blackbird Posted August 31, 2025 Report Posted August 31, 2025 (edited) It is a kind of contradiction that PM Mark Carney has a history of being a devout Catholic, yet here he is leading a party which is ideologically contrary to many values held dear by Catholics. He was and still may be on some kind of Vatican committee. I should mention I disagree with the Liberal Party on much of their ideology as I believe it is contrary to Biblical teaching. It is a contradiction for someone who calls himself a Christian to be a part of such a party. This Catholic Register article describes this is some detail: " A Catholic’s caution about Mark Carney Questions raised about Liberal leader and his party’s principles Some Canadian Catholics are eager to have a prime minister who shares their faith yet offers a contrast to Justin Trudeau. Mark Carney appears to fit the bill. In 2015, while serving as Governor of the Bank of England, Carney was named Britain’s “most influential Catholic” by The Tablet. My co-religionists would be wise, however, to look beyond flattering headlines and critically examine the political machinery Carney represents. Carney is no moderate. Nor is he a reformer. He is a well-connected globalist with deep ties to institutions such as the World Economic Forum, the United Nations, Bank for International Settlements, and the Financial Stability Board. These organizations place little value on national sovereignty, individual liberty, or democratic accountability. His rise is not rooted in public trust or grassroots support. It’s the product of backroom deals, media adoration, and elite coordination. The need for “Catholic Carney caution” goes well beyond the veteran national banker’s personal strengths and weaknesses. It is rooted in the very party he has chosen to lead. The federal Liberal Party has long been Canada’s most aggressive force opposing Catholic social teaching. It pushes policies that are openly hostile to the Church’s moral framework. This is the party that: Labels opposition to abortion as “misogyny” and being “anti-women” Proposes revoking the charitable status of “anti-abortion organizations” and seeks to amend the Income Tax Act to eliminate “the advancement of religion” as a charitable purpose Aggressively promotes Medical Assistance in Dying (MAiD), turning euthanasia into a default “solution” for those suffering from poverty, mental illness, or disability Advances radical gender ideology, pressuring institutions – including Catholic schools –to adopt policies that contradict basic Catholic anthropology, including the sterilization and chemical castration of vulnerable children The concerns don’t end there. The party Carney leads also: Demonizes political dissidents Demonizes those who stand for medical freedom and against coercive vaccine mandates Freezes the bank accounts of peaceful protestors Shows sympathy toward Communist China Promotes censorship and restricts free speech through legislation such as Bill C-16 and Bill C-4 This is not a party that tolerates dissenting views rooted in Catholic moral teaching, let alone advocates for them. Carney’s Liberal party alignment raises serious questions about the principles that will shape his leadership. Concern extends beyond personal religious consistency. Canadians, Catholic or otherwise, must consider the broader consequences of a government led by Mark Carney: Continuation of the Trudeau era’s economic failures: Reckless spending, heavy taxation, and inflationary policies disguised with buzzwords like “green transformation” Opposition to financial decentralization: As a lifelong central banker, Carney is a vocal critic of Bitcoin and other decentralized cryptocurrencies, which challenge centralized monetary control. While the world increasingly embraces financial independence through digital currencies, Carney is committed to preserving central bank dominance by ensuring Canadians remain tied to inflationary fiat currency Expansion of financial surveillance Preference for global elites over Canadian citizens: Through his involvement with the World Economic Forum and similar global institutions, Carney shows his priorities lie with transnational technocrats – not ordinary Canadians An undemocratic path to power: Carney’s political rise is not a reflection of popular support. It’s the result of elite orchestration. Less than 0.5% of Canadians had any say in his leadership Mass Immigration: Mark Carney recently appointed Mark Wiseman chair of the Century Initiative, an organization advocating for a Canadian population of 100 million by the end of the century. Wiseman has said publicly Canada should eliminate all immigration screening and adopt an open-door policy Carney is not a neutral technocrat. He represents the calculated continuation of a political order built on control and centralization of power. He is Trudeau 2.0. Whether religious or not, all Canadians should recognize he does not represent renewal but the culmination of everything that has gone wrong in Canadian leadership. This is undoubtedly a time for vigilance. A leadership of Trudeau 2.0 offers no path to renewal. It will only intensify Canada’s deepening crisis. As the nation faces escalating challenges, including looming Trump-era tariffs, the real threat does not come from the United States per se, but from the transnational institutions Carney represents. In the upcoming election, Canadians must restore national direction and democratic accountability. Despite his Catholic faith, that requires passing over Mark Carney for prime minister. unquote A Catholic’s caution about Mark Carney | The Catholic Register There are many serious concerns in this report that stand out. I would commend the Catholic Register for bringing these concerns to light. A major concern is his disdain for personal freedom. The authoritarianism of the Liberal party fits well with PM Carney. He is a globalist as well and it appears a believer in mass immigration. There are many other beliefs he holds that we need to examine and be prepared for where this is taking Canada. Unfortunately very few Canadians had any say in choosing him as PM; yet there he is. Is that really how a democracy should work? Since he is the PM, I believe this is a topic well worthy of consideration. Edited August 31, 2025 by blackbird 1 Quote
