blackbird Posted September 12, 2025 Report Posted September 12, 2025 (edited) This article exposes how the woke DEI ideology is taking over a medical doctor training institute in Ontario. Instead of admitting student on merit, they are planning to admit them on gender and DEI ideology. This will definitely affect the quality of the graduates. " Ontario’s health-care system is under immense strain. Emergency rooms either have hours of waiting time or are simply being closed. Wait times for surgeries and specialist appointments are growing, and accessibility to diagnostic testing is leaving patients in the dark. Thousands of families across the province still cannot find a family doctor. With all this in mind, it is no surprise that Premier Doug Ford’s government has made expanding medical school enrollment a priority. Just this week, he was in Brampton celebrating the opening of the new Toronto Metropolitan University School of Medicine, a laudable announcement to create more seats for aspiring doctors. This was unfortunately overshadowed by the school’s embrace of progressive ideology and rejection of traditional admission standards. The school claims to be the “first medical school in Canada founded and intentionally built upon the foundations of social accountability, EDI and Reconciliation ” with an equity, diversity and inclusion action plan that specifies how these values will become part of its admissions criteria. It has adopted admissions criteria that go well beyond academic achievement or aptitude for the profession . The school draws on values like “anti-oppression” and offers alternative pathways for admission: a “Black Admissions Pathway,” an “Indigenous Admissions Pathway” and an “Equity-Deserving Admissions Pathway” for those who self-identify as disadvantaged. Disadvantaged students, according to the school, include members of the LBGTQ community, people with disabilities, those who have who have faced familial or socio-cultural barriers, those who have experienced poverty or low socio-economic status, and people who identify as racialized. These streams are not just outreach programs; they come with their own dedicated selection committees and evaluation processes. The school explicitly states that the purpose of these streams is “to address the under-representation of identified equity-deserving groups in medical education,” indicating a clear intent to select according to identity. This approach is not just wrong in principle but is dangerous in practice. Medicine is not a field where ideology should trump excellence. Admissions should be based on merit and aptitude, not politics; otherwise, we risk having future physicians who are less qualified to meet patients’ needs. When medical schools start prioritizing ideological litmus tests, the entire system suffers, and patients pay the price. That same ideological lens is showing up and proving that woke ideologies that see the world through an “oppressor–oppressed” binary lens have a damaging impact on our health-care system, from medical schools to hospitals. Ontario now risks losing some of its best doctors, not because of pay or working conditions, but because of the culture taking root within the profession. A recent report by the Jewish Medical Association of Ontario found that nearly one in three Jewish physicians are considering leaving the province , mainly driven by rising antisemitism in the workplace. This paints a troubling picture of the environment forming within our hospitals and universities. Of those surveyed by JMAO, more than 80 per cent of respondents said they’ve faced antisemitism at work. The most common place was in university or academic settings, where almost three-quarters reported experiencing it, while 60 per cent of respondents reported encountering antisemitism in hospitals. These numbers should alarm us all, and they speak to the damage done by an ideology which elevates identity over merit and creates exclusion and hostility in the workplace. Jewish professionals who, until the late 1960s, faced quotas when applying to Canadian medical schools, are now being framed as oppressors and are not considered “equity-deserving” under this framework. In fact, their perceived privilege is often used to justify discriminatory attitudes and behaviour, which has led to a significant spike in antisemitism in the medical field in Canada. A health-care system that turns away qualified students for political reasons and alienates experienced doctors because of their identity is not built to serve patients. It is built to serve ideology while undermining the entire system, compromising patient care and eroding workplace integrity. A conservative government should not hesitate to oppose this trend by not funding its growth. Ford and his ministers do not need to issue platitudes. They need to act. That means pushing Ontario’s medical schools to return to academic standards and