Will God punish Canada and those nations who are trying to divide Israel into two nations?

[taxme]

On 10/5/2025 at 2:08 PM, blackbird said:

Yes I believe it.   The mayor of London, UK, is a practicing Muslim.

"Sadiq Khan’s religion is Islam; he is a practising Sunni Muslim. His faith is a significant part of his identity, influencing his political focus on interfaith dialogue and community cohesion."

Muslims do not believe in freedom of religion or speech to begin with.  Nobody is allowed to question their religion.  

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A U.K. court has triggered alarm bells among secularists and free speech campaigners after it convicted an atheist who burned a Qur’an of violating laws against promoting public disorder while motivated by a “deep-seated hatred of Islam and its followers.”

In his ruling, Judge John McGarva, who serves in the Westminster Magistrates’ Court, noted that Hamit Coskun, whose mother’s family was killed in the Armenian genocide, “believes Islam is an ideology which encourages its followers to violence, paedophilia, and a disregard for the rights of non-believers.”

This judgment sets a dangerous precedent of protecting Islam from provocative critique.

Tim Dieppe

The ruling is likely a victory for the Labour government and its Islamist supporters who are attempting to pass blasphemy legislation to limit criticism of Islam by imposing a wide-ranging definition of “Islamophobia.”

Coskun, a 50-year-old political refugee from Turkey, was assaulted by knife-wielding Moussa Kadri after he set fire to the Qur’an outside the Turkish Embassy in London on February 13. Kadri pleaded guilty to the attack but denied being in possession of a bladed article. The Crown Prosecution Service told FWI that Kadri’s next court appearance will take place on July 1, 2025 in Westminster Magistrates’ Court.

Coskun was also kicked by a delivery driver after he fell to the ground. Coskun, who was fined £240 with a statutory surcharge of £96, said in response to the verdict, “Would I have been prosecuted if I’d set fire to a copy of the bible outside Westminster Abbey? I doubt it.”

U.K. Court Uses Public Order Law to Protect Muslim Sensibilities - Middle East Forum

The Islamization of Britain: Mosques Multiply as Christianity Fades (Videos) - RAIR

Radical Islamists killed 62,000 Christians in Nigeria over a few years not long ago and it is an ongoing genocide.  Apparently the government of Nigeria does little to nothing about it.  The Liberal left government in Canada and the mainstream media says absolutely nothing about it.  

 

The UK is in a shambles thanks to their traitorous white politicians that have brought in millions of non-whites, especially Muslims, into the UK. The Muslims alone are increasing in numbers every year by the hundreds and they keep calling for Sharia law for the UK. They refuse to assimilate into British culture and society. I believe that the UK is headed for a showdown with the Muslims. Islam does not believe in drinking, smoking, partying, drugs, dancing and women walking around in skirts and showing off their bodies to the men. They want all women to be covered up from head to toe. Shocking indeed. 

The leftist lieberal British politicians have gone absolutely insane. Canada should not be too far behind, thanks to our own white politicians, and with the lieberals here, betraying their own white people and homeland. The white politicians do know what they have done, but it is the lieberals here that support this bullshit and seem to think that they will be immune from their insane stupidity and ignorance. In time they will pay for their lieberal multicultural stupidity and promotion. Just my opinion. 

[taxme]

On 10/5/2025 at 2:47 PM, Michael Hardner said:

1. You toss out opinions without basis.  Majorities of Muslim nations believe in Democracy.
2. With good reason.  Both Muslims and Jews are targeted in this country.  Posters openly submit opinions that Muslims are different from other humans on here, corruptible by holy books where others are not.

You obviously are not paying attention to what is going on in the UK and other European countries. The Muslims in the UK and other European countries do not believe in peace and assimilation into British culture. They have stated many times that their goal is to take over the UK and turn it into a Muslim country with Sharia as the law of the land. Muslim nations do not believe in democracy. They only believe in Sharia law for the world and refuse to accept any other religion in their country.

