"Let's Stop Killing Prominent Political Activists", says prominent political activist

[User]

17 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

What is wrong with that 🙂

Just keep playing your dishonest games. 

[WestCanMan]

There is no equivalency here.

High-profile leftists have been talking publicly about killing conservative leaders for years, and then defending it as comedy and art. 

Unless the leftists here can find examples of high-profile conservatives acting like Kathy Griffin, or they have examples of people like Hillary, Obama, Biden or Kamala getting shot, this isn't a "libs and conservatives" issue, it's a lib thing. 

Instead of coming here and engaging in bothsideism, leftists should just be acknowledging that their side has been hyper-violent since 2014, and it's time for it to stop before it blows up. 

[Michael Hardner]

18 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

There is no equivalency here.

1. like Kathy Griffin

So because Kathy Griffin made a joke, the violence is due to liberals?

 

Weak.

 

Mass shootings happen across the board, politically.  If you want to blame one side, you might yourself be a culture warrior.

[WestCanMan]

1 minute ago, Michael Hardner said:

So because Kathy Griffin made a joke, the violence is due to liberals?

 

Weak.

No. Your take is just stupid.

What Kathy Griffin did was not a joke, and yet liberals pretended that it was. 

By condoning the sentiments of Kathy Griffin, Madonna, Depp, DeNiro, the cast of Hamilton, etc, the left were grooming their cultists to think of political killings as heroic.

[CdnFox]

5 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

I pointed out that people joked about the attack on Paul Pelosi and only got deflection.

 

You pointing that out was deflection. It was dishonest and you should be deeply ashamed. And frankly my recollection is that most people initially were quite upset about the attack

but if you can't tell the difference between a random person with mental health issues being let into somebody's house and then becoming violent when the police show up and somebody deliberately going out with a plan to intentionally kill another person to silence their voice then there is something very badly wrong with you Mike.

[WestCanMan]

On 9/12/2025 at 4:44 PM, CdnFox said:

You pointing that out was deflection. It was dishonest and you should be deeply ashamed. And frankly my recollection is that most people initially were quite upset about the attack

but if you can't tell the difference between a random person with mental health issues being let into somebody's house and then becoming violent when the police show up and somebody deliberately going out with a plan to intentionally kill another person to silence their voice then there is something very badly wrong with you Mike.

TBH, when a guy just grabs a hammer and wanders to their house while high, that's not likely a plan that they got from listening to Fox News or any other mainstream conservative org. 

It's a crime of passion from a loonie.

You can't compare that to someone who's sober and carries out a plan that took them days or months to plot, where the intent is nothing less than murder. 

[CdnFox]

29 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

TBH, when a guy just grabs a hammer and wanders to their house while high, that's not likely a plan that they got from listening to Fox News or any other mainstream conservative org. 

It's a crime of passion from a loonie.

You can't compare that to someone who's sober and carries out a plan that took them days or months to plot, where the intent is nothing less than murder. 

Precisely. There's no real evidence that he even went there with the intent of harming that guy. Is he more like something that came up in the course of events unfortunately

Contrast that to this case where the guy deliberately went out and acquired a rifle illegally apparently retrieving it from a bush where it had been left wrapped in a blanket, carved messages to his enemies on the bullets and the gun and then deliberately executed a plan to assassinate someone to silence  their political view.

It's just not even remotely comparable

[West]

On 9/12/2025 at 11:36 AM, WestCanMan said:

https://www.foxnews.com/media/late-night-hosts-stephen-colbert-jimmy-kimmel-mourn-death-charlie-kirk?dicbo=v2-ry3J81A

It's interesting to see leftist leaders pumping the hate brakes.

Whether this was just a chance for them to get on the soapbox to look good, or they're doing it to save their own skin, at least they're speaking like decent human beings right now, and for that we should all be thankful. 

Not all leftists want to see conservatives dead but just like radical Islam there is enough of them to treat it as a serious threat. 

[LinkSoul60]

25 minutes ago, West said:

Not all leftists want to see conservatives dead but just like radical Islam there is enough of them to treat it as a serious threat. 

