What The Liberals Did To Canada

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, Goddess said:

I'm getting really tired of you just saying things with no cites.

Google it yourself. Why are you so incapable?

1 hour ago, Goddess said:

He's stuck with a system he has no power over.

So he's not allowed to talk to lobbyists or are they not allowed to talk to him?  

Nothing whatsoever in the lobbying act that forbids that. I don't even have to go look to know that's just a bullshit excuse you made up.

1 hour ago, Goddess said:

I don't think it's fair to hold him accountable for things he promised to do when he gets to be PM, at a time when he does not have the power to change anything.

Again, you just keep doubling down on the same excuse. He doesn't have to be PM to tell lobbyists he's not interested in talking to them. He can start setting a better example for other politicians immediately.

1 hour ago, Goddess said:

For now, he doesn't have the power to change the system.

It's merely his own behavior he needs to change.

You're effectively saying the Lobbying Act has tied his hands and nothing other than in-camera meetings are allowed. Maybe you think lobbying is a privilege that only elected officials can partake in.

I don't think you have a clue about what you're saying 

[CdnFox]

9 hours ago, eyeball said:

Sure, just like most of the economy is little more than pie in the sky.

No, the economy is quite real.  When people don't have a job because the liberal's policies killed the economy, that's real. When 25 percent of canadians have to visit the food bank in a year, that's real.  when people can't afford to feed their kids properly that's real. 

The only people who think it's 'pie in the sky' are left wing heartless losers who really don't give a crap about kids or the like, they just care about their ideology. 

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, I am Groot said:

Don't mistake judgment for partisanship. Was anything I wrote incorrect?  I can't believe Ford got re-elected after that debacle either. People died because people like Ford and Trudeau weren't up to the job.

What you wrote was close enough I suppose but at the end of the day, Canadians still died and got sick at less than half the rate as right next door. I think that can largely be chalked up to more Canadians having had a better grip than Americans. We certainly didn't have politicians encouraging people to eschew measures.

You're saying Trump did everything right? If you say so.

[eyeball]

2 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

The only people who think it's 'pie in the sky' are left wing heartless losers who really don't give a crap about kids or the like, they just care about their ideology. 

Awwww.

I just don't care much for yours is all.

[CdnFox]

15 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Awwww.

I just don't care much for yours is all.

Why don't you care about the lives of my kids? Did you think they were jewish or something? That WOULD explain it  

You don't care about any kid if they get in the way of your narrative. 

[eyeball]

8 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Why don't you care about the lives of my kids?

They should probably be in the care of child services.

 

9 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

You don't care about any kid if they get in the way of your narrative. 

Naw, that's just your narrative blowing back at you.

[CdnFox]

Just now, eyeball said:

They should probably be in the care of child services.

If they were Jewish you would say they should just be shot right? Like all those other kids that were shot that you approve of

1 minute ago, eyeball said:

Naw, that's just your narrative blowing back at you.

Nothing's blowing back against me, and you have a long history of approving of children being killed as long as they're Jewish. Although I admit that's not entirely fair, you're okay with anybody being killed if they're Jewish child or not

[eyeball]

24 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

If they were Jewish you would say they should just be shot right? Like all those other kids that were shot that you approve of

🤣

24 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Nothing's blowing back against me, and you have a long history of approving of children being killed as long as they're Jewish. Although I admit that's not entirely fair, you're okay with anybody being killed if they're Jewish child or not

Sure kid, you're positively thrilled when Jews kill kids.

[Goddess]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Google it yourself. Why are you so incapable?

I think it's even in the rules for the forum that it's YOU that has to provide cites for your statements and cites to back up your opinion.

 

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

So he's not allowed to talk to lobbyists or are they not allowed to talk to him?  

What he said - repeatedly - during the election campaign, is that lobbyists were welcome to speak to him, but that he would be telling them it wouldn't do them any good - they had to plea their own cases directly to the public and convince the public.

 

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

He doesn't have to be PM to tell lobbyists he's not interested in talking to them. He can start setting a better example for other politicians immediately.

Since you've apparently been in these meetings between Poilievre and lobbyists, why don't you share what is being said by him?

As usual, you hold Poilievre to a higher standard than any Liberal, including Carney.  Shouldn't it be the PM who sets the example for everybody else?

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

It's merely his own behavior he needs to change.

Again - he has said lobbyists are welcome to speak to him, but they have to plead their own cases to the public.

So, again - tell us what is being said in those meetings.  You insist you know exactly what's going on.  So.....tell us.

[eyeball]

9 minutes ago, Goddess said:

I think it's even in the rules for the forum that it's YOU that has to provide cites for your statements and cites to back up your opinion.

It's not an opinion.

Paste this into a browser and tell me what you find, how many times did Poilievre or his staff meet with lobbyists after saying lobbyists should talk directly to voters

Here's what I get...there's lots of links for you to explore.

$10 say you'll reject it out of hand. 

• Public Stance: In March 2024, Poilievre called corporate lobbyists "utterly useless" and later published a memo in the National Post advising them to "fire your lobbyist" and talk directly to voters.
• Official Meeting Records:
  • Staff Activity: In the 12-month period ending June 2024—overlapping his anti-lobbyist rhetoric—records showed at least 46 communications between Poilievre or his staff and oil and gas lobbyists alone.
  • Direct Meetings: A 2024 analysis found that Poilievre himself met with registered lobbyists 26 times over a 12-month period.
  • Overall Record: Since becoming leader in September 2022, he has appeared in at least 50 communication reports in the federal Lobbying Registry.
• Fundraising Events: Investigations by CBC News and The Breach identified that Poilievre headlined roughly 50 private fundraisers attended by more than 100 registered lobbyists.
• Staff Engagement: Some lobbying events, such as a "Hill Day" organized by Electricity Canada, were attended by Poilievre’s senior staff just days after he publicly criticized such events as pointless. 
   

