what he called a fraudulent advertisement in which former President Ronald Reagan spoke negatively about tariffs.
"Based on their egregious behavior, ALL TRADE NEGOTIATIONS WITH CANADA ARE HEREBY TERMINATED," Trump wrote on Truth Social."

 

Well this is going to be a bit of a problem for Carney. He's going to have to demand that ford cancel those as quickly as possible, but he can't look like he's supporting trump and he can't force forward to do anything. But this is obviously going to severely delay carney from getting any kind of deal.

 

Will Carney cave again? Will he have to back down one more time and convince ford to stop? He can't really afford to just break off and negotiations

[paxamericana]

Stubborn Canucks, why do you all keep insisting on humiliating yourself. Canada has zero chance of economic independence from the United States. You want to be wealthy again, make a deal with the United States. Do what you’re told and you can remain in the Sun. It’s not America that wanted this Canucks, it’s you, your stubborn pride.

[CdnFox]

Just now, paxamericana said:

Stubborn Canucks, why do you all keep insisting on humiliating yourself. Canada has zero chance of economic independence from the United States. You want to be wealthy again, make a deal with the United States. Do what you’re told and you can remain in the Sun. It’s not America that wanted this Canucks, it’s you, your stubborn pride.

Why would we join a country where the beer is like having sex in a canoe? (both fcuking pretty close to water). 

[SpankyMcFarland]

When I am Shah of the world I will permit Belgium and Germany to continue making beer without let or hindrance because they seem to know what they are doing. Everyone else will have apply for special exemptions. In Canada, only Happy Valley by Iron Rock and Blanche de Chambly can expect approval so far. IPAs will be forbidden. They are an utter abomination. We will not speak of them again. 

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, paxamericana said:

Canada has zero chance of economic independence from the United States.

America is reducing it's chances by going it alone. Turning your back on us and burning bridges to you will open up avenues in different directions and towards more viable opportunities. I'd guess this will all but makes a big thaw with China a certainty.

1 hour ago, paxamericana said:

Do what you’re told and you can remain in the Sun. It’s not America that wanted this Canucks, it’s you, your stubborn pride.

No, this was entirely Trump's doing and yes it does seem to have caused a little stubborn pride...notwithstanding the self-humiliating giggles Maple MAGA get forever trying to stick Trump's shit on our politicians. Probably makes Trump proud though - he should run ads in Canada showing MM ridiculing Carney and Ford.

That would fix the stubbornness for sure.

 

[Politics1990]

lol time to just stop working with america yea it will hurt for awhile but at this point  usa is a piece of trash and just an abusive partner move on carney.

[Barquentine]

8 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Will Carney cave again? Will he have to back down one more time and convince ford to stop? He can't really afford to just break off and negotiations

Headline: DOUG FORD SHOOTS CANADA IN THE FOOT!

Ford will pull these ads himself, or of course Carney will have to convince him. No caving involved.

And trumps pendulum of immature emotional swings, after talking to some adults, will bring him back to the table. It seems they're getting close to some kind of deal but this will set it back a week or so.

[gatomontes99]

As usual, the lefty loonies lied:

BBC: "He says in the original speech: "Imposing such tariffs or trade barriers and restrictions of any kind are steps that I am loath to take. And in a moment I'll mention the sound economic reasons for this: that over the long run such trade barriers hurt every American worker and consumer."

Reagan says some companies had been "engaging in unfair trade practices" and going against an agreement with the US - and that this was therefore a "special case".

This sets the tone for the rest of the address, which he dedicates to making clear his commitment to free trade and the dangers of high tariffs."

The truth is that Reagan mostly agreed with Trump. 

[Nationalist]

Im not sure if Ford is stupid or trying to submarine the carney.

I suppose he thinks this makes him look tough to the electorate. Its actually a mor0n biting the hand that feeds.

Canada's leaders have failed the nation in spectacular fashion. They decided to try taking advantage of TDS, instead of approaching Trump and his bloviation rationally and calmly.

Twits.