professional neutrality and confronting the rising antisemitism that is undermining morale within the system. Without fundamental change, we risk losing a generation of physicians, educators and researchers, leading to severe detrimental effects on Ontario’s medical system. Instead of pushing back against an ideology which has been proven to be problematic, the admission standards at TMU will continue to see discrimination not only being tolerated but, in some cases, perpetuated. This systemic inaction must be confronted and reversed immediately by the government. unquote For the whole article: Opinion: We want more doctors, TMU's DEI med school isn't the way Edited September 12, 2025 by blackbird Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted September 12, 2025 Report Posted September 12, 2025 (edited) The consideration of the whole person applying to med school (in addition to performance on the MCAT as well which is a difficult exam) has become a large activity in and of itself in this country. While well-intentioned, it has had some undesirable effects. Students naturally want to brush up on their volunteer activities and say the right things at the interview; claiming a desire to help underprivileged communities in rural Canada is generally a better line than wanting to make millions in Toronto with as little call as possible. However, sometimes this rather generous presentation of oneself can be believed, internalized and carried through life. Thus, years later when, say, a foreign doctor applies for a residency position in their specialty and claims they did so because they need a job and no other program would take them, ie, the unvarnished truth, offence might actually be taken. The expectation is that the crude facts will be massaged a little. Medicine is a profession requiring people of diverse personality types. There is a need for those who empathize and are scholarly but there also jobs that on occasion require immediate, drastic action. Like soldiers, pilots and successful politicians, surgeons have to be both confident and decisive. Indeed, some of the traits they must have overlap with those of sociopaths but we certainly wouldn’t want to screen them out of the med school application process. For this and many other reasons, some countries have systems that focus almost entirely on the academic merit of applicants. I suspect this would alter the composition of med school classes in several ways and increase the percentage of students of Chinese origin. A debate for another day. Edited September 12, 2025 by SpankyMcFarland Quote ‘How small we make our worlds. Gather them in, tighten them up into little castles of fear.’
herbie Posted September 12, 2025 Report Posted September 12, 2025 FYI the term DEI means that if two equal candidates apply you can't hire the white guy because he's white. Don't buy into that lesser qualified bullshit the MAGAts are feeding you, we don't need that kind of shit in Canada. And to apply to the hiring of doctors iIn Canada in 2025 is the ultimate lie. If two barely qualified people apply, they'll both get hired. Quote
August1991 Posted September 13, 2025 Report Posted September 13, 2025 12 hours ago, blackbird said: This article exposes how the woke DEI ideology is taking over a medical doctor training institute in Ontario. Instead of admitting student on merit, they are planning to admit them on gender and DEI ideology. This will definitely affect the quality of the graduates. " Ontario’s health-care system is under immense strain. Emergency rooms either have hours of waiting time or are simply being closed. Wait times for surgeries and specialist appointments are growing, and accessibility to diagnostic testing is leaving patients in the dark. Thousands of families across the province still cannot find a family doctor. .... DEI ideology has nothing to do with it. ==== Ontario? Canada's entire health-care system has problems. It sorta works if you know someone in the system. It sorta works if you are poor, and have time to wait. Our health system is Soviet. ---- Worse - our health system wastes the talents of good doctors/nurses doing nonsense, filling out forms. Quote
August1991 Posted September 13, 2025 Report Posted September 13, 2025 In Quebec, we have increasingly a parallel system - like in Europe. Private/public. It works. Quote
