Trump’s Latest Flip Flop: says can take back Russian-occupied territory

[August1991]

If Trump gets a deal with these two stubborn Slavic nations, he deserves a prize. 

[User]

On 10/10/2025 at 5:05 PM, taxme said:

Putin is supposed to be seen as the bad guy because our lying and fake bought off corporate Canadian media tells us and has conditioned the sheeple to think so. Has no one learned anything yet by now that when the lying liberal Canadian MSM attacks and says that Putin is the problem, they should do as i do. Just go the reverse of what the MSM says and then you will know as to who is the real bad guy here. That would be Zelensky the fascist barbarian of course. With the lying leftwing MSM people like Putin, Trump and PP are always seen as the bad hombres here. Phkn ridiculous indeed. 

What lie? How is Zelenksi the fascist barbarian?

You offer nothing but absurd drivel here. 

[taxme]

On 10/22/2025 at 7:03 PM, User said:

What lie? How is Zelenksi the fascist barbarian?

You offer nothing but absurd drivel here. 

The many lies that the MSM leftist controlled and bought off media in Canada had to say that Putin is the problem here. Zelensky s the barbarian treated the citizens of the Donbass like scum. Fascist Zelensky hated anything Russian and the people of the Donbass were pretty much all of Russian decent. It was the people of the Donbass that asked Putin to come in and save them from the terrible barbarian treatment that Fascist Zelensky was giving them. 

It looks to me like you are the one that likes to spread drivel here, comrade. 🤪

[User]

35 minutes ago, taxme said:

The many lies that the MSM leftist controlled and bought off media in Canada had to say that Putin is the problem here.

Not an answer, just another baseless assertion about lies. What lies?

35 minutes ago, taxme said:

Zelensky s the barbarian treated the citizens of the Donbass like scum.

Another absurdly outlandish baseless claim.

36 minutes ago, taxme said:

Fascist Zelensky hated anything Russian and the people of the Donbass were pretty much all of Russian decent.

You are the one pushing lies now.

37 minutes ago, taxme said:

It was the people of the Donbass that asked Putin to come in and save them from the terrible barbarian treatment that Fascist Zelensky was giving them. 

More lies. You might as well be a paid shill for Putin at this point.

 

[taxme]

2 hours ago, User said:

Not an answer, just another baseless assertion about lies. What lies?

Another absurdly outlandish baseless claim.

You are the one pushing lies now.

More lies. You might as well be a paid shill for Putin at this point.

 

You really do have a broken brain, comrade. You believe the lies about Putin because the lying and fake Canadian bought off media tells you so. You need to try and read or listen to some conservative alternative media news outlets to try and get your lying fictions about Putin straight. Now i am not trying to say that Putin is an angel here, but then again, neither is Zelensky. And what leftist news outlet do you belong to and donate to and keep listening to their propaganda and bullshit lies, comrade? 

[User]

On 10/24/2025 at 3:22 PM, taxme said:

You really do have a broken brain, comrade. You believe the lies about Putin because the lying and fake Canadian bought off media tells you so. You need to try and read or listen to some conservative alternative media news outlets to try and get your lying fictions about Putin straight.

What lies?

On 10/24/2025 at 3:22 PM, taxme said:

Now i am not trying to say that Putin is an angel here, but then again, neither is Zelensky.

Putin is the one invading Ukraine right now. Putin was the one who started the shadow war in the Donbas. 

[herbie]

On 10/7/2025 at 12:26 PM, Army Guy said:

America's credibility remains intact...

At 0%

[SpankyMcFarland]

The leader of Ukraine is a Russian-speaking Jewish comedian, hardly a natural standard bearer for tribal nationalism. I believe this war is about defending freedom in Eastern Europe. Glory to Ukraine. 

[taxme]

2 hours ago, User said:

What lies?

Putin is the one invading Ukraine right now. Putin was the one who started the shadow war in the Donbas. 

The lies that said that Putin invaded Ukraine just for the fun of it. Putin was invited into Ukraine because of Zelensky and his hatred for the Russian Ukranian people that are the majority in the Donbas. It is high time for you to get your lying bullshit about Putin in order, comrade. Just saying. 