[paxamericana]

3 hours ago, Politics1990 said:

lol time to just stop working with america yea it will hurt for awhile but at this point  usa is a piece of trash and just an abusive partner move on carney.

Your industry isn’t even globally competitive, there’s no one to sell to. Canada is becoming Bankrupt. Leave it to Canucks to ruin access to the world richest market . However did you managed to messed that up? Good on you Canada. Sovereignty is more important than poverty it seems. 

Edited October 24, 2025 by paxamericana

[BeaverFever]

3 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

As usual, the lefty loonies lied:

BBC: "He says in the original speech: "Imposing such tariffs or trade barriers and restrictions of any kind are steps that I am loath to take. And in a moment I'll mention the sound economic reasons for this: that over the long run such trade barriers hurt every American worker and consumer."

Reagan says some companies had been "engaging in unfair trade practices" and going against an agreement with the US - and that this was therefore a "special case".

This sets the tone for the rest of the address, which he dedicates to making clear his commitment to free trade and the dangers of high tariffs."

The truth is that Reagan mostly agreed with Trump. 

How so?  Trump is fundamentally AGAINST free trade. He has a minimum 10% tariff against ALL countries including those that the US already has a trade surplus with.   His whole “past presidents have allowed countries to take advantage of us for generations” lie is directly uAGAINST Reagan’s free trade policies. He has tariffs against countries that he already has feee trade agreements with including Canada. 
 

And most importantly nowhere does Ronald Reagan list “some from another country taking out a tv ad I don’t like” as reason not to have free trade with that country 

 

Seriously give your brainwashed head a shake. 

[BeaverFever]

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Im not sure if Ford is stupid or trying to submarine the carney.

I suppose he thinks this makes him look tough to the electorate. Its actually a mor0n biting the hand that feeds.

Canada's leaders have failed the nation in spectacular fashion. They decided to try taking advantage of TDS, instead of approaching Trump and his bloviation rationally and calmly.

Twits.

Trump is neither rational or calm. And Carney has been nothing BUT rational and calm. You can’t blame the sane person for their crazy behaviour irrational behaviour of the crazy person 

Just think about it:  trade agreements with your largest trading partner are maters of HUGE national concerns and affect the lives and livelihoods of TENS OF MILLIONS of Americans and BILLIONS of dollars in trade. The fact that it all hinges on the fact that the Dictator In Chief doesn’t like a TV commercial that’s not even by the Canadian government is FUKIN CRAZY 

[gatomontes99]

3 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

How so?  Trump is fundamentally AGAINST free trade. He has a minimum 10% tariff against ALL countries including those that the US already has a trade surplus with.   His whole “past presidents have allowed countries to take advantage of us for generations” lie is directly uAGAINST Reagan’s free trade policies. He has tariffs against countries that he already has feee trade agreements with including Canada. 
 

And most importantly nowhere does Ronald Reagan list “some from another country taking out a tv ad I don’t like” as reason not to have free trade with that country 

 

Seriously give your brainwashed head a shake. 

You didn't read the article. The ad misrepresented Reagan's views. Not that Reagan is the holy grail, but the ad is a lie. 

[BeaverFever]

2 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

You didn't read the article. The ad misrepresented Reagan's views. Not that Reagan is the holy grail, but the ad is a lie. 

It didn’t misrepresent his views. He was pro free trade and anti-tariffs.   He justified tariffs in very specific and limo situations only, such as a specific situation he mentions with Japan.  Free trade with the world is one of his legacies. 

[SpankyMcFarland]

7 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

You didn't read the article. The ad misrepresented Reagan's views. Not that Reagan is the holy grail, but the ad is a lie. 

Did he say those words or not? Did he speak those sentences?

Edited October 24, 2025 by SpankyMcFarland

[gatomontes99]

6 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

Did he say those words or not? Did he speak those sentences?

Not in the context of the ad, no. 

9 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

It didn’t misrepresent his views. He was pro free trade and anti-tariffs.   He justified tariffs in very specific and limo situations only, such as a specific situation he mentions with Japan.  Free trade with the world is one of his legacies. 