You understand that the data on political acts of violence in the US shows right extremists being far more active don't you?

[West]

1 minute ago, LinkSoul60 said:

You understand that the data on political acts of violence in the US shows right extremists being far more active don't you?

Not according to the vice president of the United States.

 

 

[LinkSoul60]

4 minutes ago, West said:

Not according to the vice president of the United States.

 

 

Well that says it all then.... 😂    Be serious, the guy has an obvious bias running through his blood that will not allow him to see or speak reality, if he wants a job.

Maybe rather than listening to JD try looking at some of the data from the two organizations who compile this type information;

https://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/2025/09/12/trump-blamed-charlie-kirk-murder-on-radical-left-data-says-right-wing-extremists-kill-more/86116958007/

https://www.cato.org/blog/politically-motivated-violence-rare-united-states

Since 2020, terrorists have killed 81 people in the U.S. Twenty-four people, including Kirk, have been slain for political reasons in 2025, as of Sept. 10, according to Nowrasteh.  "Right-wing terrorists account for over half of those murders, Islamists for 21 percent, left-wingers for 22 percent, and 1 percent had unknown or other motivations. There are not many politically motivated terrorist killings in the United States," Nowrasteh wrote.

Eighty-three percent of those murdered since 1975 were killed by the 9/11 terrorists (Figure 1). The Oklahoma City Bombing accounts for about another 5 percent. Those murdered since 2020 account for just 2 percent. Terrorists inspired by Islamist ideology are responsible for 87 percent of those murdered in attacks on US soil since 1975 (Table 1). Right-wingers are the second most common motivating ideology, accounting for 391 murders and 11 percent of the total. The definition here of right-wing terrorists includes those motivated by white supremacy, anti-abortion beliefs, involuntary celibacy (incels), and other right-wing ideologies.

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, LinkSoul60 said:

You understand that the data on political acts of violence in the US shows right extremists being far more active don't you?

STFU, dummy. 

Leftist leaders and their media outlets incited/committed/supported hundreds of thousands of violent acts since 2014. 

The only groups who committed more violent acts than violent American leftists since 2014 are entire countries that are at war, and no one else even comes close. 

[West]

2 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Well that says it all then.... 😂    Be serious, the guy has an obvious bias running through his blood that will not allow him to see or speak reality, if he wants a job.

Maybe rather than listening to JD try looking at some of the data from the two organizations who compile this type information;

https://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/2025/09/12/trump-blamed-charlie-kirk-murder-on-radical-left-data-says-right-wing-extremists-kill-more/86116958007/

https://www.cato.org/blog/politically-motivated-violence-rare-united-states

Since 2020, terrorists have killed 81 people in the U.S. Twenty-four people, including Kirk, have been slain for political reasons in 2025, as of Sept. 10, according to Nowrasteh.  "Right-wing terrorists account for over half of those murders, Islamists for 21 percent, left-wingers for 22 percent, and 1 percent had unknown or other motivations. There are not many politically motivated terrorist killings in the United States," Nowrasteh wrote.

Eighty-three percent of those murdered since 1975 were killed by the 9/11 terrorists (Figure 1). The Oklahoma City Bombing accounts for about another 5 percent. Those murdered since 2020 account for just 2 percent. Terrorists inspired by Islamist ideology are responsible for 87 percent of those murdered in attacks on US soil since 1975 (Table 1). Right-wingers are the second most common motivating ideology, accounting for 391 murders and 11 percent of the total. The definition here of right-wing terrorists includes those motivated by white supremacy, anti-abortion beliefs, involuntary celibacy (incels), and other right-wing ideologies.

Yeah thats what happens when the woke have attempted to skew reality. Reality is they have only really counted hate crimes when it benefitted the left wing narrative. 

As we can clearly see with the Kirk assassination, they also have no problem spreading lies about conservatives and what they say 

[Nationalist]

On 9/12/2025 at 6:08 PM, Michael Hardner said:

So because Kathy Griffin made a joke, the violence is due to liberals?