I am Groot Posted September 13, 2025 Report Posted September 13, 2025 (edited) 19 hours ago, herbie said: FYI the term DEI means that if two equal candidates apply you can't hire the white guy because he's white. Don't buy into that lesser qualified bullshit the MAGAts are feeding you, we don't need that kind of shit in Canada. We absolutely DO do that kind of shit in Canada. I've seen it done in the public service. The bonuses executives get depend on meeting quotas for various identity groups, so they put pressure on managers, and managers do what's needed. I have heard from someone at the RCMP that they cannot start training for a new troop (usually about 30-35 people) until they have the required percentage of DEI-designated candidates. We do the same in lower levels like municipal policing, where any number of police from certain ethnic backgrounds have been hired despite undesirable findings in their past and then gotten into trouble. The write-up on TMU, which you clearly did not read, explains how they do this at that hospital. Denying it is just bullshit. Edited September 13, 2025 by I am Groot 1 Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
blackbird Posted September 13, 2025 Author Report Posted September 13, 2025 20 hours ago, herbie said: FYI the term DEI means that if two equal candidates apply you can't hire the white guy because he's white. Don't buy into that lesser qualified bullshit the MAGAts are feeding you, we don't need that kind of shit in Canada. And to apply to the hiring of doctors iIn Canada in 2025 is the ultimate lie. If two barely qualified people apply, they'll both get hired. I don't think so herbie. That's not how it works. First of all you said they both get hired. That doesn't make sense. If they are trying to fill one position, they only choose one applicant. Nobody is saying they both get hired. DEi means if one candidate is from the designated minority group such as colour, FN, third word immigrant, or LGBTQ+, he or she gets preference over someone with higher merit. That's what it is all about. " With all this in mind, it is no surprise that Premier Doug Ford’s government has made expanding medical school enrollment a priority. Just this week, he was in Brampton celebrating the opening of the new Toronto Metropolitan University School of Medicine, a laudable announcement to create more seats for aspiring doctors. This was unfortunately overshadowed by the school’s embrace of progressive ideology and rejection of traditional admission standards. The school claims to be the “first medical school in Canada founded and intentionally built upon the foundations of social accountability, EDI and Reconciliation ” with an equity, diversity and inclusion action plan that specifies how these values will become part of its admissions criteria." Quote
blackbird Posted September 13, 2025 Author Report Posted September 13, 2025 (edited) 9 hours ago, August1991 said: DEI ideology has nothing to do with it. I agree the entire health care system has problems. It sounds like you didn't bother reading the entire post. But what this medical school is planning will make the problems much worse. They clearly announced they will follow DEI ideology which is how they will admit students which means preference given to certain DEI people. Edited September 13, 2025 by blackbird Quote
herbie Posted September 13, 2025 Report Posted September 13, 2025 Well the grumpy old white guys that insist DEI is about hiring the less qualified say so. So they must be pleased. Now no one has to reflect the community at all, WalMart and 7-11 don't have to hire any white kids ever again. Quote
taxme Posted September 13, 2025 Report Posted September 13, 2025 On 9/12/2025 at 9:07 AM, blackbird said: This article exposes how the woke DEI ideology is taking over a medical doctor training institute in Ontario. Instead of admitting student on merit, they are planning to admit them on gender and DEI ideology. This will definitely affect the quality of the graduates. " Ontario’s health-care system is under immense strain. Emergency rooms either have hours of waiting time or are simply being closed. Wait times for surgeries and specialist appointments are growing, and accessibility to diagnostic testing is leaving patients in the dark. Thousands of families across the province still cannot find a family doctor. With all this in mind, it is no surprise that Premier Doug Ford’s government has made expanding medical school enrollment a priority. Just this week, he was in Brampton celebrating the opening of the new Toronto Metropolitan University School of Medicine, a laudable announcement to create more seats for aspiring doctors. This was unfortunately overshadowed by the school’s embrace of progressive ideology and rejection of traditional admission standards. The school claims to be the “first medical school in Canada founded and intentionally built upon the foundations of social accountability, EDI and Reconciliation ” with an equity, diversity and inclusion action plan that specifies how these values will become part of its admissions criteria. It has adopted admissions criteria that go well beyond academic achievement or aptitude for the profession . The school draws on values like “anti-oppression” and offers alternative pathways for admission: a “Black Admissions Pathway,” an “Indigenous Admissions Pathway” and an “Equity-Deserving Admissions Pathway” for those who self-identify as disadvantaged. Disadvantaged students, according