Conservatives Unanimous in Condemning Antisemitism in Canada

[Venandi]

10 hours ago, eyeball said:

The reason is that Palestine is resisting being oppressed and slaughtered, they have that right. Israel started it.

I could fill the page with quotes just like the one above but in reality they're all equally irrelevant. Interesting from a clinical and historical perspective yes, but of little value otherwise.

In the absence of a time machine, these historical perspectives aren't worth a handful of pig snot. You're left with the here and now, Israel isn't going anywhere and absolutely nothing in the here and now justifies (or condones) physically attacking an identifiable group who are  half a world removed from events they are being assaulted over... they had no hand in creating the situation and no influence over solutions, outcomes or reconciliations.

I find the inability to condemn physical attacks on people due solely to their ethnicity curiously at odds with (what I thought to be) progressive values.... and not by a little either, it's staggering.

In some cases the only thing the attacker and victim have in common is that neither of them have ever set foot in the region. Rationalizing those attacks by virtue of past historical wrongs is to invite further violence against other innocent people and justify it as "understandable" due to the actions of their great grandfather's generation.

I'd invite you consider that in the context of violence in other parts of the world. If your thinking and the caveats you apply to this situation were applied to other second generation ethnic Canadians by "white maple leaf MAGATs" you'd be screaming loudly. 

Failing to unreservedly condemn the stabbing of a Canadian woman in a Canadian grocery store in retaliation for events half a world away puts YOU in a pretty curious file folder. This violence against innocent people could easily be applied in equal measure to other innocent Canadians with other ethnicities and religions across the board.

Were that to happen, I suspect you'd identify as unequivocally opposed to it and would immediately vilify anyone who would seek to justify those attacks with historical anecdotes from three generations ago. .. which is exactly what you appear to be doing right now.

 

 

Edited September 9, 2025 by Venandi

[I am Groot]

9 hours ago, eyeball said:

You talk like someone who imagines the world is out to get them most of the time.

No, I talk like someone aware of life's realities. There are a lot of absolutely shitty people out there who will steal anything they can and beat you to a pulp for fun and giggles. Did those six black girls need to kill that Chinese man to steal what little he had? No. They were feral savages exulting in their group's ability to harm another. For fun. Like these people.

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Edited September 9, 2025 by I am Groot

[I am Groot]

10 hours ago, eyeball said:

Yes, Netanyahu did say this was going global.

And these civilized countries have always harboured a sizable number of real anti-Semites. It's where most Jewish refugees to Palestine came from.

No. Most came from surrounding Muslim countries when they were forced/chased out. The majority of Jews in Israel are them and their descendants. 

10 hours ago, eyeball said:

But like I said before these sorts of attackers are comparable to fire bugs that take advantage of a heat wave.

Arab hatred of Jews is eternal because their books have many passages that tell them to hate and kill Jews.

10 hours ago, eyeball said:

You don't have to try and sell me on the idea there's been lots of antisemitism in Canada. Google up MS St Louis and SCC Justice Ivan Rand yourself.

We aren't the past, as much as Liberals like to pretend otherwise. We've grown beyond that. The Muslim world has not.

10 hours ago, eyeball said:

Were not without the same in Canada but it's nowhere, I repeat, near skyrocketing.

Twenty years ago I never read anything or heard anything about how Jews on campuses here were harassed, threatened and intimidated. Now I read it all the time. Now I read of Jewish union members suing their own union for demonstrating antisemitism towards them, Jewish students suing their universities, Jewish parents suing schools and schoolboards, groups of haters taking their demonstrations out to Jewish areas, picketing Jewish hospitals, Jewish businesses, vandalizing Jewish stores. This has all come from the Left's adoption of the Islamist agenda. The Left and Islam, joined hand in hand to destroy Western culture, each thinking they will take over and bring about nirvana. Except, of course, nirvana for the Muslims is an Islamic state where all those Leftists who they regard as perverts are thrown off tall buildings.

[eyeball]

5 hours ago, Venandi said:

In the absence of a time machine, these historical perspectives aren't worth a handful of pig snot.

This from the side that is forever reaching back to the Bronze Age to make their arguments.

There's no reason to go back more than living memory really. The here and now as you say.

5 hours ago, Venandi said:

Failing to unreservedly condemn the stabbing of a Canadian woman in a Canadian grocery store in retaliation for events half a world away puts YOU in a pretty curious file folder.