That is the point. The ad makes it seem like Reagan was a free trade absolutionist. He was not.

[Nationalist]

15 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

It didn’t misrepresent his views. He was pro free trade and anti-tariffs.   He justified tariffs in very specific and limo situations only, such as a specific situation he mentions with Japan.  Free trade with the world is one of his legacies. 

And this is the extent of your capability to understand things.

[BeaverFever]

13 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

Not in the context of the ad, no. 

That is the point. The ad makes it seem like Reagan was a free trade absolutionist. He was not.

Riiiight. He was only 99.9% opposed to tariffs not 100% like they ad made it seem. That’s what you’re hanging your hat on?

[Nationalist]

57 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

How so?  Trump is fundamentally AGAINST free trade. He has a minimum 10% tariff against ALL countries including those that the US already has a trade surplus with.   His whole “past presidents have allowed countries to take advantage of us for generations” lie is directly uAGAINST Reagan’s free trade policies. He has tariffs against countries that he already has feee trade agreements with including Canada. 
 

And most importantly nowhere does Ronald Reagan list “some from another country taking out a tv ad I don’t like” as reason not to have free trade with that country 

 

Seriously give your brainwashed head a shake. 

True. Trump is against free trade. He's for FAIR trade and for American manufacturing.

Tell me...what were the European tariffs on US goods prior to Trump? Do you realize the US was being hosed severely by European protectionism?

This is why you can't be taken seriously. You don't really know what you're talking about.

You see half truths on CNN and you repeat them dutifully.

Edited October 24, 2025 by Nationalist

[gatomontes99]

29 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Riiiight. He was only 99.9% opposed to tariffs not 100% like they ad made it seem. That’s what you’re hanging your hat on?

And you are going to skip the part about countries using unfair trade practices as part of both of their plans? 

[SpankyMcFarland]

It’s funny how particular Trump’s defenders are about the truth all of a sudden. They ignore the torrent of daily lies pouring from their disgusting idol yet expect every ad about him to be an impartial civics lesson. Reagan said that stuff. It’s not fake. There was no AI involved. He really didn’t want to slap on those tariffs. 

Edited October 24, 2025 by SpankyMcFarland

[Hodad]

Trump is such a small, pathetic, person. Someone hurt his feelings simply by calling back to the words of a far greater president, so he decided to take his ball and go home. Nevermind that the power of his office is meant to serve the  American people, not service his fragile ego. -- He has the MAGA cultists to service him. 

 

[SpankyMcFarland]

1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said:

Not in the context of the ad, no. 

That is the point. The ad makes it seem like Reagan was a free trade absolutionist. He was not.

That ad was a lot fairer than the vast majority of political ads. Reagan generally opposed tariffs but was willing to impose them selectively. By contrast, Trump has alienated the entire world with his shotgun approach to tariffs and made China (China!) look like a more reasonable country to deal with. Ford did not cheat. He used Reagan’s real, spoken words. Whether his ad was wise is a different matter. 

 

Edited October 24, 2025 by SpankyMcFarland

[SpankyMcFarland]

Again, I can understand Americans defending Trump but any Canadian who does is siding with an avowed enemy during a profound national crisis. If they hate our country so much they really should not stay here. 

[robosmith]

5 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

As usual, the lefty loonies lied:

BBC: "He says in the original speech: "Imposing such tariffs or trade barriers and restrictions of any kind are steps that I am loath to take. And in a moment I'll mention the sound economic reasons for this: that over the long run such trade barriers hurt every American worker and consumer."

Reagan says some companies had been "engaging in unfair trade practices" and going against an agreement with the US - and that this was therefore a "special case".

This sets the tone for the rest of the address, which he dedicates to making clear his commitment to free trade and the dangers of high tariffs."

The truth is that Reagan mostly agreed with Trump. 

Meanwhile in REALITY, Trump is IGNORING the DANGERS and IMPLEMENTING HIGH TARIFFS.

IOW, in KEY WAYS Reagan OPPOSED what Trump is DOING.