to the school, include members of the LBGTQ community, people with disabilities, those who have who have faced familial or socio-cultural barriers, those who have experienced poverty or low socio-economic status, and people who identify as racialized. These streams are not just outreach programs; they come with their own dedicated selection committees and evaluation processes. The school explicitly states that the purpose of these streams is “to address the under-representation of identified equity-deserving groups in medical education,” indicating a clear intent to select according to identity. This approach is not just wrong in principle but is dangerous in practice. Medicine is not a field where ideology should trump excellence. Admissions should be based on merit and aptitude, not politics; otherwise, we risk having future physicians who are less qualified to meet patients’ needs. When medical schools start prioritizing ideological litmus tests, the entire system suffers, and patients pay the price. That same ideological lens is showing up and proving that woke ideologies that see the world through an “oppressor–oppressed” binary lens have a damaging impact on our health-care system, from medical schools to hospitals. Ontario now risks losing some of its best doctors, not because of pay or working conditions, but because of the culture taking root within the profession. A recent report by the Jewish Medical Association of Ontario found that nearly one in three Jewish physicians are considering leaving the province , mainly driven by rising antisemitism in the workplace. This paints a troubling picture of the environment forming within our hospitals and universities. Of those surveyed by JMAO, more than 80 per cent of respondents said they’ve faced antisemitism at work. The most common place was in university or academic settings, where almost three-quarters reported experiencing it, while 60 per cent of respondents reported encountering antisemitism in hospitals. These numbers should alarm us all, and they speak to the damage done by an ideology which elevates identity over merit and creates exclusion and hostility in the workplace. Jewish professionals who, until the late 1960s, faced quotas when applying to Canadian medical schools, are now being framed as oppressors and are not considered “equity-deserving” under this framework. In fact, their perceived privilege is often used to justify discriminatory attitudes and behaviour, which has led to a significant spike in antisemitism in the medical field in Canada. A health-care system that turns away qualified students for political reasons and alienates experienced doctors because of their identity is not built to serve patients. It is built to serve ideology while undermining the entire system, compromising patient care and eroding workplace integrity. A conservative government should not hesitate to oppose this trend by not funding its growth. Ford and his ministers do not need to issue platitudes. They need to act. That means pushing Ontario’s medical schools to return to academic standards and professional neutrality and confronting the rising antisemitism that is undermining morale within the system. Without fundamental change, we risk losing a generation of physicians, educators and researchers, leading to severe detrimental effects on Ontario’s medical system. Instead of pushing back against an ideology which has been proven to be problematic, the admission standards at TMU will continue to see discrimination not only being tolerated but, in some cases, perpetuated. This systemic inaction must be confronted and reversed immediately by the government. unquote For the whole article: Opinion: We want more doctors, TMU's DEI med school isn't the way Massive 3rd world immigration is the problem. Every year Canada brings in hundreds of thousands of unneeded and unwanted immigrants that when they are in need of medical help, they are taken care of at Canadian taxpayer's expense. Many of our problems are due to way too many immigrants being allowed into Canada. Why cannot anyone see that massive immigration is the problem and not the solution. A country cannot think that bringing in millions of new immigrants without room for them is bloody well crazy. But than again, whoever said that our politicians were smart. They only do things that will help themselves at the trough or gain more power. Politicians ARE the problem. 👎 1 Quote
blackbird Posted September 13, 2025 Author Report Posted September 13, 2025 6 hours ago, blackbird said: EDI I think they meant DEI. Quote