 

9 minutes ago, Goddess said:

So, again - tell us what is being said in those meetings.  You insist you know exactly what's going on.  So.....tell us.

Whatever it is Poilievre already told us it was useless.

Edited February 26 by eyeball

[Goddess]

18 minutes ago, eyeball said:

$10 say you'll reject it out of hand. 

It's more of an issue for you, not me.

He's been clear on how he feels about lobbyists and what he would do with them if he was in power.  He never said he wouldn't meet with them, he just said it wouldn't do any good.

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, Goddess said:

It's more of an issue for you, not me.

Yup. Like I said he made enough of the issue like l to have captured my attention. Should have known he's just a poser.

1 hour ago, Goddess said:

He's been clear on how he feels about lobbyists and what he would do with them if he was in power.  He never said he wouldn't meet with them, he just said it wouldn't do any good.

And he'll keep meeting with them anyway?

Why are we supposed to vote for this guy?

Edited February 26 by eyeball

[Goddess]

59 minutes ago, eyeball said:

And he'll keep meeting with them anyway?

They all meet with lobbyists, but Pierre says he has no use for them and if he was in power, he'd make them lobby citizens directly.  They would have to explain to taxpayers why they need bailouts and tax breaks.

I'm not surprised you have no problem with Liberals meeting with lobbyists and that Liberals cater to them constantly.  They are the main party that caters to the business cartels in Canada.

You always have totally different standards for Conservatives and those standards go right out the window when it comes to the Libs.

[Goddess]

2 minutes ago, Goddess said:

You always have totally different standards for Conservatives and those standards go right out the window when it comes to the Libs.

eyeball:  "I'm against lobbying but I'm always going to vote for the party that allows lobbying and never for the party that says they will do away with it when they are in power."

🙄

[eyeball]

2 minutes ago, Goddess said:

You always have totally different standards for Conservatives and those standards go right out the window when it comes to the Libs.

Do you know the colour of my eyes?

[Shady]

17 minutes ago, Goddess said:

eyeball:  "I'm against lobbying but I'm always going to vote for the party that allows lobbying and never for the party that says they will do away with it when they are in power."

🙄

And backroom deals to foster floor crossers.

[Legato]

10 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Do you know the colour of my eyes?

How could we, they change by the hour.

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, eyeball said:

🤣

Sure kid, you're positively thrilled when Jews kill kids.

Jews don't kill kids, hamas kills kids either directly or when they hide behind them in times of war. 

But you out and out support hamas doing so. You called it their "human right". 

And once again here you demonstrate that children or anyone else can suffer if they're in the way of your ideology 

That's the kind of guy you are  

[I am Groot]

4 hours ago, eyeball said:

What you wrote was close enough I suppose but at the end of the day, Canadians still died and got sick at less than half the rate as right next door. I think that can largely be chalked up to more Canadians having had a better grip than Americans. We certainly didn't have politicians encouraging people to eschew measures.

You're saying Trump did everything right? If you say so.

Where in the hell would you get any suggestion that Trump did everything right from what I wrote? I told you that my judgment is not based on partisanship. Trump's handling of the pandemic was incompetent, stupid, and mean-spirited. The only thing he did right was to make a grand gesture by throwing money at the pharmaceutical companies to develop a vaccine. 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Do you know the colour of my eyes?

Shit brown i'd suspect  

[I am Groot]

5 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Well maybe I'm not surprised that you don't understand the impact that tariffs have had on some sectors.  Rather than searching for useless articles on immigration maybe try looking for something that's applicable to today's economic challenges.  Just a thought.... 

How about this?

There is an ongoing debate over whether Canada is doing better economically than Alabama, based on their relative GDP per capita, with many on the Canadian Left arguing that our country's economic performance and quality of life look much better when other factors are taken into account.

Unfortunately, this argument misses the mark. When we expand our comparisons beyond Alabama, it quickly becomes apparent that GDP per capita is, if anything, overstating the relative state of our economy and wellbeing relative to our global peers.

 

https://archive.is/UOYsr

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, I am Groot said:

Where in the hell would you get any suggestion that Trump did everything right from what I wrote?

He's not Trudeau.

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, I am Groot said:

I told you that my judgment is not based on partisanship.

It is with every other non-conservative around here.

I stand corrected. But yeah, competence is an extremely rare commodity when it comes to politicians alright.

Of course most of their constituents can't tell shit from Shinola so...

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Shit brown i'd suspect  

Goddess should know explicitly  given she seems to think she knows everything else about me.

But, it's just how you people roll I guess.

[LinkSoul60]

24 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

How about this?

There is an ongoing debate over whether Canada is doing better economically than Alabama, based on their relative GDP per capita, with many on the Canadian Left arguing that our country's economic performance and quality of life look much better when other factors are taken into account.

Unfortunately, this argument misses the mark. When we expand our comparisons beyond Alabama, it quickly becomes apparent that GDP per capita is, if anything, overstating the relative state of our economy and wellbeing relative to our global peers.

 

https://archive.is/UOYsr

How about it?  If you read a counter to that NP article you'd have seen that it's not an accurate picture of overall living standards as it ignores factors like income distribution, healthcare, and social services.  Are you aware that Nunavut has a higher GDP per capita than Texas? Or California? Or New York? Or the entire US?  That doesn't give the full picture does it....

Taking your useless articles out of the equation for minute....  it's been quite obvious for some time now that Canada is lagging economically and in other areas which is why Trudeau was essentially forced out the door last year.  It's also the driving reason we had an election. 

Any other useless facts in your bag-o-articles?

 

Edited February 27 by LinkSoul60