herbie Posted September 1, 2025 Report Posted September 1, 2025 Half those concerns aren't concerns of the majority of Catholics ot of any religion either. Others are fundamentalist stupidity like the inability do distinguish MAID and euthanasia. And I'm not gonna mention the other there's 100s of pages of MEN'S opinions clogging this site already. Hell when I was growing up beating off, wearing a rubber, taking the pill and having 'pre-marital' sex were condemned by the Church and every Catholic I knew disregarded that, just like they'll knee and pray beside a gay person today. The Institution of the Church is still an ancient monolith. Quote
eyeball Posted September 1, 2025 Report Posted September 1, 2025 4 hours ago, blackbird said: He was and still may be on some kind of Vatican committee. Probably a man of wealth and taste...and been around for a long time whoo-hoo...whoo-hoo...whoo-hoo...whoo-hoo... Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
herbie Posted September 1, 2025 Report Posted September 1, 2025 Gee, and I went out of my way to describe it as an ancient monolith trying to be factual without being too offensive.... half the family are RCs so it's a habit. I'm more like you around the other half. Quote
WestCanMan Posted September 1, 2025 Report Posted September 1, 2025 18 hours ago, herbie said: Others are fundamentalist stupidity like the inability do distinguish MAID and euthanasia. Enlighten us, herbie berbie. Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
eyeball Posted September 2, 2025 Report Posted September 2, 2025 5 hours ago, herbie said: I'm more like you around the other half. I thought I was being subtle. I wonder if he gets it? Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
herbie Posted September 2, 2025 Report Posted September 2, 2025 5 hours ago, WestCanMan said: Enlighten us, herbie berbie. Happy to be among those who can enlighten people. It's far more satisfying than dragging them down into your own personal shithole. Quote
Shady Posted September 2, 2025 Report Posted September 2, 2025 21 minutes ago, herbie said: Happy to be among those who can enlighten people. It's far more satisfying than dragging them down into your own personal shithole. Are you unaware of the terrible issues related to MAID that caused parts of it to be out on pause for several years? Quote
WestCanMan Posted September 2, 2025 Report Posted September 2, 2025 2 hours ago, herbie said: Happy to be among those who can enlighten people. It's far more satisfying than dragging them down into your own personal shithole. So go ahead and differentiate between MAID and euthanasia then, herbie berbie. Euthanasia Euthanasia is the practice of intentionally ending life to eliminate pain and suffering. Different countries have different euthanasia laws. The British House of Lords select committee on medical ethics defines euthanasia as "a deliberate intervention undertaken with the express intention of ending a life to relieve intractable suffering". In the Netherlands and Belgium, euthanasia is understood as "termination of life by a doctor at the request of a patient". The Dutch law, however, does not use the term 'euthanasia' but includes the concept under the broader definition of "assisted suicide and termination of life on request". Euthanasia is the practice of intentionally ending a person's life to relieve suffering, often in cases of terminal illness or severe pain. It can be voluntary, with the person's consent, or non-voluntary, when the person is unable to consent. Tell us the difference between euthanasia and MAID, herbie berbie. Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
Venandi Posted September 2, 2025 Report Posted September 2, 2025 5 hours ago, herbie said: Happy to be among those who can enlighten people. It's far more satisfying than dragging them down into your own personal shithole. Must have missed the POOF sound when that happened. Anyone reviewing your posting history would expect the low frequency vibrations to be felt on the east coast. Quote
herbie Posted September 2, 2025 Report Posted September 2, 2025 Because some of you do seem totally unaware of dick shit I will tell you the ONE difference between MAID and euthanasia that matters. MAID: YOU choose it EUTHANASIA: someone else decides for you. But I know you won't listen, invent your own definitions or stick out your chest and act proud to remain ignorant. Aster all you aged out of school so you don't have to learn anything any more, you refuse to, and no one's gonna make you learn a dame thing. Life is like a brick, isn't it? Quote
TreeBeard Posted September 2, 2025 Report Posted September 2, 2025 On 8/31/2025 at 3:46 PM, blackbird said: yet here he is leading a party which is ideologically contrary to many values held dear by Catholics. So what you’re saying is that he should govern more Catholic and make Catholicism the official Canadian religion? Quote
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