Gaétan Posted September 15, 2025 Report Posted September 15, 2025 Doctors are trained to make the population sick in order to enrich pharmaceutical companies—this has been proven by studies, do your research if you don't believe it. For example, if you have osteoarthritis in your knee, the doctor will prescribe painkillers that destroy cartilage and cause holes in your stomach lining. Frontiers | Pharmacogenomics of NSAID-Induced Upper Gastrointestinal Toxicity Comprehensive Analysis of Gastrointestinal Injury Induced by Nonsteroidal Anti-Inflammatory Drugs Using Data from FDA Adverse Event Reporting System Database The Acceleration of Articular Cartilage Degeneration in Osteoarthritis by Nonsteroidal Anti-inflammatory Drugs - Journal of Prolotherapy Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted September 15, 2025 Report Posted September 15, 2025 15 minutes ago, Gaétan said: Doctors are trained to make the population sick in order to enrich pharmaceutical companies—this has been proven by studies, do your research if you don't believe it. For example, if you have osteoarthritis in your knee, the doctor will prescribe painkillers that destroy cartilage and cause holes in your stomach lining. Frontiers | Pharmacogenomics of NSAID-Induced Upper Gastrointestinal Toxicity Comprehensive Analysis of Gastrointestinal Injury Induced by Nonsteroidal Anti-Inflammatory Drugs Using Data from FDA Adverse Event Reporting System Database The Acceleration of Articular Cartilage Degeneration in Osteoarthritis by Nonsteroidal Anti-inflammatory Drugs - Journal of Prolotherapy A doctor telling an osteoarthritis patient to take an NSAID (Aspirin, Ibuprofen, Naproxen) for pain and then saying they're trained to make people sick is a pretty big leap....don't you think. Quote
Gaétan Posted September 15, 2025 Report Posted September 15, 2025 14 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: A doctor telling an osteoarthritis patient to take an NSAID (Aspirin, Ibuprofen, Naproxen) for pain and then saying they're trained to make people sick is a pretty big leap....don't you think. This is an exemple but anyway almost all the medications they prescribe make people sick, this is written on the box of the pills and the doctor is supposed to tell you that. Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted September 15, 2025 Report Posted September 15, 2025 8 minutes ago, Gaétan said: This is an exemple but anyway almost all the medications they prescribe make people sick, this is written on the box of the pills and the doctor is supposed to tell you that. You'd think that most doctors would tell patients to read the instructions, but you'd also think most patients would read the instructions anyway. Quote
Gaétan Posted September 15, 2025 Report Posted September 15, 2025 12 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: You'd think that most doctors would tell patients to read the instructions, but you'd also think most patients would read the instructions anyway. The doctor must look the patient in the eye and say, with unwavering clarity, that the very medicine he is prescribing will not heal—but harm. That it will poison the body, unravel its strength, and in time, bring death. The truth must be spoken aloud, not hidden behind silence or softened by euphemism. Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted September 15, 2025 Report Posted September 15, 2025 NSAIDs are not a prescription medicine. Common sense says read the instructions of any medicine but yes, if the doctor does prescribe you a medicine they should explain it to you. Back to your comment.... I don't think they're trying to intentionally make you sick. Quote
Gaétan Posted September 15, 2025 Report Posted September 15, 2025 9 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: I don't think they're trying to intentionally make you sick. No, because they’ve been brainwashed by a corrupt system that keeps them blind and divided Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted September 15, 2025 Report Posted September 15, 2025 24 minutes ago, Gaétan said: No, because they’ve been brainwashed by a corrupt system that keeps them blind and divided How long has this been going on? I wasn't aware of any corrupt system.... what are doctors blind to and divided on? Quote
Gaétan Posted September 15, 2025 Report Posted September 15, 2025 1 minute ago, LinkSoul60 said: How long has this been going on? I wasn't aware of any corrupt system.... what are doctors blind to and divided on? They were taught they do something good to patient but it is not true and the opposite. If they wouldn't be brainwashed and blind there would see that they do something wrong Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted September 15, 2025 Report Posted September 15, 2025 On 9/12/2025 at 1:49 PM, herbie said: FYI the term DEI means that if two equal candidates apply you can't hire the white guy because he's white. Don't buy into that lesser qualified bullshit the MAGAts are feeding you, we don't need that kind of shit in Canada. LOL. Even if this were true, which it's not, it's still horribly racist. Nobody should ever be admitted to or rejected from a school because of their race. When I go to the doctor I couldn't care less that their skin colour is, which is the whole point. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