 

Weak.

 

Mass shootings happen across the board, politically.  If you want to blame one side, you might yourself be a culture warrior.

Oh no you dont, you little slime. You can no longer claim to oppose any "culture war".

Ya Mike...I see your intellectual felatio going on in that site...which you gave me the URL too.

I wonder if @Queenmandy85 knows what a fraud you are?

I had come to have at least some respect for you. Now I see what you really are.

You actually bend to the whims of that sick fck black dog.

You just made a huge mistake. 

 

Edited September 16, 2025 by Nationalist

[Nationalist]

On 9/12/2025 at 7:44 PM, CdnFox said:

You pointing that out was deflection. It was dishonest and you should be deeply ashamed. And frankly my recollection is that most people initially were quite upset about the attack

but if you can't tell the difference between a random person with mental health issues being let into somebody's house and then becoming violent when the police show up and somebody deliberately going out with a plan to intentionally kill another person to silence their voice then there is something very badly wrong with you Mike.

So you thought you'd insinuate my wife is a whore who accepts credit cards on your other site.

You're nothing but a fraud. 

Edited September 16, 2025 by Nationalist

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

You understand that the data on political acts of violence in the US shows right extremists being far more active don't you?

You understand That's a lie don't you?

Those figures exclude a lot of politically motivated left-wing violence and include a lot of violence where there doesn't appear to be a political motive

. As always the left provides false information

But here's something that is actual science. Here's a scientifically conducted Poll looking at which side is more likely to be violent for political reasons.

As you can see the left is three to five times more likely to be accepting of political violence

Now run away and hide like the little fembot you are

[LinkSoul60]

1 hour ago, West said:

Yeah thats what happens when the woke have attempted to skew reality. Reality is they have only really counted hate crimes when it benefitted the left wing narrative. 

As we can clearly see with the Kirk assassination, they also have no problem spreading lies about conservatives and what they say 

You can find better sources of information than JD Vance can't you?  

If you did a simple google search you'd have found the above two links and well as this one from the National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism at the University of Maryland.  Funny enough this consortium was established as a 'Centre of Excellence' by the Homeland Security Science and Technology Directorate.  They're not woke, are they?

A Comparison of Political Violence by Left-wing, Right-wing and Islamist Extremists in the United States and the World

Abstract:

Although political violence has been perpetrated on behalf of a wide range of political ideologies, it is unclear whether there are systematic differences between ideologies in the use of violence to pursue a political cause. Prior research on this topic is scarce and mostly restricted to self-reported measures or less extreme forms of political aggression. Moreover, it has generally focused on respondents in Western countries and has been limited to either comparisons of the supporters of left-wing and right-wing causes or examinations of only Islamist extremism. In this research we address these gaps by comparing the use of political violence by left-wing, right-wing, and Islamist extremists in the United States and worldwide using two unique datasets that cover real-world examples of politically motivated, violent behaviors. Across both datasets, we find that radical acts perpetrated by individuals associated with left-wing causes are less likely to be violent. In the United States, we find no difference between the level of violence perpetrated by right-wing and Islamist extremists. However, differences in violence emerge on the global level, with Islamist extremists being more likely than right-wing extremists to engage in more violent acts.

https://www.start.umd.edu/publication/comparison-political-violence-left-wing-right-wing-and-islamist-extremists-united

Edited September 16, 2025 by LinkSoul60

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, LinkSoul60 said:

You can find better sources of information than JD Vance can't you?  

If you did a simple google search you'd have found the above two links and well as this one from the National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism at the University of Maryland.  Funny enough this consortium was established as a 'Centre of Excellence' by the Homeland Security Science and Technology Directorate.  They're not woke, are they?