Get in line....I've condemned the war crimes committed on Oct 7 to ears plugged with fingers by people sing la la la.

5 hours ago, Venandi said:

This violence against innocent people could easily be applied in equal measure to other innocent Canadians with other ethnicities and religions across the board.

Were that to happen, I suspect you'd identify as unequivocally opposed to it and would immediately vilify anyone who would seek to justify those attacks with historical anecdotes from three generations ago. .. which is exactly what you appear to be doing right now.

Your whattaboutisms notwithstanding...three generations is within living memory.

[Venandi]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

This from the side that is forever reaching back to the Bronze Age to make their arguments.

The letter under discussion here has little to do with "sides" IMO, if ever there was a simple bipartisan statement everyone could support, I'd have thought the idea of condemning the stabbing of a Jewish woman in a grocery store (or violence against any identifiable group) might have topped the list. I'm not going to fly the pride flag at the end of my driveway but I can condemn violence against the letter people without the slightest hesitation.

As to the bigger picture, as soon as you acknowledge that Israel isn't going anywhere and that nothing short of the total annihilation of Israel will satisfy Hamas, pig snot suddenly becomes more valuable than the  multiple (and opposing) historical perspectives being juggled here.

You can use it as a moisturizer... 

No shortage of people came here as refugees after having lost everything in their home country... other than starting over again or developing a time machine, I don't know what the solution is. If Hamas had political objectives as opposed to religious ones perhaps some of it could be addressed over time, that's simply not the case though and never will be with them... thus pig snot stands as more valuable.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited September 9, 2025 by Venandi

[eyeball]

21 hours ago, Venandi said:

The letter under discussion here has little to do with "sides" IMO, if ever there was a simple bipartisan statement everyone could support, I'd have thought the idea of condemning the stabbing of a Jewish woman in a grocery store (or violence against any identifiable group) might have topped the list.

I would've thought condemnation would be automatic and taken as a given.

Same as Israel's treatment of Palestine and Gazans and for anyone who oppress people.

It's all bad.

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

I would've thought condemnation would be automatic and taken as a given.

 

You literally just spent ages explaining why you didn't think condemnation would be automatic and taken as a given.

And in fact it wasn't by the liberals or you

And I agree that it should have been. The fact that it wasn't just the problem that we're discussing

[eyeball]

10 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

You literally just spent ages explaining why you didn't think condemnation would be automatic and taken as a given.

No I didn't. You're literally full of shit.

[CdnFox]

Just now, eyeball said:

No I didn't. You're literally full of shit.

Of course you did. You went on and on about how nobody should condemn anti-semitism until the government first produces a document saying that hating Israeli governments or Israel the country isn't antisemitism. If they don't do that then nobody could possibly condemn anti-semitism. That is literally what you said at the beginning of this thread, everybody can look at it  

This is your biggest problem, you say something ignorant and then when you get called on it You t;ry and pretend you never but a lot of the time it's still in the same thread you said it  You started in the very first reply on page 1  

You also said that the majority of 'hate crimes' against jews are grossly exaggerated.  And that just wearing a headdress is antisemetic in canada. 

That's your response to a letter in response to a jewish woman being brutally stabbed. 

LOL it's not just that you're  a liar, it's that you're such a BAD liar  

You're a jew hater, so are the liberals, and you get mad when people point out your own jew hating statements. 

 

[eyeball]

11 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

That is literally what you said...

Literally means word for word. What you're attempting to do is called paraphrasing, you suck at that too. 

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

Literally means word for word.

No, it doesn't.  It would if i said "you literally said this' but that's now what i said. I said you literally spent time explaining something.   

LOLOL but i love that you're admitting i was right and that you're trying to win on a technicality    You still blew it tho. 

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

I said you literally spent time explaining something.

I wasn't explaining what you pulled out of your ass, that's on you.

[Gaétan]

On 9/7/2025 at 11:24 PM, CdnFox said:

NO they didn't. THey spent all their time denouncing jews.  That's what they did.   And the problem is nobody WANTED to speak up for the jews. So many people were prepared to hate the jews, and there weren't enough strong people to stand up to the nazis and their jew hatred. 

THat would make YOU the nazi sparky.  And this time, i'm speaking up.  Fcuk you AND your nazi friends. 

Your god said to love your neighbour as yourself, if you condemn the jews' genocide as i do you  must do the same with the palestinians' genocide. There are thousands of  tons of food at the border of Gaza and nothing to eat inside.