LinkSoul60 Posted September 15, 2025 Report Posted September 15, 2025 21 minutes ago, Gaétan said: They were taught they do something good to patient but it is not true and the opposite. If they wouldn't be brainwashed and blind there would see that they do something wrong Well, doctors of medicine aren't the brightest group of people out there so it's no wonder they haven't caught on yet. Quote
August1991 Posted September 15, 2025 Report Posted September 15, 2025 On 9/13/2025 at 10:44 AM, blackbird said: I agree the entire health care system has problems. It sounds like you didn't bother reading the entire post. But what this medical school is planning will make the problems much worse. They clearly announced they will follow DEI ideology which is how they will admit students which means preference given to certain DEI people. True, I skipped through your long post. DEI is one thing. The major problems within Canada's so-called single payer health system are something else. Quote
Gaétan Posted September 15, 2025 Report Posted September 15, 2025 15 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said: Well, doctors of medicine aren't the brightest group of people out there so it's no wonder they haven't caught on yet. It’s because of society’s madness—some people believed the sun was a god and thought they had to offer sacrifices to it. Brainwashing makes you blind. Mr Kennedy in US does the right things. Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted September 15, 2025 Report Posted September 15, 2025 1 minute ago, Gaétan said: It’s because of society’s madness—some people believed the sun was a god and thought they had to offer sacrifices to it. Brainwashing makes you blind. Mr Kennedy in US does the right things. Okay, to cut to the chase.... My comment of doctors of medicine not being the brightest group was clearly sarcasm. You don't get that? Interesting though that you bring up the unqualified ex-heroin addict RFKjr is doing things right.... Now that is truly funny for a Canadian, truly concerning for an American. You may want to read what an ex-surgeon general of the US said today; Former Trump surgeon general says RFK Jr. must go Sep. 15, 2025 11:07 AM ETModerna, Inc. (MRNA) Stock, SNY Stock, PFE Stock, MRK Stock, NVAX Stock, BNTX StockBy: Jonathan Block, SA News Editor 5 Share Save Play(3min) Comments (132) Jerome Adams, who served as U.S. surgeon general during the first Trump administration, said that Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s time as HHS secretary "has been a failure" and he should leave the agency. Speaking in an interview with STAT News, Adams cited RFK Jr.'s delayed response to the August shooting at the CDC's Atlanta campus, the loss of confidence towards him from HHS and related agency employees, and repeated lying. "Well, he lied to Congress," Adams told the outlet. "It's actually very clear now — if you take the statements that he made during his confirmation hearing, and the things that he's done since then, and then his explanations for them in his most recent hearing — there’s only one of two conclusions you could come to. He’s either a bald-faced liar, or he's incredibly incompetent and doesn't understand what he's talking about." He added that the secretary is continuing to make false or misleading statements about autism and thimerosal, a preservative used in some vaccines, that will "cause fear that is going to cause real harm to the public." Adams added that the public's trust in the federal government's health agencies has plummeted, saying, "objectively, we can prove that trust in the CDC, the FDA, HHS have plummeted to an all-time low during his tenure and directly because of him and the misinformation he’s sown. AAP, ACOG, AAFP, these major physicians groups are literally telling their patients, 'you cannot trust the CDC anymore because of RFK.'" After the Aug. 8 shooting at CDC headquarters in Atlanta that left a police officer dead, RFK Jr. took "18 hours to make a tepid statement, which was really capitulating to his base, and in the meantime, he posted fishing pictures," according to Adams. "They literally do not feel safe, physically safe, emotionally safe, working for him, and I don’t know how you’re going to run one of the largest agencies on the planet when the people under you have lost complete and total trust in you." Adams also criticized FDA Commissioner Marty Makary. "Statements like, '100% of people can get the vaccine if they choose it.' Both he and [Makary] said that. They're either lying, or they're incredibly incompetent to the point that they don't understand all the ways in which they have set up new and unique barriers for people being able to access vaccines, that contradict their pledge that they made." Quote
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