Muslims now live in no go zones where the white British people and even the police dare not enter. They now have Sharia law in some cities in the UK. No drinking, no smoking, no drugs, no dancing, no singing and no just plain having fun. Those Muslim cities are boring as hell. Go try it sometime, MH. 

So are white conservative straight people in Canada that have become the targets for the federal lieberal government, something i think that is more important for Canadians to think about rather than worry about other people in this country. Just saying. 

[taxme]

On 10/6/2025 at 2:04 AM, blackbird said:

No, it is not God that caused the wicked world.

It is man, our first parents.  God instructed them not to eat the forbidden fruit but they ate it and that caused the fall of mankind.  That was the rebellion against God.

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At the point in time when Adam and Eve ate the fruit that God had told them not to eat, sin entered into the world. This was the fall of man. Before that time, Adam and Eve had the power to either obey God, or to sin by disobeying him. After that point, the inclination and tendency of man was to do only evil. The extent of man’s depravity after the fall is revealed in Genesis 6 where we read: “Then the Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great on the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.” (Genesis 6:5).

 

Paul described the fall of man saying: “Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned— for until the Law sin was in the world, but sin is not imputed when there is no law. Nevertheless death reigned from Adam until Moses, even over those who had not sinned in the likeness of the offense of Adam, who is a type of Him who was to come.” (Romans 5:12- 14). Paul then explained that just as sin came into the world through one man, Adam, and that one sin of Adam’s brought death and condemnation to every man, so also through one Man, Jesus Christ, and His one act of righteousness, God’s grace would overflow to many, resulting in justification that brings life.   unquote

The Fall of Man and Its Consequences - King James Version Bible

Believe what you want to believe and so will I. Someone needs to prove to me that there is a God that really does give a crap about mankind. A true and loving God would have stopped the turmoil in the world way in the beginning rather than allow it to continue on since time began. Come on? How or what will it take for your God to start giving a dam about what goes on on this planet. He knows who the evil people are, so he should do something about it. Seems easy enough to me. Just my opinion. 

[taxme]

3 hours ago, Gaétan said:

Don't you see that the real problem is the devil

Not only can anyone show proof that a God exists but there are now many people who believe that a devil exists. I guess why the world has gone mad for so long is because God and the devil have been duking it out ever since the world was created. This has gone for far too long. These two need to get together and work things out for humanity's sake. Just saying. 

[blackbird]

2 hours ago, taxme said:

Someone needs to prove to me that there is a God that really does give a crap about mankind.

First you have to understand when God created Adam and Eve, he gave them freedom of choice but he also told them they could eat any fruit in the garden of Eden except the tree of knowledge of good and evil in the middle of the garden.

When God created mankind, he could have just created robots which would obey his commands or he could give them free will.  God chose to give mankind free will.  Why was that?  Maybe you can explain.

Try to look at it from God's point of view.  He gave them free will but with the hope they would honour God by obeying his simple instruction not to eat that particular fruit.  His purpose in creating man would seem to be share his love.  If you study the Scriptures you will learn God is love and he loves mankind.

Certainly God didn't need mankind.  He is omnipotent and omniscient and omnipresent.  

He is also a loving God and a merciful God.

How much does he love man?

Well, consider this.  God sent his own unique Son, Jesus Christ, to earth to die on a cross to pay for man's sin against God.  He suffered the most painful treatment and death on the cross.  That must be incredible love in that he did that for an atonement for man's sinful character.

2 hours ago, taxme said:

He knows who the evil people are, so he should do something about it.

He is doing something about it, but on his own timetable.  Nobody is getting away with anything.  There is judgment after death.  And Jesus Christ is returning to earth at some point and will rule on earth for 1,000 years.  After that, he will create a new heaven and new earth.  

Everything that is happening on earth is according to God's providence.  We don't fully understand it but God has a plan.

Sure God could have just created robots instead of free-thinking humans.  But what would be the purpose for God of having a bunch of robots?

