Planet’s first catastrophic climate tipping point reached, report says, with coral reefs facing ‘widespread dieback’

[robosmith]

Planet's first catastrophic climate tipping point reached, ...

The Guardian

https://www.theguardian.com › environment › oct › cor...

3 days ago — Coral reefs have been in the midst of a global bleaching event since January 2023 – the fourth and worst on record – with more than 80% of reefs ...

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The earth has reached its first catastrophic tipping point linked to greenhouse gas emissions, with warm water coral reefs now facing a long-term decline and risking the livelihoods of hundreds of millions of people, according to a new report.

The report from scientists and conservationists warns the world is also “on the brink” of reaching other tipping points, including the dieback of the Amazon, the collapse of major ocean currents and the loss of ice sheets.

 

But some experts have questioned the report’s claims about the fate of coral reefs, with one saying while they are in decline there is evidence they could remain viable at higher temperatures than suggested.

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Tracing the worst coral bleaching event in recorded history – video

Tipping points are recognized by scientists as moments when a major ecosystem reaches a point where severe degradation is inevitable.

 

[Shady]

I thought we passed the point of no return several years ago?  Is this a new one?

[robosmith]

39 minutes ago, Shady said:

I thought we passed the point of no return several years ago?  Is this a new one?

Doesn't say "point of no return." Man can bring the reefs back with heroic measures once the temps go down.

Just VERY EXPENSIVE. Maybe pay for that with a tax on fossil fuels. 💡

[paxamericana]

Best we just ignore this climate alarmist. Like we've been doing since the 1950s

 

[Deluge]

2 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Doesn't say "point of no return." Man can bring the reefs back with heroic measures once the temps go down.

Just VERY EXPENSIVE. Maybe pay for that with a tax on fossil fuels. 💡

Maybe not. You climate cultists need to keep this shit to yourselves. 

[LinkSoul60]

Robo, old saying 'you can't fix stupid'...  Move on from these 3 clowns, they're beyond repair. 

[Shady]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

Doesn't say "point of no return." Man can bring the reefs back with heroic measures once the temps go down.

Just VERY EXPENSIVE. Maybe pay for that with a tax on fossil fuels. 💡

There are already taxes on fossil fuels.  

[Shady]

34 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Robo, old saying 'you can't fix stupid'...  Move on from these 3 clowns, they're beyond repair. 

What’s stupid is thinking that reducing Canada’s  small carbon footprint at any cost is going to impact climate change while India, China, and the United States go full steam ahead.  This is all that your nonsense has accomplished.

 

[LinkSoul60]

5 minutes ago, Shady said:

What’s stupid is thinking that reducing Canada’s  small carbon footprint at any cost is going to impact climate change while India, China, and the United States go full steam ahead.  This is all that your nonsense has accomplished.

 

You confirmed my comment... can't fix it.  We're an emitter of greenhouse gases and are doing the right thing for the world in trying to reduce those. That's not stupid, it's being responsible.  China is still a developing nation that has also has also invested $6.8Trillion in clean renewable energy projects.  What does that tell you for future of energy in that country? The need for fossil fuels is not going away any time soon, it's just becoming less and will continue to as energy projects shift towards renewable projects.  Climate change is unequivocal. Next subject... 

[herbie]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

Doesn't say "point of no return."

Doesn't matter what it says when you're dealing with people who simply refuse to listen.. Fingers in ears, nah nah nah nah don't wanna hear that!

 

 

[Michael Hardner]

The words" tipping point" represent a red flag for me.  There may be such a thing, but it's too dramatic a term...

[robosmith]

1 minute ago, Michael Hardner said:

The words" tipping point" represent a red flag for me.  There may be such a thing, but it's too dramatic a term...

There are a LOT of potential tippling points. Like when sea ice declines and the darker ocean absorbs heat instead of reflecting it.

Or the permafrost melts and releases vast quantities of GHG stored in rotting organic matter.

Do you know what will happen if the ocean currents shut down? I doubt that will be good.

[Michael Hardner]

9 minutes ago, robosmith said:

 Do you know what will happen if the ocean currents shut down? I doubt that will be good.

Of course, but I am able to assess facts on their own without the drapery of provocative language.

It doesn't matter.  People on here argue against science for entertainment, which - on the macro - supplants democratic dialogue for low entertainment.

Here's a headline:

CO2 levels at an 800,000 year high 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/science/co2-climate-emissions-cop30-9.6939220

 

[robosmith]

24 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Of course, but I am able to assess facts on their own without the drapery of provocative language.

It doesn't matter.  People on here argue against science for entertainment, which - on the macro - supplants democratic dialogue for low entertainment.

Here's a headline:

CO2 levels at an 800,000 year high 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/science/co2-climate-emissions-cop30-9.6939220

 

Are you claiming that headline it too "provocative"?

Scientists and other probably believe if the declarations are not simple and provocative, the public will not be convinced that any actions are necessary.

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Robo, old saying 'you can't fix stupid'...  Move on from these 3 clowns, they're beyond repair. 

another high quality intelligent post from a climate cultist   

And I love that he's decided that Robo Smith is the level of intelligence he wants to associate with  

1 hour ago, Shady said:

What’s stupid is thinking that reducing Canada’s  small carbon footprint at any cost is going to impact climate change while India, China, and the United States go full steam ahead.  This is all that your nonsense has accomplished.

 

This is the biggest problem. And yet the climate fascists insist that these two countries should be given an exemption and that they're actually doing great.