[User]

1 hour ago, herbie said:

At 0%

Doing more for Ukraine than Canada is doing and has done far more. 

[herbie]

Like telling them to surrenderf a huge chink of their country to the invader so you can win a "peace Prize"? When you're not the ones dying?
Giving them lots of older weapons and restocking with the very latest so your billionaire buddies can enrich themselves?
Publicly shaming their leader while rolling out the red carpet to suck up to Putin?

No, Canada hasn't done any of that. Thank God.
I think we should maybe buy a bunch of cruise missiles, write it off as NATO contribution spending and give them to Ukraine. Maybe offer to build them a nuke or two.

[Army Guy]

2 hours ago, herbie said:

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Well Hamas thinks trumps threats are pretty serious...along with all of NATO who are seem to listen to what the US has to say...That's what happens when you got all the guns and the means to use them....Respect...

[Army Guy]

20 minutes ago, herbie said:

Like telling them to surrenderf a huge chink of their country to the invader so you can win a "peace Prize"? When you're not the ones dying?
Giving them lots of older weapons and restocking with the very latest so your billionaire buddies can enrich themselves?
Publicly shaming their leader while rolling out the red carpet to suck up to Putin?

No, Canada hasn't done any of that. Thank God.
I think we should maybe buy a bunch of cruise missiles, write it off as NATO contribution spending and give them to Ukraine. Maybe offer to build them a nuke or two.

Canada clean out the junk closet and most of what we have given is just that junk....perhaps the only thing we gave them was a few new vehicles just off the line because what does our military need new equipment for....

[User]

1 hour ago, herbie said:

No, Canada hasn't done any of that. Thank God.

No, you have done even less. Go complain to your own government to do more to go fight this war for Ukraine. 

 

2 hours ago, taxme said:

The lies that said that Putin invaded Ukraine just for the fun of it.

Who is saying that? I certainly do not believe Putin is doing this just for the fun of it. 

2 hours ago, taxme said:

Putin was invited into Ukraine because of Zelensky and his hatred for the Russian Ukranian people that are the majority in the Donbas.

No, Putin was not "invited"

 

[Nationalist]

70% of Ukrainians now want a peace deal. The people are willing to accept a loss of those eastern provinces in order to stop the slaughter. 

I cant find a poll newer than February of this year on The Green T-Shirt. But his support has been dropping steadily for a few years now. In May The Green T-Shirt renewed his military takeover by denying a normally scheduled election.

As long as this dictator is in power, there will not be peace in Ukraine. Russia has no reason to stop and has wiped out most of Ukraine's electrical grid. Thus the Ukrainian people are in for another bitter winter.

If the vast majority of Ukrainians want a peace deal now...why would anyone deny them this?

[User]

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

70% of Ukrainians now want a peace deal. The people are willing to accept a loss of those eastern provinces in order to stop the slaughter. 

I cant find a poll newer than February of this year on The Green T-Shirt. But his support has been dropping steadily for a few years now. In May The Green T-Shirt renewed his military takeover by denying a normally scheduled election.

As long as this dictator is in power, there will not be peace in Ukraine. Russia has no reason to stop and has wiped out most of Ukraine's electrical grid. Thus the Ukrainian people are in for another bitter winter.

If the vast majority of Ukrainians want a peace deal now...why would anyone deny them this?

This has always been such a dishonest talking point, one that you have pushed before and been soundly rebuffed on.

Ukraine is being invaded. They are under war. A significant chunk of their population is under enemy control as well as many have taken refuge outside of Ukraine.

They don’t have the infrastructure to hold an actual election and you demanding they do and calling Zelensky a dictator is just more of your outlandishly absurd BS. 

[Nationalist]

24 minutes ago, User said:

This has always been such a dishonest talking point, one that you have pushed before and been soundly rebuffed on.

Ukraine is being invaded. They are under war. A significant chunk of their population is under enemy control as well as many have taken refuge outside of Ukraine.