So as I explained, man was given free will.  But man broke the trust and relationship with God by his rebellion and this meant man had made his own fallen nature.  God is perfection.  Everything happens in God's timetable.  Remember God is omnipotent and we are the mere created beings.  God's timetable is a long one.  But he hasn't disappeared.  He dealt with man's fallen corrupt nature as I said.  Everyone has the choice to get on board by studying the KJV Bible and believing what it says in the New Testament.  God isn't finished with man.  Life does not end at death.  God created man with a soul and spirit.  There is life after death and God's Son, Jesus is returning to earth at some point.  Those who believe in God's Son, Jesus Christ, repent of their sins, and believe Jesus' death on the cross paid for their sins personally,  receive eternal life now and will live forever in paradise with Him.  That sounds like a loving God to me and an incredible offer, which I gladly took.

I don't know how much time I have left here, but I know where I am going.  I praise the Lord for his great salvation.  Amen.

Edited October 8, 2025 by blackbird

[taxme]

15 hours ago, blackbird said:

First you have to understand when God created Adam and Eve, he gave them freedom of choice but he also told them they could eat any fruit in the garden of Eden except the tree of knowledge of good and evil in the middle of the garden.

When God created mankind, he could have just created robots which would obey his commands or he could give them free will.  God chose to give mankind free will.  Why was that?  Maybe you can explain.

Try to look at it from God's point of view.  He gave them free will but with the hope they would honour God by obeying his simple instruction not to eat that particular fruit.  His purpose in creating man would seem to be share his love.  If you study the Scriptures you will learn God is love and he loves mankind.

Certainly God didn't need mankind.  He is omnipotent and omniscient and omnipresent.  

He is also a loving God and a merciful God.

How much does he love man?

Well, consider this.  God sent his own unique Son, Jesus Christ, to earth to die on a cross to pay for man's sin against God.  He suffered the most painful treatment and death on the cross.  That must be incredible love in that he did that for an atonement for man's sinful character.

He is doing something about it, but on his own timetable.  Nobody is getting away with anything.  There is judgment after death.  And Jesus Christ is returning to earth at some point and will rule on earth for 1,000 years.  After that, he will create a new heaven and new earth.  

Everything that is happening on earth is according to God's providence.  We don't fully understand it but God has a plan.

Sure God could have just created robots instead of free-thinking humans.  But what would be the purpose for God of having a bunch of robots?

So as I explained, man was given free will.  But man broke the trust and relationship with God by his rebellion and this meant man had made his own fallen nature.  God is perfection.  Everything happens in God's timetable.  Remember God is omnipotent and we are the mere created beings.  God's timetable is a long one.  But he hasn't disappeared.  He dealt with man's fallen corrupt nature as I said.  Everyone has the choice to get on board by studying the KJV Bible and believing what it says in the New Testament.  God isn't finished with man.  Life does not end at death.  God created man with a soul and spirit.  There is life after death and God's Son, Jesus is returning to earth at some point.  Those who believe in God's Son, Jesus Christ, repent of their sins, and believe Jesus' death on the cross paid for their sins personally,  receive eternal life now and will live forever in paradise with Him.  That sounds like a loving God to me and an incredible offer, which I gladly took.

I don't know how much time I have left here, but I know where I am going.  I praise the Lord for his great salvation.  Amen.

Why did god not want Adam and Eve to eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil in his garden? I would want any of my children to seek good and know evil. Do you even know what you are saying here? 

Your god has a strange way of showing his mercy and love. His children have been killing each other for thousands of years, and your god does nothing about it. Some parent, eh? I have no idea as to who started life on earth but it is high time for whomever created this place called earth, to fix the turmoil that has been going on for eons. All you seem to try and do here is to try and find excuses for why your god keeps the chaos going.

If god is doing something about the mess that he has allowed to continue on he sure is not in any hurry alright. Thousands of years are still not enough for him to straighten his timetable out. 

IMHO, i believe that what is really going on here is some kind of an AI computer like game going on here and we are just part of that game and that this game of life is only just the beginning and will go on for many many centuries if not longer. This reminds of that computer game where someone starts up a city and then expands on it and it just goes on and on from there. How do we know that we are not just little characters in this game of life and city and when our time comes up we get deleted.