A Comparison of Political Violence by Left-wing, Right-wing and Islamist Extremists in the United States and the World

Abstract:

Although political violence has been perpetrated on behalf of a wide range of political ideologies, it is unclear whether there are systematic differences between ideologies in the use of violence to pursue a political cause. Prior research on this topic is scarce and mostly restricted to self-reported measures or less extreme forms of political aggression. Moreover, it has generally focused on respondents in Western countries and has been limited to either comparisons of the supporters of left-wing and right-wing causes or examinations of only Islamist extremism. In this research we address these gaps by comparing the use of political violence by left-wing, right-wing, and Islamist extremists in the United States and worldwide using two unique datasets that cover real-world examples of politically motivated, violent behaviors. Across both datasets, we find that radical acts perpetrated by individuals associated with left-wing causes are less likely to be violent. In the United States, we find no difference between the level of violence perpetrated by right-wing and Islamist extremists. However, differences in violence emerge on the global level, with Islamist extremists being more likely than right-wing extremists to engage in more violent acts.

So you swapped out violence for political reasons with people "associated" with what the authors consider a 'radical' group, even if it had nothing to do with the violence. 

For example based on that the 4 black people who tortured the disabled boy to death spouting BLM propaganda wouldn't count because they weren't actually officially part of BLM. 

And i bet they didn't include the violence or damages of the george floyd riots either right?

Bad science, and i see you still can't address what i posted. 

[Nationalist]

10 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

So you swapped out violence for political reasons with people "associated" with what the authors consider a 'radical' group, even if it had nothing to do with the violence. 

For example based on that the 4 black people who tortured the disabled boy to death spouting BLM propaganda wouldn't count because they weren't actually officially part of BLM. 

And i bet they didn't include the violence or damages of the george floyd riots either right?

Bad science, and i see you still can't address what i posted. 

That's all they have...bad science.

Well...that and zero morality.

[CdnFox]

5 hours ago, Nationalist said:

So you thought you'd insinuate my wife is a whore who accepts credit cards on your other site.

You're nothing but a fraud. 

LOL i think you tagged the wrong quote there bud     I sure never said anything about your wife on this or any other site   Were you talking to mike?

4 hours ago, Nationalist said:

That's all they have...bad science.

Well...that and zero morality.

Yeah, it's their thing. 

They juggle facts and numbers until it says something they like and then they try to hold it up as proof.  But the moment you scratch the surface you see it's just a façade 

[Nationalist]

3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

LOL i think you tagged the wrong quote there bud     I sure never said anything about your wife on this or any other site   Were you talking to mike?

 

OMG...I'm sorry Fox.

That was meant for @Michael Hardner. He's not what he presents himself as in this site.

He is a total fraud.

Edited September 16, 2025 by Nationalist

[LinkSoul60]

11 hours ago, Nationalist said:

That's all they have...bad science.

Well...that and zero morality.

lol....  Facts do get in the way of the Maga mindset don't they 

'Morality' refers to the principles that differentiate between proper or right actions and improper or wrong ones, encompassing a system of moral conduct, virtues, and vices.  Consistent with that Maga mindset the improper morals of bigotry, misogyny and homophobia are guiding principles...

[Nationalist]

5 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

lol....  Facts do get in the way of the Maga mindset don't they 

'Morality' refers to the principles that differentiate between proper or right actions and improper or wrong ones, encompassing a system of moral conduct, virtues, and vices.  Consistent with that Maga mindset the improper morals of bigotry, misogyny and homophobia are guiding principles...

Well it's comforting to know you keep @robosmith company in the "Wrong" column. At least it's not all alone.

[CdnFox]

6 hours ago, Nationalist said:

OMG...I'm sorry Fox.

That was meant for @Michael Hardner. He's not what he presents himself as in this site.

He is a total fraud.

No sweat, it happens

3 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

lol....  Facts do get in the way of the Maga mindset don't they 

'Morality' refers to the principles that differentiate between proper or right actions and improper or wrong ones, encompassing a system of moral conduct, virtues, and vices.  Consistent with that Maga mindset the improper morals of bigotry, misogyny and homophobia are guiding principles...

Apparently you don't like facts get in the way of your mindset  

Which are demonstrable and real, they're not figments of your imagination that support your story.

What are coward