They don’t have the infrastructure to hold an actual election and you demanding they do and calling Zelensky a dictator is just more of your outlandishly absurd BS. 

Not at all. The "war" is only in 20% of the nation and its populated by ethnic Russians who would likely not vote for The Green T-Shirt.

They could hold elections quite easily. But if they did...The Green T-Shirt and his war would be on the outs.

70% User. The population has had enough of this folly.

[User]

Just now, Nationalist said:

Not at all. The "war" is only in 20% of the nation and its populated by ethnic Russians who would likely not vote for The Green T-Shirt.

They could hold elections quite easily. But if they did...The Green T-Shirt and his war would be on the outs.

70% User. The population has had enough of this folly.

Your thoughts on how people may or may not vote doesn’t change that they can’t possibly vote in any kind of fair way now, nor did you respond to the fact that the nation is on a war footing fighting an invasion with its infrastructure not able to support fair elections let alone account for its population in various stages of refugee status. 
 

This isn’t America fighting some war across the globe somewhere.

It is Ukraine fighting for their lives being invaded.

You are a disingenuous person, calling Zelensky a dictator while you cheer on Putin who actually is one. 

[Nationalist]

4 minutes ago, User said:

Your thoughts on how people may or may not vote doesn’t change that they can’t possibly vote in any kind of fair way now, nor did you respond to the fact that the nation is on a war footing fighting an invasion with its infrastructure not able to support fair elections let alone account for its population in various stages of refugee status. 
 

This isn’t America fighting some war across the globe somewhere.

It is Ukraine fighting for their lives being invaded.

You are a disingenuous person, calling Zelensky a dictator while you cheer on Putin who actually is one. 

Does Putin allow elections...even during a war? Why yes he does.

Ukraine is dead in the water and everyone knows it. 70% of those left in Ukraine want peace.

They need to be listened to. Or would you deny them that?

[User]

3 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Does Putin allow elections...even during a war? Why yes he does.

Ukraine is dead in the water and everyone knows it. 70% of those left in Ukraine want peace.

They need to be listened to. Or would you deny them that?

“Allow elections”

Yeah, let’s just ignore all the evidence for how dubious those are or the absurdity of believing Putin wins with 90% of the vote… while political opposition of any significance somehow dies of radiation poisoning or is sent to Siberia to rot.

[Nationalist]

5 minutes ago, User said:

“Allow elections”

Yeah, let’s just ignore all the evidence for how dubious those are or the absurdity of believing Putin wins with 90% of the vote… while political opposition of any significance somehow dies of radiation poisoning or is sent to Siberia to rot.

And you can prove these accusations...right?

[User]

5 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

And you can prove these accusations...right?

Yeah, these is ample evidence for how opposition leaders die under dubious circumstances, are sent to prison, or disqualified under dubious circumstances all while Putin miraculously makes it for yet another term with 90% support!

You are not a serious person. 

[herbie]

18 hours ago, Army Guy said:

That's what happens when you got all the guns and the means to use them....Respect...

So people like you seem to think.
Power from the barrel of a gun, just like Chairman Mao said, eh?
Fear = respect?

[User]

1 hour ago, herbie said:

So people like you seem to think.
Power from the barrel of a gun, just like Chairman Mao said, eh?
Fear = respect?

So you think Putin will be stopped with Unicorns and Rainbows? 

[Nationalist]

2 hours ago, User said:

Yeah, these is ample evidence for how opposition leaders die under dubious circumstances, are sent to prison, or disqualified under dubious circumstances all while Putin miraculously makes it for yet another term with 90% support!

You are not a serious person. 

Huh...tell me...where did Novalny get sick? I understand it was Germany. 

Interesting that I watch you consistently defend accusations against Trump, yet won't afford the same for other leaders. Don't you find that interesting? I find that interesting.

I have no illusions about Trump or Putin. Nor for The Green T-Shirt or Xi.

Who's serious User? One who understands reality and lives within it? Or one who has selective understanding?

Welcome...to the real world.

Edited October 27, 2025 by Nationalist