Maybe i have been watching way too many Star Trek shows and movies. But on one Star Trek Enterprise show, what i said above was mentioned by a character called Captain Picard of that Star ship. We will all find out when we die one day. We may all just die and that is it. We are history. Hey, we never know, eh? 😇

[Legato]

Walk into a GM car dealership and ask the salesman if he believes in God.

If the answer is yes then immediately leave and go buy a Ford.

[blackbird]

1 hour ago, Legato said:

Walk into a GM car dealership and ask the salesman if he believes in God.

If the answer is yes then immediately leave and go buy a Ford.

The first question is which god?   There are many false gods in the world and many false religions based on them.

The true God is revealed in the Bible, in English, the King James Bible.

Proverbs chapter one tells us "7  The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction. "   Proverbs 1:7 KJV

"7  Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the LORD, and depart from evil. 8  It shall be health to thy navel, and marrow to thy bones." Proverbs 3:7 KJV

The Westminster Confession of Faith, chap. X. Of Effectual Calling says:

I. All those whom God hath predestinated unto life, and those only, He is pleased, in His appointed time, effectually to call, 215 by His Word and Spirit, 216 out of that state of sin and death, in which they are by nature to grace and salvation, by Jesus Christ; 217 enlightening their minds spiritually and savingly to understand the things of God, 218 taking away their heart of stone, and giving unto them an heart of flesh; 219 renewing their wills, and, by His almighty power, determining them to that which is good, 220 and effectually drawing them to Jesus Christ: 221 yet so, as they come most freely, being made willing by His grace. 222 II. This effectual call is of God's free and special grace alone, not from anything at all foreseen in man, 223 who is altogether passive therein, until, being quickened and renewed by the Holy Spirit, 224 he is thereby enabled to answer this call, and to embrace the grace offered and conveyed in it. 225 III. Spirit, 226 Elect infants, dying in infancy, are regenerated, and saved by Christ, through the who works when, and where, and how He pleases: 227 so also are all other elect persons who are incapable of being outwardly called by the ministry of the Word. 22   unquote

The Westminster Confession of Faith

This confession and verses in the Bible such as in Romans ch9 appear to support the teaching in the Westminster Confession of Faith, that it is entirely God's prerogative who he calls.  

"

13  As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated. 

14  What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid. 15  For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. 16  So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy."  Romans 9:13-16 KJV

 

 

Edited October 8, 2025 by blackbird

[blackbird]

1 hour ago, taxme said:

I have no idea as to who started life on earth but it is high time for whomever created this place called earth, to fix the turmoil that has been going on for eons. All you seem to try and do here is to try and find excuses for why your god keeps the chaos going.

Man is only a created being.   God created man and questioning God and saying how He should do things just doesn't sound right.  God is not a political leader whom we can criticize or demand anything.  We must approach God on bended knee so to speak and with a contrite spirit.  God owes man nothing.  We are the sinners in need of forgiveness, mercy, and grace.

I don't know who is predestined to receive eternal life.  But the Bible seems to make it clear it is God who foreordains those who will be saved.  In light of this it is wise to have a very humble attitude about God and realize our place in this universe which He created.  We are as specks of dust.

"215 ROM 8:30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified. 11:7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded. EPH 1:10 That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him: 11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will. 216 2TH 2:13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth: 14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. 2CO 3:3 Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart. 6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life. 217 ROM 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. EPH 2:1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; 2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience: 3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others. 4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, 5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved). 2TI 1:9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began, 10 But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel."

The Westminster Confession of Faith

Edited October 8, 2025 by blackbird

[Nefarious Banana]

'Don't tell lies' . . . 'Do unto others' . . .

Will probably get a person through life just fine . . .

[taxme]

On 10/8/2025 at 12:35 PM, blackbird said:

Man is only a created being.   God created man and questioning God and saying how He should do things just doesn't sound right.  God is not a political leader whom we can criticize or demand anything.  We must approach God on bended knee so to speak and with a contrite spirit.  God owes man nothing.  We are the sinners in need of forgiveness, mercy, and grace.