[Gaétan]

On 9/8/2025 at 7:27 PM, I am Groot said:

Riiight. I'm pretty sure you sought out those videos of Jewish girls being raped and tortured to death on Oct 7 to wank off to them. 

Do you have evidence? Your army does that all the time but they killed the reporters taking the pictures

[I am Groot]

1 minute ago, Gaétan said:

Do you have evidence? Your army does that all the time but they killed the reporters taking the pictures

I'm not a Jew, you Nazi, but I respect them as good, decent, law-abiding citizens who work and rarely spend their lives on welfare.

[PIK]

1930s all over again. Scary.

[Venandi]

12 hours ago, eyeball said:

I would've thought condemnation would be automatic and taken as a given.

Me too.

We could have saved seven pages if you said that earlier.

[eyeball]

5 minutes ago, Venandi said:

Me too.

We could have saved seven pages if you said that earlier.

Better late than never I guess.

You'll probably forget by morning though so...

 

[CdnFox]

7 hours ago, eyeball said:

I wasn't explaining what you pulled out of your ass, that's on you.

LOL and once again when you start losing you immediately start having weird fantasies about my ass  

Well i appreciate your admission of defeat  

6 hours ago, Gaétan said:

Your god 

I don't have a god skippy.  

With every post you make yourself look just a little more stupid. 

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

Better late than never I guess.

You'll probably forget by morning though so...

 

Nope. You've already been clear about your jew hatred.  Too late to undo that. 

Now you just look like you can't stand up for your convictions. SO you're a jew hater AND a spineless twat.  Well everyone should have a job AND a hobby   

[Venandi]

6 hours ago, eyeball said:

Better late than never I guess.

You'll probably forget by morning though so...

 

What I'm unlikely to forget is that it took seven full pages to establish that stabbing Jewish women in grocery stores and beating Jewish fathers in front of their children was an act worthy of condemnation.

It's not a matter of being better late than never, it's a matter of NOT having a list of caveats and inclusions for Canadian Jews that you would never apply to violence against other identifiable groups. 

I'll hold my applause until I see a trend...

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Edited September 11, 2025 by Venandi

[eyeball]

3 hours ago, Venandi said:

What I'm unlikely to forget is that it took seven full pages to establish that stabbing Jewish women in grocery stores and beating Jewish fathers in front of their children was an act worthy of condemnation.

Sure but they're not indicators of skyrocketing hatred around the world.

[Venandi]

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

Sure but they're not indicators of skyrocketing hatred around the world.

 

Another bogus caveat intended to justify and deflect the lack of general condemnation IMO.

What does "skyrocketing" even mean in this context? I simply don't understand your demands for additional inclusions, caveats, and reasons to mitigate the pure evil of what's happened here. When it comes to attacks against innocent people based solely on their ethnicity I (and most conservatives BTW) would condemn it without needing 7 pages. 

So:

Did incidents of antisemitic physical attacks (not rhetoric) increase after the events of Oct 7th or not? And more to the point, can you point to any other identifiable group who was vilified and attacked in 3rd party countries after having suffered similar ethnically targeted assaults (and I'm being overly kind calling it that) in their home country?

If you're going to suggest that these attacks only started after Israel began the military action against the perpetrators you would also have to explain how any of it could be considered the fault of Canadian born Jews in Canada or immigrants to Canada from half a world away.

 

 

 

 

Edited September 11, 2025 by Venandi

[eyeball]

9 hours ago, Venandi said:

I simply don't understand your demands for additional inclusions, caveats, and reasons to mitigate the pure evil of what's happened here.

I already explained why, signing the letter means you agree with the statement included in the letter that Jew-hatred is skyrocketing around the globe.

It's not. Protests against Israel are what's skyrocketing around the world.

This letter is trying to reinforce the  idea that anyone who disses Israel's government is a Jew-hater. Even Jews that do this are called Jew-haters. Forget all the caveats just take that out and I'll happily sign it.

Would any of you people sign a letter that acknowledges that Palestinians have any legitimate grievances...at all?

In a pigs eye.

 

[Venandi]

1 minute ago, eyeball said:

Would any of you people sign a letter that acknowledges that Palestinians have any legitimate grievances...at all?

Of course they have legitimate grievances... I've said that all along. But you don't go door to door in genocide mode killing and raping every person you come upon to address them.

Take your "you people" reference and stick it up your a$$. Were done fool.