That's one of the many things that keeps everyone else from taking it seriously.

[robosmith]

More on tipping points from TED

 

[gatomontes99]

Trump solves 7 wars, creates an alliance in the middle east that might last, stops illegal immigration, eliminates a bunch of fraud, waste and abuse and makes the Democrats defend the bad side of all those issues, so now we are back to the sky is falling Boogeyman. Go figure. 

[robosmith]

9 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

Trump solves 7 wars,

No he didn't. He's fooled you with his LIES.

Aberbian was never at war with Albania LMAO

 

9 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

creates an alliance in the middle east that might last,

So did Biden but it didn't last.

9 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

stops illegal immigration,

So what? At great COST.

9 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

eliminates a bunch of fraud, waste and abuse

Again fooled you with his LIES. He's eliminated so many valuable government SERVICES.

Fortunately, some FIRINGS are BEING RESCINDED. 

9 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

and makes the Democrats defend the bad side of all those issues, so now we are back to the sky is falling Boogeyman. Go figure. 

CLEARLY YOU KNOW NOTHING about the SCIENCE.

[gatomontes99]

3 minutes ago, robosmith said:

No he didn't. He's fooled you with his LIES.

Aberbian was never at war with Albania LMAO

Only in your fantasy world. According to USAToday, Trump has ended 7 wars and conflicts (not including Israel and Hamas). 

 

4 minutes ago, robosmith said:

So did Biden but it didn't last.

That is Biden's failure. 

 

4 minutes ago, robosmith said:

So what? At great COST.

So? It has also created millions of jobs for people who are here legally. 

 

5 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Again fooled you with his LIES. He's eliminated so many valuable government SERVICES.

Fortunately, some FIRINGS are BEING RESCINDED. 

You can only say that because you assume a government program is a good thing. I believe most government programs are an attack on our freedoms.

 

8 minutes ago, robosmith said:

CLEARLY YOU KNOW NOTHING about the SCIENCE.

I know far more than you do.

[Michael Hardner]

2 hours ago, robosmith said:

1. Are you claiming that headline it too "provocative"?

2. Scientists and other probably believe if the declarations are not simple and provocative, the public will not be convinced that any actions are necessary.

1. Not really. Actually, media criticism in this day and age seems a bit ridiculous. 

2. Maybe, however, it's the media outlet that frames the story. For example... A so-called science story often begins with the following " new study says...".

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

Only in your fantasy world. According to USAToday, Trump has ended 7 wars and conflicts (not including Israel and Hamas). 

You need to READ your NAKED LINK. It says the last TWO are BULLSHIT.

And also watch the YOUTUBE I posted which SHOWS Trump saying stopped the war between Alberbian and Albania.

Aberbian isn't even a country and Azerbaijan was never at war with Albania. LMAO 

2 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

 

That is Biden's failure. 

And this could be Trump's for whom you have a very LOW BAR. LMAO

2 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

So? It has also created millions of jobs for people who are here legally. 

Very few want those jobs. That's why the immigrants got them.

2 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

You can only say that because you assume a government program is a good thing. I believe most government programs are an attack on our freedoms.

Jobs like USAID were very good for the country (farmers) and the good will toward US.

2 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

I know far more than you do.

^Only in your FANTASIES. IF you did, you could show everyone where the climate scientists are wrong.

And give a TED Talk like the one I posted.  Instead you've never posted ANYTHING about the SCIENCE HERE.

[Legato]

1 minute ago, robosmith said:

You need to READ your NAKED LINK. It says the last TWO are BULLSHIT.

And also watch the YOUTUBE I posted which SHOWS Trump saying stopped the war between Alberbian and Albania.

Aberbian isn't even a country and Azerbaijan was never at war with Albania. LMAO 

And this could be Trump's for whom you have a very LOW BAR. LMAO

Very few want those jobs. That's why the immigrants got them.

Jobs like USAID were very good for the country (farmers) and the good will toward US.

^Only in your FANTASIES. IF you did, you could show everyone where the climate scientists are wrong.

And give a TED Talk like the one I posted.  Instead you've never posted ANYTHING about the SCIENCE HERE.

You bumblefrumps are always saying follow the science.

I did follow the science and found nothing.

Then I followed the money and found the science.

[robosmith]

Just now, Legato said:

You bumblefrumps are always saying follow the science.

I did follow the science and found nothing.

Then I followed the money and found the science.

Which Climate Science journals have you pretended to read?

If you can't name 10 in a post in 5 minutes we'll know YOU'RE LYING.

[Legato]

1 minute ago, robosmith said:

Which Climate Science journals have you pretended to read?

If you can't name 10 in a post in 5 minutes we'll know YOU'RE LYING.

How about Tolkien's Lord of the Rings and Hobbit books. Followed by Frank Herbert's Dune double trilogy. 

All which have the sky is falling sequences.

Put down your Enid Blyton books and read the above.

If you can't name the lead character her Famous Five books we'll know you lying.

 

[robosmith]

58 minutes ago, Legato said:

How about Tolkien's Lord of the Rings and Hobbit books. Followed by Frank Herbert's Dune double trilogy. 

All which have the sky is falling sequences.

Put down your Enid Blyton books and read the above.

If you can't name the lead character her Famous Five books we'll know you lying.

 

I don't read FICTION and never said I do. 

You CLAIMED to "follow the science" but YOU:RE LYING