I don't know who is predestined to receive eternal life.  But the Bible seems to make it clear it is God who foreordains those who will be saved.  In light of this it is wise to have a very humble attitude about God and realize our place in this universe which He created.  We are as specks of dust.

"215 ROM 8:30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified. 11:7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded. EPH 1:10 That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him: 11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will. 216 2TH 2:13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth: 14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. 2CO 3:3 Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart. 6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life. 217 ROM 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. EPH 2:1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; 2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience: 3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others. 4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, 5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved). 2TI 1:9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began, 10 But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel."

The Westminster Confession of Faith

All just more of your bible nonsense. You need to ask those Christians living in Nigeria if their god really does believe in their well being. I am pretty sure that they are praying to your god every day who appears to not give a dam about his Christian followers in Nigeria. The black Muslim Boka Haram brotherhood has slaughtered hundreds of thousands of black Christian Nigerians and there seems to be no end in sight. Let's face it, your god could care less about humanity. It would appear as though your god is enjoying as to what is going on in Nigeria. If i were god, all of that killing would end now. Lucky for the Muslim murderers in Nigeria that i am not god. I would pick them up one by one and throw them into hell. Just saying. 🫠

[blackbird]

45 minutes ago, taxme said:

All just more of your bible nonsense.

None of it is "nonsense".  It's sad that you don't actually read what I posted and do a little further study of the many verses I referred to in the Bible.  Perhaps even read some summaries of what the Bible is all about.  I don't think you really know anything much about it.  I don't take what you say seriously on the subject because I have dealt with many people on this topic who don't seem to have much idea of the subject at all so they just dismiss it out of hand.  It is sad really because where we spend eternity depends on it.  I couldn't think of anything more important than that.  

It is tragic what is happening in places like Nigeria.   However, I am sure God has it all covered in his plan.  Christians are losing their lives in huge numbers there, but they are not the losers.  The murderers there are on their way to hell for eternity.  The Christians are going to heaven with their Lord for eternity.  That is the bottom line.  So who loses in the end?  It is definitely not the Christians.  I am sure there will be special rewards for martyrs too.

Edited October 10, 2025 by blackbird

[taxme]

48 minutes ago, blackbird said:

None of it is "nonsense".  It's sad that you don't actually read what I posted and do a little further study of the many verses I referred to in the Bible.  Perhaps even read some summaries of what the Bible is all about.  I don't think you really know anything much about it.  I don't take what you say seriously on the subject because I have dealt with many people on this topic who don't seem to have much idea of the subject at all so they just dismiss it out of hand.  It is sad really because where we spend eternity depends on it.  I couldn't think of anything more important than that.  

It is tragic what is happening in places like Nigeria.   However, I am sure God has it all covered in his plan.  Christians are losing their lives in huge numbers there, but they are not the losers.  The murderers there are on their way to hell for eternity.  The Christians are going to heaven with their Lord for eternity.  That is the bottom line.  So who loses in the end?  It is definitely not the Christians.  I am sure there will be special rewards for martyrs too.

The only good thing i like about the bible is the ten commandments. Of course today, we should now have at least 20 commandments in the bible with all of the new crimes criminals have now created and have given us all. Other than that, the bible makes no sense at all. A bunch of mish-mash words in the bible that really means nothing at all. 😇

[blackbird]

1 hour ago, taxme said:

Other than that, the bible makes no sense at all. A bunch of mish-mash words in the bible that really means nothing at all. 

The best way to approach it is to read it in small parts regularly or daily.  It is not difficult to understand.  I would be happy to try to answer any questions you have.  

The Gospel of John in the New Testament is an excellent place to start.  Just read one chapter.  I will give an example of part of chapter 3 to show it is not too difficult to understand.

Jesus was speaking to a man called Nicodemus, a Pharisee.  He was explaining to Nicodemus what being born again means.  He told him that no man can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again.  Nicodemus thought he was speaking about the earthly birth from a mother's womb.  But Jesus told him He was speaking of being born of the Spirit.  In other words He was speaking about a spiritual birth.  

Chapter 3 says in part:

"12  If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things? 13  And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. 14  And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: 15  That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 16  For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17  For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18  He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19  And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20  For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. {reproved: or, discovered} 21  But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. "    John 3:12-21 KJV

An excellent online King James Bible is at this website:

Here it is at the Gospel of John, chapter 1.  Of course you can look up any book of the Bible you wish.

JOHN CHAPTER 1 KJV

[Gaétan]

On 10/8/2025 at 2:06 PM, taxme said:

Why did god not want Adam and Eve to eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil in his garden? 

It wasn't God but the Devil, and the forbidden fruit was a body trap.

[Gaétan]

10 minutes ago, blackbird said:

The best way to approach it is to read it in small parts regularly or daily.  It is not difficult to understand.  I would be happy to try to answer any questions you have.  

The Gospel of John in the New Testament is an excellent place to start.  Just read one chapter.  I will give an example of part of chapter 3 to show it is not too difficult to understand.

Jesus was speaking to a man called Nicodemus, a Pharisee.  He was explaining to Nicodemus what being born again means.  He told him that no man can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again.  Nicodemus thought he was speaking about the earthly birth from a mother's womb.  But Jesus told him He was speaking of being born of the Spirit.  In other words He was speaking about a spiritual birth.  

 

After your death, you are born into the spirit world—that’s what it means. And when that happens, you can pass through the tunnel and enter the Kingdom of Heaven.

[taxme]

20 hours ago, blackbird said:

The best way to approach it is to read it in small parts regularly or daily.  It is not difficult to understand.  I would be happy to try to answer any questions you have.  

The Gospel of John in the New Testament is an excellent place to start.  Just read one chapter.  I will give an example of part of chapter 3 to show it is not too difficult to understand.

Jesus was speaking to a man called Nicodemus, a Pharisee.  He was explaining to Nicodemus what being born again means.  He told him that no man can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again.  Nicodemus thought he was speaking about the earthly birth from a mother's womb.  But Jesus told him He was speaking of being born of the Spirit.  In other words He was speaking about a spiritual birth.  

Chapter 3 says in part:

"12  If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things? 13  And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. 14  And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: 15  That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 16  For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17  For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18  He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19  And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20  For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. {reproved: or, discovered} 21  But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. "    John 3:12-21 KJV

An excellent online King James Bible is at this website:

Here it is at the Gospel of John, chapter 1.  Of course you can look up any book of the Bible you wish.

JOHN CHAPTER 1 KJV

Such nonsense indeed. Your god is an evil god who enjoys watching suffering of his children to continue to go on in the world. How much longer does this god of yours will say enough already, which should have happened centuries ago. Believe your nonsense all you want because i certainly do not. 🫠

20 hours ago, Gaétan said:

After your death, you are born into the spirit world—that’s what it means. And when that happens, you can pass through the tunnel and enter the Kingdom of Heaven.

How the hell would you know this?

[taxme]

20 hours ago, Gaétan said:

It wasn't God but the Devil, and the forbidden fruit was a body trap.

Do you really believe such nonsense? 

[Gaétan]

2 hours ago, taxme said:

Do you really believe such nonsense? 

What makes no sense is trying to convince stubborn people.”

[blackbird]

4 hours ago, taxme said:

Believe your nonsense all you want because i certainly do not. 🫠

You are perfectly free to believe or not believe whatever you wish.

For myself, I believe that God was merciful to me when I heard the gospel over the radio one evening about 45 years ago and believed it.  It made complete sense.  I recall the Minister on the radio quoting 1 Corinthians chap. 15 vs 1-4 KJV.  He said:

"1  Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2  By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. {keep…: or, hold fast} {what: Gr. by what speech} 3  For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4  And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

Then he mentioned  Romans chap. 10 vs 13 KJV which said:

" 13  For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. "

 All of this hit me.  I realized I could be heading for a lost eternity and I immediately asked the Lord to save me as the verse above says.  I repented of my sins.  (Felt sorrow for my sins in my life and asked for forgiveness)  I asked Jesus Christ to save me.

I believe the Lord did save me that evening.  Only God can save us.  We can't save ourselves no matter what some might tell you.